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In the uk there's a lot of articles about people drowning in canals after falling in them. In the uk theyre only 3-4 foot deep meaning if you stand it'll be well below your head. Lots of people in the comments ask the question of what prevented these people from simply standing up after falling in.

multiple people have said the silt at the bottom is very slippery and I've seen one article where the slippery silt at the bottom was mentioned in the article as the reason a person (who couldnt swim) drowned, because she couldnt regain her footing after falling in even though it was chest deep. The woman was on her phone and was distracted and fell in. The article was in Chinese, so I don't know if it got properly translated to English.

i find it hard to believe mud can be more slippery than ice, which people stand on. And I've seen photos of people standing in canals with no issue. I've also seen enough true crime documentaries to realise it sounds less like these people fell and makes more sense they were either already dead and then thrown in or held under by someone, and that's a possibility that gets ignored in these cases.

Seen some articles about people drowning in canals, in the uk theyre only 3-4 foot deep meaning if you stand it'll be well below your head. multiple people have said the silt at the bottom is very slippery and I've seen one article where the slippery silt at the bottom was mentioned in the article as the reason a person (who couldnt swim) drowned, because she couldnt regain her footing after falling in evem though it was chest deep.

is this actually true? i find it hard to believe mud can be more slippery than ice, which people stand on. And I've seen photos of people standing in canals with no issue.

Seen some articles about people drowning in canals, in the uk theyre only 3-4 foot deep and have no current, meaning if you stand it'll be well below your head. multiple people have said the silt at the bottom is very slippery and I've seen one article where the slippery silt at the bottom was mentioned in the article as the reason a person (who couldnt swim) drowned, because she couldnt regain her footing after falling in evem though it was chest deep.

is this actually true? i find it hard to believe mud can be more slippery than ice, which people stand on.

Seen some articles about people drowning in canals, in the uk theyre only 3-4 foot deep meaning if you stand it'll be well below your head. multiple people have said the silt at the bottom is very slippery and I've seen one article where the slippery silt at the bottom was mentioned in the article as the reason a person (who couldnt swim) drowned, because she couldnt regain her footing after falling in evem though it was chest deep.

is this actually true? i find it hard to believe mud can be more slippery than ice, which people stand on.

Lots of stories lately of people drowning in canals but they seem to avoid the obvious question which is why didn't they just stand up? And the channel depth includes the silt layer which covers the actual bottom, which can make canals a few inches shallower in places.

Is that actually possible?

Assuming you can't get out without help because the edge is too steep or slippery. Even if you can swim you'd tire after a while.

I found an article from 2015 in Houyang Village near Wenzhou, Zhejiang Province, China. A woman on her phone was seen on cctv falling into a canal, where she drowned.

According to police the canal was only chest deep but the slippery bottom made it impossible for her to stand up (she couldn't swim, so she couldn't swim to the steps a few feet away.)

Most of the articles in this were in Chinese, so no idea if it was properly autotranslated or not.

The channel depth of most canals is 3-4 feet, that depth includes the silt which can make canals slightly shallower in places.

Assuming you can't get out without help because the edge is too steep or slippery. Even if you can swim you'd tire after a while.

I found an article from 2015 in Houyang Village near Wenzhou, Zhejiang Province, China. A woman on her phone was seen on cctv falling into a canal, where she drowned.

According to police the canal was only chest deep but the slippery bottom made it impossible for her to stand up (she couldn't swim, so she couldn't swim to the steps a few feet away.)

Most of the articles in this were in Chinese, so no idea if it was properly autotranslated or not.

Assuming you can't get out without help because the edge is too steep or slippery. Even if you can swim you'd tire after a while.

I found an article from 2015 in Houyang Village near Wenzhou, Zhejiang Province, China. A woman on her phone was seen on cctv falling into a canal, where she drowned.

According to police the canal was only chest deep but the slippery bottom made it impossible for her to stand up (she couldn't swim, so she couldn't swim to the steps a few feet away.)

Most of the articles in this were in Chinese, so no idea if it was properly autotranslated or not.

Don't know if my mate is bsing me. He said a lot of people drown in these shallow canals because the bottom is so slippery your feet would just keep sliding in front of you falling in again and again till you exhaust yourself and drown.

edit: assuming you can't get out without help because the edge is too steep or slippery. Even if you can swim you'd tire after a while.

edit 2: I found an article from 2015 in Houyang Village near Wenzhou, Zhejiang Province, China. A woman on her phone was seen on cctv falling into a canal, where she drowned.

According to police the canal was only chest deep but the slippery bottom made it impossible for her to stand up (she couldn't swim, so she couldn't swim to the steps a few feet away.)

Most articles on it were in Chinese, so I don't know if it was autotranslated properly.

The original generation of "chavs" are in their 30's now. Whenever you see a man who fits that look/subculture who is in his 30's, what do you think? What if there was more than one?

Most of my mates were lads who were (and still are!) Townies. For those who don't know, it's a subculture which first emerged in the 1990s or early 2000's. Like how Punks or Mods had their own style, so did the Townies.

Townies in the 2000's often wore tartan base ball caps, baggy, light coloured trackies, white trainers (which were kept pristine!) and gold jewellery. Diamond ear studs were as much of a staple of the subculture as golden chains or rings were.

Townies were/are rowdy, but I can say from experience they're very friendly down to Earth people who will do anything to protect you. Very loyal and kind hearted lads usually.

They also had an assortment of music genres which were either made or listened to, garage, bassline, r&b, jungle, and drum n bass.

They even had their own language, with words like safe, peng, hench, and other words for things.

It seems intergenerational now. It still seems like the subculture is popular, especially in the North East, with Bad Boy Chiller Crew being a bassline band composed purely of North Eastern Townies.

Anyone else remember them? The ones I know are well into their thirties now and still dress similar to how they used to and one still loves blasting bassline in his car!