u/papadooku

Reacting to the recent post by u/Ill-bet-9066 I realised I might have an uncommon intro story but surely there are a few of us right?

I think age must be a factor - I grew up in the 2000s so I wasn't old enough to have discovered them myself organically and not young enough for my parents to have been into them.

In 2009, I was a young bassist and my parents got me a subscription to a bass magazine. One day the front cover was John Paul Jones, in an insanely cool photo with an insanely cool bass. Went straight to the article, which was an interview with JPJ with a few pictures of the band, and I thought "wow these three guys look really cool. The singer looks cool and tall". I knew of Nirvana and Led Zeppelin but never listened to them, and I soon downloaded the TCV album for my iPod. It became the soundtrack of the summer and remains one of my favorite albums of all time.

Despitze this I didn't get into Queens from there - they were hanging there in the "recommendations to check out some time" list for years but never got round to them. Years later I'm out of high school and the same bass magazine (which I still pick up for the train ride back home from university) had an article about Like Clockwork. Finally decided to open YouTube and watch a gig at random - and I wasn't blown away... Part of me was like "meh it's not as similar to Vultures as I wanted", ridiculous I know but it was a first listen and it always takes a few to click. What kept me going was the song titles, they were long and cool and a bit silly just like the name of the band and that scratched the exact itch I didn't know I had. So I borrowed SftD from the local library, and Millionaire got me really excited because I thought Josh was singing!! Hey this guy's got range!

And even though that wasn't him, just the variety in the beggining of that album got me hooked, and Song for the Dead was the first real deep click which I just played on repeat for days. It really struck me that these guys are having fun, with all the fake-outs and the weird scales that Vultures had created a taste for. After years of being a bassist that song got me into guitar. Now Queens are my favourite band second only to the Beatles (but that doesn't really count does it), and to this day Josh's guitar work and weirdness is still the main appeal for me. Era Vulgaris>TCV>Clockwork, to my mind, is peak creative Josh.

So how about you, are there any similar tales? And if you came to TCV later, what's your relationship with that album?

Hi all,

I'm looking to scratch a very specific kind of itch that I hope you'll be able to help me with.

Just been listening again to Schlagenheim and I just love it so much, there's something about the raw energy and noise-adjacent style - I love the other two BM albums too but their energy is more theatrical and composed. I'm realising what I'm craving in the 1st album is probably related to Matt's contributions, RIP.

Basically I'm looking for:

- Noisy or "angular" guitar

- High energy, doesn't have to be specifically fast or slow but the kind of thing that makes you want to move _convulsively_

- Mad drumming is appreciated

- An aspect of "weird": this is abstract but when there is dissonance in guitars/vocals or wonkiness in rhythm.

- Non-standard song structures: pulls the rug under you with new sections, avoids predictability

Here is all the music I have to scratch this itch so far:

- Geordie Greep: Blues (busy, overwhelming) and Motorbike (feels like they went "screw it let's go there")

- Deerhoof: Big House Waltz (biggest headbang ever)

- Chat Pile: Dallas Beltway (guitar riff sounds broken, like a rusty spring trying to speak)

- The Jesus Lizard: Boilermaker, Mouth Breather (honestly Boilermaker is a perfect encapsulation of the search here, it's full of ideas that stay long enough to get into them but then surprises you with another insane riff. ADHD music?)

- Fantômas

- Mclusky and other Albini-core bands

- Gilla Band, Blacklisters on the more agressive noisy side

- QotSA's Songs for the Deaf (guitar tone sounds like your brain is crumbling, full of little fake-outs and surprises, doesn't take itself too seriously)

- QotSA's Era Vulgaris and Them Crooked Vultures (peak of Josh Homme's quest for wonky, sleazy, almost silly)

- Swans when they hit hard

I know I have to get into Dillinger Escape Plan and Melvins, I've had some very promising peeks so far.

Extemely grateful for any recs, please don't hesitate to send even if it doesn't perfectly fit the bill! Cheers!