r/miraculousladybug

The Miraculers don't know about the Kingdom, this organization works in the shadows away from their side but they obviously need to learn about it at some point and I have an idea how.

You see the members of the Kingdom are all called: The [Name, usually reffering to something about the person on any given place, for example Tomoe is the Machine as she creates high tech machines].

We know that rich and powerfull people that we saw in the series are a part of it like Audrey, Noé or Tomoe, this means that a lot of the members are likely rich people that we already know of.

In Season 5 episode 22 "Collusion" Gabriel calls André the engenieer of Paris, what if by "The Engenieer" he was refering to not just him being the one who decides on the state of the city as the mayor but also to his position in the Kingdom.

It is very similar to the names that the Kingdom members have, what if it is one?

In the same episode André steps down from being the Mayor which would likely be the same moment he steps down from his place in the council.

So if André knows about the Kingdom then he can tell about it to Zoé who will tell it to Ladybug who will inform at the very least Alya about it and possibly the whole team (She tells it instead of Vesperia because that could accidentally reveal her secret identity).

Ladybug should've used the charms to surround the hawkmoth limiting him from akumatization. And instead of him making ultrakumas he should've used the alias rings as a way to akumatize people within the charms barrier like Trojan horse.

Because they're kinda useless but in that case it would've made it actually useful for ladybug could've used it as a way to cage him and Gabriel would've seen that and made the alliance rings (because he was running out of time and ladybug was getting the upper hand)

Ladybug would've been wondering how they're getting akumatize when no one sees the akuma and only when they break it is when they see it

For my part, it’s probably Mr. Kubdel and XY. We’ve been seeing them since Season 1, and I get the feeling we’ll never see either of them get akumatized.It's somewhat the same for Alya's mother.

Although I admit I would really love to see Mr. Kubdel get akumatized. That could be very interesting.

I'm not the usual Astruc hater and I thoroughly enjoyed the show with a few exceptions, but I am still very curious why people think Jeremy Zag did it better than the franchise creator?

I don't really care about spoilers because I already know how it ends, but I want to ask the fandom and particular those who don't like Astruc's handling of the show, to tell me why the film is better than his vision.

Also feel free to say whatever you want about the show and creator. I've probably seen and heard worse over the last two years and I just want to get a good debate/discussion going on this matter :)

I remember waiting for May 21st to finally see the second season, but then they moved it to the fall, I was very sad

Hi :D

I had an epiphany two weeks ago where I wondered what Miraculous Ladybug could look like if it was a Mecha series! I'll leave my rambling below-

So in this universe, the seal on the miraculouses (ring, earrings, etc) has been mysteriously growing weaker and weaker with each subsequent generation of miraculous holders. And paradoxically, each miraculous wielder has access to more firepower as the Kwami's divine nature becomes more apparent — but at the cost of the humans bodies.

This led to a catastrophic incident nearly a century prior, where the last partnership of Ladybug and Chat Noir ended with their bodies atomized after having used too much power to stop a cataclysmic threat. This devastated the Miracle guardian at the time, who also was in a severe predicament. Miraculous holders were needed across the globe, how could they utilize their kwami's powers without harming themselves?

The solution? Mechs! By maneuvering large mechas that could utilize and divert the kwami's energies, miraculous holders could use their abilities at no risk to their physical selves, so long as the mech is functional. But since the mechs need to always be in top condition, every pilot should learn how to do maintenance...

Enter Marinette Dupain-Cheng, an aspiring fashion designer anxiously entering the same school as her idol, Adrien Agreste, son of famous fashion mogul who plans to follow in his father's footsteps.

Neither of them are prepared for the responsibilities, and the weight-lifting, that maintaining a mech requires. What's worse, it seems their Kwamis are quite volatile and antagonistic towards them...

And that's about all I've got!

The only ones I felt off about was Argos, Bunnix, and Chrysalis. Argos and Bunnix because they didn’t change. Chrysalis because the hair had to grow on me. But they all hit the ball out of the park for me.

I mean, getting attached to the characters and relating to all their aspects is a core element of a story, I don't reject that. But honesty we've reached a point where within fandoms, the boundary between fiction and reality has been totally obliterated, the level of fan entitlement having reached enormous heights in recent years.

For those who don't know about the controversy, if I try to remain as objective as possible, a fan on Twitter (X) asked Thomas Astruc about the current age of the characters given the ongoing new arc. Astruc responded (quite harshly I admit) by stating that their age didn't matter, as long as they were already established as teenagers.

Aside from the tone, the debate started heating up with fans mocking and calling out this decision. And we all know that Thomas is very defensive about his work and choices. It went to the point where he explicitly stated that birthdates, astrology signs, blood sign, precise height... Every single little detail like such are useless and insignificant to the overall story.

Another tweet he made later caused more controversy where he state that a professional writer will know what to add if this allows the story to progress. But a bad writer will focus on every single little detail and the plot will become saturated with it. And honestly, the fandom went wild. (If there are any details I have omitted or points I have not fully or properly developed, please don't hesitate to let me know).

Between the numerous insults and harsh criticisms Thomas has received in the meantime, fans absolutely hated the fact that this specific writing point was dismissed, especially since other works, particularly those from the Japanese animation sphere, take great pleasure in specifying absolutely every detail surrounding their characters.

And that brings us back to the point I mentioned above: Fans have become too much attached to the characters that even not knowing their birthdate can be considered as terrible writing.

On one hand, I know it's to contribute to the attachment we have to the characters, but objectively speaking, Thomas is right on a point. Why dwell on it if it won't impact the story? It doesn't mean the characters don't have birthdays anymore as they are still celebrating them.

It just means we don't know the precise date because it's not what matters to the plot of the day (Similarly, it could probably cause some inconsistencies given the rather messy timeline of the series but once again, it's a kid's show).

The same logic can be applied with the other small details being stated as long as they contribute to the plot (Marinette and Kagami revealing their astrological sign in Ikari Gozen for example was relevant because it was a marker of their newly formed friendship back then).

But I agree that he really could and should have talked about that in a less condescending and rude manner.

But as you know, social medias are social medias. No need to say more. So here I am, making a post here before I can't stand the ongoing ambiance (and the insufferable, obnoxious people involved in that drama). But that's my take on the situation.

Forgive my digression, but to return to my initial point, I don't know guys but I sincerely feel that fandoms have become far too much entitled and possessive of the show they are watching, especially the characters. As a result, we're seeing some serious temper tantrums when informations, confirmations, narrative decisions or just lack of information doesn't work in their favor. We've seen it with TADC. We've seen it with Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss. We've seen it with the Toby Fox fandom. We've seen it with a huge number of fandoms lately. And Miraculous also belongs to that long list.

Seeing how heated this controversy has become from my point of view, and seeing how people have freaked out because Marinette and Adrien don't have an official birthday, It really reminded me of the point I attached above. While it's perfectly normal to become attached to a character, let's face it, we've humanized them so much in our minds that we forget that they are, first and foremost, works of fiction evolving inside a story, and that they are subject to rules and logics very far from our reach. And this alone, should not be a reason to bully creators and fans who do not agree with other's

ideas.

And I'm also taking this opportunity to throw spikes at fans who allow themselves to insult and harass Astruc and other creators like they were your buddies or they killed your grandma. Not excusing some of their behavior (even though I think they shall have the right to act like jerks sometimes when they have to deal with toxic fandoms — like Hideki Kamiya for example) but resorting to online bullying, tons of insults (some of them being genuinely concerning) and acting like total fools because they were rude or didn't do/give/say what the fans wanted...

Let me tell you guys, you're not even a iota better than them, if not worse in some cases.

If Kagami Tsurugi had a sister or a middle name, I would have called her Harumi Tsurugi. I feel this name perfectly represents the opposite of her core personality, and I love imagining what such a version would be like.

Where Kagami commands respect through her discipline, calmness, and reserve, Harumi would naturally inspire trust through her gentleness, openness, and warmth. They would embody two different ways of being strong: one through self-mastery, the other through human warmth.

It's precisely this contrast that makes their dynamic so interesting. Harumi wouldn't just be the opposite of Kagami, but also a mirror that highlights each of their qualities, while showing that strength can be expressed in many ways. 🌸💙

I love creating art that might make you cry. [OC]