
u/witheredbonnielover

Anyone down to make a discord server for this subreddit?
Would be cool to talk to ppl on discord instead of reddit all the time
u/TheOrangeGuy09
What does "I won't let the same happen to you" mean?
"Something went very wrong, that's why i'm here. But i wont let the same happen to you. I will put you back together"
In FNAF World, the Final Speaker tells BV that something bad happened to them - something which caused them to end up in whatever spirit realm World is happening in ("that's why i'm here"). However, right after that, Final Speaker clearly says that they will not let whatever happened to them happen to BV ("BUT I won't let the same happen to you", implying whatever fate Final Speaker is trying to save BV from is a fate that Final Speaker has been damned with)
Seeing that the most popular opinion here is that the Final Speaker is Charlotte, the "Something went very wrong" would have been her death and how she ended up there. And she's not going to let what happened to her happen to BV.
So what's the GoldenVictim take on this line? Because this to me has seemed like a very strong indication that BV wouldn't end up haunting an animatronic/becoming a spirit. The other takes on this I've seen is that "its meta" but ehhh
(The line also kinda disproves BVFirst because it clearly tells us something bad happened before the Bite of 83)
What is going to happen to BV haters if they say he's just a plot device for Mike and only exists as an explanation for the FNAF3 minigames (this is only the beginning)
What if GGGL represents the Puppet breaking the kids from Afton's control?
In both the Novels and Movies, where the MCI kids are shown to be controlled by Afton, Puppet is not with the MCI kids - as in the Novels the Marionette doesn't exist and in the Movies Charlotte dies in a different location.
So what if GGGL is meant to be the Puppet taking the children under her wing, and the gifts represent freedom from Afton's influence?
Whats everyones take on Happiest Day, how it happens, and when it happens?
Hello.
I am thinking about writing a post about Happiest Day, but I wanted to ask around and see what everyones position on HD is.
Before SL and FFPS, the easiest answer would be that Happiest Day happened during FNAF3, and they were freed via the minigames by BV or Charlie or whoever you think is the player in those minigames. However, with MoltenMCI and UCN, theres some doubt to how Happiest Day happens now. Somethings I wanted to ask were:
- When do you think Happiest Day happens? After FFPS? UCN? or maybe it hasn't happened yet and the MCI and Charlotte are still not free
- Would Happiest Day still happen by accessing the minigames? because the only time we can play the minigames is during FNAF3. So if HD doesn't happen during 3 anymore, do you think it happens completely differently than how it originally played out?
- When does FNAF World, where Glitchbear tasks BV to find the pieces, happen? The most sensical explanation would be after the MCI as these are the pieces needed to free the kids, but the MCI kids die 2 years after BV does. And if World happened after the MCI why did Glitchbear wait 2 years to help BV? Plus the intro to World is very similar to FNAF4's ending (set in a black space, the Final Speaker and BV are together, Final Speaker promises to put BV back together) so it also seems like World continues right after FNAF4's ending
How "FNAF2 movie mischaracterized Charlotte" mfs swear she was moving in the games despite trying to kill Jeremy and Fritz numerous times
CryingPuppet and BV x Cassidy shippers when its revealed that BV is actually Sammy Emily who was born when Henry and Mrs. Afton had an affair but also Cassidy is William and Mrs. Afton's daughter so BV is Charlotte's brother and Cassidy's half-brother
Crying Child under MemoryVictim/DestinyVictim/GodVictim/WhateverVictim being able to alter reality with his own tears and agony
Elizabeth under MikeVictim + ElizaSpeaker always reviving her brother when he's about to die
Thinking about ElizaSpeaker
It has never not bothered me that Baby's first ever appearance depicts her with two Yellow Eyes - similar to the Yellow Eyed Speaker that talks to the Bite Victim in FNAF World's intro
It also doesn't help that these two are literally in the same game. The same game depicts Baby and the Final Speaker very identically.
The connections don't really stop there. One of the teasers for Scrap Baby in FFPS is labelled "iamstillhere" (although the same happens with Springtrap's teaser in FNAF3, so the argument could go either way)
Not to mention the Pigtail Girl (who greatly resembles Circus Baby) having the same text color as the final speaker. Sure, Laughing Kid and Plushtrap Kid have the same text color too but you could brush that off as an error due to their scenes being close to each other. Whereas Pigtail Girl's scene and the Final Speaker scene are more spread apart - yet the same hex code is used.
Baby and Fredbear also share many similarities with each other. In Sister Location, Baby makes the same pose as Golden Freddy. Baby's stomach claw also resembles Nightmare Fredbear - who calls back to the Final Speaker's lines in UCN.
The only thing that i cant quite answer is why Elizabeth would help set BV set up Happiest Day, especially when she goes to being Afton's servant in FFPS.
The best answer I can think of maybe is that by the time of World, Elizabeth would've retained most of her identity and thus want to help her brother. But by FFPS her identity could've been corrupted by the Baby AI and thus serving him as Scrap Baby.
I dunno what do you guys think?
What was everyone's opinion on Spider-Man (2025)?
BV and William under ShadowVictim + ShadowAlly
Where was TOYSNHK during FNAF3?
"He tried to release you. He tried to release us. But I'm not gonna let that happen. I will hold you here. I will keep you here. No matter how many times they burn us."
This line from TOYSNHK implies FFPS wasn't the only time TOYSNHK and Afton were burned. The only other time they could've been burned was in FNAF3, when Fazbears Fright burned down. So this begs the question of where TOYSNHK was then? Because Molten Freddy wasn't in Fazbears Fright.
I've believed that there's a chance Golden Freddy/TOYSNHK could've attached himself to Afton after Follow Me, but then how would GF be in Molten Freddy? If Candy Cadet's "5 into 1" stories mean anything, Golden Freddy also has to be a part of Molten Freddy. So how could he have been burned before FFPS?
Could Midnight Motorist imply CassidyVictim?
Midnight Motorist, Fruity Maze, and Security Puppet are three minigames you need to unlock the Gravestone Ending, which includes the graves of the MCI + Charlotte. Its clear theres a connection between the children in the minigames and the graves:
Fruity Maze: Susie is lured and killed by Afton
Security Puppet: Charlotte is locked out by bullies and killed by Afton
so how does Midnight Motorist include an Afton victim? FLAF basically confirms Orange Guy is William Afton, and that's he's driving away from a murder.
Here's my two options:
- The footprints belong to an MCI kid haunting an animatronic. Most likely Golden Freddy/Cassidy (as her own person) under BVRunaway as BV and Cassidy are shown to have some connection in the Logbook. This would either imply MCI83 or BVSurvival as BV would be alive by the time of the MCI. Or you could say Michael is the runaway but that begs the question as to why Cassidy or whichever MCI victim is trying to lure Michael - or what other connection Michael would have with the MCI victims.
or
- The Bite Victim is one of those graves as Cassidy. Midnight Motorist is telling us a story about the (only) child in Golden Freddy, who is none other than the Bite Victim himself.
What do you guys think?
Personal Ranking of Midnight Motorist Theories (might have some hot takes)
Potential Evidence for Bite Victim being TOYSNHK in UCN
Something that always nagged me about the Old Friends challenge is why Golden Freddy (im assuming this is GF's perspective, as it wouldn't make sense for this to be Afton's old friends when Afton himself is included as Springtrap) considers Baby as an "old friend". You got:
Classics + Toys + Puppet: All of them are dead kids and GF was in Freddy's with them
Springtrap: William himself did something to Golden Freddy that led to UCN
Phone Guy: Golden Freddy's victim
But where does Baby come into this then? If its just Cassidy as a random victim what connection does she have with Elizabeth? It wouldnt make much sense for GF to consider Elizabeth an "old friend" unless they knew each other as siblings.
I think Elizabeth being here is meant to tie GF to the Afton Family, and potentially imply BV is the one behind UCN