r/exIglesiaNiCristo

Napansin nyo din ba? Puro Malas at palpak nangyayari sa INCult, yung Rally nila laging nababasa ng ULAN, hindi nakikisama ang langit, panahon sa kanila. Tapos na kulong pa si Marcoleta, wala nagawa Rally nila. Tapos tinatawag na sila na "kulto" ng mga tao, lalu sila mahihirapan makapag akay niyan.

Bukod doon yung pino-protektahan nilang si Vice president ay tuluyang ginigisa sa impeachment, wala din nagawa Rally nila para pigilan ang impeachment.

Tapos nag tre-trending pa ulit sa socmed yung old video ng corruption scandal ng INCult nung 2015, dahil sa rally nila sa EDSA, binalikan ng mga tao yung corruption scandal ng INCult.

Feeling ko malapit na tuluyang mahayag ang corruption at mga illegal na ginagawa ng INCult, Parang yung mismong tadhana o panahon ang nag papabagsak sa INCult. Hindi na gumagana yung rally nila.

Hello everyone, according sa mga OWE ko na magulang, may rally nanaman daw and maybe ito na yung Big One, lahat ng hindi daw pupunta need daw magbigay ng pera or food sa mga pupunta maybe this week? or next week probably before anniversary . Any info regarding dito na may narinig din kayo? how was the message relayed? mas pwersa ba sainyo ?

i need to get this off my chest.

sobrang nagsusuffer yung choir namin kasi late dumating lahat ng awit. imagine, nakakailang extra practice pa lang kami pre-final na agad namin kahapon.

dama ko yung pain sa boses ng pangulo namin kasi kahit nung pinakikinggan ko awit namin sobrang pangit. we could’ve done better kung naibigay lang sana nang mas maaga yung mga awit.

sa sobrang dawit ng INC sa pulitika, napabayaan na ang mga ganitong bagay. bakit nga ba kasi tayo namumulitika in the first place? hindi tayo uusigin ng sanlibutan kung nanatili tayong walang pakialam sa politika.

sobrang frustrating. ang hirap nang dumama sa pagsamba dahil sa politikang yan. imbes na ipanalangin sa pagsamba yung mga pagsubok sa buhay, ang ipinapanalangin ay yung politikang yan.

Based after Nakita ko sa Canadian documentary, bakit nag iiwas po si Eduardo ng interviews, presscons and public hearings?

It's like ang awkward na when I saw, bawal mag flim, bawal daw tanongin or bawal daw sya kausapin kapag tanongin lang a few questions or accomodate ng interview?

Is there something na May tinatago sila? Or ayaw lang talaga?.

Wanted to rant about my girlfriend lang and ask about this relationship rule in INC. I just hate INC's rules about not allowing couples of other religions to be in relationship with each other or married with each other. What's the point of this? like shouldn't you be more inclined as a church to let your members be in a relationship or be married with someone out of your religion to gather the lost sheep? They're treating outer-religion marriage as if it was the end of the world and you'll immediately get sent hell to it. I mean if you have a god who prohibits you from loving someone outside sa religion mo, wouldn't it be evil in the first place? They've always been taught that their god is good, but I don't think this is an act of kindness, its an act of exclusivity. "Love your enemies as you love yourself" is the ultimate definition of love, It is so genuinely convenient to love your family and friends, but it becomes harder to love your enemies. I mean at this point I'm not even her enemy, ibang relihiyon lang talaga but still you get the point. Their point of not being able to marry or love someone outside sa religion doesn't really add up kasi once again if you love just because he or she is in your inner circle, that doesn't mean its really love na diba? That's just love out of convenience.

So can any ex iglesia ni cristo members PLEASE tell me why they believe this and PLEASE do not tell me just because its in the doctrines. I am a catholic but even our catholic priests push us to understand everything by context with the help of the Holy Spirit and not say the "its because its in the doctrines" card.

So yan lang question ko. genuine question lang. I am so sorry for venting out this bad, I'm so in love with my girlfriend and I really want to marry her pero I believe this CULT is stopping us from progressing us further and I'm forever blaming this cult of an institution for their actions I hope they get what they deserve.

Siguro after a week of posting this. Tiwalag na ko. Nasa Distrito na kasi ang ulat ko as of now. Mahaba po ang kwento na ito. To make it more detailed at gusto kong ma-document through sharing here kung ano mangyayari sa 'kin at baka maging eye-opener din 'to sa iba.

Nagsimula ito nung nagkaroon ng surprise rally ang INC last June 30, 2026. Hindi ako sumama dyan dahil alam ko ang stand ko. Nag-start din akong mag-post ng against kay Marcoleta dahil hindi maatim ng puso ko na sinusuportahan ito ng relihiyon ko bagama't personal na laban naman nya ito. To make it short, nagpo-post ako ng mga facts sa FB about kay Marcoleta, kung bakit sya makakasuhan ng plunder, bribery, at perjury.

July 1. Nag-decide na ko na hindi na muna ako sasamba. Sinabi ko sa Mama ko, magpapahinga lang ako. Nung una akala nya sa ibang oras lang ako sasamba pero sabi ko ayoko muna sumamba. Nagkaroon pa nga kami ng palitan ng argumento ng Kuya ko. Ang punto nya, kung hindi ako sasamba, mawawalan na ako ng koneksyon sa Diyos. Pinaliwanag ko naman na ang akin lang ay dapat hiwalay ang relihiyon sa pulitika. Anong nangyayari sa INC? Bakit tayo nagra-rally at sumisigaw ng wag ikulong si Marcoleta? Dapat tanggapin lang nya for accountability dahil hindi sya naging transparent sa campaign donations na natanggap nya.

July 2. Rally sa Liwasang Bonifacio. Kahit ang daming aberya sa nangyari sa unang rally, tinuloy pa rin nila. Nag-aya pa nga yung mga kaibigan kong INC na sumama, ang ending nag-leave ako sa GC. Ayoko. Walang pasok sa Maynila kaya napagdesisyunan kong magpagawa muna ng laptop. 3:18 PM, nag-chat mama ko na may ulat daw ako sabi ng katiwala namin. Nabasa raw ang mga post ko. Paglaban daw sa pamamahala yun. Mabilis daw itong makakarating kay Ka Eduardo. Pangalawang ulat ko na ito, actually pero sa kabadingan ko naman yun. Bumalik na naman yung pananakot nila sa akin na hindi raw magbabayad kuya ko sa utang nya sa akin kung matitiwalag ako. Sabi ko naman kay Mama, utang ay utang. Labas ito rito. Magkakademandahan kami kung ganyan. Nakakahiya raw ako, sabi ni Mama. Papa ko raw masamang-masama ang loob. Hanggang sa umabot na sa gusto ni mama na umalis ako sa bahay kung matitiwalag ako. Sabi ko na lang, mag-uusap kami pagkauwi ko. Kami lang ng magulang ko at wala sina Kuya. Grabe yung anxiety at stress na naramdaman ko to the point na umiiyak ako sa harapan ng kaibigan ko habang kinukwento ko ito sa kanya. Bumalik yung kinukwestyon ko yung kabaklaan ko, na hindi ako lubos na tanggap ng pamilya ko at ng relihiyon ako. Pero desidido na talaga ako umalis. Dahil ayoko na. Ang sabi ko nga sa kanya, ang relihiyon na ito ay para lang sa mga straight.

Pagkauwi ko, naging mahinahon at maayos naman ang pag-uusap namin ng magulang ko. Ang banggit pala ng katiwala namin, sinabihan ko raw ng bobo ang INC. Wala naman akong pino-post na ganun, sabi ko. Pinakita ko lahat ng post ko sa Mama ko. More on educational purposes kung bakit kakasuhan si Marcoleta. Nasabihan pa nga raw ang magulang ko na, hindi raw ba ako nasasabihan or parang wala na bang power ang magulang ko sa akin? Na-off si Papa doon.

Pinapunta ni Mama yung katiwala namin sa bahay para magkaliwanagan. Lumalabas na sya pala mismo ang gumawa ng ulat. Parang naka-follow pa nga yata sya sa akin kaya nakikita nya post ko. Ang siste paglaban daw sa pamamahala yung ginagawa ko dahil parang nasa kabilang panig daw ako. Sabi ko, paano naging paglaban yun kung nagpapaliwanag lang naman ako kung bakit makakasuhan si Marcoleta? Ibig pala sabihin bawal tayo mag-educate. Meron pa syang pinakita sa akin na comment ko sa sarili kong post. Ito ang sabi ko roon, "Hindi ko ine-expect na gagamitin ko ang page na ito para lang ipaliwanag ito. Ang dami na kasing 8080 sa totoo lang at hindi na alam kung ano ang pinaglalaban nila." Ang pakiwari nya, sinasabihan ko ng bobo ang INC. Wala naman akong sinasabi na ganun. In general ang pagkakasabi ko. Pinapupunta nila ako sa pastor pero umayaw na ko dahil ayoko na rin naman na maging INC. Ano pa ang saysay ng pakikipag-usap?

Dito ko napatunayan na kapag INC ka kailangan sunod ka lang nang sunod. Tau-tauhan ka. Kahit alam mong may katwiran ka ngunit taliwas sa sinusuportahan nila, mabuting tumahimik ka na lang kung ayaw mong matiwalag kasi paglaban yun sa pamamahala. Ginagawa nilang pipi ang mga kapatid. Maging kalayaan sa pagsalita, tinatanggal nila.

Bakit ba kasi pumayag sila na patakbuhin si Marcoleta kahit na bawal maging pulitiko ang isang kapatid? Iniiwasan nga magkaroon ng pagkabaha-bahagi dahil sa pulitika eh. Saka hindi ko talaga lubos maunawaan na kung ang ipinaglalaban ng INC ay transparency at accountability, bakit may pinapanigan sila? Dapat wala. Dapat hindi nila isinisigaw na wag ipakulong si Marcoleta. Lalo pang nakakatawa, may nagsalita ring mga pulitiko sa rally na hindi ko rin kayang suportahan. Kaya kung INC ka pa ngayon, mag-isip-isip ka na. Dapat sa Diyos lang tayo maglilingkod. Paglilingkod lang dapat. Wala dapat halong pulitika. Maganda pa noong panahon ni Ka Erdy. Ano na nangyari sa pamamahala ni Ka Eduardo?

Totoo ba na may malakihang rally ulit? O yung tinatawag nilang “big one” raw? Ang lala di pa natatapos rally? Tapos wala na naman si EVM. Perwisyo talaga kayo sa tao e no. Nakakaawa mga tao. Isa pa may sabi sabi na gagawa raw ng paraaan si Evil Man para makalaya si Marcoleta hmmmm possible kasi siya naman ang dahilan kaya siya nasa pulitika HAHAHHAHA sana all baliw

I heard na nagbibigay na sila ng papel para ilagay yung list of names na sasama sa incoming rally nila. Tapos ang need/inaachive is 100 participants per purok. Mind you, majority ng purok samin hindi umaabot sa 100 na katao. Na para bang sinasabi nila na lahat ay dapat umattend?? Lol

Additional info, tinawag na ang mga scan kahapon nang madaling araw. I'm not sure why, pero baka naghahanda na sila sa "the big one". Be careful out there sa mga napilitan/mapipilitan sumama sa rally. Always be observant.

Last year was the first time that I was able to seriously explain to friends whether or not inc is a cult. please note that these are my and my husband's personal experiences going through indoctrination and being baptised and being in the church for 30 years. PIMO now. one of my daughters did not get baptised. the other one agreed just so my mom doesn't get sadder.

my contention is that

All organized religion started off as a cult right? even the catholic church. so what's the line where the cult becomes a religion? Is it passage of time? number of members? which makes it difficult to define this way

I believe that we were really a religion. In the old days, lessons really concentrated on how one becomes a good Christian. What do you do, according to biblical teaching, so you become or stay a good person, to live a good life, to worship God, etc.

Husband and I were talking that during the time of Ka Erano, lessons about abuloy (monetary donations) was usually 4x-6x a year. Maybe two weeks before holy supper and thanksgiving. It became soooo often after evm took over. geez

Pagtitiwalag (excommunication) was just removal. There wasn’t any shunning. That just started with evm when he kicked his mother out for calling out against corruption in the church.

We were encouraged to ASK QUESTIONS!!! Swear, when we were being indoctrinated, we were encouraged to ask questions. If we wanted to contradict something, we could. And we could really pick apart each lesson and they (ministers) will answer you.

I remember asking about the obedience thing. The answer was always to obey God. Do not obey a building; do not obey people; obey God. My minister said, don’t follow us, we’re just bible readers, you still follow God.

There have been a lot of principles and teachings that have never sat well with me. But I never felt ostracized. The ministers welcomed you to keep asking, to keep questioning. You can go to any minister’s house and they will explain using the bible and if you still don’t like it, there was no judgement. They will pray for clarity and for understanding, but I have never felt judged or labeled as wrong. All I ever experienced from the older ministers was understanding. I have always wanted to be that kind of Christian, strong in my beliefs, but also open and loving to others who did not believe like me.

Since evm took over, my interpretation is that the church devolved into a cult. From being a religion that really pushed forward being a loving Christian, it became an intolerant church led by a despot. If you google the definition ng cult – fits the current inc perfectly.

I'm pissed off rn. So we had this monthly meeting at 8 PM for all the members with a duty for the upcoming Thanksgiving. And boi, the actual reminders/instructions only took 2 to 4 minutes max, but that wasn't even the end of the meeting. They just had to add a bunch of useless shit. A video instruction on how to handle and control your online presence (talking about promoting INC and whatever), a Bible verse, and more talking. One I didn't even listen to at that point.

The reason I was pissed off is that it was obvious it was gonna rain, and not just a light rain. While that worker was chattering after the instructions, the sky was already thundering, and heavy rain was pouring. They didn't even hurry it up. He was speaking so fucking slowly that it was obvious he didn't have to worry about the commute back home because, of course, he has his own transportation. And he even made the fucking prayer long as fuck.

Like, hello? It's already 9 PM, it's pouring, and you don't even care about the hundreds of people in that locale? People from different locales too, keep in mind. Some of them are Binhi who still have to commute home in that weather. It's like they're so self-centered and insensitive as fuck.

Panahon pa ito ni EGM na sinabi. Pinagmamalaki pa nung ministro noon na sinabi ito sa pagsamba:

“Hindi kayo kailangan ng Iglesia, kayo ang nangangailangan sa Iglesia.”

“Hindi ang pamamahala ang makikisama sa atin kundi tayo ang makikisama sa pamamahala!!!”

Hindi naman pala tayo kailangan ay bakit uudyukan pa nila ang mga miyembro na itakwil ang pamilya para matakot umalis at tatakutin ng mga sumpa at parusa ng dios.