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In timetager when Nino's brother goes the miraculous is for the hawkmoth of the future to hawkmoth (as in Gabriel Agreste) he was like the hawkmoth of the future isn't you therefore it's previously been implied someone would replace hawkmoth (and Nino's younger brother was older than the ladybug and chat noir of the past )so lila but since Nino's brother is quite young shown in the episode where Nino's parents divorce (the chained titan's) it indicates they will have to produce more seasons in order to show the growth of those around nino's brother's age like Alya's twin sisters and Manon (she may be slightly younger than them but still) so assuming Nino's brother is around 7-9 and he is around 16-18 in timetager that's roughly 8-9 years.So do you guys think Lila will still be spending her time almost 9 years later with a similar/different objective or will their be a new holder entirely?

Also side note but this reminded me of when chat noir asked nino's younger brother if him and ladybug would be together but then he bashed his hands together and he said it's more like this more like this so is this also giving more insight into the future 😭

Honestly I feel like the biggest victim is Adrien as everyone has been lying to him as he doesn't even know he's a sentimonster even though felix and kagami do (which is super unfair because he doesn't know why he previously didn't have autonomy of his own choices) due to Gabriel's control but now he's free of being controlled right now at least which might be risky because if he doesn't know he's a sentimonster( lila could potentially find out and take his ring in order to control him almost like a puppet because he does NOT know others can control him via the ring with his amok),he also doesn't know how his mother died as he believes she's dissapeared while her corpse was beneath him the entire time and being told his father died a hero which we can all tell he doesn't believe atp with the anger over the statue of gabriel and I feel like if he finds this on his own accord a chat blanc situation may reoccur because if everyone was truthful from the start he wouldn't be in such a deep hole of unknowing because he is being coddled by everyone he trusts 😭

Marinette shouldn't be recieving hate due to not telling Adrien about his father (more opinions)

I believe this because if she decides to tell Adrien she might get blamed in the process because only "Ladybug" saw Gabriel in his last moments and that would also mean she would have to reveal her identity as he would probably figure out marinette is ladybug similarly to chat blanc when adrien realised marinette was ladybug due to her leaving the present in her room on his bed.Also he already has his suspicions over his father not being a good person in the episode where the statue was created however that does NOT inherently mean he wouldn't be extremely shocked that his own father decided to go agaisnt the entirity of paris via monarch to bring his wife back directly going against her own orders and killing Nathalie in the process indirectly (but he still knew the dangers that the BROKEN peacock miraculous had so was it even indirectly????)which could be argued as selfish as he knew the dangers but still risked everything.

I also feel that Gabriel is not any less selfish for using the wish to bring back Nathalie because if he brought his wife back that would cause Adrien to become even more confused than he currently is as he doesn't know what has actually happened to both of parents (his mother dying due to using the peacock miraculous while damaged).I also find it unfair that she is on the recieving end of hate when Gabriel is fully to blame as he has now placed an even bigger burden on marinette because she intially had the burden of becoming a guardian but now she needs to keep mutiple secrets of gabriel being monarch, his mother's corpse previously being beneath him the entire time and the fact that his dad is even worse because he has placed all of this on his girlfriend potentially causing him to fully lose the little respect he has as a whole.We also know even when Adrien's mother passed instead of communicating to his son he willingly he chose to ignore his son and not even send him to school therefore leaving him in a state of isolation while barricading him away from the outside world and I view this more as control than a sense of protection as he couldn't "control" his wife's passing however he could intially control his child's actions both literally via the ring and physically.To add on from this, the fact that in Season 1 Adrien had no friends intially and basically little to no social life apart from Chloe means that even more than her relationship romantically with Adrien she may also not want him to feel alone platonically as he has gone through so much loss within his life and if she tells Adrien the truth he may lose everything as he may feel betrayed by the person she trusted the most as marinette does not know how he will truly react if he finds out.

I believe this because if she decides to tell Adrien she might get blamed in the process because only "Ladybug" saw Gabriel in his last moments and that would also mean she would have to reveal her identity as he would probably figure out marinette is ladybug similarly to chat blanc when adrien realised marinette was ladybug due to her leaving the present in her room on his bed.Also he already has his suspicions over his father not being a good person in the episode where the statue was created however that does NOT inherently mean he wouldn't be extremely shocked that his own father decided to go agaisnt the entirity of paris via monarch to bring his wife back directly going against her own orders and killing Nathalie in the process indirectly (but he still knew the dangers that the BROKEN peacock miraculous had so was it even indirectly????)which could be argued as selfish as he knew the dangers but still risked everything. I also feel that Gabriel is not any less selfish for using the wish to bring back Nathalie because if he brought his wife back that would cause Adrien to become even more confused than he currently is as he doesn't know what has actually happened to both of parents (his mother dying due to using the peacock miraculous while damaged).I also find it unfair that she is on the recieving end of hate when Gabriel is fully to blame as he has now placed an even bigger burden on marinette because she intially had the burden of becoming a guardian but now she needs to keep mutiple secrets of gabriel being monarch, his mother's corpse previously being beneath him the entire time and the fact that his dad is even worse because he has placed all of this on his girlfriend potentially causing him to fully lose the little respect he has as a whole.We also know even when Adrien's mother passed instead of communicating to his son he willingly he chose to ignore his son and not even send him to school therefore leaving him in a state of isolation while barricading him away from the outside world and I view this more as control than a sense of protection as he couldn't "control" his wife's passing however he could intially control his child's actions both literally via the ring and physically.To add on from this, the fact that in Season 1 Adrien had no friends intially and basically little to no social life apart from Chloe means that even more than her relationship romantically with Adrien she may also not want him to feel alone platonically as he has gone through so much loss within his life and if she tells Adrien the truth he may lose everything as he may feel betrayed by the person she trusted the most as marinette does not know how he will truly react if he finds out.

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