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Raging Bull (1980): From Blindness to Sight, What the Bible Quote Really Means. A Religious Analysis

Raging Bull (1980) ends on a wonderful note, with this text quoted from The Bible:

>"Speak the truth before God, we know this fellow is a sinner"
and the man replied: "Whether or not he is a sinner, I don't know, but once I was blind, Now I can see"
- John 9:24-26

In the Part I of this post, let's try to explore what this quote could mean. In the Part II, we will look at Raging Bull from a more religious lens and analyze what makes Jake LaMotta a "sinner" in the religious sense.

PART I

In the Biblical context, there was a blind man who was miraculously cured of his blindness by Jesus' touch. There were plenty sceptics of Jesus' power around that time and they approached the cured man, asking him to tell the truth and testify against Jesus by labelling him as a sinner in front of God. The cured man however, simply replies that he doesn't know if Jesus is a sinner or not but atleast he opened up his eyes.

Coming to how this quote might connect to this film, whether the things Jake LaMotta did are morally correct is a different conversation but the raw portrayal of his downfall in this film we all spent a couple hours watching atleast opens up some eyes in us. That quote nicely explains the purpose of the film without being very on the nose. The film, much like that blind man, isn't more interested in absolving or condemning Jake, it's more so interested in showing the truth of Jake's existence without flinching in an unfiltered manner. It helps us "see" how arrogance and rage corrupts a person.

I read online a couple theories from other people on how Jake's posture in his last match v/s Sugar Ray Robinson evokes the crucified posture of Jesus with the arms wide and blood pouring down the body from his wounds, which adds to this interpretation. While I don't personally rock with a person like Jake being potentially portrayed as a Christ-like figure, I can pass it off because it is subtle and the final Biblical quote also connects to this, because the person addressed in the quote is Jesus.

Or maybe this crucifixion pose is to show that Jake LaMotta has gone so far down his delusional vanity that he feels like Jesus getting crucified when he finally loses and if the whole boxing world conspired against him. He even leaves by frantically repeating "I never went down Ray" . Ironically enough, there is a big cross showing Christ's crucifixion placed above Jake & Vickie's bed centrally in their house, which adds weight to this theory. During the scenes before his matches, religious artifacts like crosses and images of the Virgin Mary are framed around Jake.

Another interpretation of the quote could be the fact that Jake finally "sees". The quote is flashed on the screen right after the final scene, where Jake looks at himself in the mirror and recites "Let's face it, It was you Charlie" as a rehearsal for his stand up comedy. This also functions as a moment of self "reflection" into a mirror where Jake realizes the problem was always him. "I could've been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am" also cuts deep in this monologue.

This interpretation goes along so well with confessions from the real Jake LaMotta in later parts of his life about himself, which is what made him write the autobiography in the first place to admit his wrongs. The film itself is based on that autobiography.

PART II

Let's now analyze what makes Jake LaMotta a "sinner" in the religious sense. As a quick recap, Pride, Greed, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, and Sloth are the seven deadly sins in Christianity. Raging Bull portrays Jake LaMotta indulge in all seven of them strongly in some way or form.

The #1 thing I love about Raging Bull is the fact that it epitomizes the age old teaching and Christian saying that "Pride" is the deadliest/worst one out of the 7 deadly sins. On paper, "Pride" doesn't sound that bad right? What's so wrong in having a bit of respect for yourself and why is "Pride" said to be worse than Envy, Greed, Lust or Wrath/Rage, all of which look instantly dangerous. This film sketches out all the answers to that.

Pride is called the "root/father of all sins" because it doesn't just destroy you by itself but it subconsciously plants the seeds for all the 6 other deadly sins to insidiously cultivate. "I still remember those cheers, they still ring in my ears" is the iconic opening line of the film where Jake reflects on where his immense amounts of pride stemmed from: the success and validation being a great boxer brought him. It planted the idea in him that he is the superior and can beat down anyone in a ring and hence he can beat down anyone in his personal life, even if it is his wife or brother.

This later gives rise to

  • Lust, pursuing other women and staying up all night late at nightclubs while being married
  • Envy, over Vikkie making the smallest compliment over Jake's opponent which escalated to insane amounts of paranoia over his wife
  • Wrath, which should be self-explanatory given his nickname "Raging Bull" and during the scene where he beats up his loved ones like an animal
  • Greed, for success and championships even if it means mutilating his opponents
  • Gluttony, which is exemplified in the later stages of his career by Jake failing to lose weight and always eating junk food to the dismay of Joey
  • and finally Sloth, which is all he ends up with at the end of the film, physically overweight and lazy comedian, forced into retirement due to weight struggles.

The final 20-30 minutes of this film portrays his downfall so viscerally. When Jake screams "I'm not an animal" all alone in an isolation prison, punching his hurtful hands against the wall, it feels like Jake has realized the biggest battle he had to win wasn't inside no boxing ring, but inside his own mental cage that he had built for himself with his vices and excessive pride.

There is this quick run-through of years in Jake LaMotta's life from 1944 to 1947 around the 40 minute mark of this film which does heavy lifting symbolically. In this segment, you get the only colour shots of the film, and those are shots of Jake "winning" in his personal life, building a family/bond with Vikkie & his brother Joey. These colour shots are intertwined with the usual Black & White shots of Jake winning games in a boxing ring.

The colour shots show something transiently beautiful that Jake never really achieves anytime in his personal life later, despite his glorious professional achievements in black & white. His hunger/rage for success in the boxing world and his tendency to get envious of his wife's normal behavior is what hinders his personal life moving forward and makes it colorless.

Overall, I think Raging Bull is one of the best cautionary tales that you can find in Cinema. I was even more impressed by this film on re-watch and got inspired to write this post. I still consider it to be Martin Scorsese's best movie. I wasn't surprised when I later found out that Scorsese grew up devoutly Catholic and even considered becoming a priest.

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u/shadylaundry — 3 days ago
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THEORY: Major Hint towards the themes of Abel's upcoming album just dropped, potentially the first new album after killing "The Weeknd"

Abel has been recently openly obsessed with the Japanese "Persona" series of games. It turns out, he was obsessed with it not just from a gamer perspective, but also as an inspiration for the upcoming album.

Abel posted a picture with the developers of the game in his Finsta "gene hackerman" with a message [IMAGE 1]. As you can see, Abel told the developers that their game has been an inspiration for the upcoming album, probably his first one under a new stage name.

Admittedly I'm not a gamer, nor do I have any knowledge on the lore behind "Persona", so I asked ChatGPT about the storyline of "Persona" games and they are strikingly similar to Abel's own storyline in his discography.

[IMAGE 2] The core idea of the game is based on Carl Jung's psychology concepts. The same psychologist Carl Jung who inspired Abel's "Hurry Up Tomorrow" era. [IMAGE 3]. The character of Jenna Ortega is based on the Jungian concept of Anima and the book on psychology which Carl Jung wrote, "The Red Book" was flashed on the screen both in the "Drive" music video and Hurry Up Tomorrow movie.

[IMAGE 4] Now getting into the actual themes of the game, you can once again see glaring similarities to Abel's work. In this image 4, I've shown you themes of Persona 4, and this is pretty much exactly the themes behind the HUT era.

The whole idea of accepting the truth to discover yourself is what the climax of the film was about. The movie's tagline was "nothing hurts more than the truth" and the climax was basically Anima forcing Abel to confess the truths about his ugliness, and help him accept it. This is a necessary step to kill your mask, to kill your persona, and in Abel's case, his persona is The Weeknd.

[IMAGE 5] The latest version of the game is Persona 5, which we can assume is probably the big inspiration for Abel's upcoming album. This is themed around freedom, becoming a "complete person" after confronting the darkness. If part 4 was about accepting the truth and rejecting the persona / mask, part 5 argues taking responsibility and becoming complete. These themes are aspects we can absolutely expect Abel to tackle in his first studio album under his real name, moving past The Weeknd.

(if we assume Dawn FM is about accepting Death in Purgatory, like Jim Carrey guides him to, Persona 3's themes are a parallel to Dawn FM as well. So it's like P3 = Dawn, P4 = HUT, P5 = upcoming album?)

Ultimately, the entire narrative of Persona games of coming to terms with yourself and killing the persona is very much a parallel to Abel's narrative in his latest conceptual trilogy of albums. I can pretty much see why Abel rates the game highly and keeps on teasing it to us fans as a big inspiration, because it truly is a big inspiration.

u/shadylaundry — 27 days ago

Theories on the latest "The Abyss" tour promotion visuals

Here is the link to access the video for those who haven't seen already: https://youtu.be/I0PM68FImv0?si=HBBlKC0HtK5\_sH8X

The moment the mask gets smashed looks significant. Every show of the tour he just takes off the mask but this video extends his removal act and the mask shatters. Probably as a tie in to the leg being "final leg" for the Weeknd before "shutdown"

Plus the animated visuals of Abel looked like he was INSIDE the city that the stage is based on. In the most recent leg, the city on his stage was still broken down with building debri, which was also the case for the deserted buildings in the video.

(see my attached image)

In the animated portions of the video, Abel seems to be stuck in between 2 forces. One force is the red dressed "stargirls" and the other is the Sorayama robot. This new visual shows one stargirl extending her arms and Abel leaves the Sorayama robot behind and goes to almost touch the hand of the stargirl.

This is a callback + contrast to the Echoes of Silence video in 2021 where Sorayama robot extends her arms and Abel almost touches it. It looks like the exact same frame but the person is different. He seems to go in the opposite direction? EOS was towards Sorayama bot but this time he leaves her to go to the Stargirls?

The red dressed women pulling him back when he reaches out to a higher power also reminded me the iHeartRadio 2024 performance where he recreated the same image. This whole thing of "almost touching" is a potential nod to the famous Michaelangelo painting of "creation of adam", the first human being created with the touch of God and I think Abel is using it as an extended metaphor for the creation of Abel after killing the Weeknd mask, with the touch of this robotic woman / the stargirls?

The next leg we can potentially expect

- the pose of Sorayama statue to change. He already teased the new pose and she was already moving in this new video

- the broken city to be rebuilt to some extent coinciding with the rebirth of Abel

- something to happen to the mask. maybe a new fragile mask?

Would love to hear what else you guys thought of the visuals.

u/shadylaundry — 2 months ago

In 2021, Abel said in that *Audition* (1999) was his favourite film of all time when he was just starting out at 19, even before he made House of Balloons in this interview: https://www.gq.com/story/the-weeknd-september-cover-interview

Really happy for Abel that he got a director who made what was his favourite film growing up to direct an entire music video for him years later, must have been a dream come true.

u/shadylaundry — 2 months ago