Hey folks, we've refined our rules and have added a new one (#8). The TLDR on the new rule: no comments accusing CC Suarez of being in a lavender marriage or not being "really" bisexual. Comments of this nature do not meaningfully contribute to criticism of her actions and behaviors, and they facilitate biphobic stereotypes that reduce a whole sexual orientation down to untrustworthiness, confusion, or a phase. We've always had "no bigotry" in our rules, but we've made it its own rule which extends to comments which speculate unhelpfully on sexual orientation.

As a general reminder, while this is a "snark" subreddit, our focus is on documenting and criticizing (and yes, often laughing at) the unethical and outlandish antics of CC Suarez. To remain a trustworthy archive and place for valid criticism, the moderators will remove any comment or post at our discretion which we feel may negatively impact the integrity of the subreddit.

Please familiarize yourself with the descriptions and report potential violations to the mods. If any of this is unclear, or you have feedback, feel free to comment or DM.

1. Be Civil

>Agree to disagree and keep the conversation open. We all know how low CC can get - let’s not take it there. Please embrace the fine art of agreeing to disagree. Debate the topic, not each other - and stay on point.

2. Stay on Topic

>Must be related to Chelsea "CC" Suarez and those within her orbit (and then content and conversation must still be directly about to CC Suarez). This is subject to moderator discretion.

3. No Body Shaming or Overly Harsh Comments on Cosmetic Procedure Outcomes

>While CC enjoys using misogynistic language and harsh body shaming, there’s no reason we need to stoop to her level and do it back. Some critique of changeable appearance elements (hair, makeup, style, filler) is allowed, but keep it within reason and avoid misogynistic tropes.

4. No Doxing / Harassment. Observe But Don't Engage.

>No harassing CC Suarez. Do not tag her in posts or comments, do not share content where you are harassing her on her social media profiles or channels, do not mess with her reviews or advertisers. We observe and critique.

>ZERO TOLERANCE FOR DOXXING. No sharing identifying information or post links to personal information. Block out names and censor faces where necessary. Contact a moderator if you are unsure if it's necessary

5. Do Not Call For Action to Brigade Other Communities or Contact Anyone in Chelsea's Real Life

>This is a digital archive to document CC Suarez's questionable online antics; we do not, as Chelsea herself used to say, "touch the poop." Do not encourage anyone to brigade or manipulate reviews/upvotes/comments/likes on another Reddit community or any other platform.

6. No Money Stuff

>This subreddit has a "no exchange of money" policy, including gofundmes. Please do not promote fundraisers, solicit donations, directly offer financial assistance or buy/sell/trade anything on this subreddit.

7. Trigger/Content Warnings for Sensitive Topics

>Please add trigger/content warnings for sensitive topics such as SA. Ideally you'd use spoiler warnings/text for this kind of material, but any CW/TW will suffice.

🆕 8. No biphobia, homophobia, ableism, racism, etc.

>Criticize and speculate on her behavior, not her sexual orientation. We allow conversation about her inappropriate and invasive sexual remarks and behavior towards others, but casting doubt on her self-identified sexual orientation, or any form of biphobia, does not meaningfully contribute to criticism of her actions.

>Do not use ableist language towards her or anyone else. Don't be a bigot. This is subject to moderator discretion.

Hi folks, we just wanted to post a PSA that our subreddit has been absolutely inundated with false reports over the last 24-48 hours (with an uptick within the last few hours). Comments and posts which are critical of Chelsea (and Rachael Reese, both of whom are public figures and significant contributors to the eLIESabeth podcast) are being reported for completely baseless and obviously BS reasons. We believe this is an active effort by some bad actors to maliciously interfere with the subreddit and to get it shut down, similarly to when mass copyright strikes were made against our fair use posts this past spring.

As most of our members know, the mod team takes the time flag every single false report back to Reddit as an abuse of the reporting function, but we have also taken steps to ban a very small number of potential bad actors whom we have material reasons to believe may be submitting a subset of these false reports. If you believe you were banned unfairly, please message the mods and we will review.

Additionally, we have turned on the strictest level of crowd control, so if your comment is caught in a filter and you believe it should have gotten through, please let the moderation team know and we will review and address it ASAP as well.

Please take extra caution in posting any personally identifying information about yourselves given the uptick in negative attention, and please make sure to read and adhere to our rules. If you see any comments or posts which do break our rules or genuinely rise to the level of harassment, please report these. The mod team does diligently review and remove comments which violate our rules and Reddit's ToS, and we will continue to do so.

This is the only space on the internet in which Chelsea Suarez and her orbiters cannot censor and control the conversation. You all have a right to express your opinions, even if they hurt the feelings of any content creator, influencer or public figure. Given we have over 3,000 members and visitors to this subreddit weekly (averaging over 200k views every 30 days!) there clearly is a real appetite for critical discussion of these public figures. Thanks for your participation!

XOXO,

Your mod team

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TLDR: Chelsea stole over an hour's worth of content from a small creator, deleted comments FROM THE CREATOR and others encouraging people to support the creator directly, and then made every excuse under the sun for why what she did (content theft via unfair use) "wasn't a problem."

Background

• Chelsea has been increasingly criticized for her use of long clips from other creators with shrinking amounts of commentary. This started coming to a head with her Caleb Hammer video (posted June 11). She left responses stating that the only reason there were such long clips with so little commentary is she wanted to make sure everything was included (...sure):

One of several comments calling Chelsea out for clipfarming & her excuse (I mean... response)

Stealing from AlyssaMarieTV

• On June 15, Chelsea posted a video entitled "Welcome to Pearadise: WHEN KINKS KILL (FEEDER CULT) #gorlworld". It met immediate and thorough backlash, gaining almost 100 comments highly critical of the fact that the majority of the video was back -to-back, uninterrupted clips from AlyssaMarieTV's tiktok coverage.
• Here are some of the comments from Chelsea's own fans calling her out. There legitimately were almost 100 by the time the video was taken down (spoiler alert: youtube removed it due to AlyssaMarieTV's valid copyright claim)
• This video was monetized and sponsored, meaning Chelsea was attempting to profit off of AlyssaMarieTV's hard work. She did credit Alyssa by adding her username in small pink text in the lower left of each clip, but crediting does not mean the other pillars of fair use content can be ignored. Chelsea made no attempt to transform Alyssa's content and indeed did not even comment on most of it.
• Here is the breakdown from u/Prestigious-Sky-2803 in their excellent post about this:

Of the 1 hour 31 minutes of clips, 1 hour and 18 minutes of it was from one creator (alyssamarietv)

Deleting and hiding comments, even from AlyssaMarieTV

• When the comments began rolling in on her video, Chelsea began deleting comments and hiding comments from certain users. This subreddit has proof of comments being fully deleted, because the people who left the comments confirmed to us that they could no longer see some of their comments (entirely deleted), but other comments were visible still... only to them (hidden). The mod team verified these are all true.
• Examples of Chelsea deleting comments that encouraged viewers to watch AlyssaMarieTV: a channel member left a comment encouraging people to go watch the original creator (AlyssaMarieTV) on tiktok. Chelsea fully deleted these two comments, and then began hiding all of this channel member's comments. Again, mods confirmed that these were fully deleted and not just hidden like the channel member's other comments.

First deleted comment from Channel Member Doe

Second deleted comment from Channel Member Doe

• Chelsea then deleted a comment from AlyssaMarieTV herself! As you can see here, AlyssaMarieTV herself (mod verified identity) actually showed up in our subreddit to say hello and thank us for our support. She then shared that she had left a kind, friendly comment on Chelsea's video... which was deleted moments later. We know it was deleted and not just hidden by a filter because AlyssaMarieTV could no longer see her own comment, and other users reported seeing it before it disappeared. This was the best screenshot she was able to get before it was removed by Chelsea:

AlyssaMarieTV's comment on Chelsea's video. Chelsea deleted this comment.

The aftermath, aka "I did nothing wrong" and "it's actually not really my fault"

On June 17, Chelsea went live and proceeded to deny what she did was wrong and to make excuse after excuse.

• She claims she "addressed" the overuse of other people's clips in the comment section of both the Caleb and "Welcome to Pearadise" videos. This is a lie, she only replied to comments in the Caleb video and did not engage with commenters on the "Welcome to Pearadise" video at all (except to delete comments)
• She denied that a full hour of AlyssaMarieTV's content was used. Ironically, in her denial here she is correct, because OVER an hour of content was used. Proof was provided in this post.
• She claimed it "wasn't a problem, just a preference" people have. "It's a preference thing." This was meant to mean that she didn't do anything wrong by monetizing over an hour's worth of another creator's comments, people just (in her mind) preferred to hear her give more commentary than she did.
• She blamed her editing team, AKA Table Rock Management LLC, and said that it was "unacceptable" that they edited her video in such a way, stating the unfair use of content was just her editing team making "annoying mistakes"
• She blamed needing to rush the video out due to a sponsor deadline, as if sloppily content pushed out quickly for profit is not her usual modus operandi. This time (IMO) it was just extremely obvious.
• She then said she is taking accountability, but she's been "depressed and all that" and didn't even watch the video back before it went live
• Lastly, she said she included so many full clips so that nothing was taken out of context. A convenient excuse to pad runtime for adsense dollars.

On the evening of June 18th, Youtube took the video down due to a copyright strike by AlyssaMarieTV!

• Over the last few days, AlyssaMarieTV replied to our users in this subreddit informing us that Chelsea had not once reached out to her and that she was in talks with Youtube about a copyright strike against Chelsea's video. This was actioned by Youtube.
• When you check the video link (originally here), you see a message informing you of this. Here's our post about it.

Now Chelsea has made even more excuses!

• In a post made to her "posts" section of her youtube channel today, (our post about it is here), Chelsea once again put the blame on her editing team, saying it's because they are new editors to her channel.
• She dishonestly tried to frame the fact that she played over an hour of AlyssaMarieTV's content back to back as a "10+ minute chunk" without commentary. This is a massive downplaying of how much content was used unfairly.
• She says again that she doesn't even watch her videos back before they go live.
• She then says she is not blaming her editors, which she literally quite obviously is.

Chelsea's latest round of excuses

Naturally, 95% her fans are now thanking her for her honesty and transparency and calling it a "one time mistake." How long will Chelsea be able to pull the wool over her fans eyes?

One of our members made a post that referenced Bellesa, an adult toy company. Some of the comments were critical of the company, and within an hour of the post/comments going live, all critical comments and the main post suddenly were getting dozens and dozens of downvotes, and random brand new accounts were appearing out of the woodwork to defend the company.

Our community is pretty small (we were under 2k members until this point) and our members pretty quickly caught on that the post was being botted and alerted the mods. We then turned on crowd control and reported the new user comments (some of which were identical to one another) as spam, and Reddit suspended a couple of the accounts. The downvoting and new comments calmed down last night and the storm seems to have passed, plus our members appeared to have restored the balance by upvoting where there were dozens of downvotes.

Here's my concern: over 430 new members joined the sub in the last 24 hours. usually we just get a handful of new members max per day. I am pretty certain they are bot/fake users connected to yesterday's botting. I am worried Reddit admins may think we courted/wanted/created/paid for these bots and that our subreddit might get dinged for it.

Any thoughts/advice?