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Thought Experiment Para Sa Mga Iglesia Ni Cristo Lurkers

May apat na Bible scholars kang inimbitahan:

  • Person A: Atheist Bible Scholar
  • Person B: Jewish Bible Scholar
  • Person C: Catholic Bible Scholar
  • Person D: Protestant Bible Scholar

Tinanong mo silang lahat kung sino ang tinutukoy na “Bird of Prey” sa Isaiah 46:11.

Pare-pareho ang sagot nilang apat: Si Cyrus ng Persia.

Magkakaiba sila ng paniniwala, relihiyon, at theological background. Maaaring hindi sila magkasundo sa interpretasyon ng maraming ibang talata ng Biblia, pero pagdating sa Isaiah 46:11, iisa ang kanilang konklusyon.

Ngayon, enter Person X na hindi isang Bible scholar.

Wala siyang pagkakatulad sa apat pagdating sa interpretasyong ito. Ang sabi niya, siya raw ang “Bird of Prey,” at mali silang lahat.

Apat na Bible scholars na magkakaiba ang paniniwala, pero nagkakaisa sa interpretasyon ng talata.

Isang tao na nag-aangking siya ang tinutukoy ng talata, pero taliwas ang interpretasyon niya sa kanilang lahat.

Tanong: Sino ang mas paniniwalaan mo?

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u/waray-upay — 6 days ago
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The Dapat Isa Lang Coalition launches online signature campaign for anti-political dynasty law

The Dapat Isa Lang Coalition on Wednesday launched its online platform for its signature campaign to enact a genuine anti-political dynasty law.

The coalition seeks to prohibit political dynasties up to the 4th civil degree of consanguinity, allowing only one member of a family to hold a national elective office and only one to hold a local elective office at a time.

Interested individuals may visit the d1l.org to sign, according to the coalition.

Read more:

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/1004252/coalition-launches-online-signature-campaign-for-anti-political-dynasty-law/story/?just\\\_in

u/waray-upay — 15 days ago
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Finance Drama sa Lokal

Iglesia Ni Cristo

Distrito Ng Rizal East

Lokal ng [REDACTED]

[REDACTED], 2025

Kapatid na Arnel Macatángay

Tagapangasiwa ng Distrito

c/o Kapatid na [REDACTED]

Destinado ng Lokal

Mga Mahal na Kapatid,

Sa pagnananais ko po na maisaayos ang aming mga pagtupad sa kagawaran ng Pananalapi ay humingi po ako ng pahayag sa Lokal sa layunin na maipatupad po ang mga tuntunin na umiiral at mga ipinatutupad na sa ngayon ngunit hindi po nasusunod. Sa pagtatapos po ng aming pagharap ay tuwirang sinabi ng Kapatid na [REDACTED] na hindi sila papaayos kahit makarating na sa itaas ang dapat iparating. Ako po bilang Tagapag-ugnay ng Kagawaran ng Finance ay pumayag po na ayusin po ang lahat sa Lokal pa lamang kaya’t ginawa ko po na humingi sa kanila ng paumanhin kung nasaktan ko ang kanilang damdamin at minabuti ko po na puntahan sa kanilang tahanan upang makipagkasundo at ipabatid sa kanila ang aking layunin na maisaayos na at maipatupad ang mga tuntunin na umiiral na dati rati ay nagagawang di ito maipatupad dahil hindi nila ito marahil pinahahalagahan bagkus ay nababahiran ng pag-unawa sa kanila sa halip na sundin ang tuntunin kaya nagkakaroon na po ng suliranin gaya ng aking sinalaysay. Sa halip na sagutin ang aking pinahayag na patungkol sa paglilingkod sa Iglesia ay mga personal na batikos ang mga sinabi nya sa harap ng aming Destinado. At ng akin na silang puntahan ay hindi nila ako pinagbiyayang harapin dahilan nakahanda na ang ulat laban sa akin. Sa inyo ko na po ipinauubaya ang magiging pasya sa usaping ito bilang pagsunod na sinabi ni Kapatid na [REDACTED] Auditor ng Distrito na kung hindi nasusunod ang tuntunin at kinakailangan ang tulong ng Distrito ay dapat iugnay ko po ito sa inyo upang matulungan kami.

Ang Inyong Kapatid sa Panginoon,

[REDACTED]

u/waray-upay — 1 month ago
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PNK Questionnaire

Easy Round Question ( 1 pts in each correct answer)

  1. Sa panahon ng pagsamba, dapat nating taglayin ang buong paggalang.
    TAMA O MALI

  2. Bawal sa mga kaanib ng Iglesia Ni Cristo ang pag-aasawa o pakikipagtipan sa mga taga-sanlibutan o sa mga hindi kaanib sa Iglesia Ni Cristo.
    TAMA O MALI

  3. Ang Iglesia Ni Cristo ang katawan ng ating Panginoong Jesu-Cristo.
    TAMA O MALI

  4. Ang pagkakaisa ng Iglesia Ni Cristo ay aral ng ating Panginoong Diyos.
    TAMA O MALI

  5. Ang paggalang sa mga magulang ay utos ng ating Panginoong Diyos.
    TAMA O MALI

  6. Bawal sa ating mga Iglesia Ni Cristo ang pagkain ng dugo.
    TAMA O MALI

  7. Ang kapatid na Felix Y. Manalo ang sugo ng ating Panginoong Diyos sa mga huling araw.
    TAMA O MALI

  8. Tungkulin ng mga anak na igalang at sundin ang kanilang mga magulang?
    TAMA O MALI

  9. Ang pagtatagumpay na tinatamasa ngayon ng Iglesia Ni Cristo ay gawa ng tao.
    TAMA O MALI

  10. Kasalanan sa Panginoong Diyos ang pagiging tamad.
    TAMA O MALI

Average Round Questions ( 3pts in each correct answer)

  1. Aling Iglesia ang ililigtas ng ating Panginoong Jesu-Cristo?
    a. Iglesia Katolika
    b. Protestante
    c. Iglesia Ni Cristo
    d. Born Again Christians

  2. Kailan pa ipinagbawal ang pagkain ng dugo sa mga kaanib sa Iglesia Ni Cristo?
    a. Panahon ni Noe
    b. Panahon ni Cain
    c. Panahon ni Eva
    d. Panahon ni Adan

  3. Sa ano itinulad ng ating Panginoong Jesu-Cristo ang mga kaanib sa kanyang Iglesia?
    a. Ilaw
    b. Bulaklak
    c. Asin
    d. a & b

  4. Sino ang dapat tularan upang magawa ang pinakamagandang paraan ng pagpapamisyon?
    a. Si Adan
    b. Si Abraham
    c. Ang babaing taga-Samaria
    d. Si Pedro

  5. Ano ang pananagutan ng mga kaanib sa Iglesia Ni Cristo upang manatiling nagkakaisa ang lahat?
    a. Pasakop sa Namamahala
    b. Pasakop sa mga sanlibutan
    c. Pasakop at sumunod sa namamahala
    d. Wala sa mga nabanggit

  6. Kailan bubuhayin ang ibang mga patay na hindi kaanib sa Iglesia Ni Cristo at ano ang gagawin sa kanila?
    a. Bubuhayin sila pagkalipas ng 100 taon upang ibulid sa apoy
    b. Bubuhayin sila pagkalipas ng 10 taon upang ibulid sa apoy
    c. Bubuhayin sila pagkalipas ng 1000 taon upang ibulid sa apoy
    d. Bubuhayin sila pagkalipas ng mahabang panahon, at tatahan sa Bayang banal

  7. Alin ang tinutukoy sa hula ng Biblia ng timugan at hilagaan na pumipigil sa pinagsuguan ng Panginoong Diyos?
    a. Timugan ay tumutukoy sa bansa sa Europa;
    Hilagaan ay tumutukoy sa Amerika
    b. Timugan ay tumutukoy sa Iglesia Ni Cristo sa Pilipinas
    Hilagaan ay tumutukoy sa ibang bansa
    c. Timugan ay tumutukoy sa Iglesia Katolika
    Hilagaan ay tumutukoy sa Protestantismo
    d. Wala sa nabanggit

  8. Aling bansa ang kintutupan ng Malayong Silangan?
    a. America
    b. Pilipinas
    c. Africa
    d. Hawaii

  9. Ano ang ibig sabihin daragitin?
    a. Ipahamak
    b. Kukunin
    c. Aagawin
    d. Dadalhin

  10. Sa ano itinulad ang Gawain ng sugoong kisangkapang Panginoong Diyos upang alisin ang mga tao mula sa mga maling relihiyon?
    a. Asin upang maalis ang kabulukan
    b. Ilaw na nagliliwanag
    c. Ibong mandaragit
    d. Lahat ng nabanggit

Difficult Round Questions ( 5pts in each correct answer)

  1. Bakit ipinagbabawal ng Panginoong Diyos ang pagkain ng dugo?

    Sagot: Sapagkat ang dugo ang siyang buhay

  2. Sa anong pagkakataon laging itinuturo sa atin ang mga salita ng Diyos?

    Sagot: Sa panahon ng ating mga pagsamba sa Diyos

  3. Kung ginawa tayo ng masama ng ating mga kapatid, dapat ba tayong maghiganti?

    Sagot: Huwag gantihan ng masama ang masama

  4. Ano ang masamang ibubunga ng pakikisama sa masamang barkada?

    Sagot: Nakakasira ito ng magagandang ugali

  5. Ano ang pananagutan ng mga kabataang Cristiano sa kanilang mga magulang sa pananampalataya?

    Sagot: Igalang at sundin sila- pahalagahan ang kanilang payo at saway

  6. Bakit tungkulin nating magmisyon o ipamahagi sa iba ang ating pananampalataya?

    Sagot: Sapagkat ginawa tayong ilaw ng sanlibutan

  7. Anong uri ng pagkatakot sa Diyos ang taglay ng nagtitiwala at umaasa sa kaniya?

    Sagot: Ito ang banal na takot sa Diyos

  8. Ano ang ipinag-utos ng Diyos sa atin ukol sa mga kapatid natin sa pananampalataya?

    Sagot: Ibigin ang kapatid sa pananampalataya

  9. Sino ang tanging makapagtuturo ng tunay na karunungan?

    Sagot: Ang Diyos ang tanging nakaaalam

  10. Sino ang sugo ng Panginoong Diyos sa mga huling araw na ito?

Sagot: Ang Kapatid na Felix Y. Manalo

u/waray-upay — 1 month ago
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Nagkakaubusan na ng PD sa isang lokal sa distrito ng Koronadal. Puro bakante.

Iglesia Ni Cristo

Distrito ng Koronadal City, South Cotabato

[LOCALE REDACTED]

[DATE REDACTED]

Kapatid na EDUARDO V. MANALO

Tagapamahalang Pangkalahatan

Mahal na kapatid,

Buong galang po naming hilinging na maitalaga si [NAME REDACTED], PD3 ng lokal, sa pagka- Pangulong Diakono, sapagkat ang dating Pangulong Diakono po ng lokal ay namayapa na at ang II Pangulong Diakono naman po ay natiwalag sa Iglesia dahil sa pamumuhay ng labag sa doktrina.

Pinatutunayan po naming siya ay masiglang kaanib sa aming lokal, mananampalataya, mapagkakatiwalaan, tumutulong sa mga gugulin, nakikipagkaisa sa lahat ng mga aktibidad at gawain sa loob ng Iglesia, at namumuhay ng ayon sa mga kalooban ng Diyos.

Anoman po ang inyong magiging pasiya ay siya pong lubos naming susundin at igagalang.

Hanggang dito na lamang po.

Ang inyo pong mga kapatid sa Panginoon,

Bakante po

V Pang. Diakono

Bakante po

IV Pang. Diakono

[NAME REDACTED]

III Pang. Diakono

Bakante po

II Pang. Diakono

Bakante po

Pangulong Diakono

[NAME REDACTED]

Destinado

u/waray-upay — 1 month ago
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Ronald Llamas dropping hints that Bato de la Rosa’s “protector” might just be Iglesia Ni Cristo

u/Hukluban_ — 1 month ago
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Confirmed: Iglesia Ni Cristo Manitoba reported transferring C$38.65 million to Central in 2011. This is equivalent to approximately ₱1.69 billion.

Remember my post here?

https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/s/a7xeg6n1ya

Note: The Philippine Arena groundbreaking was in 2011, and that same year, INC Manitoba reported C$38.65M in expenditures outside Canada, specifically to Central Office.

For context, this is four times higher than in 2024 (C$9.12 million).

Here is the official Canadian government data: https://open.canada.ca/data/en/dataset/8e4fbdda-f73e-4c49-b0f3-79b86d4a81fb/resource/7a459c45-a3c2-439d-9fea-c8ba215cd914/view/286ffb6c-99ae-48a8-a263-b6a1301d92b9

For anyone who knows how to dig deeper into this, please do so. I think this deserves a much closer look.

The only thing we need now is to establish that the money was indeed used for building the Philippine Arena. If that connection can be established, I hope the CRA will take notice.

u/waray-upay — 1 month ago
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Eagle Broadcasting Corporation (Operator of NET25) Average Salary is ₱14,572.51 per Month

  1. Total Payroll
    ₱30,216,375.81 (Cost of Service) + ₱16,998,563.90 (Operating Expenses) = ₱47,214,939.71

  2. Combined Annual Average per Employee
    ₱47,214,939.71 ÷ 270 employees = ₱174,870.15 per employee/year

  3. Combined Monthly Average per Employee
    ₱174,870.15 ÷ 12 months = ₱14,572.51 per employee/month

u/waray-upay — 1 month ago
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INC reportedly cost a bank ₱1 billion through a member boycott in 1998... and other dirty schemes during Eraño Manalo’s administration, according to a PCIJ investigation

'A Most Powerful Union'

by MALOU MANGAHAS and AVIGAIL M. OLARTE

ON THE SLOPES of Montalban, Rizal, a short distance form the low-cost government housing project that has been named "Erap City," the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) is building 1,300 two-bedroom houses on a 29-hectare property it has christened Pamayanan Ng Tagumpay or Victory Town.

In Dasmariñas, Cavite, INC members are living in 500 two-story townhouses that the church built in 1996.

In Barangay Culiat, Quezon City, INC ministers, deacons and deaconesses are moving into three newly constructed buildings that house 120 condominium units.

INC members and ministers pay subsidized rental—about P200 a month for the Montalban houses. That is, as long as they remain faithful to the church.

These constructions give an indication of how a small, minority church can command the obedience of at least two million people and propagate itself despite the ostracism of bigger churches.

At the most basic level, the INC provides for the welfare needs of its flock, such as jobs and housing for its poorest members. The INC is run like a tightly knit family, where members look out for one other. It also offers the rewards of the other life, promising that as sure as the soaring turrets of the Iglesia's Gothic-style churches pierce the sky, salvation will be granted believers.

At the same time, the 88-year old INC is a shrewd political and business operator. It parlays the votes of its members for political and financial concessions to the church.

Iglesia doctrine is based on the Bible and the "prophetic interpretations" of church founder Felix Y. Manalo, who left both the Catholic and the Protestant churches before founding the INC in 1914.

Manalo's son Eraño is now the powerful executive minister of the church, while grandson Eduardo is deputy executive minister. They and 11 other senior ministers compose the "Central Administration," which issue edicts that church members are compelled to follow.

Pasugo, the church's official publication, asserts the church's fundamental article of faith: that INC members constitute "the elect of God" and that God listens to them alone. To them, there is no salvation outside the Iglesia.

As Fernando Elesterio wrote in a dissertation submitted to De la Salle University: "It is this exclusivist attitude, generated naturally by the teachings of the ministers, that bestows on the members a sense of security and even of pride in their organization."

"It does not matter that they are few, compared to those in the Catholic Church, or if they are viewed as unlettered; after all, they will go to heaven while the rest of mankind will go to hell."

The church's Internal Constitution lays down strict rules of behavior for its members. Drunkenness, adultery, and disobedience of church teachings are punishable by expulsion. Church members are also not allowed to join unions, making them ideal recruits for certain business establishments. "The church itself is a union, a most powerful union," said a senior INC member.

The INC was founded on the eve of the World War I with only four ministers and 12 disciples. By 1936, it had grown to 300 ministers and evangelists with 500 churches and 350 chapels on Luzon island, according to the Encyclopedia of the Philippines.

Julita Reyes Sta. Romana, in her seminal study of the INC, said that by the 1950s, the church was recruiting from 10,000 to 15,000 converts a year. The 1990 Census of Population and Housing places the number of Iglesia members at 1.4 million, three times more than its membership in 1970.

The INC has members among overseas Filipinos as well and says it has churches in 66 countries, including 39 in the United States, 23 in Asia, 15 in Europe, 11 in Australia and Oceania, and eight in Africa.

But it is not numbers alone that make the INC such an influential church today. The Iglesia commands strict obedience from its members. It votes as a bloc, and its leaders are wooed by politicians eager for support.

As explained in the May-June 1986 issue of the INC's official publication, Pasugo: "The Church of Christ observes unity even in electing public officials (Philippians 2:2:3; I Corinthians 1:10). This is not to interfere with politics, but in obedience to God's commandment. This unity is never betrayed by a true member of the church of Christ, even if some would be displeased."

INC claims to have 2 million members of voting age, although pollster Felipe Miranda believes that the actual figure is closer to 1 to 1.5 million. At the national level, this bloc is a strategic swing vote, especially in multiparty electoral contests for the Senate. It is a swing vote for the presidential race as well, but only if there are multiple candidates. At the local level, especially in Luzon, the Iglesia command vote could determine the fate of a candidate.

Lito Banayo, Estrada's ex-political affairs adviser, said, "In areas with 100,000 voters, 15,000 INC voters is your margin of victory." Banayo joined Estrada's campaign team in 1998 and he notes that the INC bailiwicks were also Estrada's—the Tagalog-speaking regions.

Who the INC votes for depends in large part on what these candidates can do—or have done—for the church, even if they are not exactly paragons of the virtuous life that the Iglesia proclaims as ideal.

Thus, unlike the Catholic Church, the INC supported President Joseph Estrada even if he had several mistresses. The Iglesia also did not raise moral objections to the excesses committed by the late strongman Ferdinand Marcos.

The INC's approach is more pragmatic. "The leaders say that for a long time, these guys have been helping us," explained a senior member. "They give the kapatid (brethren) jobs, they protect the church's interest. And then they ask, 'Who in politics is without sin or vices anyway?'"

Caloocan City's former mayor, Macario Asistio, for instance, is a long-time INC ally. When Asistio, Estrada's buddy, lost to Rey Malonzo, the favored candidate of President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, many INC members also lost their jobs at the Caloocan City Hall.

The INC exercises its clout outside the realm of politics as well. In 1998, a big commercial bank sued the church in a dispute over property that had been offered for sale to both the bank and the INC.

The bank had acquired the land earlier, but a relative of INC Executive Minister Erano "Erdie" Manalo brokered its sale to the church, unaware of the earlier transaction.

"The church felt insulted it was being sued in court," an influential INC member said. "You don't go to court or go public at once. Usually, you call up the Iglesia first."

Stung by the lawsuit, church leaders ordered all their members employed by the bank to resign and called on all the faithful to pull their money out of the bank. The bank lost P1 billion. In time, the case was settled amicably, with the bank properly advised never to cross the INC in public or in court again.

Sen. Panfilo Lacson, a non-Iglesia, knows this lesson well. Some years ago, as a senior police officer, Lacson faced a dilemma over what to do with controversial police Col. Romeo Maganto, a kapatid. "Lacson had to go to the central (INC headquarters in Quezon City) to secure permission to fire Maganto," the member recalled. "The permission was given."

Over the years, the INC's business interests have grown. A search at the Securities and Exchange Commission showed that INC leaders are incorporators and board directors in companies engaged in education (New Era University Inc.; Global Foundation for the New Era); medical care (New Era General Hospital; Felix Manalo Puericulture and Maternity Clinic), mass media (Scan Society of Communicators; Association of Christians in IT); manufacturing (Hi Mill Corporation); construction (Ramdustrial Corp.); and legal service (Christian Lawyers Association Foundation).

Former Justice Secretary Serafin Cuevas, one of Estrada's defense lawyer and a senior INC member, is a trustee of the New Era University and officer of Amalgamated Management and Development Corp., which has secured the contracts for production of driver's licenses, identification cards, and motor vehicle plates from the Marcos to the Estrada regimes.

It is not uncommon for the INC to attempt to secure the best deals for its projects. The church's housing projects in Montalban, Rizal and in Dasmarinas, Cavite are instructive cases.

In both projects, the INC began construction even if it had not secured all the necessary development permits and environmental compliance certificates (ECC).

In Montalban, the church has a development permit and zoning/locational clearance only for Phase 1 of the five-phase project, and building permits for only two-thirds of housing units it wants to construct. These permits were given the by sangguniang bayan despite the INC's failure to produce a prior requirement - the ECC.

Oscar Ferrer, senior environmental management specialist of the Provincial Environment and Natural Resources Office of Rizal, worries about what could be an "environmentally critical project."

"The site is only moderately sloping. What makes it critical, as reported by residents in the area, is that the area has an earthquake fault line that might be connected to the Marikina fault," Ferrer said.

In Dasmariñas, municipal Engineer Gregorio Bermejo certifies that the INC project has little documentation except for an approved site development plan. The Department of Environment and Natural Resources' Region 4 office says it has no record of any ECC application for any housing project in Cavite under the INC's name.

The INC is trying to wangle tax-exemption deals as well. In 2000, the Montalban municipal assessor declared the 29 hectares of church lands used for housing to be taxable, and three hectares for the chapel, exempted from taxes. The assessor estimated that the INC would have to pay some P5 million in taxes.

The church, however, refused, arguing that the INC project was not meant for profit and should therefore be tax-exempt. The INC leaders also wrote personal letters to Rizal Gov. Rebecca Ynares, who endorsed the matter to Montalban Mayor Pedro Cuerpo.

Former Rizal Provincial Assessor Oscar Baraquero denied the request, saying "the housing project which you claimed for charitable and philanthropic effort does not squarely fall under the provisions of the law, as these are intended solely for the members of INC…the term charitable is an act of humanity without distinction or limitations as to religious belief, creed or social affiliation."

The tax debate has been raised to the Department of Finance for decision.

Meanwhile, Montalban officials are in a quandary. The INC has dangled before them the fact that they have many voters in the municipality. "'Yung pwersa ng boto nila ang panlaban nila," said one local official. "Maraming takot diyan sa Iglesia. (They use their votes as bait and many are afraid of them.)"

INC members have also barred DENR inspectors from entering the other phases of the Montalban project. One inspector said he feared asserting himself because INC members are armed.

(The PCIJ exerted every effort to speak with INC spokesman Lowell Menorca, who is the only person authorized to speak for the Church. Menorca did not want to be interviewed, saying he is on a provincial tour.)

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u/waray-upay — 2 months ago
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Bakit ba kayo kabado sa nangyayari kay Marcoleta? Akala ko ba may tiwala kayo sa hukuman ng Pilipinas.

For context, this was part of INC’s official statement following the arrest of former President Duterte.

u/waray-upay — 2 months ago
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Iglesia Ni Cristo Is Losing Share Among Younger Filipinos

Let's look beyond INC's overall 2.6% share of the Philippine population and see where that share actually comes from.

Look at the pattern when we break them down by age:

Age 2015 2020 Change
0–4 2.36% 2.22% −0.15 pp
5–9 2.48% 2.38% −0.09 pp
10–14 2.66% 2.60% −0.06 pp
15–19 2.74% 2.70% −0.04 pp
20–24 2.69% 2.58% −0.11 pp
25–29 2.66% 2.55% −0.11 pp
30–34 2.67% 2.61% −0.06 pp
35–39 2.69% 2.65% −0.03 pp
40–44 2.80% 2.68% −0.11 pp
45–49 2.85% 2.78% −0.07 pp
50–54 2.82% 2.82% ~0
55–59 2.76% 2.80% +0.04 pp
60–64 2.64% 2.71% +0.07 pp
65–69 2.52% 2.59% +0.07 pp
70–74 2.38% 2.46% +0.07 pp
75–79 2.45% 2.32% −0.13 pp
80+ 2.24% 2.23% ~0

What stands out is that almost every age group below 50 lost INC share from 2015 to 2020, while several older groups actually gained.

In other words, INC is generally growing more slowly than the Philippine population among those below 50.

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u/waray-upay — 2 months ago
▲ 61 r/exIglesiaNiCristo

Iglesia Ni Cristo Membership Growth 2015–2020: Only 1 Bunga per 390 Adults

I looked at Iglesia Ni Cristo’s 2015 and 2020 age data to get a rough idea of how much of the change in membership could have come from new non-handog converts.

The main issue is that children shouldn’t automatically be counted as converts. INC’s minimum baptismal age is generally around 12, so younger children are more likely to have been born into or raised in existing INC families.

Because the data are grouped into five year age brackets, I’m using 15 as the cutoff here. This is simply the closest practical cutoff to INC’s minimum baptismal age of 12.

Method

I matched each 2015 age group with the corresponding 2020 age group five years later.

For example, the 2015 10–14 group becomes the 2020 15–19 group.

I excluded the 2015 0–4 → 2020 5–9 group and the 2015 5–9 → 2020 10–14 group because they were still under 15 in 2020.

I also excluded the new 2020 0–4 group.

2015 group → 2020 group 2015 2020 Change
10–14 → 15–19 279,390 283,450 +4,060
15–19 → 20–24 279,448 258,223 −21,225
20–24 → 25–29 254,502 235,568 −18,934
25–29 → 30–34 222,366 213,553 −8,813
30–34 → 35–39 196,169 191,555 −4,614
35–39 → 40–44 181,130 175,223 −5,907
40–44 → 45–49 163,506 155,752 −7,754
45–49 → 50–54 150,705 139,839 −10,866
50–54 → 55–59 125,065 115,623 −9,442
55–59 → 60–64 99,492 91,380 −8,112
60–64 → 65–69 72,778 62,083 −10,695
65–69 → 70–74 48,278 38,754 −9,524
70–74 → 75–79 29,087 21,589 −7,498
75–79 & 80+ → 80+ 38,789 21,340 −17,449

The result is pretty interesting.

After removing the cohorts that were still under 15 in 2020, there is only one cohort that increased.

The 2015 10–14 group became the 2020 15–19 group and increased by only 4,060.

Every other cohort declined.

If we make the most generous assumption and attribute that entire +4,060 to net new membership, we get:

Net increase in the only positive cohort: 4,060

2015 adult base, age 20+: 1,581,867

That gives us:

0.0026 net increase per adult over five years

Or roughly 1 net increase for every 390 existing adults over the entire five year period.

Annualized, that is about 1 per 1,950 adults per year.

But I would not call the 4,060 “4,060 converts.”

That number is only the net change in that specific cohort. People could have joined through baptism or transfer while others left, died, migrated, or changed how they reported their religion. Census and reporting differences could affect the numbers too.

There’s another limitation. The 10–14 group in 2015 wasn't entirely made up of people who could only become members after 2015. Since INC generally allows baptism from around age 12, some of them could already have been baptized before the 2015 census.

Again, I’m using 15 as the cutoff because the data are in five year age groups. It isn’t meant to imply that INC’s baptismal minimum is 15.

What does this tell us?

I don’t think this proves that Iglesia Ni Cristo had only 4,060 converts between 2015 and 2020. The data can’t tell us that.

What it does show is that once the younger cohorts are removed, there isn’t much positive net movement left to explain.

The larger numbers in the younger age groups shouldn’t automatically be treated as evidence of bunga or pag-aakay. A significant portion of those people could simply be children born into or raised in existing INC families.

Among the older cohorts, almost every group became smaller over the five year period. That means they either migrated, died, or no longer identify as INC. Take note that the net change among ALL adults is still negative. The supposed "bunga" is not enough to compensate for it.

So if we use the census to get a rough idea of Iglesia Ni Cristo’s conversion growth, the picture looks much less impressive once children are separated from the analysis.

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u/waray-upay — 2 months ago
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How to Brainwash Children 101

Transcription:

PASALAMAT PARA SA IKA-105 ANIBERSARYO NG IGLESIA NI CRISTO

NARARAPAT LAMANG NA TAYO AY MAGPASALAMAT SA DIYOS NGAYON NA MAY KALAKIP NA HANDOG

PANIMULA

Mga Tanong Sagot

Mga kapatid na kabataan, bago tayo magsimula ng pag-aaral ang ating leksyon, ano ang espesyal na okasyon ang ating ginugunita sa araw na ito? ✓ Pasalamat

Kanino tayo dapat magpasalamat? ✓ Sa ating Panginoong Diyos

Sa ating pagpapasalamat, ano ang dapat na dala ng bawat isa sa atin? ✓ Handog po

Nakahanda na ba kayong makinig sa ating leksyon? ✓ Opo

Nangangako ba kayong sasagot kayo ng malakas at masigla? ✓ Opo

Kung kayo ay nakahanda, narito ang paksa ng ating leksyon: NARARAPAT LAMANG NA TAYO AY MAGPASALAMAT SA DIYOS NGAYON NA MAY KALAKIP NA HANDOG ✓ (Babasahin ng mga bata ng malakas ang paksa ng leksyon)

UNANG BILANG

Mga kapatid na kabataan, ilang taon na ang Iglesia Ni Cristo ngayon?

✓ 105

Ano ang dapat nating ipagpasalamat sa ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Kaniyang pag-ibig na di nagmamaliw at mga kahanga-hangang gawa sa atin

Yung taglay nating buhay at lakas, kahayagaan ba iyon ng pag-ibig na di nagmamaliw ng ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Opo

Ang mabilis na pagdami nang naipatatayong gusali sambahan, at Philippine Arena, kahayagaan din ba yun ng kahanga-hangang gawa ng ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Opo

Kaya mga kapatid na kabataan, tayo ba mapalad o sawimpalad?

✓ Mapalad po

IKALAWANG BILANG

Sa ilang bansa na nakatatag ang Iglesia Ni Cristo?

✓ 151 na bansa

At sa ilang kontinente ito nakarating?

✓ 6 na kontinente

Sa Pilipinas lamang ba nakatatag ang Iglesia Ni Cristo?

✓ Hindi po

Nakara­t­ing din ba ang gawain ng pagpapalaganap ng Iglesia Ni Cristo sa ibayong dagat?

✓ Opo

Ang Iglesia Ni Cristo ba lumiliit o lumalawak?

✓ Opo

IKATLONG BILANG

Sino ang may gawa ng lahat ng tagumpay na tinatamasa ng Iglesia Ni Cristo ngayon?

✓ Ating Panginoong Diyos

Kaya marapat ba natin itong ipagwalang-bahala o ipagpasalamat?

✓ Ipagpasalamat po

Ang tagumpay ba ng Iglesia Ni Cristo ngayon, hinahanap o kinikilala?

✓ Kinikilala po

IKAAPAT NA BILANG

Kanino tayo dapat dumulog?

✓ Sa ating Panginoong Diyos

Ano ang dapat nating dala?

✓ Handog ng Pasalamat

Ano ang dapat nating gawin para sa Panginoon?

✓ Pagpupuri

Ano ang ang uri ng ating handog pasalamat, pinagtalagahan o basta na lang?

✓ Pinagtalagahan

IKALIMANG BILANG

Mayroon bang tinatanggap ang Diyos sa mga nagpapasalamat sa kanya?

✓ Mayroon po

Ano ang nilulugod sa ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Handog na masama po

Sino ang hindi nalulugod sa handog na masama?

✓ Ang ating Panginoong Diyos

Ano ang halimbawa ng handog na masama, yung bang handog na galing sa sugal o pandaraya sa ating kapwa, mabuti o masama?

✓ Masama po

IKAANIM NA BILANG

Sino ang itinuturing ng Diyos na masama?

✓ Mga taong di tumatalima sa kanyang salita

Yung bang pagiging suwail sa kanilang magulang, halimbawa ba iyon ng mga taong di tumatalima sa kanyang mga salita?

✓ Opo

Kung tayo man maghandog ngunit, patuloy pa rin sa paggawa ng masama, nakalulugod ba yun sa ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Hindi po

IKAPITONG BILANG

Ayon sa ating leksyon, sino ang dapat nating sundin at igalang?

✓ Magulang po

Yung bang paggalang at pagsunod sa ating mga magulang, utos o di utos ng ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Utos po

Kapag ba tayo inuutusan ng ating mga magulang, dapat ba tayong magdabog o sumunod ng maayos?

✓ Sumunod ng maayos po

Kapag tayo sumunod sa mga utos ng ating Panginoong Diyos, tayo ba papalain o paparusahan?

✓ Pagpapalain po

IKAWALONG BILANG

Sino ang may utos na huwag bumarkada sa masama?

✓ Ating Panginoong Diyos

Kanino tayo dapat na huwag bumarkada?

✓ Masama

Mga kapatid na kabataan, dapat ba tayong sumama sa mga mayroong bisyo at gumagamit ng ipinagbabawal na gamot?

✓ Hindi po

Dapat ba din tayong sumama sa barkadang palaaway at nagmumura?

✓ Hindi po

Kanino tayo dapat sumama sa mabuti o masamang barkada?

✓ Mabuting barkada po

IKASIYAM NA BILANG

Mayroon bang masamang sasapitin ang mga hindi sumusunod sa ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Mayroon po

Ano ang matatawag ng mga taong hindi sumusunod sa ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Kapahamakan

Kalulugdan ba at tatanggapin kaya ng ating Panginoong Diyos ang handog ng mga taong hindi sumusunod?

✓ Hindi po

Dapat ba nating bawasan ang ating Handog sa ating Panginoong Diyos? Dapat ba rin natin itong ibibigay ng kendi sa tindahan?

✓ Hindi po

Ano ang marapat nating gawin sa ating handog, ihanda ng buong puso o labag sa ating kalooban?

✓ Ihahandog ng buong puso po

IKASAMPUNG BILANG

Ano ang marapat nating gawin upang malugay tayong tanggapin ng ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Magpakabuti at talikdan ang masamang gawain

Ano ang dapat nating talikdan?

✓ Masamang gawain

Gumagawa man tayo sa ating Panginoong Diyos, lumalayo o lumalapit sa masamang gawain?

✓ Lumalayo po sa masamang gawain

IKALABING-ISANG BILANG

Sino ang kinalulugdan ng ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Ang handog ng taong may pagpapakumbaba at nagsising puso

Dapat ba nating dalutan ang handog ng taong may pagpapakumbaba at nagsising puso?

✓ Opo

Ano nga yung ating dapat taglayin upang tayo kalugdan din ng ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Mapagkumbaba at nagsising puso

Mga kapatid na kabataan, kapag tayo ay may nagawang kasalanan, ano ang dapat nating gawin, magmalaki o magsisi?

✓ Magsisi po

IKALABING-DALAWANG BILANG

Ano ang tatanggapin ng ating Panginoong Diyos sa mga lingkod niya na nagpapakumbaba?

✓ Haing pasalamat

Sino ang malapit sa Diyos?

✓ May mapagpakumbabang puso

Kapag tayo ay may mapagkumbabang puso yung handog ba, tiyak o di tiyak na tatanggapin ng ating Panginoong Diyos?

✓ Tiyak na tatanggapin po

IKALABING-TATLONG BILANG

Mayroon bang pangako ang Diyos sa mga matuwid at sumusunod sa kanyang mga utos?

✓ Mayroon po

Sino ang mga matuwid?

✓ Ang mga matuwid at sumusunod sa kanya

Yung bang matuwid at sumusunod mga utos ng ating Panginoong Diyos, susunod pa siya kahit walang nakikita?

✓ Opo

Yung bang masunurin, iniingay pati ang kanyang nakukus­ana na?

✓ Nagkukusa na

Hal: Sa tuwing araw ng pagsamba, uulan man o umaraw, yung masunurin ba, sasamba pa rin o hindi na?

✓ Sasamba po

IKALABING-APAT NA BILANG

Dapat ba tayong matakot o mangamba sa buhay na ito?

✓ Hindi po

Kanino tayo dapat maglagak ng pagtitiwala?

✓ Sa ating Panginoong Diyos

Kung tayo man ay makarinig ng mga masasamang balita laban sa Iglesia Ni Cristo, dapat ba tayong mangamba?

✓ Hindi po

Bagkus, ano ang marapat nating gawin, magtiwala sa Ama, o panawan ng pag-asa?

✓ Magtiwala sa Ama po

Mga kapatid na kabataan, tayo ba aalis po o mananatili sa Iglesia?

✓ Mananatili po

Dapat ba nating ikarangal na tayo ay kaanib sa loob ng Iglesia Ni Cristo?

✓ Opo

u/waray-upay — 2 months ago
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Grabe ka naman Kapatid na Rowell. Lahat talaga kailangang pumirma?

Transcription

Iglesia Ni Cristo

Distrito ng Rosales, Pangasinan

Lokal ng Sto.Tomas

May 22, 2025

Kapatid na Rowell A. De Lara Tagapangasiwa

Mahal na kapatid,

Narito po ang mga hakbang na patuloy naming isasagawa upang mas mapababa pa po ang porsyento ng hindi sumasamba sa aming lokal. Ito po ay ang mga sumusunod:

  1. Patuloy po naming isasagawa ang panunundo sa mga kapatid na may pagliban sa pagsamba.

  2. Tuwing bisperas po ng pagsamba, papaalahanan po namin ang mga kapatid na kinabukasan po ay araw ng aming pagsamba.

  3. Tuwing matatapos po ang araw at oras ng pagsamba sa aming lokal, titignan na po ng mga Katiwala ng Grupo ang tarheta board, upang mapaalalahanan nila ang mga sakop po nila na hindi pa nakasamba.

  4. Patuloy po naming isinasagawa sa Lokal ang pagpapanata tuwing bisperas ng pagsamba, ito po ay dinadaluhan ng mga maytungkulin.

  5. Kinakatulong din po namin ang mga maytungkulin sa Kapisianan sa mga pagdadalaw.

  6. Sa panig po ng mga mangangalaga patuloy po kaming magrerecruit.

Maraming Salamat Po.

Ang Inyong mga Kapatid sa Panginoon,

  1. Pangulong Binhi
  2. Pangulong Kadiwa
  3. Pangulong Buklod
  4. Pangulong Kalihim
  5. Katuwang na Pamunuan
  6. Pangulong Diakono-5
  7. Pangulong Diakono-4
  8. Pangulong Diakono-3
  9. Pangulong Diakono-2
  10. Pangulong Diakono
  11. Katuwang na Manggagawa
  12. Katuwang na Manggagawa
  13. Katuwang na Ministro
  14. Destinado
u/waray-upay — 2 months ago