u/speteman

I’m reading there are two types. Wondering what experience you’re RS has had with these if you’ve used both over time?

1. Standard bacteriostatic water — sterile water with 0.9% benzyl alcohol added as a preservative (this is what “BAC water” defaults to, and what your current BA10 supply is). The benzyl alcohol prevents bacterial growth across multiple draws from the same vial, which is why it’s used instead of plain sterile water. But it is not isotonic — its saline/osmotic profile doesn’t match your body’s tissue fluid.
2. Isotonic (0.9% saline) bacteriostatic water — same benzyl alcohol preservative, but formulated with 0.9% sodium chloride so the osmotic pressure matches your blood/tissue fluid. This is the one that reduces injection-site irritation — because the solution’s saline concentration matches what’s naturally in your tissue, there’s no osmotic gradient causing local stinging, burning, or swelling at the injection site. Plain BAC water, by contrast, can sting or irritate on its own simply because it’s not isotonic — independent of whatever peptide is dissolved in it.

Wondering if you’re using one and what you use it for. I’m thinking about it but not too familiar with the options. Feels like it would be good to track what I’m trying and tracking things like progress, labs, sleep, etc.

Hi there, I’ve been reading this community and others like it for a while now and doing a lot of research. Sorry in advance for the long post, but I appreciate any feedback or advice.

I really appreciate all of the contributions members of this community make regarding this topic because it’s helped me really try to understand it better, even though I’m still definitely learning. One thing that I’ve been really trying to focus on is not to be attracted to what’s discussed the most, but try to determine what outcomes I am looking for, and then find the appropriate peptides that match to that.

I have a stack that I plan to take and I’d like to get feedback from this community on anything I’m not considering please.

BACKGROUND

I am a 54 year-old male who weighs 245 pounds and I am 6‘4“ tall. My body fat I guesstimate is approximately 28%. I am generally healthy and a recent blood panel showed everything was in order with the exception of my cholesterol being very slightly over the recommended level, but I am working to bring that down with diet and exercise. Speaking of exercise I’m not a big gym type person, but I generally consider myself healthy. I plan to get into that more as I start to feel better.

I have been taking Tirzepatide now for almost 2 years and initially lost about 35 pounds but I have been plateaued for quite a while. I take 11 mg per week but I have taken as much as 15 mg per week. It does help me with appetite suppression as well as feeling full, but the effects are not nearly like they were when I began taking it. I have very mild if no side effects taking it. Mostly I use it now just to maintain my current weight, but I would like to lose more now.

I also recently discovered NAD+ a few months ago, and that has been a game changer for me in terms of mental acuity, as well as overall energy and stamina throughout the day. I feel like I need less sleep to feel rested, and I always feel locked in mentally able to focus. I have titrated up to about 300 mg per week taken across 3 to 4 doses, approximately every other day when I’m consistent I plan to continue this.

OUTCOMES I’M SEEKING

1. Continued weight loss - I plan to switch to Reta for the extra receptor, and see if it works better than tirz.

2. Physical and mental energy - NAD+ has affected me most mentally but I do see increased physical energy too. I have never experienced the flush that people talk about when taking a large enough dose, and I’m not sure I’m really looking for that either.

3. Skin and hair health - just looking to combat aging here.

Down the road, if I get the above three things going well, then with having good energy and feeling good about myself maybe I would start to work out more and actually try to build more muscle and strength. I’m already a fairly large guy, but I wouldn’t call myself overly muscular, but I am not weak or skinny either. So I think I have a good frame for it or a good starting base anyway.

THE PROPOSED STACK AND TITRATION SCHEDULE

Focusing on just the first three items in the list above here is what I am proposing to do.

I would like to substitute Reta instead of Tirzepatide to see if it is more effective for me than the tirz appetite has been. I plan to start with 2 mg in the first week and stay on that dose at least for a couple of weeks to see whether I have any adverse reaction after that I will likely move up in dosage if I am not getting the effects that are desired.

As I said, I will continue the NAD+ in parallel and recently I started to experiment even going a little bit higher on my individual doses as much as 100 mg per pin, and I have felt wonderful even at that increased dosage so I will continue to experiment there.

Assuming i’m feeling well on the Reta then I would introduce the Wolverine stack next (BPC–157 and TB-500.) i’m planning 500 µg daily of BPC–157 and 5 mg weekly of TB–500. I would either pin once or twice a day for the BPC–157, and likely twice a week at 2.5 mg of the TB–500.

I’ve read a lot about MOTS-c and I want to introduce this as well as I understand it complements the NAD+ quite well. I am looking at starting with 10 mg per week likely taken in two separate doses. I would introduce this at least several weeks after settling in on the Wolverine stack and seeing how that treats me.

Finally, I plan to take GHK–Cu subcutaneously at 2 mg per day. I also plan to use a topical cream that has GHK-Cu as well as AHK-Cu in my hair. I would introduce this last.

QUESTIONS

1. ⁠Any feedback on the stack itself? Mapped against the outcomes that I’m seeking.

2. ⁠The doses that I’ve listed are the target doses that I understand are typical for these peptides with the exception of Reta where you continue to add dosage until you get the effect you’re looking for. Should I start with lower amounts on any of these?

3. ⁠Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much in advance!