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I cannot, I repeat: CANNOT let this line play without it bringing absolute tears to my eyes. It’s both so precise and so visual - the innocence of a period in time when you didn’t understand or know all the pain and hardship you might be faced with later on.

I know so many people love Orbiter because it’s so many things to so many people, but I think it’s the cinematic nature of his writing here, the textured images he refers to and the vivid memories all at once that make this, in short, immaculate.

I am just floored by this song, and by so many of them on the album. But this specific section just makes me well up and crank the volume to max on the highway and sing harmony like I’m in the band.

My son is 5 and finishing up daycare at the end of August. He’s got a great educator who wants to work on confidence ahead of school and has planned out filming a Disney-story style video where each of the 10 kids in his class has lines, dresses in costume and makes a souvenir “movie”. Earlier in the year, this same educator organized little music shows where kids learned songs and sang them in front of families. All great stuff. My son, however, is really struggling with this.

First music concert, he refused to participate, and ended up on my lap the whole time. Cried huge tears, despite my gentle encouragement. When families were not present, he participated great. So this seems to be a crowd of adults problem.

Second concert, he did participate but it was painful. He cried all throughout, yet did go through the motions and we praised him a ton for doing hard things.

Fast forward to the video, it requires parental involvement to film these ”videos” in various locations. I go to one of the first ones and he is fine until the moment for his lines, he starts hiding behind me, is crying. It’s so tough. Despite all my and his educator’s coaxing, he just can’t do it, so we move on.

This morning, he was supposed to go with another mom and daycare classmate to another location to film again. He woke up angry, sad, big feelings that felt pretty tied to what was coming. It was a 2HR episode that would get to a fever pitch and then he’d calm down. Then his friend showed up and he cried huge tears and just couldn’t get into the car.

For context: he is a great kid, extroverted when at home, my second kid and thriving in all other ways. We’re the only family that speaks English at home, he is immersed with 9 other kids who only speak French and he masters this well. He’s fully bilingual at age 5. I can’t say I was that bilingual at his age, only later on at school. We don’t have a lot of extended family - our 2 moms passed away before kids so not really opportunities to practice being away from mom and dad and older sister.

This morning, I decided to keep him back while his friends went to film today’s video because he was just inconsolable. I can thankfully do this because I work from home - but I’m worried I’m not setting him up for success. I guess I’m wondering what tips some of you may have on finding the right balance between pushing through hard times to gain confidence vs backing off because some of this takes time. This was the first time I’ve kept him home due to emotional overwhelm - and I want him to feel heard and supported but I almost feel like the educator thinks I’m not pushing enough.

I LOVE this version. Will probably belt this out in the car forevermore. Has anyone else ever spotted variations of songs played on the lambin vs live, old or new?

This song absolutely destroyed me. Eldest daughter, raised very Catholic, Irish, mom got diagnosed with early onset dementia when I was 26 and my dad and sisters just couldn’t deal. I had to move home. I took care of her for 12 years.

The specific line of “I hate to drag you back here / but I think he’s really lost it / he’s been sitting on the porch / oh ranting like a prophet” bring me back to all the phone calls I got from my sister telling me to come home, my mom was staring at the wall and speaking in absolute gibberish. It’s so specific, it’s haunting.

I wonder if anyone else thinks this is a song about the burden of caregiving? I almost listen to it from the POV of his sister, as that’s where I sit. The line my husband read into was ”didn’t know you drove American cars”, as to mean that they’re notoriously unreliable. But I almost took it as a line meaning - you seem so above them.

Curious what others have read into this, based on listening and life experiences. I think this is my absolute fave Noah Kahan song, apart from You’re gonna go far. I always hear this from my mom’s perspective and it brings me so much comfort.