r/exIglesiaNiCristo

The text in the worship services is just being repeated over and over again. It’s getting boring. It’s no longer inspiring because it focuses only on submitting to EVM or the leadership, giving offerings, and inviting fellow Filipinos (that's why it's truly 'proud Pinoy' because only Filipinos will be saved. I feel bad for other races). And another boring thing about the worship service is when Acts 20:28 is read—the Bible they pick up is the Lamsa translation, and right after reading it, they immediately close it. The Lamsa version is only ever used when reading Acts 20:28. That's because it fits perfectly with the doctrine invented by FYM. EVM, why don't we just use Lamsa in all aspects of worship, activities, or evangelical missions? Are you hiding something? Why can't you stand by using just one Bible instead of grabbing from the left or right during the service? I hope you improve and make it inspiring, not repetitive and so long. Your explanations are almost longer than the verses you read! It’s like you want us to believe in your own words rather than the word of God.

Mind you, this is not a click bait. This is real. And I am shocked from what I saw. Marami silang mayroong videos/photos. 🤯

Talagang marami lang ang nagmamalinis sa tribuna. 🫣

I can name some. However, I cannot post here the actual media (of course).

PS: Please refrain from messaging me thru DM about the actual videos/photos. I believe sending files is against the rule of this sub.
I also want to protect myself from being doxxed.

And come on, it’s just nasty 😅

Basically, asking if they can vote in the next elections.

so they can "guide" them on who to vote for.

they say they are not political then they conduct surveys like this.

hypocrites

Saan mo nakukuha kakapalan ng mukha mo kuya? After mo tumikim ng sino sinong babae ikaw pa itong may ganang ipamukha na parang kasalanan pa ng hiniling mo kung bakit naghiwalay kayo? Buffet ba trip mo at madaming putahe ang gusto mo?

Sa ugali na nga lang po babawi. Masyado mataas lipad mo kuya baka bumagsak ka diyan.

Long post: Kasinghaba ng Manaloflix

Laging sinasabi ni EVM na huwag makikinig sa mga maling aral na nababasa, naririnig o nakikita sa social media. Huwag raw magpadaya sa mga naninira sa INC at nagpapakalat ng mga maling aral na labag sa aral ng iglesia, at nagiging dahilan upang bumitiw sa kahalalan.

Pero ano nga ba yung mga aral raw na iyon na labag sa utos ng Diyos? Wala naman siyang maibigay na halimbawa. Ano ba ang mga paninira na sinasabi niya? Wala naman siyang maipaliwanag.

Sa totoo lang kapag naririnig ko ang salitang "dinadaya ng diablo" sa bibig ni EVM, siya ang unang pumapasok sa isip ko na halimbawa ng alagad ng diablo na nandaraya sa mga tao. Hindi ba gawain rin ng mga Manalo ang mandaya ng mga tao upang umalis sa kanilang mga dating relihiyon at sumanib sa isang kulto na tinatawag na INC?

Ang unang pandaraya ay ang paniniwala kay Felix Manalo na siya ang katuparan ng sari-saring hula sa Bibliya subalit wala naman silang matibay na ebidensiya kundi self-claim lamang. Marami siyang hula na inangkin katulad ng ibong mandaragit na dapat ay kay King Cyrus. Ang titulong uod ni Jacob ay ninakaw rin ni Felix kay Kristo.

Isa pang pandaraya ay ang maling petsa ng umpisa ng World War 1. Research na lang kayo kesa makinig pa sa fairy tale ni Manalo.

Gayundin ang pagbabasa kunwari ng Bibliya na Lamsa Translation sa Gawa 20:28, pero wala naman talagang translation nito sa Tagalog na nakasulat ang "iglesia ni Cristo" kundi may nakaipit lang na papel na binabasa para ipakita na nasa Bibliya ito. Isa itong pandaraya. Kung makikita nga ninyo ang mga patong patong na Bibliya sa tabi ni EVM pag mangangasiwa, halatang hindi pa binabasa. Props lang niya para makapandaya.

Dinaraya rin ang mga miyembro sa pagsasabing nagmamalasakit ang tagapamahalang pangkalahatan. Pero ang mga miyembro hirap sa buhay samantalang ang ipinapanalangin nila na pakaingatang palagi ay nasa isang mansion naman. Kailan siya tunay na nagmalasakit sa mga miyembro? Empty words, out of reality. Pagmamalasakit ba iyong kahit matanda na ay kailangan pang patuparin at maglakad nang malayo sa lansangan sa gabi? Pagmamalasakit ba na kahit hirap ka sa buhay ay obligado ka pa ring sumulong, magbigay nang donasyon at magbigay ng kung ano anong handugan na wala naman sa Bibliya? Pero sa kabila ng dami ng naihandog mo, sa oras ng iyong pangangailangan, anong naipagmalasakit sa iyo ni Manalo? Mga miyembro ang nagmamalasakit sa isa't isa, hindi ang pamamahala. Napakalaking pandaraya lalo na sa larangan ng pananalapi. Wala nga silang maipakitang ulat ng kalagayan ng pananalapi ng iglesia.

Dinaya rin ni Manalo ang mga miyembro sa paghikayat na iboto ang isang pulitiko na isa rin palang tumatanggap ng suhol at utang na loob galing sa mga kahina-hinalang donors. Mga ministro nga raw na tumatanggap ng suhol sa mga pulitiko dinidisiplina, pero si Marcoleta, special pet ni Manalo, umamin na, ipinagtatanggol pa.

Eto pa, dinaraya ni Manalo ang mga tao sa pamamagitan ng paggamit ng pangalan ng samahan na "Iglesia ni Cristo", pero kapag naanib ka na, ang pinakasentro ng kanilang mga paniniwala ay ang pagsunod kay Manalo. Akala mo makikilala mo si Kristo? Life story ni Manalo ang maririnig mo mula PNK pa lang. Display lang ang pangalan ni Kristo at ginagamit nila para makahikayat ng mga madadaya.

Nabudol ang marami di ba?

Kaya takot si Manalo na maimpluwensiyahan ang kabataan ng social media na lumaban sa pamamahala dahil dito lamang talaga lumalabas ang tunay na saloobin at nararamdaman ng mga miyembro. Takot harapin ni Manalo ang katotohanan na marami nang miyembro, lalo na ang kabataan, ang namumulat, at lumalawak ang critical thinking. Takot siya na mabulgar ang kanilang 100+ years na pandaraya. Marahil takot na nga siya, na malapit na rin ang kaniyang wakas, at si AEVM ay nagta-takedown pa rin ng notes sa likod habang siya ay nangangasiwa.

I can't fathom how deceiving and greedy Eduardog Manalo can be. He has no shame. He is full of hypocrisies. A horrible and scoundrel evil man. I have a question for all of his mouthpiece minions. When you stand infront of the congregation and act as a mouthpiece of the EVilMan, do you even look at everyone's faces? Do they look happy? Can you feel their joy? Have they've been Inspired and hopeful of the lesson? Or maybe felt excited to sit down and listen to the repetitive and recycled lesson every week? Or you just look at blank space and pretend that everyone is happy for another series of worshit propaganda service to waste their time, energy and money for 1 to 2hrs? Or are you in denial of the facts that the members are only attending because they don't want to be visited by their annoying katiwalas?

This weekend, Eduardog once again asked you to tell the members to throw their hard earned money in the offering box so that you can once again pretend and boast that the church helps the non-members who you believe are going to hell. Have you for once, asked yourself if the members you continuously exploit to be cash cows of the Manalos are needing help as well? Have it cross your mind why does Eduardog continuously pressure the poor members to offer more money when they themselves are struggling to put foods on their table? I don't know how you can swallow these terrible things that Eduardog is doing to the poor members but I am certain that there is a pastoral house for you and your leader Eduardog in hell.

Is there anyone here (especially women) who are tattoo'd and have facial piercings? Did any manggagawa/destinado say anything to you? Is it really not allowed or do people in the church generally don't care? If not, how did you deal with it? How did you deal with you family and stuff? I personally don't give a flying fuck about what they say but I am curious about other's experience/s.

May apat na Bible scholars kang inimbitahan:

• Person A: Atheist Bible Scholar
• Person B: Jewish Bible Scholar
• Person C: Catholic Bible Scholar
• Person D: Protestant Bible Scholar

Tinanong mo silang lahat kung sino ang tinutukoy na “Bird of Prey” sa Isaiah 46:11.

Pare-pareho ang sagot nilang apat: Si Cyrus ng Persia.

Magkakaiba sila ng paniniwala, relihiyon, at theological background. Maaaring hindi sila magkasundo sa interpretasyon ng maraming ibang talata ng Biblia, pero pagdating sa Isaiah 46:11, iisa ang kanilang konklusyon.

Ngayon, enter Person X na hindi isang Bible scholar.

Wala siyang pagkakatulad sa apat pagdating sa interpretasyong ito. Ang sabi niya, siya raw ang “Bird of Prey,” at mali silang lahat.

Apat na Bible scholars na magkakaiba ang paniniwala, pero nagkakaisa sa interpretasyon ng talata.

Isang tao na nag-aangking siya ang tinutukoy ng talata, pero taliwas ang interpretasyon niya sa kanilang lahat.

Tanong: Sino ang mas paniniwalaan mo?

Maybe its about time that a reversal of place happens with EVM giving gifts to his KAPATIDS in the faith instead of them always pledging and promising to make him happy, obey and never complain, be one with him and so on and so forth.

Here are some practical tips he can do to help ease the burdens of his KAPATIDS in the faith and guaranteed that they will love him more.

Use economy of scale by initially funding it with church funds by buying basic and high demand necessities such as rice, sugar, milk, coffee, soap, cooking oil, condiments etc..... in bulk directly from sources which will give INC price leverage that will allow them to buy it at a much lower cost then sell it at a cost to their KAPATIDS that will only mark up expenses related to achieving break even operation. The funds initially used will be recovered after selling and can be used over and over again.

The absence of middlemen, retailing by merchants and profit driven motive will have an INCredible effect on the price of such commodities and priority will be always given to their KAPATIDS in the lower strata of the INCome bracket. Naturally, measures must also be implemented so that it cannot be taken advantage of by limiting purchase based on needs. Those with businesses related to these may ride too to further INCrease the price leverage by adding to the bulk order if all other logistics and business considerations will make it advantageous and profitable but the needs of the ordinary KAPATIDS must be the one should be met first.

Imagine how his KAPATIDS in the faith will reciprocate in kind by INCreasing their offerings without even having to be preempted and be be reminded with the ABUNDANT/BOUNTIFUL WHATCHAMACALLIT circular being read regularly (and INCreasing in frequency too) given his magnanimity, care, concern and love made manifest by such a gallant and bold move on his part as a leader.

But if he is still very stingy having the fund stuck up and tied up as a revolving allocation and is hell bent about recovering church funds, the alternative is to sell these items to his KAPATIDS with some profits to slowly recover the initial church fund outlay but would still guarantee that his KAPATIDS will be able to buy these things at much lower prices compared to prevailing retail prices.

He may also copy the SABBATH YEAR or the JUBILEE YEAR practice of the Israelites (resting the land from farming for a specified period of time instead of continuous use throughout to give the land a time to recover) and apply it to some of the offerings given by his KAPATIDS.

Will continually update this if I can come up with more ideas. You can contribute too by sharing your thoughts on what INCredible gift you have for EVM's INComing birthday.

As the title suggested, it's gonna be a video streaming worship this coming weeked. It's so annoying and I hate it. It's such a big waste of time and I dount anyone even listens to that shit. I know I don't lol. Umaaaaaay my god. It always creates this feeling of dread and i hate it. Norma ws is already dreadful enough as it is.

Huling samba ko na noong last na Banal na Hapunan. Prior to that, lagi naman na akong nasa MS. Due to being in college, at hindi ako nagpa-transfer, hindi na rin ako nakakadalo. Initially the plan was to transfer out then abandon going to service altogether but I was too busy with moving and coursework kaya hindi ko na na-process. Honestly, hindi na ako masyadong kinakabahan dahil kayang-kaya ko naman silang iwasan dahil may dorm ako a few hours away from home. Also, my brother have done the trick of transferring out and as far as we both know, tiwalag na siya. Ako lang ang pinagsabihan niya nito. He's employed now so I doubt na kaya nilang pastulin pa si kuya into submission. But I'm still a freshman and my parents, beyond their obsession with this religion, are still really great parents. I'm also close with my family and I'm scared how this will turn out dahil gusto ni nanay na ayusin namin ang pagsamba so we can get out of the MS line-up. Kahit pilit kong lumayo sa lahat ng gusto nila, I hate that these worries still live in the back of my head. Ba't ba kasi ako naging handog, tangina.

Matthew 22:17-22
People asked Jesus who they should give money to.
Jesus asked "whose face do you see on the money?"
They said Caesar.
Jesus replies, give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, give to God what belongs to God.

This verse has convinced me that we must all give our money to the Manalo, according to this verse.
If you doubt me. read the verse again and you will realize.

Reply below when you figure it out