r/exIglesiaNiCristo

Hi hahaha, it doesn’t seem like I have a choice but to take college in NEU. For those who have had experience in NEU, how do I survive it? Hindi rin naman ako Iglesia haha. I’ve seen some experiences here on Reddit, and nakaka-disappoint malaman kasi I’m about to enter college, and this’ll be my first experience. I need to know how y’all survived NEU :,))))

hello. isa po akong pimo at sobrang tagal na mula nung huli kong pagsamba. may tanong po ako sana or need advice dahil may nagtext na unknown number sakin mukhang kalihim ito (usually nakablock ang mga unknown numbers sakin) at nanghihingi siya ng katibayan kung nakakasamba pa ba ako sa ibang locale in which wala ako ni isa haha. dapat ba akong kabahan or hayaan ko lang yung message? will that put me in trouble ba kapag di ko pinansin or di ako nagbigay ng katibayan? hindi rin ako makaalis pa sa kulto na to dahil sa pamilya ko at iniiwasan ko nalang ang gulo pero ayaw na ayaw ko na rito at sobrang luwag ng paghinga for the past months na di ako sumasamba. thank you.

For context, I am a Born again Christian, never nagpa convert kasi ayaw ko magpa convert dahil lang sa lalaki. I want to find it in myself if I am really for their church. So my INC bf (35yrs old), napagod na maghintay sa akin kung magpapa convert ba ako cheated on me sa kawork nya na willing daw maging Iglesia.

Inulat ko sya sa church nila, nag gather ako ng evidence kasi taga sanlibutan din naman ang ipinalit sa'kin. I guess I am so traumatized and mad sa ginawa nya sakin. Alam ko ding may kasalanan ako kasi nag entertain ako ng hindi ko kareligion. Muntikan na din ako magpa convert pero nung nalaman ko na niloloko na ako, hindi na ako nagpatuloy. Mahal ko sya, kaso I was so devastated sa ginawa nya. Hindi ko akalain na lolokohin nya ako. As an INC, my bf is so calm, collected, paladasal, mabait... Pero nasa loob pala ang kulo. Btw, may tungkulin din ang BF ko sa church and even parents nya may tungkulin din.

For someone na hindi Iglesia, sabi nila malakas daw loob ko kasi nakausap ko mismo ang ministro ng lokal nila. With all the pieces of evidence na dala ko, sapat na daw 'yun sabi ng ministro. Unang tanong agad sakin, are we engaging daw ba sa premarital sex. We were together for 5.5 years but we have never done the deed pa, pero hanggang third base lang. I told the ministro everything and I asked if considered ba ang third base as premarital sex. He said yes. And I said if that's the case, then yes we're engaging in premarital sex.

To make my long post short, sa mga fellow INC dyan, sa tingin nyo matitiwalag 'tong cheater kong ex? Alam ko I should have moved on na pero nasa anger stage kasi talaga ako ngayon. Ibang klase talaga ang maloko. Sa 6 years, may plans na kami sa future pero ang hindi na lang nagagawa is ang umanib pa, dahil I am still finding in myself kung bukal ba sa loob ang gagawin ko.

Kinuwento ko sa ministro na nakiusap ang BF ko at mga magulang nya na 'wag ko silang iuulat. The ministro said wag daw ako matakot. Pinangaralan din ako about sa doctrine nila na ngayon ko lang narerealize kung gaano kamali ang ginawa ng bf ko na i-date ako habang natupad sya sa tungkulin.

Gusto ko na matanggal galit sa puso ko. Ayaw ko talaga syang iulat pero wala na nagawa ko na.. part of me din ayaw ko na alamin kung ano ang hatol ng church nila, kasi mamaya mafrustrate lang ako sa result. Kaya gusto ko din mag tanong sa ibang members ng INC 😭

Pero may part din sa loob ko na baka hindi naman pansinin yung ulat ko dahil taga sanlibutan ako. Pero kahit man lang sana ipatawag sila sa lokal nila or mapahiya, big deal na yun sakin dahil linis linisan kasi pamilya netong boyfriend ko.

naiinis ako kasi habang naliligo ako, bigla akong tinawag bumaba kasi may dumalaw sa amin para basahan kami ng kung ano ano. na hindi daw pangingialam sa politika yung mga rally na ginagawa nila kasi ginagawa na daw nila yun dati pa. na wag daw maniwala sa kaso ni marcoleta kasi pinahintulutan daw sya ni eduardo manalo. wag daw maniniwala sa sinasabi ng sanlibutan.

lumaki ako sa inc at ngayon lang ako naka experience ng dalaw tungkol sa gantong mga bagay. ang mas nakakapikon pa, pinilit pa nila ako mag tungkulin. para saan? wala naman ako makukuha dyan. nagtatrabaho at nag-aaral ako. wala akong oras para dyan.

tangina nyo mga gago

This short story happened some time between 2015-2018, I don't remember the exact year anymore.

To preface, I had (unofficially) left INC in 2012. I just stopped attending, without talking to anyone or writing up a report or anything like that. Just stopped on my own accord. Without going into too much detail, my family -- but mostly my boomer dad -- was not happy about this.

Fast forward to a few years later, my dad approaches me and requested to show him something that influenced me to leave the church.

(Before you read on, if you can't already tell, the local INC church, including my dad, were on-and-off at times pestering me about my lack of attendance. But this is neither here nor there for now, so continuing on...)

I was not aware he was going to approach me with this kind of request so I did not have anything prepared to show him. There are actually numerous sources that HELPED me to leave the church, but the only thing I could think of to offer, on the spot, was a YouTube video of a speech by the philosopher Alan Watts. [speech title redacted to avoid Reddit's filter]

Anyway, my dad told me that he would pass it on to Jose Ventilacion. This was around the time Jose spent about 6 months officiating at their local INC church.

A few days pass. My dad approaches me with an update. He shows me a text from Jose saying that he wants to debate Alan Watts on a certain passage from the Bible (I forgot which verse it was). I wish I could've asked why that verse, but I was more caught off-guard with such proposal. In my head, I was kinda laughing because of Jose's lack of research on Watts. First of all, Watts has been dead since 1973. Secondly, I don't think Watts would have agreed to the debate anyway. I'm not speaking for him but I'm pretty damn sure he would have saw it as a waste of time.

I feel, in my opinion, that Watts' speech left such an impact on Jose that he regarded him to be a formidable opponent, and if true, rightfully so. Relative to Jose's background, which is not to be overlooked either, Watts' research and studies extend to several religions, including his studies on different languages. But I won't press on, his biography can be found on the internet.

In addition to this part of the story, Jose passed on two books to my dad for me to read. I don't remember the title of both books, however, one of them was written by a former atheist-turned-Christian. I thought this was funny because Jose was operating on the assumption that I was an atheist, which I am not. I didn't bother reading the books, they went straight into the waste bin.

Anyway, that's it. I feel proud knowing that a top official INC member has at least got to hear that AW speech. I wish there was a way to contact Jose directly. I'd like to pass on to him an essay written by Watts (it's about the Bible), and get his thoughts on it. Although, I doubt he would concede.

Thanks for reading.

Just witness recently some transferring into the local and becoming inactive. I know we seen this post many times, but I just want to share the success i'm seeing out there, and to let everyone know, more are leaving the church.

Nakailang sermon na sa mga pagsamba na bawal ang pag-practice ng yoga sa mga iglesia dahil bukod sa Hindu roots nito, source daw ito ng false spirituality o "cosmic consciousness" na salungat sa turo ni Cristo.

Pero yung president namin sa choir sa san fernando, pampanga, yoga instructor pa sa mga gym!! Hahaha palibhasa mayaman kaya siguro hindi magalaw ng church admin. Samantalang yung iba ma-late lang dahil galing sa school o trabaho, ang dami mo na maririnig!!

Nakakasuka na double standards ng kultong to!!

Isaiah 46:11 LEB [11] who calls a bird of prey from the east, the man of his plan from a country from afar. Indeed I have spoken; indeed I will bring it to being. I have formed it; indeed I will do it.

A religious group in the Philippines named "INC" says thats their leader Felix Manalo not Cyrus the great.

Can anyone answer this pls?

Hi everyone, may bibisita na ministro samin dito mamaya and 6 months na kasi akong di sumasamba. Ano kaya mga pwede ko sabihin na facts sa kanila? Any idea is open guys pls help me

Kailangan ko na maging diretyso sakanila na ayaw ko na talaga sumamba at bumalik sa INC