Amphoreus predicts Akivili's fate and the future of the cosmos

As we know by now Amphoreus is the greatest masterpiece in the cosmos (blessed be zandar and his name) and a semi accurate simulation of it and had already made many accurate predictions
Of course we can use that fact to make several predictions one of which surpasses even lygus' framework for the project.

Now to lay the groundwork the basic premise for this theory is the most prevalent symbolism in amphoreus of 12+1 it is seen a good couple times and directly represents the main themes of the story (12+1 chrysos heirs 12+1 notes in cyrene's solfeggio etc) with 12 representing perfection and +1 being an intrusion that turns it to the imperfect 13.

So why is this relevant to the current state of the cosmos? Well with the recent revelation that Oroboros has been sealed by Aha for eons it coincidentally means that there are 12 currently existing aeons the perfect and static state of the cosmos .

But wait 12 gods? It happens that Amphoreus had that aswell the 12 titans which is perhaps the most significant instane of the aforementioned symbolism as it is revealed the true number of titans is 12+1 with the 13th having been killed in the past only to return and bring imperfection and humanity to the perfect world.

And which path did the 13th titan represent? Of course the trailblaze.

Knowing this the parallels keep on going but let's refresh you on the timeline of the 13th titan for this.

Demiurge exists as the "Heart" of the world > They are killed to bring the world to perfection > Their surviving fragment is found by someone and nurtured closer to health on the promise that they will bring salvation to the world> The 13th god is revived but missing their memories are true power > They wander the world as a mortal learning what it means to be human ---you are here--- > They ascend once again bringing +1 to the 12 gods ushering in a new path to the world > They realize their own existence is the ultimate cause of finality and choose to erase their own existence saving the cosmos.

Viewed from the lense of Akivili taking the place of the Demiurge I am sure you have noticed the glaring parallels to both THEIR history and the current plot of the story so to sum it up what we gather from this is:

The Trailblazer is a weakened form of Akivili found and nurtured (presumably) by the stellaron hunters (to save the cosmos from finality as elyisae was promised) now without their memories they must wander the world as a mortal until eventually ascending back (adding the 13th aeon to the current 12) bringing imperfection (variance) back into the cosmos currently destined for finality until eventually realizing that THEY THEMSELF will bring the end if THEY remain an inhuman divinity making THEM give up aeonhood.

It's certain that the most prevalent symbolism and themes alligning this perfectly (heh) is no coincidence.

u/senotara — 15 days ago

The Trailblazer is still the true key to Asat's plan

Trailblazer is Asat's actual way to unseal Oroboros

With 4.4 freshly coming out and the various creative risks one that stands out is the rather anti climactic finale and I believe many missed the clear proof that Asat foresaw this outcome and executed his plan fully intending it

https://preview.redd.it/pwp1nrxrzndh1.png?width=1342&format=png&auto=webp&s=e805c9849073fece4259269731e39dc407183504

Although he has hidden that fact up until now Asat's true goal from the start has been to make the trailblazer do something that will lead to the doom of planarcadia and well now we know in which way Asat intends to destroy this world

The reason he has not struck early the motive behind leaving Trailblazer alone point of cornering the Trailblazer in the way he did is that he always intended for them to be forced to use the stellaron

https://preview.redd.it/gkit6h8j0odh1.png?width=1918&format=png&auto=webp&s=c5978f8336416690bbd79da09b2b5856ae35c346

Hell if you ask him Asat reveals he already knows the way in which he can be defeated and practically dares TB to go ahead with it from the moment he set up this stage the outcome was always going to end in his victory one way or the other

Whatever has been stopping Asat from just unleashing the voracity and being done with it was solved right after tb saved Himeko using the stellaron the timing was far too perfect

https://preview.redd.it/jgs8iw4v1odh1.png?width=462&format=png&auto=webp&s=16850d03016ef9bdb48e86fcd37290c4bf27317d

And most interestingly Asat notes that defeating him using the stellaron would have a massive cost he ONLY tells you this upon a critical success further showing that not only did he predict this but that he wanted tb to go through with it without a second thought

https://preview.redd.it/ubtcxwn51odh1.png?width=1301&format=png&auto=webp&s=e2251791433465ae1fdc1b8aa2fe39621a934ebd

We know for a fact that Oroboros was not supposed to be unsealed right now finality tb tells us that it would take as long as 8 days for Asat to be able to do it and yet here we are right after the battle with Asat cheering that his mission was a success

At this point in the story the Trailblazer has already become the reason for planarcadia's destruction with their wish to save Himeko they have unsealed the voracity and completed Asat's joke

"we did it, we won"
"oh you really is that what you think protagonist?"
"the tremors of the stellaron will shift the cosmos' fate in a different trajectory."

The moment Trailblazer could not escape without using that thing was the moment they failed.

u/senotara — 1 month ago

Akivili is another Cyrene

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Akivili's fall is one of the most discussed events in the cosmos with even the story acknowledging it as such so I want to give my own take on the answer

TLDR: Akivili realized "gods" are inherently opposed to humanity and saw THEIR trailblaze usher in the finality so THEY committed divine suicide just as Cyrene at the end of the amphorean war

First let's establish the fundamentals for this: the amphoreus experiment is the greatest masterpiece of any genius and the most accurate simulation of the cosmos ever created in every way

The relevant conclusion of the amphorean experiment is that "gods" are just as shackled to the system that is reality as mortals as was seen by Lygus and as amphoreus cleary states divinity is fundamentally opposed to humanity there is no "good" god and humanity must be independant from the gods

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Because of this we have to think about what that means for the "good" gods of hsr namely for this Aha and Akivili THEY have been presented to us as the most "human" aeons so far with both partaking in common pleasures and activities despite being aeons but since as we have learned divinity is inherently opposed to humanity we have to ask how can those "good" aeons remain on our side of history

We can see the answer rather clearly with Aha THEY give away THEIR authority at opportune times to give THEMSELF a single minute of relief and now THEY wish to fully abandon the authority of elation this is because as Cyrene showed us in 3.7 divinity and humanity are contradictory the only escape left for Aha is to become a mortal once again

The connections between the trailblaze and the finality are obvious so far the drive to uncover everything that is unknowable will eventually lead one to the absolute final end we have seen that "inevitable" destination already with the alternate trailblazer in 3.7 this in combination with Nous' dialogue and the conclusion of 3.7 also answers our question about the 4th finality that being that it is truly unpredictable Nous implies that THEY believe the trailblaze can bring the 4th finality but do not know while the 3.7 story says that the remembrancce could be the one only to be denied by Cyrene the conclusion to this is that the 4th finality is simply every other path not included in the prophecy including the trailblaze

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This leads us right into Akivli THEY are no doubt the most "human" aeon aswell as the most "good" aeon and yet one cannot be "human" or "good" as a god
so of course to be the good god Akivili must be convinced to give up being an Aeon and go back to being a mortal just as Cyrene did at the end of amphoreus it is likely THEY saw how the existence of the aeon of trailblze would inevitably lead to THEIR own path of endless discovery ironically becoming the end of all things and so THEY decided to through unknown means to cause THEIR own fall to save the cosmos and allow true "trailblaze" as in new unshackled possibilites to emerge again.

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u/senotara — 1 month ago

No Himeko and Motoko did not bodyswap. The story just made people uncomfortable.

Since the 4.3 story many voices in the community have expressed their discomfort with the idea that the Himeko we traveled with is a memetic entity (rather odd after we had 2 entire planets on why those are valid) and made theories in response to nullify the plot twist it was very common to claim asat just lied but the most popular theory now is that Motoko and Himeko swapped bodies during the transformation sequence in the new animation.

The very last scene of the animation has Motoko call out Himeko's name now that they finally restored the astral express only for her dead body not to respond as we know Himeko does not refer to Motoko by her own name confirming that they did not swap beforehand

Motoko trying to show Himeko the repaired express also becomes nonsense if that is actually Himeko in her body Motoko did not have the same obsession to see it repaired before dying she just wanted to see Himeko achieve her dream

None of these sections make any sense if we imagine it is Himeko in Motoko's body or that Himeko did not actually die fighting the Herald of death you need to ignore the entire last 3rd of the animation to come to that conclusion and I can only imagine it is the result of wanting to avoid the previously mentioned feelings of disturbance

Hell we don't even strictly need the animation to contradict this we know from 4.3 that the gravestone had Himeko's name on it now that we know that Motoko had her own distinct name before Himeko's death it would make no sense for Himeko to write her own name on the grave stone instead of Motoko's

I honestly believe that this being the most popular recent theory in hsr is the simple result of people not digesting penacony / amphoreus aswell as an inability to cope with media making them unfortable as has been seen by a lot of the community response to 4.3

I would even make the argument that this fakeout would be plain bad writing that people are cheering on to happen but this response has become long enough already.

u/senotara — 1 month ago

The conclusion is irrefutable. The right side of the tier list - Prydwen - falls silent. In thirteen heartbeats, THEY will begin recalculating the meta.... with "Saber" as the only conclusion.

u/senotara — 3 months ago

More than happy to welcome our new subdps

I know this has been controversial but saber mains should take it in stride

u/senotara — 3 months ago