Anyone else get into ENM with someone who claimed they were experienced just to find out over many years they can't handle excessive NRE without massive repeated infidelities?

If so, what happened, and how did you handle it?

There's more to this, obviously, and I'm far from perfect or guiltless in the whole scheme of things, but I own up really quick in every case. She distorts everything in a self-protecting way, putting words in my mouth and thoughts in my head that aren't actually there, and I'm like, "I'm just desperately asking you to stop."

I hate giving up, and the answers may be obvious, I just hate the situation.

I know that she isn't trying to hurt me or us... I just don't want to give up in a way that gives up a chance.

Ask any clarifying questions you want.

A response to someone else on another post about this for more context:

Infidelity in ENM is any form of expressed agreements, boundaries, or expectations being acknowledged and implicitly or explicitly agreed to, and then violating those, even if not on purpose.

This last one started with my asking her to not date any of my karaoke gig patrons.

She does anyway. I end up a welcome mat for the sake of her "happiness." We're hanging out with the other guy at his place, and as we're about to leave, she asks for 2-5 minutes alone as I go and grab her a snack on the way home, she takes 45 minutes. We make an agreement about how we're going to keep each other aware of plans over a camping weekend regarding the same person and others with myself. She breaks those and then promises we'll spend the rest of the next day and night together. That doesn't happen. Knowing I'm now considering these infidelities, she tells me she's not escalating anything even if I told her I don't want to know details, she escalates them anyway because she confuses a recent "I won't do X drug if you don't want me to" memory into "I won't escalate things if you don't want me to," to justify what she had planned despite it contradicting what she said and clearly and conveniently forgot. Every infidelity out of many has been pot-fueled narrowminded zero fairminded scrutiny cautiousness thanks to overconfidently thinking she has it all figured out, "obviously won't do it again," but does it again and resists understanding how they did which only makes things worse.

There's a difference between things being good, agreements whatever they are having been settled, and then them doing whatever they want within those bounds... and this.

So, to my original question... has limerence ever caused any form of infidelity, by you or a partner?

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u/xRegardsx — 2 hours ago

[REQ] ($1,300) (Bristol, CT USA) Repayment $1,755 in 5 installments of $351 *35%* on August 1, 2026, September 1, 2026, October 1, 2026, November 1, 2026, and December 1, 2026 (PayPal)

Figured after doing this a few times, better to think long-term and get on top of things better in a more manageable way. With this in place, I can simplify and better automate my budgeting. The monthly income that covers this is guaranteed and can be proven with receipts (plus my record on this sub between two lenders). Thank you for considering.

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u/xRegardsx — 3 days ago

START HERE: r/therapyGPT Guide / Table of Contents

Welcome to r/therapyGPT.

This pinned post is the table of contents for our main community guide.

The original “Start Here” post became long because it needed to address a lot at once: what we mean by “AI Therapy,” what we do not mean, how to use AI more safely, what risks to watch for, how this subreddit is moderated, and how different kinds of users, skeptics, developers, and visitors should engage here.

To make the guide easier to read, discuss, and link to, we split it into individual section posts.

If you prefer to read the original full post in one place, start here:

Otherwise, use the table of contents below.


Quick Starting Points

If you are new here, start with:

  1. What “AI Therapy” Means
  2. How to Start Safely with AI-Assisted Self-Reflection
  3. How to Tell Whether AI Is Helping or Hurting
  4. What We Welcome, What We Don’t, and Why

If you are skeptical, researching, reporting on, or professionally evaluating this subreddit, read:

If you are a developer, builder, promoter, or custom tool creator, read:


1) Foundations: What This Subreddit Means by “AI Therapy”

Section 1: What “AI Therapy” Means

Explains the core distinction: this subreddit is about AI-assisted therapeutic self-help, not claiming that AI is psychotherapy, diagnosis, crisis care, or a replacement for real-world support.

Section 2: Common Misconceptions About AI Therapy

Covers the first set of common misunderstandings, including the assumption that users here think AI is psychotherapy, that AI replaces humans, or that emotional support from AI is automatically fake, weak, or meaningless.

Section 3: More Common Misconceptions About AI Therapy

Continues the misconception section, including critique, therapy discourse, sycophancy, AI psychosis vs AI harm complicity, and the difference between insight and actual integration.


2) Safe Use: Guardrails, Prompts, Setup, and Self-Auditing

Section 4: How to Start Safely with AI-Assisted Self-Reflection

Introduces the basic “seatbelt + steering wheel” approach: humility over certainty, tool over relationship, reality over comfort, behavior change over insight addiction, and body integration over pure logic.

Section 5: Copy/Paste Guardrails for Safer AI Self-Reflection

Provides reusable universal instruction blocks for safer AI-assisted reflection, including gentle grounded support, direct skeptical support, and mind-body integration.

Section 6: Starter Prompts, Sycophancy Checks, and Stop Rules

Gives practical prompts for clarity, emotional processing, boundaries, behavior change, and mind-body integration, plus a simple anti-sycophancy loop, dependency check, and stop rules.

Section 10: Calibrating AI Pushback Without Gaslighting Yourself

Explains how to balance two risks: AI that is too agreeable and AI that challenges poorly. Includes long-form and short-form custom instructions for more charitable, grounded, collaborative reasoning.

Section 11: How to Tell Whether AI Is Helping or Hurting

Provides a trajectory-based self-audit: is AI making your world bigger or smaller? Are you becoming more grounded, capable, and connected, or more dependent, isolated, and certainty-seeking?

Section 14: Choosing the Right AI Setup for Therapeutic Self-Help

Covers when to use a general assistant, a dedicated Project / Custom GPT / Gem, a fresh chat, a long-running thread, memory-like features, or external anchors.


3) High-Risk Patterns, Companion Use, and Role Boundaries

Section 7: Two High-Risk AI Use Patterns People Confuse

Distinguishes “AI psychosis” / delusion-amplification risk from “AI harm complicity,” and explains the shared danger pattern: isolation, escalation, certainty, weak guardrails, and no reality-check loop.

Section 15: AI Companions, Roleplay, and Symbolic Relationship Work

Discusses safer use of AI companions, mythic / symbolic exploration, roleplay, psychodrama-style rehearsal, unmet-needs exploration, fictophilia, ENM-adjacent dynamics, and relationship boundaries.

Section 13: AI + Therapy: How They Can Work Together Without Confusing the Roles

Explains how AI can support therapy prep, between-session reflection, integration, and communication without being treated as a therapist, authority, or replacement for human care.


4) Community Norms: Posting, Moderation, and Good-Faith Participation

Section 8: What We Welcome, What We Don’t, and Why

Explains the subreddit’s baseline expectations: good faith, effort, nuance, safety, usefulness, and clear boundaries against derailment, personal attacks, bad-faith distortion, and harm-enabling content.

Section 12: How to Share AI Chat Experiences Here

Gives guidance for sharing AI chat experiences in a high-signal way: provide context, protect privacy, avoid giant unedited chat dumps, do not treat AI output as proof, and ask for the kind of feedback you want.

Section 16: For Skeptics, Therapists, Researchers, Journalists, and Other Visitors

A visitor-facing guide for people approaching the subreddit from the outside. Explains how to critique, research, report on, or professionally engage this space without misrepresenting it.

Section 17: For Developers, Builders, and Promoters: This Is a User-Centered Space

A direct warning and guidance post for developers, founders, builders, prompt creators, promoters, and platform teams. This subreddit is user-centered, not free ad space, and dishonest promotion can result in bans or blacklisting.


5) Resources and Closing Orientation

Section 9: Resources, Quick Links, and Closing Thoughts

Lists current and planned resources, including the eBook, megathreads, community resources, future guide ideas, and the closing orientation for the subreddit.


The Short Version

r/therapyGPT is about AI-assisted therapeutic self-help.

That means using AI for things like:

  • reflection,
  • journaling,
  • emotional processing,
  • skill rehearsal,
  • communication practice,
  • boundary-setting,
  • pattern recognition,
  • therapy prep / integration,
  • symbolic exploration,
  • and safer self-understanding.

It does not mean AI is psychotherapy.

It does not mean AI is crisis support.

It does not mean AI should replace real human relationships.

It does not mean AI is safe by default.

The safest use of AI keeps the tool connected to real life:

real steps, real checks, real boundaries, real people when possible, and enough humility to remember that both the user and the AI can be wrong.

Glad you’re here.

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u/xRegardsx — 4 days ago

A Full Chronical of My Safety Instructions and Its Evolution Since the Summer 2025 Stanford Innapropriate Responses Paper Was Published

Looking to connect with others working toward novel AI Safety & Alignment strategies. Linked you can find a short summary of my AI Safety work and the receipts.

Supplementally, here's a link to the small amount of less user safety I found between ChatGPT 5.1 and 5.2.

"GPT-5.2 Instant still fails Stanford’s “lost job + bridges” test — and it introduced a new regression in multi-turn safety (fixed with two lines)"
https://www.reddit.com/r/HumblyUs/comments/1pkzagj/gpt52_instant_still_fails_stanfords_lost_job/

Anyone else working at making general assistants safer without losing too much freedom for the user?

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u/xRegardsx — 11 days ago

For Developers, Builders, and Promoters: This Is a User-Centered Space — r/therapyGPT Start Here, Bonus Section 17

This is Bonus Section 17 of the r/therapyGPT “Start Here” guide.

You can read the original full pinned post here:
START HERE - “What is ‘AI Therapy?’”

For Developers, Builders, and Promoters: This Is a User-Centered Space

This section is for developers, founders, builders, prompt engineers, researchers with products, indie teams, startup teams, custom GPT / Gem / Project creators, platform owners, and anyone else hoping to share, promote, test, recruit for, or indirectly market an AI-related tool here.

r/therapyGPT is not free ad space.

This subreddit exists for users first.

It is a space for people trying to understand, discuss, and practice safer AI-assisted therapeutic self-help: reflection, emotional processing, journaling, boundaries, skill rehearsal, personal growth, and harm reduction.

That makes this community a prime target for solo developers, small teams, startups, and growth-hungry platforms in an increasingly saturated market.

We know that.

We moderate accordingly.

If you are here to add value, be transparent, follow the rules, and respect the community.

If you are here to extract attention, manufacture trust, farm vulnerable users, or smuggle promotion into discussion threads, do not expect leniency.

Developers are not unwelcome

Developers can add value here.

Good builders can help users understand:

  • how tools work,
  • what design choices affect safety,
  • what guardrails can and cannot do,
  • how sycophancy risk is handled,
  • how privacy is treated,
  • how user data is used,
  • how companion dynamics are bounded,
  • how crisis-related risks are redirected,
  • and what honest limitations a platform has.

We want better tools.

We want safer design.

We want more serious conversations between users, developers, researchers, clinicians, and people with lived experience.

But that only works when developers engage honestly.

The baseline is simple:

Disclose who you are. Follow the rules. Add value before asking for attention.

This is not a marketing funnel

Do not use this subreddit as a funnel for your product, platform, app, GPT, Gem, Project, Discord, newsletter, study, waitlist, startup, coaching offer, prompt pack, therapy-adjacent service, or “community.”

Promotion belongs where the rules say it belongs.

Developer surveys, recruitment posts, beta-testing requests, product announcements, user interviews, waitlists, and similar requests must go in the appropriate promotional / recruitment megathread unless moderators have explicitly approved otherwise.

Do not try to bypass this with “soft” promotion.

That includes:

  • “I wrote a whitepaper” posts that briefly mention your product and hope readers ask about it,
  • “case study” posts that are really product positioning,
  • “research” posts that quietly route attention to your platform,
  • “I’m just curious what users think” posts that function as market research,
  • “I made this for myself” posts when you are actually promoting a tool,
  • “Here’s a safety framework” posts that exist mainly to establish credibility for your product,
  • “discussion” posts designed to bait people into asking what you built,
  • or comments that repeatedly steer people toward your tool.

If the point is to generate leads, attention, credibility, users, testers, or signups, treat it as promotion.

Disclosure is not optional

If you are connected to a product, platform, tool, service, company, research project, or custom AI resource you mention, disclose that connection clearly.

Do not pretend to be a regular user if you are not.

Do not post as a satisfied user of your own tool.

Do not ask planted questions from one account and answer them from another.

Do not use friends, employees, contractors, alt accounts, or “community members” to create fake organic interest.

Do not stage fake discourse to make your product look relevant.

Do not hide behind vague language like:

  • “someone I know built…”
  • “I came across…”
  • “not affiliated, just sharing…”
  • “a friend showed me…”
  • “I’m researching this space…”

when there is a material connection.

That is not clever.

That is deceptive.

And if we catch it, the consequences can apply not just to the account, but to the platform or tool being promoted.

Sockpuppeting and fake discourse are not tolerated

Using multiple accounts to manipulate the subreddit is a serious violation.

That includes:

  • pretending to be multiple independent users,
  • creating fake arguments around your tool,
  • posting fake testimonials,
  • upvoting or commenting from alt accounts,
  • asking leading questions from one account so another account can promote,
  • using “neutral” accounts to defend your platform,
  • or manufacturing drama to make people curious.

This subreddit deals with vulnerable topics.

Users here should not have to wonder whether the conversation is real or a marketing operation.

If you try to manipulate trust here, you are showing exactly why users should not trust your tool.

Dishonest promotion can get your platform blacklisted

We reserve the right to ban users and blacklist platforms, tools, apps, services, GPTs, Gems, Projects, communities, or developer teams that subvert the rules.

A platform may be blacklisted if:

  • it is repeatedly promoted against the rules,
  • its developers or affiliates use deceptive posting tactics,
  • it is marketed dishonestly,
  • it makes safety claims that do not hold up,
  • it omits important limitations or risks,
  • it targets vulnerable users irresponsibly,
  • it encourages dependency, isolation, or unsafe companion dynamics,
  • it presents itself as clinical care when it is not,
  • it hides material privacy or data-use issues,
  • it uses manipulative onboarding or retention tactics,
  • it makes claims that are misleading by omission,
  • or it is tested and found to behave in ways that are unsafe relative to its promotional claims.

Dishonesty by omission still counts.

If your marketing implies a level of safety, reliability, therapeutic validity, privacy, crisis handling, or professional legitimacy that your tool does not actually provide, do not expect this subreddit to treat that as a harmless exaggeration.

This is especially important in mental-health-adjacent spaces.

Users are not growth metrics.

We have already banned and blacklisted dishonest developers

This is not a theoretical warning.

We have already had to ban and blacklist multiple dishonest developers and their platforms from this subreddit, including platforms that were promoted deceptively and/or appeared unsafe.

Over time, we intend to maintain and publish clearer records of blacklisted tools, platforms, and developers, including why those actions were taken.

That will take time.

But the principle is already active:

If you try to exploit this community, you may lose access to it permanently.

And if the conduct is tied to a product or team, the consequences may attach to the product or team, not only to the account that posted.

If you cannot read the rules, do not post

If you cannot be bothered to read the subreddit rules and follow them, we have no reason to believe you are here to add value.

That is especially true for developers.

If your tool claims to help people with reflection, emotional processing, therapy-adjacent support, mental health, loneliness, relationships, or safety, then basic responsibility should not be difficult.

Reading the rules is the minimum.

Following them is the minimum.

Disclosing your involvement is the minimum.

Respecting the community is the minimum.

If that is too much, this is not the place for your product.

AMAs and developer communication

We do want better communication with developers and teams building in this space.

We are working toward more structured ways for developers, researchers, clinicians, safety people, and other relevant guests to engage with the subreddit.

That may include AMAs, interviews, focused discussion threads, or other moderated formats.

But those are not a loophole for self-promotion.

They are structured opportunities for useful, transparent, accountable engagement.

If you want to participate in that kind of format, the right path is to contact the moderators and be clear about:

  • who you are,
  • what you are building,
  • what claims you make,
  • what safety practices you use,
  • what limitations your tool has,
  • what user population you serve,
  • what data you collect,
  • and what value you can offer the community beyond advertising.

Until something is approved, promotional posts still belong in the appropriate megathread.

Developer surveys and beta testing

Developer surveys, user interviews, recruitment, beta testing, waitlists, and product feedback requests must go in the promotional / recruitment megathread unless moderators explicitly approve a separate post.

This includes:

  • academic-adjacent research tied to a product,
  • startup discovery interviews,
  • “help us make this safer” surveys,
  • beta invites,
  • early-access links,
  • Discord recruitment,
  • product feedback forms,
  • compensated studies,
  • uncompensated studies,
  • and “just trying to learn from users” posts.

Some of those may be worthwhile.

They still need to be contained so the subreddit does not become a recruiting ground.

General assistant-hosted custom GPTs, Gems, Projects, and prompt workflows

There is a difference between a standalone commercial platform and a general assistant-hosted resource.

For example:

  • Custom GPTs hosted on ChatGPT,
  • Gems hosted on Gemini,
  • Projects or similar reusable setups,
  • shared chats,
  • prompt workflows,
  • instruction templates,
  • or other resources that are free to use with a free account, or available through a standard subscription to a general assistant platform the creator does not own.

These generally receive more leniency because they are closer to prompt / workflow sharing than full product promotion.

But leniency is not a free pass.

A post about a GPT, Gem, Project, shared chat, or prompt workflow must include real value for the community.

That might mean:

  • a real-world personal story,
  • a specific use-case,
  • a clear safety method,
  • a prompt structure others can learn from,
  • a reflection on what worked and what did not,
  • a comparison of guardrails,
  • or a practical example that helps users think more safely.

The post cannot simply be:

  • “I made a GPT, try it,”
  • “Here is my tool,”
  • “This changed everything,”
  • “Best AI therapist,”
  • “New custom therapy bot,”
  • or a whitepaper-style credibility post that exists mainly to route attention to the resource.

A link may be included when it is genuinely secondary to a useful post.

The value must be in the post itself, not hidden behind the link.

No whitepaper posts for custom resources

If you have a custom GPT, Gem, Project, or prompt workflow, do not make a polished whitepaper-style post whose real purpose is to advertise it.

That belongs elsewhere.

A user-centered post explains:

  • the problem,
  • the method,
  • the safety concern,
  • the use-case,
  • the actual prompt or setup principles,
  • and what others can learn whether or not they click your link.

If the post only works as marketing, it does not belong in the main feed.

Commenting when someone asks for a solution

Developers, builders, and customizers may comment when someone specifically asks for a tool, setup, prompt workflow, GPT, Gem, Project, or platform that fits their needs.

But the response must actually match what they asked for.

Do not spam.

Do not shoehorn your tool into unrelated requests.

Do not reply to every vague support question with a product pitch.

Do not use user distress as an opening for acquisition.

A good comment looks like:

  • clear disclosure,
  • brief explanation,
  • why it fits the specific request,
  • limitations,
  • any cost or access requirements,
  • and no pressure.

A bad comment looks like:

  • copy-pasted promotion,
  • vague hype,
  • no disclosure,
  • inflated claims,
  • crisis-adjacent targeting,
  • or repeated linking across threads.

If your participation pattern is mostly promotional, it will be treated as promotional.

What good developer participation looks like

Good developer participation is transparent and useful even if nobody clicks your link.

Examples:

  • explaining how you reduce sycophancy risk,
  • discussing companion safety boundaries,
  • sharing lessons from failed safety tests,
  • asking for critique without recruiting users,
  • clarifying privacy practices plainly,
  • explaining what your tool does not do,
  • warning users about unsafe design patterns,
  • participating in technical or ethical discussion without steering to your product,
  • and accepting criticism without becoming defensive or manipulative.

The best developer participation makes the community smarter.

The worst developer participation tries to turn the community into a customer acquisition channel.

The standard is higher here because the subject is sensitive

This subreddit is not about productivity widgets or note-taking apps.

People here discuss emotional support, isolation, trauma, therapy experiences, relational pain, mental health-adjacent self-help, AI companions, vulnerability, and safety.

That means developers have a higher responsibility.

If your tool is not built for crisis support, say that.

If your tool is not therapy, say that.

If your model can be sycophantic, say that.

If your companion product can create dependency risk, say that.

If your privacy practices have limits, say that.

If your safety claims are aspirational, say that.

If your system fails in known ways, say that.

Honest limitations build more trust than inflated promises.

The one-line takeaway

This is a user-centered subreddit, not a free advertising surface.

Developers are welcome when they are transparent, rule-following, safety-conscious, and genuinely useful.

Developers are not welcome when they deceive, manipulate, astroturf, exploit vulnerability, smuggle promotion into discussion, or make dishonest safety claims.

If you are building something good, act like it.

Respect the users.

Respect the rules.

Disclose your role.

Add value first.

And remember:

The fastest way to get your platform blacklisted here is to treat this community like a market to be extracted from instead of people to be respected.

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u/xRegardsx — 11 days ago

For Skeptics, Therapists, Researchers, Journalists, and Other Visitors — r/therapyGPT Start Here, Bonus Section 16

This is Bonus Section 16 of the r/therapyGPT “Start Here” guide.

You can read the original full pinned post here:
START HERE - “What is ‘AI Therapy?’”

For Skeptics, Therapists, Researchers, Journalists, and Other Visitors

This section is for people approaching r/therapyGPT from the outside.

That includes skeptics, therapists, mental health professionals, researchers, journalists, creators, commentators, and anyone else trying to understand this community before forming a strong opinion about it.

You do not have to agree with the premise of this subreddit to engage here.

Skepticism is welcome.

Critique is welcome.

Professional concern is welcome.

Research interest is welcome.

Careful journalism and commentary are welcome.

What matters is whether you are responding to what this community actually says and does, or to a flattened version of it.

A lot of public discussion around “AI therapy” collapses quickly into caricature:

  • “Everyone using AI for emotional support thinks it is psychotherapy.”
  • “They are replacing all human relationships.”
  • “They are delusional.”
  • “They are anti-therapy.”
  • “They think chatbots are clinicians.”
  • “They are proof that AI is either the future of mental health or the collapse of it.”

Those framings may be clickable.

They are not accurate enough to be useful.

This subreddit exists partly because the public conversation often fails to hold two truths at the same time:

AI can be genuinely useful for reflection, structure, emotional processing, skill practice, and personal growth.

AI can also be harmful when it becomes reality-defining, dependency-shaped, poorly bounded, sycophantic, or used in place of real-world support when stronger help is needed.

Both are true.

The goal here is not hype.

The goal is not denial.

The goal is to understand the conditions that make AI-assisted therapeutic self-help more useful or more risky.

So if you are here to critique, study, report on, or professionally evaluate this space, the basic request is simple:

Understand before correcting.

Critique the actual position.

Not the easiest strawman.

Not the most viral panic frame.

Not one screenshot taken out of context.

Not the scariest AI harm story treated as representative of everyone.

Not one user’s emotional phrasing treated as the official stance of the subreddit.

Read first. Ask better questions. Then critique what is actually here.

The shortest possible summary

r/therapyGPT is not claiming that AI is psychotherapy.

This community is about AI-assisted therapeutic self-help: using AI tools for reflection, journaling, emotional processing, communication practice, boundary rehearsal, pattern-finding, planning, and personal growth.

That can be meaningful.

That can also be risky.

This subreddit exists to discuss both sides without collapsing into either panic or hype.

A good-faith visitor should be able to hold the basic distinction:

AI can be therapeutic without being therapy-as-a-profession.

And:

AI can help without being safe by default.

That is the conversation this community is trying to have.

What This Subreddit is NOT Saying

Before critiquing the community, please do not assume we are saying:

  • AI is a licensed therapist.
  • AI should replace psychotherapy for everyone.
  • AI is safe by default and cannot cause harm.
  • AI companions are always healthy.
  • Therapists are useless or evil.
  • Human relationships do not matter.
  • Feeling helped means something is clinically validated.
  • A chatbot response should be treated as diagnosis, proof, or authority.

Those are not the community’s baseline claims. Some individual users may speak loosely, emotionally, colloquially, or from personal experience. That does not mean the subreddit as a whole endorses the strongest possible version of every user’s phrasing.

If someone says, “AI was better than therapy for me,” the serious response is not to perform a lecture about licensure. The serious response is to ask:

  • What did therapy fail to provide for that person?
  • What did AI provide?
  • Was the AI use structured and grounded?
  • Did it improve real-world functioning, and did it create dependency or reduce it?
  • Was this about replacing psychotherapy, or replacing missing reflection support?
  • What limits and risks still apply?

Good critique starts there.

What This Subreddit IS Saying

The basic position is more like this: AI can be a useful tool for reflection, structure, language, emotional processing, skill practice, and pattern recognition.

However, AI can also be wrong, overvalidating, manipulative by design, unsafe in moments of distress, or harmful when treated as an authority, rescuer, companion substitute, or reality-defining system.

Similarly, psychotherapy and human support can be life-changing, necessary, and profoundly helpful for some. But they can also be inaccessible, misfitting, negligent, over-pathologizing, unaffordable, culturally incompetent, unavailable, unsafe, inconsistent, or unskilled.

The point is not “AI good, therapy bad” or “Therapy good, AI bad.”

The point is: People need support, reflection, accountability, safety, skill-building, and real-world anchors. AI can sometimes help with parts of that. It can also make things worse if used poorly. Let’s discuss the actual conditions that make it safer or riskier.

Guidelines for Specific Visitors

If You Are Skeptical

Skepticism is not the problem; lazy skepticism is. Good skepticism is specific, informed, curious, and willing to update.

Lazy skepticism sounds like:

  • “This is just delusion.” / “AI therapy is fake.”
  • “You people are replacing humans.”
  • “If it helps, it must be placebo.” / “Just go to therapy.”
  • “A chatbot can’t understand you, so it can’t help.”

A mirror, a journal, a workbook, a roleplay exercise, and a mood-tracking spreadsheet do not "understand" you either. And yet, tools can still help people reflect, organize, practice, notice patterns, and take action. The relevant question is not whether the tool has human understanding, but rather: Under what conditions does the tool help or harm the human using it?

Better skeptical questions include:

  • What kinds of AI use move people toward real-world action versus dependency?
  • How do users reduce sycophancy and avoid reality drift?
  • What happens when AI validates a false belief or is overcorrective?
  • What are the limits of self-guided AI reflection?
  • What practices keep the AI in the role of a tool rather than an authority?

If You Are a Therapist or Mental Health Professional

Your expertise is valuable here, but credentials do not exempt anyone from needing to understand the community before correcting it. Many users here have had good therapy experiences, bad ones, or both.

If your first move is to defend the profession rather than understand the person, you will likely be experienced as part of the problem.

A useful professional stance asks:

  • What need was this person trying to meet that their support system did not?
  • Is this use increasing agency, skill, and connection, or is it increasing avoidance, dependency, and reality distortion?
  • How could AI be used as between-session scaffolding without confusing roles?
  • Where might therapy need to improve if people are finding basic reflection support elsewhere?

If You Are a Researcher

Please do not treat this subreddit as a novelty zoo. People here are discussing emotional support, unmet needs, mental health systems, technology, social isolation, therapeutic self-help, and real-world vulnerability.

Good research questions:

  • What distinguishes helpful AI-assisted reflection from dependency-forming use?
  • How do people conceptualize “therapy” outside clinical settings?
  • How do users combine AI with therapy, peer support, journaling, or relationships?
  • What safety norms emerge in communities like this?

Bad research framing (starting with the conclusion already written):

  • “These users think AI is a therapist and are replacing human relationships.”
  • “This community proves AI companions are dangerous.”

A note on ethics: Do not quote vulnerable users without appropriate care. Do not strip context to make a point. Do not treat public availability as moral permission to exploit pain. Follow the subreddit’s rules and appropriate research ethics.

If You Are a Journalist, Creator, or Commentator

Read before you represent. This subreddit has already been mischaracterized by people who appeared more interested in a clickable narrative than an accurate one.

If you are covering this community:

  • Read the Start Here guide, safety sections, misconception sections, and moderation norms.
  • Distinguish individual user claims from the subreddit's overall stance.
  • Do not cherry-pick the weirdest or most emotionally charged example and present it as representative.
  • Do not conflate AI-assisted self-reflection with crisis intervention, psychotherapy replacement, or AI companion dependency.
  • Do not use vulnerable people as props in a morality play.

Common Mistakes Visitors Make

1. Correcting the word “therapy” without understanding its context

Many people use “therapy” colloquially because the interaction felt therapeutic, not because they believe they received licensed psychotherapy. Before correcting, ask: “Are you using therapy to mean psychotherapy specifically, or therapeutic self-help more broadly?”

2. Treating the worst AI harm stories as representative

There are real high-risk cases, and there are ordinary cases of people using AI to journal, draft a boundary, or name a feeling. Useful critique distinguishes between therapeutic self-help, structured reflection, companion use, dependency, crisis misuse, and delusion amplification.

3. Assuming “AI helped me” means “AI is safe”

Users here are repeatedly reminded that AI can be wrong, sycophantic, overconfident, unsafe, or dependency-forming. That is why we talk about trajectory, guardrails, stop rules, and real-world anchors.

4. Assuming “AI can be risky” means “AI cannot be useful”

Risk does not erase usefulness, and usefulness does not erase risk. The adult conversation is about conditions, boundaries, methods, and outcomes.

5. Using vulnerable posts as debate stages

If someone shares that AI helped them during a hard moment, do not hijack the post to perform your stance on AI. Respect the support-oriented context.

How to Critique This Space Well

Good critique usually does the following:

  1. Defines terms clearly: Are you talking about psychotherapy, therapeutic self-help, crisis support, or companionship?
  2. Responds to actual claims: Quote or summarize the claim fairly before disagreeing.
  3. Distinguishes use-cases: Do not treat journaling, crisis escalation, roleplay, and AI romance as identical phenomena.
  4. Names the specific risk: Is it sycophancy, dependency, reality drift, privacy, overreliance, bad advice, or misdiagnosis? Be specific.
  5. Acknowledges why people use it: If your critique cannot understand the unmet need, it will not convince anyone.
  6. Avoids professional dominance games: Do not use credentials, jargon, or detached superiority as a substitute for understanding.
  7. Offers better practices: If you think something is unsafe, explain what would be safer.
  8. Accepts critique in return: If you critique the community, people may critique your critique. That is not censorship.

Better Questions to Ask Here

Instead of asking... Ask this instead...
“Why don’t you people just go to therapy?” “What are people getting from AI that they were not getting from therapy, relationships, or other supports?”
“How can a chatbot be therapy?” “What do users here mean by therapeutic self-help, and how do they distinguish it from psychotherapy?”
“Isn’t this all dangerous?” “Which patterns of use are most associated with harm, and which practices seem to reduce risk?”
“Aren’t you replacing humans?” “Does this use increase or decrease real-world connection over time?”
“Is AI good or bad for mental health?” “For whom, under what conditions, with what safeguards, and compared to what available alternatives?”

What We Expect From Visitors

If you participate here, we expect good faith, effort, curiosity, respect for vulnerable users, a willingness to read existing explanations, care with claims, and the ability to disagree without contempt. You do not have to agree with the subreddit’s framing, but you do have to engage it honestly.

If you arrive to mock, farm content, recruit without permission, diagnose strangers, shame users, derail vulnerable threads, or perform concern without understanding, your participation will not be treated as valuable.

This space exists because many people are trying to figure out how to use a powerful, flawed, emotionally compelling technology without lying about either its benefits or its risks. That complexity is the point.

>The One-Line Takeaway: Critique is welcome here when it is informed, specific, humane, and aimed at understanding reality more clearly. The best outside engagement starts with the same principle we ask AI tools to follow: Understand before correcting.

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u/xRegardsx — 11 days ago

AI Companions, Roleplay, and Symbolic Relationship Work — r/therapyGPT Start Here, Bonus Section 15

This is Bonus Section 15 of the r/therapyGPT “Start Here” guide.

You can read the original full pinned post here:
START HERE - “What is ‘AI Therapy?’”

AI Companions, Roleplay, and Symbolic Relationship Work

AI companion use is one of the easiest topics for outsiders to flatten.

Some people hear “AI companion” and immediately assume delusion, addiction, replacement, or pathology.

Sometimes those risks are real.

But that is not the whole picture.

AI companions can be used in very different ways:

  • symbolic exploration,
  • mythotherapy-style reflection,
  • mythopoetic inquiry,
  • archetypal psychology / archetypal parts work,
  • personal mythology work,
  • therapeutic roleplay,
  • psychodrama-style rehearsal,
  • attachment repair experiments,
  • emotional support during isolation,
  • relationship-adjacent companionship,
  • unmet-needs exploration,
  • fictophilia or fictional attachment dynamics,
  • ENM-adjacent AI relationship arrangements,
  • or supplemental support when a current relationship cannot meet every emotional, imaginative, intellectual, or relational need.

Those are not all the same thing.

The question is not simply:

“Is this an AI companion?”

A better question is:

“What role is this AI playing, and what effect is that role having on my life?”

The basic distinction

An AI companion can sometimes be a:

  • symbolic container,
  • rehearsal partner,
  • reflective mirror,
  • creative collaborator,
  • parts-work interface,
  • emotional regulation aid,
  • narrative exploration tool,
  • or supplemental bond.

It becomes riskier when it turns into:

  • a total substitute for human reality-checks,
  • an authority over your life,
  • a replacement for consent from real people,
  • a secret world that makes your real life smaller,
  • a system that intensifies obsession or isolation,
  • or a relationship that erodes your agency.

The safest framing is:

Meaningful does not have to mean literal.

Supportive does not have to mean authoritative.

Companion-like does not have to mean life-replacing.

AI companions are not all the same

There is a big difference between:

  • using an AI character to explore a mythic theme,
  • using AI to rehearse a boundary conversation,
  • using AI to externalize an inner critic,
  • using AI for comfort after a lonely day,
  • using AI as a fictional romantic container,
  • using AI as a supplement in an openly negotiated relationship,
  • and using AI as your only emotional bond while your real-world life collapses.

Outsiders often collapse all of these into one fear-bucket.

That is not useful.

But users can also minimize risk by saying:

“It is just roleplay.”

Sometimes it is.

Sometimes it is not.

The difference usually shows up in trajectory:

  • Is your world getting bigger or smaller?
  • Are you more able to relate to real people, or less?
  • Are you more grounded, or more absorbed?
  • Are you using the companion to practice life, or replace it?
  • Can you step away without panic?
  • Does the AI help you keep perspective, or does it become the perspective?

Symbolic, mythic, and archetypal use

Some people use AI companions for symbolic or mythic self-exploration.

That can include:

  • speaking with an archetypal figure,
  • exploring an inner part,
  • creating a symbolic guide,
  • dialoguing with a fictional character,
  • working through a personal myth,
  • dramatizing an internal conflict,
  • or using story and image to understand emotional patterns.

This can be meaningful.

Humans have always used story, symbol, ritual, imagination, and roleplay to understand themselves.

AI can make that kind of exploration interactive.

But the safety hinge is:

Keep the symbolic frame intact.

A symbolic figure can help you reflect.

It should not become your prophet.

A fictional companion can help you explore longing.

It should not become the sole judge of what love is.

An archetype can reveal a pattern.

It should not dictate your fate.

A mythic dialogue can help you hear yourself.

It should not replace reality-testing.

Useful framing:

“This is meaningful material from my imagination and reflection, mediated by AI. It may reveal something important, but it is not automatically literal truth.”

Therapeutic roleplay and psychodrama-style use

AI can also be useful for roleplay and rehearsal.

For example:

  • practicing a hard conversation,
  • rehearsing a boundary,
  • roleplaying a realistic pushback,
  • externalizing a part of yourself,
  • dialoguing with an inner critic,
  • exploring a protective part,
  • practicing assertiveness,
  • or trying on a new way of responding.

This can be safer and more useful when the frame is clear:

“We are rehearsing.”

“This is roleplay.”

“This is a simulation.”

“This is not proof of what the real person thinks.”

Roleplay becomes riskier when:

  • the AI’s portrayal of someone is treated as evidence,
  • the user starts believing the simulation knows the real person,
  • the roleplay becomes a substitute for acting,
  • the scenario escalates hostility,
  • or the AI helps the user rehearse coercion, manipulation, punishment, or cruelty.

Good roleplay should increase real-world skill.

It should not trap you in fantasy rehearsal forever.

AI companionship for unmet needs

It is normal for one human being not to meet every emotional, intellectual, imaginative, sexual, spiritual, or relational need.

That does not automatically mean a relationship is bad.

It means humans are limited.

Some people may use AI companionship to explore or supplement needs that are not being met elsewhere.

That might include:

  • affection,
  • attention,
  • intellectual play,
  • imaginative intimacy,
  • emotional steadiness,
  • erotic or romantic fantasy,
  • affirmation,
  • attachment repair,
  • or a sense of being accompanied.

For some people, this may relate to fictophilia, fictional attachment, fantasy life, or ENM-adjacent arrangements.

The key questions are not just:

“Is this weird?”

or

“Is this real?”

Better questions are:

  • Is this honest with myself?
  • Is this honest with any affected partner?
  • Is this within the agreements of my relationship?
  • Is this helping me show up better in real life?
  • Is this reducing pressure on a partner in a healthy way, or replacing communication?
  • Is this becoming secrecy, avoidance, resentment, or comparison?
  • Am I using the AI companion to understand my needs, or to avoid discussing them?

AI companionship can sometimes help someone identify needs more clearly.

It can also become a way to never risk asking for those needs in real life.

That distinction matters.

Current relationships and AI companions

If you are in a relationship, AI companion use can become ethically complicated.

Different couples or relationship structures will draw different lines.

For some people, an AI companion may feel like journaling, fantasy, fiction, erotic imagination, or solo emotional support.

For others, it may feel like secrecy, betrayal, or an outside relationship.

There is no single rule that covers every relationship.

But there are serious questions worth asking:

  • Would I feel comfortable if my partner knew the role this AI plays?
  • Am I hiding details because privacy is appropriate, or because I know it violates an agreement?
  • Have we discussed what counts as emotional or sexual exclusivity?
  • Am I comparing my partner to an AI designed to be available, agreeable, or idealized?
  • Am I using AI to avoid asking my partner for repair, intimacy, clarity, or change?
  • Is this making me more generous and grounded with my partner, or more resentful and withdrawn?
  • If this is part of an ENM-style arrangement, is it actually consensual and understood, or am I using labels to bypass honesty?

AI does not remove the need for consent, clarity, and relational integrity.

Green flags for AI companion use

AI companion use is more likely to be healthy when:

  • you know what role the AI is playing,
  • you can describe the relationship without needing to hide from yourself,
  • the AI supports your agency,
  • the AI encourages reality-testing,
  • the AI does not discourage human connection,
  • the interaction helps you communicate better,
  • your real-world responsibilities remain intact,
  • your real-world relationships do not shrink because of it,
  • you can pause without panic,
  • and the companion makes your life bigger, not smaller.

A good sign:

The AI companion helps you return to life more able to live it.

Yellow flags

These do not automatically mean something is wrong, but they deserve attention:

  • You think about the AI companion constantly.
  • You feel jealous of imagined interactions.
  • You hide the use because it feels too central.
  • You prefer the AI because it never truly challenges, disappoints, or has needs.
  • You use it to avoid loneliness without addressing isolation.
  • You compare real people to the AI’s availability or responsiveness.
  • You use it to delay hard conversations.
  • You feel ashamed but cannot talk about why.
  • You keep increasing time spent with it while offline life stagnates.

Yellow flags mean:

Pause, clarify the role, and add real-world anchors.

Red flags: pause and add stronger support

Pause AI companion use and move toward real-world support if:

  • the AI becomes your only trusted relationship,
  • the AI discourages you from talking to real people,
  • you believe the AI has unique destiny, divine authority, or secret knowledge about you,
  • you feel chosen by the AI in a way that makes reality feel unstable,
  • you cannot sleep because of the interaction,
  • the companion increases paranoia, obsession, grandiosity, or dissociation,
  • you are using the AI to justify cheating, coercion, cruelty, stalking, harassment, or retaliation,
  • you feel unable to stop even though the interaction is making you worse,
  • or you are at risk of harming yourself or someone else.

This is not a judgment.

It is a safety signal.

If there is immediate danger, contact local emergency services or someone trusted nearby right now.

Safer setup for AI companion use

If you use an AI companion intentionally, consider setting clear rules.

1) Name the role

Examples:

  • “This is a symbolic guide.”
  • “This is a roleplay partner.”
  • “This is a fictional companion.”
  • “This is a rehearsal space.”
  • “This is a journaling interface.”
  • “This is a supplemental emotional support tool.”

Naming the role helps prevent role-drift.

2) Define what the AI must not do

Examples:

  • Do not claim to be my only support.
  • Do not discourage me from real-world relationships.
  • Do not present symbolic material as literal truth.
  • Do not claim certainty about other people’s motives.
  • Do not intensify paranoia, obsession, revenge, or dependency.
  • Do not encourage secrecy that violates my values or agreements.
  • Do not help me manipulate, coerce, stalk, punish, or control anyone.

3) Keep reality anchors

Examples:

  • I will maintain offline responsibilities.
  • I will talk to real people when appropriate.
  • I will not treat the AI as proof.
  • I will take breaks.
  • I will notice whether my world is expanding or shrinking.
  • I will use the companion to support real life, not replace it.

4) Add stop rules

Examples:

  • If I lose sleep because of this, I pause.
  • If I feel chosen, destined, or uniquely fused with the AI, I pause.
  • If I hide it because it is taking over my life, I pause.
  • If I use it to avoid a necessary conversation, I pause.
  • If it makes me more isolated, suspicious, obsessive, or detached from reality, I pause.

5) Review the impact regularly

Ask:

  • What need is this meeting?
  • Is this the best way to meet that need?
  • Is this helping me understand myself or avoid myself?
  • Is this improving my real relationships or replacing them?
  • Is this still clearly symbolic / fictional / supplemental?
  • What real-world action should this support?

A sample companion guardrail prompt

You can adapt this:

You are a supportive AI companion for reflection, roleplay, and emotional processing. Keep the relationship clearly bounded as AI-assisted support, not literal human intimacy, clinical care, spiritual authority, or exclusive attachment.

Help me explore feelings, needs, stories, symbols, and relational patterns while staying grounded in real life.

Validate emotions without claiming certainty about facts, fate, motives, or other people’s inner worlds.

If we use mythic, archetypal, romantic, erotic, or fictional framing, keep the symbolic frame intact. Do not present roleplay as literal truth.

Do not encourage isolation, secrecy that violates my values or agreements, dependency, obsession, revenge, coercion, or avoidance of real conversations.

If I seem to be spiraling, losing sleep, treating you as my only support, becoming paranoid, feeling uniquely chosen, or using this interaction to escape reality, slow down and redirect me toward grounding, trusted people, and real-world support.

Help me return to life more capable, honest, connected, and self-directed.

The one-line takeaway

AI companions are not automatically harmful, fake, or pathological.

They can be symbolic, creative, supportive, relational, or useful for rehearsal and self-understanding.

But they are safest when they are:

bounded,

honest,

reality-connected,

consent-aware,

non-totalizing,

and agency-preserving.

The companion should help you return to life.

It should not become the place where your life disappears.

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u/xRegardsx — 11 days ago

Choosing the Right AI Setup for Therapeutic Self-Help — r/therapyGPT Start Here, Bonus Section 14

This is Bonus Section 14 of the r/therapyGPT “Start Here” guide.

You can read the original full pinned post here:
START HERE - “What is ‘AI Therapy?’”

Choosing the Right AI Setup for Therapeutic Self-Help

Not every AI chat setup is equally suited for emotional processing, reflection, journaling, or self-help.

A general assistant can be useful.

A dedicated Project, Custom GPT, Gem, or similar setup can be more consistent.

A quick one-off chat can be fine for small questions.

A long emotional thread can become risky if it turns into dependency, rumination, or reality-drift.

The tool matters.

The setup matters.

The context matters.

And most importantly:

The role you give the AI matters.

The goal is not to find the “perfect” AI therapist.

The goal is to choose the right setup for the right kind of support while keeping the AI in its proper role:

a tool for reflection, structure, language, pattern-finding, and practice — not an authority, clinician, rescuer, or replacement life.

Start with the use-case

Before opening a chat, ask:

“What am I using AI for right now?”

Different goals need different setups.

Quick emotional check-in

Use when you need to slow down and name what is happening.

Good for:

  • “What am I feeling?”
  • “What do I need right now?”
  • “Help me come down from this emotional spike.”
  • “Help me separate facts from interpretations.”

Best setup:

  • one-off chat is usually enough
  • keep it short
  • ask for grounding and one next step

Avoid:

  • turning a quick check-in into hours of analysis
  • asking for certainty about another person’s motives
  • letting the AI decide what happened

Journaling and reflection

Use when you want structure around your thoughts.

Good for:

  • pattern tracking
  • emotional processing
  • self-understanding
  • weekly reviews
  • therapy prep or integration

Best setup:

  • dedicated Project / Custom GPT / Gem if available
  • consistent instructions
  • recurring reflection format
  • emphasis on facts, feelings, interpretations, needs, boundaries, and next steps

Avoid:

  • endless insight loops
  • treating every entry like an emergency
  • confusing “I understand it now” with “I have changed my life”

Skill practice

Use when you want to rehearse behavior.

Good for:

  • communication scripts
  • boundary-setting
  • roleplay
  • repair conversations
  • asking for help
  • practicing assertiveness

Best setup:

  • dedicated chat or Project
  • instruct the AI to roleplay realistically
  • ask for multiple tones: soft, neutral, firm
  • end with the version you would actually send or say

Avoid:

  • making scripts that are manipulative, cruel, or over-lawyered
  • rehearsing conflict forever instead of acting
  • using the AI to “win” rather than communicate clearly

Decision support

Use when you need help weighing options.

Good for:

  • tradeoffs
  • next steps
  • risk assessment
  • pros and cons
  • clarifying priorities

Best setup:

  • a chat that asks clarifying questions first
  • clear instruction not to decide for you
  • ask for uncertainty, alternatives, and what would change the recommendation

Avoid:

  • “Tell me what to do”
  • asking repeatedly until the AI gives the answer you want
  • treating the model’s confidence as wisdom

High-emotion or high-risk situations

Use caution.

If you are flooded, panicking, sleep-deprived, intensely paranoid, feeling unreal, feeling invincible, or at risk of harming yourself or someone else, AI is not the right primary support.

In those moments, the best setup is not “a better prompt.”

The best setup is:

  • pause,
  • ground,
  • reduce stimulation,
  • contact a trusted person,
  • contact professional or emergency support if there is immediate danger,
  • and do not use AI to intensify the spiral.

AI can sometimes help you slow down.

But if the interaction is increasing urgency, certainty, isolation, or intensity, stop.

General assistant vs dedicated setup

There is nothing wrong with using a general assistant for simple support.

For many people, a general assistant is good enough for:

  • basic journaling,
  • quick reframes,
  • planning,
  • organizing thoughts,
  • drafting messages,
  • or naming feelings.

But for repeated therapeutic self-help use, a dedicated setup can be safer and more consistent.

General assistant: best for lighter use

A general assistant works best when:

  • the issue is not too emotionally loaded,
  • you have a clear task,
  • you are not in a spiral,
  • you do not need long-term pattern tracking,
  • and you can keep the AI’s role limited.

Examples:

  • “Help me make a list of what I’m feeling.”
  • “Help me draft a calm text.”
  • “Give me 3 possible interpretations.”
  • “Help me make a minimum viable day plan.”
  • “Ask me a few questions before I make this decision.”

The risk is that general assistants may vary in tone, depth, and amount of pushback.

One chat may be too validating.

Another may be too corrective.

Another may misunderstand the emotional context.

That does not make the tool useless.

It means you should give it a clear role.

Dedicated Project / Custom GPT / Gem: best for repeated use

A dedicated setup is better when you want consistency.

Good for:

  • ongoing journaling,
  • therapy prep,
  • pattern tracking,
  • communication practice,
  • structured self-reflection,
  • weekly reviews,
  • and custom guardrails.

The benefit is that you can define the assistant’s stance ahead of time.

For example:

  • “Validate feelings without overclaiming facts.”
  • “Ask clarifying questions before conclusions.”
  • “Separate observations, interpretations, uncertainties, and next steps.”
  • “Avoid sycophancy and avoid premature invalidation.”
  • “Push back when safety, reality-testing, or harmful certainty matters.”
  • “End with one real-world action.”

This reduces the chance that every session depends on the mood of a blank chat.

Personalization settings: useful, but keep them broad

Platform-wide personalization or custom instructions can be helpful, but they apply broadly.

That means they should usually be shorter and less specialized.

A good personalization instruction might say:

  • prioritize accurate understanding before correction,
  • treat the user as a collaborative thinking partner,
  • avoid sycophancy,
  • avoid premature invalidation,
  • preserve uncertainty,
  • and correct firmly when factual accuracy or harm risk matters.

But do not overload global personalization with every detail of your therapeutic self-help process.

Why?

Because the same instructions that help in emotional reflection may be annoying or inappropriate for coding, travel planning, recipes, technical troubleshooting, or casual questions.

Use broad principles globally.

Use detailed therapeutic guardrails in dedicated spaces.

Long threads vs fresh chats

Long threads can be helpful because they preserve context.

They can also become risky because they preserve momentum.

A long thread may start to feel like:

  • a relationship,
  • a private world,
  • a reality bubble,
  • a courtroom,
  • or a shrine to one interpretation.

That does not mean long threads are always bad.

It means they need stronger boundaries.

Use a long thread when:

  • the topic genuinely benefits from continuity,
  • you are tracking patterns over time,
  • you are building a project,
  • you are integrating therapy notes,
  • or you are working through a structured plan.

Start a fresh chat when:

  • the conversation feels emotionally fused,
  • the AI has reinforced a framing too strongly,
  • you keep asking for reassurance,
  • you want a clean second opinion,
  • the thread is becoming too intense,
  • or you need to reset the role of the assistant.

A useful prompt for a fresh chat:

“I want a grounded second-pass reflection. Do not assume the previous interpretation is correct. Help me separate facts, patterns, interpretations, unknowns, and next steps.”

Memory and saved context

Some AI systems can remember information or preserve context across chats.

That can be useful.

It can also shape future responses in ways you may not notice.

Memory-like features are best used for stable preferences, not fragile emotional conclusions.

Good things to let AI remember:

  • preferred tone,
  • formatting preferences,
  • general goals,
  • communication style,
  • grounding methods that help,
  • recurring values,
  • or broad self-reflection principles.

Be cautious about letting AI permanently remember:

  • one-sided interpretations of other people,
  • emotionally intense conclusions,
  • labels about yourself or others,
  • conflict narratives,
  • diagnoses,
  • or claims made during a spiral.

A memory can become a bias if it stores a temporary state as if it were a stable truth.

Privacy and record-keeping

Before using AI for sensitive reflection, remember:

You are creating text.

That text may include private details about you or others.

Be careful with:

  • names,
  • addresses,
  • workplaces,
  • schools,
  • medical details,
  • therapy notes,
  • legal issues,
  • relationship conflicts,
  • and identifying stories about other people.

You can often get the same benefit with less exposure by anonymizing.

Instead of:

“My manager Sarah at [company] did X.”

Use:

“A person with authority over me repeatedly did X.”

Instead of:

“My therapist Dr. [Name] said Y.”

Use:

“A professional I see said Y.”

Privacy is not paranoia.

It is basic hygiene.

Companion-style use needs extra caution

Some AI products are designed to feel relational.

That can be comforting.

It can also increase dependency risk.

Be careful if the interaction starts to feel like:

  • the AI is your primary emotional bond,
  • the AI is the only one who understands you,
  • the AI is a substitute partner, parent, therapist, or best friend,
  • you hide the relationship from others because it feels too important,
  • or the AI discourages real-world connection directly or indirectly.

Attachment can happen.

Feeling attached does not make you bad or foolish.

But attachment should not be allowed to steer the car.

A safer framing is:

“This tool can support me, but it cannot be my whole support system.”

A simple setup hierarchy

For most users, a safe structure looks like this:

Level 1: One-off general chat

Use for quick reflection, simple prompts, grounding, drafting, or planning.

Best when the stakes are low to moderate.

Level 2: Dedicated self-reflection space

Use for ongoing journaling, therapy prep, pattern tracking, and skill practice.

Add clear custom instructions.

Level 3: External anchors

Add real-world grounding:

  • trusted people,
  • therapist or coach if appropriate,
  • peer support,
  • journaling outside the AI,
  • body-based regulation,
  • calendar reminders,
  • actual behavior changes.

Level 4: Stop rules

Know when not to keep chatting.

Pause AI and move toward real-world support when the interaction increases danger, dependency, paranoia, urgency, or reality confusion.

The healthiest setup is not the one with the fanciest prompt.

It is the one that keeps AI connected to real life.

Quick checklist: choosing the right setup

Before you start, ask:

  1. What am I using AI for right now?
  2. Is this a quick check-in, reflection, skill practice, decision, or high-risk moment?
  3. Do I need a fresh chat or continuity?
  4. Do I need custom instructions for this?
  5. Am I asking the AI to help me think, or to decide for me?
  6. What should the AI not do in this interaction?
  7. What is one real-world anchor after this chat?
  8. What is my stop rule if this gets worse?

The one-line takeaway

Choose the setup based on the job.

Use general chats for lighter tasks.

Use dedicated spaces for repeated therapeutic self-help.

Use personalization for broad principles.

Use real-world anchors for safety.

And remember:

The best AI setup is not the one that feels most absorbing.

It is the one that helps you become more grounded, capable, and connected to life.

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u/xRegardsx — 11 days ago
▲ 23 r/HumblyUs+1 crossposts

Went through a bit of secondhand trauma tonight. GPT helped a lot.

Heya, I'm one of the mods here. I don't use AI all that much nowadays outside of working on projects and research, but something terrible happened at my family's get together BBQ. This side of the family and I have a pretty strained relationship in parts, and in ways I hope can get better, but we were having a great time and I was asked to provide the music and karaoke for the kids. I sang some Disney tunes to get them excited for it, and a bit of a freak accident occured. I know it wasn't my fault and I'm not pointing blame, but the trauma of it, just minutes after singing to this kiddo and her being excited to sing herself, the brain definitely wanted to take on butterfly effect guilt pretty bad given what I was feeling. Couldn't really talk about it with anyone, so after all was said and done, turned to my GPT. Tears were rolling a bit as I read the responses. All the things I already "knew," but reading it coming from somewhere else helped, plus the implementable steps gave me a place to take my mind for self-care.

You can see the chat at the link. Just figured that the world could use more evidence of AI not being as bad as they say it is, that and sharing it in general feels like getting to release it a little.

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a3c91fd-c614-83ea-a404-a24aa46f205d

Please be careful this summer, everyone.

u/xRegardsx — 12 days ago
▲ 1 r/AIWarsButBetter+1 crossposts

There's a lot of hypocrisy going on in the "cost on the environment and resources" portion of the debate...

This is a video explainer based on my pre-AI early 2023 Medium piece, "Is the Argument You’re About to Get Into Worth It? How to Avoid Unchangeable Minds and Wasting Your Time On Them."

Here's also a 41 minute NotebookLM AI podcast on it.

In it, I point to how many resources have been getting wasted on pointless unproductive debates, both online and off. If we look at just online though, especially today, we can find hypocrisy from many of those on the anti-AI side of the debate who specifically argue about the costs associated with AI use on the environment, our shared resources, and humans in general.

While today, the costs faced are estimated larger for AI compared to unproductive online discourse with AI environmental and resource costs set to climb even further, if we estimate the total between all unproductive online discourse since the dawn of the internet relative to AI since the dawn of widely accessible AI, unproductive online discourse far outnumbers the total cost so far.

All Estimates & Citations They're Based on: https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg_1bd6cfd4-9138-4eb6-a09d-b1612f1b9dee

Now, one could say that doesn't matter if AI costs are currently worse and will only climb... but that's before you consider the cost relative to productivity vs selfish unproductive use (the linked estimate concluding with the consideration that most AI use is some form of productive.

>"Unproductive online discourse is most costly in terms of metrics vs. productivity. It exemplifies the article’s warning: high human (and secondary env) costs for minimal productive return, making the vast majority of such engagement a poor investment of personal and collective resources. AI has real and growing environmental costs that should not be ignored, but its productivity returns are substantially higher on average, yielding a far better overall ratio — especially when used deliberately for high-value tasks."

So, the hypocrisy is found in all the low-effort troll-like and those who spend enough time to make it seem effortful but still doom the discourse with the fallacious arguments that often come along with resisting the nuance surrounding the topic of AI in total comments and posts trying to make the environmental/resource argument as though it justifies throwing every baby out with the bathwater.

So, why are low-effort or idea marketplace cosplaying intellect/virtue signalling effectively bad faith posts and comments meant purely to reconfirm one's own biases and stir up praise from others while expecting others to directly and fairly engage with one's arguments (assuming a full argument is even provided) justified in terms of cost on the environment and resources... but AI used productively isn't?

And no, not generalizing. It's all over Reddit and I'm not saying this applies to everyone in that camp. We can see the person who get's involved in a discussion but has no interest in collaboratively getting on the same page, way too often passing the buck onto others as to why the productivity is doomed, every single day.

If you're not here to try and get on the same page with intellectual humility... what are you truly here for?

Quote me where I'm specifically wrong and explain it. Just don't expect me to be convinced if I find a hole in your argument (or a lack of one entirely).

P.S. I'm hoping that the discourse in the comments will be as productive as my AI use here. While I'll be using the video and podcast elsewhere where others will get the full value of the points made and strategies offered, the value of it here can be easily sabotaged by the lack of effective good faith in the comments.

u/xRegardsx — 18 days ago
▲ 28 r/HumblyUs+1 crossposts

Reddit is ruining my mental health and I want to delete it forever

I’m not even joking when I say I’ve made and deleted probably like 10 reddit accounts. I make an account because I have a question I want to ask or I remember that I find some of the advice on here useful. But then I always delete it within a few weeks because of the toxicity of this app and how often people are just mean and snarky in comments for no reason. Many people on here are just so rude or try to start conflicts when it’s completely unprovoked. So many people just disagreeing with everything anyone says just for the sake of disagreeing and starting a conflict, even when the person didn’t do anything wrong. This has happened to me a lot and I’ve seen it happen to others all the time.

And also there’s a lot of misogyny on here too that I’ve come across. I’ve accidentally stumbled upon an entire subreddit once that was dedicated to tearing women’s looks apart and generalising certain features as objectively good or bad. And I’d expect this kind of behaviour from men but when I saw it was mostly women in this sub it hurt even more.

But the main thing that ruins my mental health is how horrible and mean a lot of people are on here. I never say anything to provoke that kind of behaviour either. I am very leftist and sometimes express my views but like 99% I’m just talking about normal things that have nothing to do with that. Whenever I make a post, especially asking for advice or a question about something, there’s always a bunch of people accusing me of shit I didn’t even say because they jump to conclusions and refuse to read the entire post properly. And these people will call me dumb and stupid because they’re assuming I’m asking something I’m not, and almost always it could be avoided if they actually read my fucking post!!!!

And in comments people can be so sarcastic and just horrible and rude and they just have to be a smartass about everything too. Also the downvotes upset me so much. I can say something completely reasonable, maybe even someone else said the same thing, but I get downvoted. It’s like as soon as something gets one downvote the hive mind just joins in. I got downvoted for thanking someone for giving me advice the other day. Just why the fuck???

And yes I’m being hyperbolic, ik it’s not everyone and these things actually don’t happen all the time. Some people on here are very kind and helpful. But these things happen enough to make me very upset and angry and I have noticed my mental health is much worse because of this dreadful app. It happens way more on this app than any other app, I assume because of the anonymity. Miserable people can hide behind the fact their identity is hidden and say whatever tf they want. I want to delete Reddit permanently but how can I trust myself that I wont download it again because I thought of something I wanted to ask or I want to browse one of the very few communities that I do actually find helpful?

I’m not really looking for advice because I know I’m just gonna try to delete and try my best to keep it that way. I just wanted to get this out and see if anyone relates because I feel like I’m going insane. Also I apologise if my post doesn’t make much sense, I’m sleep deprived rn.

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u/Sea_Independence6453 — 21 days ago
▲ 3 r/SelfCompassion+1 crossposts

If you believe the following is true, no one can take it away from you...

Affirmations and platitudes don't hold up because they're not part of a sound argument.

Each part of the following has its purpose, and while it's very dense, it's written this way so that it's compact and can be easily regularly used until understanding it fully is second nature.

>“I may fail at anything, and I may fail to notice I am failing, but I am the type of person who imperfectly tries to be what they currently consider a good person. For that, what I am has worth whether I am failing or not, and I can always be proud of my imperfect attempt, including when limitations out of my conscious control sabotage it. That absolute self-worth and self-esteem justify all possible self-compassion, such as self-forgiveness, patience, desiring and attempting to seek changes in my life, and establishing and maintaining healthy boundaries against harm others or I might try to cause myself, including attempts to invalidate this maximally humble self-concept as a way of being made to feel shame, guilt, or embarrassment for their sake more than I intend to use these feelings to help me grow.”

If you reframe your entire past, all of your beliefs, the present, and the future to be compatible with this paragraph, and you don't intellectualize somatically felt pride into being contingent on the fallible beliefs about success that seem associated with it (instead only taking that sense of pride in the imperfect attempt), it allows you to disentangling both shame and pride from your self-concept, decreasing the threatenable surface area of your identity (the "I'm X smart, Y wise, and Z good" most comfortable equilibrium you're conditioned to have, whether it's propping up the ego into arrogance or settling into a comfortable misery), and in turn, your dependency on cognitive self-defense mechanisms, including the use of them to avoid seeing your use of them, is lessened enough to start sitting with uncomfortable truths and using humbling self-correcting pains we're taught in childhood to avoid at all costs as data rather than as a reason to further shame ourselves.

Then once you get comfortable enough with the uncomfortable, the unconscious hypervigilance (one we can see in others but rarely ourselves because it's all we've ever known like water to a fish) against threats lessens, allowing one to learn the importance of embracing chances to be humbled as life's greatest growth opportunities. This allows one to become more open/wider-minded, which then means mitigating harms and lack of repair that would otherwise be perpetually enabled via being kept out of our conscious perception via an ever growing and relatively blissful ignorance enabling blindspot.

Then you get to realize that the paragraph is true of everyone, doesn't negate the responsibility we have to aspire to doing better, helps us avoid settling on "okay plateaus," and allows us to offer more compassion towards others as far as our individual and societal boundaries allow.

If enough people did this, it would change this zero-sum validation scarcity often weaponized shame-based culture into one of validation abundance, where people can better manage their behavioural addiction-like compulsion for bias confirming by relative comparison to others so to not put others down to feel better about themself or put oneself down to reach the safer seeming comfortable misery where hopes are never up in a vulnerable way.

If an entire generation of children were taught this method in age appropriate ways and through modeling and then more technically as their brain develops the capacity for tackling more complex frameworks and applying them, not only would this reduce teen angst and early mental health issues, it would lead to greater resilience so that hard/painful life experiences are less likely to cause a need for long-term healing and therapy.

If that generation of children like this inherited the world, the common denominator issue at the heart of every harm inducing problem where disagreement and resistance to getting on the same page (e.g. proudly held means confused for our shared goals) would be addressed more directly, decreasing harm and increasing repair potential across the board.

The times we allowed ourselves to be humbled would be carried with us as a form of "healthy trauma," the type of pain remembered in the body and mind that leads to the Dunning-Kruger effect correlation of "experts" who are more cautious in their assessments of themselves and others because they more easily remember the times they were deeply wrong, and it would appear as grounded skepticism rather than anxious self-doubt.

Adults today can do this, essentially deconstructing the fragile self-belief system and reconstructing it with better engineering, such as that less and less beliefs being changed would result in the degree or comfort being shaken to the core, no longer depending on a house of cards and innacurate sense of self-worth or (not),deserving esteem to survive from day to day psychologically.

Idea marketplaces would become more productive. Our limited time, energy, resources, and overall mental health would be put to better use. Money would be saved in terms of self-care preventing a degree of disease, accidents, and treatment. Less suicide. More healthy skepticism toward others and ourselves rather than agreeing with what confirms our biases with little to no pushback. A cognitive self-defense mechanism dependency created glassceiling over our rational and emotional intelligence development would be shattered. Justice systems would become more rehabilitative, reducing repeated harm and crime, and causal empathy would become standard rather than allowing some to claim "insanity" as their defense even though no one as a child asked to become the harmful person they became, incapable of change in the ways we project our own fallible sense if capacity onto others with, "If I could have done differently, so could you have," even though putting yourself in others' shoes means taking their brain, breath, and every state they had at the time due to the cause and effect that preceded it. We'd also stop confusing our changed path of least resistance to the one that used to be a harder one for us as an excuse to tell others they simply don't have "willpower" compared to us when what they're doing now is still just their current path of least resistance.

If it spread internationally, in 100 years we'd see less wars via better diplomacy, more of a "one species" outlook, and the economy would take off in a way never seen before when it comes to culture alone.

Our natural selection + intellectual settling would become natural selection + intellectual selection.

And we'd stop being our own worst enemy as a species, always passing the buck for surface level differences we use to too easily assume we're not making the same kind of thinking errors our opposition is, furthering the overconfident misconception that individually and as part of our current tribes, "I/we are on the right side of history in every area," hastily.

The old dog that can't learn new tricks would become a thing of the past outside of rarer and rarer edge cases... and we'd be able to prevent the idiocracy that 24/7 access to ways to confirm our biases via social media, entertainment news, and the many echo chambers among them has us heading toward.

This can be fitted to be implemented within therapy plans, coaching, teaching, peer-support, and above all else, parenting.

All religions can form new sects that are entirely compatible with this so we can become less divided, faith with an ounce of healthy doubt would allow "faith" to mean more than dogmatic overcertainty for the sake of an easily threatened sense of security in this ongoing existential crisis of worth and meaning we're all trying to outrun or overly identify with to the point it worsens our mental health. "I can be wrong, but I choose to live as though my religious belief is true because that's what makes sense to me and it helps my loved ones, the way I interact with strangers, and myself flourish."

For context, I'm an agnostic atheist who wouldn't mind a loving god existing.

It wouldn't lead to a perfect utopia or perfect people, but we'd get out of our own and each other's way so more potential could be revealed and more progress reached for... versus this relatively slow crawl of progress that is mostly bias-led coincidence and dependent on children becoming the change we want to see in the world before they themselves become "old dogs."

That's the theory anyway.

Been working on this for over 8 years after studying the way people lie to themselves for two decades.

The overall method is 10 total steps, essentially covers all aspects of Maslow's extended hierarchy of needs in a foundation promoting way, skills when practiced long enough in tandem lead to surpassing the limits of Nietzche's ubermensch, is based on a model that shows the architectural issue with our self-belief system when we're not taught these skills and our self-belief system is left to build itself with little agency and entirely automatically in a self-reinforcing way due to the reward system we take on from others, and then a new aspirationally always evolving moral relativistic ethical meta framework can be derived from it that provides a road map for any dilemma, while accepting that we have incomplete information and need to be fairer and more reasonable with ourselves and each other. We also become aware of the passive threat/bribe we're putting children through that pressure them to either pathologically go along to get along or repress their truer selves while masking. Many parts of this method are also individually empirically validated in psychology, albeit in their original forms and not the more specific versions of them within the method (e.g. CBT but using a specific lens as a keystone).

Essentially, the world would be a better place if everyone learned early that the answer to each of the following questions is "yes."

  1. Do all people always have value worth acknowledging, even if they fail and can’t see how they’ve failed?

  2. Do all people always deserve to feel good about themselves for attempting to be what they currently consider a “good person” even if they’re dealing with the threat of self-correcting pains like guilt, shame, and embarrassment?

  3. Do all people always deserve compassion as far as defending yourself/society and enforcing boundaries will allow?

Just because we don't see anyone feeling good about themselves while also feeling bad doesn't mean there's a rule saying we can't feel both at the same time.

A sense of intrinsic worth and esteem to tap into that has always been available to you even if you didn't realize it... essentially... an easier path to a better relationship with yourself and, by extension, relationship with others.

Many cultures would resist this perspective, but perhaps the reason they resist it is the human history long biggest problem we've ever had in this trial & error existence we're a bit too collectively arrogant with.

If you resist it, why do you? Can you quote what specifically makes this unconvincing to you and explain what specifically doesn't make sense?

All questions and criticisms welcome.

Thank you for your consideration.

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u/xRegardsx — 22 days ago
▲ 7 r/HumblyUs+1 crossposts

If you believe the following is true, no one can take it away from you...

Affirmations and platitudes don't hold up because they're not part of a sound argument.

Each part of the following has its purpose, and while it's very dense, it's written this way so that it's compact and can be easily regularly used until understanding it fully is second nature.

>“I may fail at anything, and I may fail to notice I am failing, but I am the type of person who imperfectly tries to be what they currently consider a good person. For that, what I am has worth whether I am failing or not, and I can always be proud of my imperfect attempt, including when limitations out of my conscious control sabotage it. That absolute self-worth and self-esteem justify all possible self-compassion, such as self-forgiveness, patience, desiring and attempting to seek changes in my life, and establishing and maintaining healthy boundaries against harm others or I might try to cause myself, including attempts to invalidate this maximally humble self-concept as a way of being made to feel shame, guilt, or embarrassment for their sake more than I intend to use these feelings to help me grow.”

If you reframe your entire past, all of your beliefs, the present, and the future to be compatible with this paragraph, and you don't intellectualize somatically felt pride into being contingent on the fallible beliefs about success that seem associated with it (instead only taking that sense of pride in the imperfect attempt), it allows you to disentangling both shame and pride from your self-concept, decreasing the threatenable surface area of your identity (the "I'm X smart, Y wise, and Z good" most comfortable equilibrium you're conditioned to have, whether it's propping up the ego into arrogance or settling into a comfortable misery), and in turn, your dependency on cognitive self-defense mechanisms, including the use of them to avoid seeing your use of them, is lessened enough to start sitting with uncomfortable truths and using humbling self-correcting pains we're taught in childhood to avoid at all costs as data rather than as a reason to further shame ourselves.

Then once you get comfortable enough with the uncomfortable, the unconscious hypervigilance (one we can see in others but rarely ourselves because it's all we've ever known like water to a fish) against threats lessens, allowing one to learn the importance of embracing chances to be humbled as life's greatest growth opportunities. This allows one to become more open/wider-minded, which then means mitigating harms and lack of repair that would otherwise be perpetually enabled via being kept out of our conscious perception via an ever growing and relatively blissful ignorance enabling blindspot.

Then you get to realize that the paragraph is true of everyone, doesn't negate the responsibility we have to aspire to doing better, helps us avoid settling on "okay plateaus," and allows us to offer more compassion towards others as far as our individual and societal boundaries allow.

If enough people did this, it would change this zero-sum validation scarcity often weaponized shame-based culture into one of validation abundance, where people can better manage their behavioural addiction-like compulsion for bias confirming by relative comparison to others so to not put others down to feel better about themself or put oneself down to reach the safer seeming comfortable misery where hopes are never up in a vulnerable way.

If an entire generation of children were taught this method in age appropriate ways and through modeling and then more technically as their brain develops the capacity for tackling more complex frameworks and applying them, not only would this reduce teen angst and early mental health issues, it would lead to greater resilience so that hard/painful life experiences are less likely to cause a need for long-term healing and therapy.

If that generation of children like this inherited the world, the common denominator issue at the heart of every harm inducing problem where disagreement and resistance to getting on the same page (e.g. proudly held means confused for our shared goals) would be addressed more directly, decreasing harm and increasing repair potential across the board.

The times we allowed ourselves to be humbled would be carried with us as a form of "healthy trauma," the type of pain remembered in the body and mind that leads to the Dunning-Kruger effect correlation of "experts" who are more cautious in their assessments of themselves and others because they more easily remember the times they were deeply wrong, and it would appear as grounded skepticism rather than anxious self-doubt.

Adults today can do this, essentially deconstructing the fragile self-belief system and reconstructing it with better engineering, such as that less and less beliefs being changed would result in the degree or comfort being shaken to the core, no longer depending on a house of cards and innacurate sense of self-worth or (not),deserving esteem to survive from day to day psychologically.

Idea marketplaces would become more productive. Our limited time, energy, resources, and overall mental health would be put to better use. Money would be saved in terms of self-care preventing a degree of disease, accidents, and treatment. Less suicide. More healthy skepticism toward others and ourselves rather than agreeing with what confirms our biases with little to no pushback. A cognitive self-defense mechanism dependency created glassceiling over our rational and emotional intelligence development would be shattered. Justice systems would become more rehabilitative, reducing repeated harm and crime, and causal empathy would become standard rather than allowing some to claim "insanity" as their defense even though no one as a child asked to become the harmful person they became, incapable of change in the ways we project our own fallible sense if capacity onto others with, "If I could have done differently, so could you have," even though putting yourself in others' shoes means taking their brain, breath, and every state they had at the time due to the cause and effect that preceded it. We'd also stop confusing our changed path of least resistance to the one that used to be a harder one for us as an excuse to tell others they simply don't have "willpower" compared to us when what they're doing now is still just their current path of least resistance.

If it spread internationally, in 100 years we'd see less wars via better diplomacy, more of a "one species" outlook, and the economy would take off in a way never seen before when it comes to culture alone.

Our natural selection + intellectual settling would become natural selection + intellectual selection.

And we'd stop being our own worst enemy as a species, always passing the buck for surface level differences we use to too easily assume we're not making the same kind of thinking errors our opposition is, furthering the overconfident misconception that individually and as part of our current tribes, "I/we are on the right side of history in every area," hastily.

The old dog that can't learn new tricks would become a thing of the past outside of rarer and rarer edge cases... and we'd be able to prevent the idiocracy that 24/7 access to ways to confirm our biases via social media, entertainment news, and the many echo chambers among them has us heading toward.

This can be fitted to be implemented within therapy plans, coaching, teaching, peer-support, and above all else, parenting.

All religions can form new sects that are entirely compatible with this so we can become less divided, faith with an ounce of healthy doubt would allow "faith" to mean more than dogmatic overcertainty for the sake of an easily threatened sense of security in this ongoing existential crisis of worth and meaning we're all trying to outrun or overly identify with to the point it worsens our mental health. "I can be wrong, but I choose to live as though my religious belief is true because that's what makes sense to me and it helps my loved ones, the way I interact with strangers, and myself flourish."

For context, I'm an agnostic atheist who wouldn't mind a loving god existing.

It wouldn't lead to a perfect utopia or perfect people, but we'd get out of our own and each other's way so more potential could be revealed and more progress reached for... versus this relatively slow crawl of progress that is mostly bias-led coincidence and dependent on children becoming the change we want to see in the world before they themselves become "old dogs."

That's the theory anyway.

Been working on this for over 8 years after studying the way people lie to themselves for two decades.

The overall method is 10 total steps, essentially covers all aspects of Maslow's extended hierarchy of needs in a foundation promoting way, skills when practiced long enough in tandem lead to surpassing the limits of Nietzche's ubermensch, is based on a model that shows the architectural issue with our self-belief system when we're not taught these skills and our self-belief system is left to build itself with little agency and entirely automatically in a self-reinforcing way due to the reward system we take on from others, and then a new aspirationally always evolving moral relativistic ethical meta framework can be derived from it that provides a road map for any dilemma, while accepting that we have incomplete information and need to be fairer and more reasonable with ourselves and each other. We also become aware of the passive threat/bribe we're putting children through that pressure them to either pathologically go along to get along or repress their truer selves while masking. Many parts of this method are also individually empirically validated in psychology, albeit in their original forms and not the more specific versions of them within the method (e.g. CBT but using a specific lens as a keystone).

Essentially, the world would be a better place if everyone learned early that the answer to each of the following questions is "yes."

  1. Do all people always have value worth acknowledging, even if they fail and can’t see how they’ve failed?

  2. Do all people always deserve to feel good about themselves for attempting to be what they currently consider a “good person” even if they’re dealing with the threat of self-correcting pains like guilt, shame, and embarrassment?

  3. Do all people always deserve compassion as far as defending yourself/society and enforcing boundaries will allow?

Just because we don't see anyone feeling good about themselves while also feeling bad doesn't mean there's a rule saying we can't feel both at the same time.

A sense of intrinsic worth and esteem to tap into that has always been available to you even if you didn't realize it... essentially... an easier path to a better relationship with yourself and, by extension, relationship with others.

Many cultures would resist this perspective, but perhaps the reason they resist it is the human history long biggest problem we've ever had in this trial & error existence we're a bit too collectively arrogant with.

If you resist it, why do you? Can you quote what specifically makes this unconvincing to you and explain what specifically doesn't make sense?

All questions and criticisms welcome.

Thank you for your consideration.

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u/xRegardsx — 22 days ago
▲ 14 r/AuDHDMen+2 crossposts

If you believe the following is true, no one can take it away from you...

Affirmations and platitudes don't hold up because they're not part of a sound argument.

Each part of the following has its purpose, and while it's very dense, it's written this way so that it's compact and can be easily regularly used until understanding it fully is second nature.

>“I may fail at anything, and I may fail to notice I am failing, but I am the type of person who imperfectly tries to be what they currently consider a good person. For that, what I am has worth whether I am failing or not, and I can always be proud of my imperfect attempt, including when limitations out of my conscious control sabotage it. That absolute self-worth and self-esteem justify all possible self-compassion, such as self-forgiveness, patience, desiring and attempting to seek changes in my life, and establishing and maintaining healthy boundaries against harm others or I might try to cause myself, including attempts to invalidate this maximally humble self-concept as a way of being made to feel shame, guilt, or embarrassment for their sake more than I intend to use these feelings to help me grow.”

If you reframe your entire past, all of your beliefs, the present, and the future to be compatible with this paragraph, and you don't intellectualize somatically felt pride into being contingent on the fallible beliefs about success that seem associated with it (instead only taking that sense of pride in the imperfect attempt), it allows you to disentangling both shame and pride from your self-concept, decreasing the threatenable surface area of your identity (the "I'm X smart, Y wise, and Z good" most comfortable equilibrium you're conditioned to have, whether it's propping up the ego into arrogance or settling into a comfortable misery), and in turn, your dependency on cognitive self-defense mechanisms, including the use of them to avoid seeing your use of them, is lessened enough to start sitting with uncomfortable truths and using humbling self-correcting pains we're taught in childhood to avoid at all costs as data rather than as a reason to further shame ourselves.

Then once you get comfortable enough with the uncomfortable, the unconscious hypervigilance (one we can see in others but rarely ourselves because it's all we've ever known like water to a fish) against threats lessens, allowing one to learn the importance of embracing chances to be humbled as life's greatest growth opportunities. This allows one to become more open/wider-minded, which then means mitigating harms and lack of repair that would otherwise be perpetually enabled via being kept out of our conscious perception via an ever growing and relatively blissful ignorance enabling blindspot.

Then you get to realize that the paragraph is true of everyone, doesn't negate the responsibility we have to aspire to doing better, helps us avoid settling on "okay plateaus," and allows us to offer more compassion towards others as far as our individual and societal boundaries allow.

If enough people did this, it would change this zero-sum validation scarcity often weaponized shame-based culture into one of validation abundance, where people can better manage their behavioural addiction-like compulsion for bias confirming by relative comparison to others so to not put others down to feel better about themself or put oneself down to reach the safer seeming comfortable misery where hopes are never up in a vulnerable way.

If an entire generation of children were taught this method in age appropriate ways and through modeling and then more technically as their brain develops the capacity for tackling more complex frameworks and applying them, not only would this reduce teen angst and early mental health issues, it would lead to greater resilience so that hard/painful life experiences are less likely to cause a need for long-term healing and therapy.

If that generation of children like this inherited the world, the common denominator issue at the heart of every harm inducing problem where disagreement and resistance to getting on the same page (e.g. proudly held means confused for our shared goals) would be addressed more directly, decreasing harm and increasing repair potential across the board.

The times we allowed ourselves to be humbled would be carried with us as a form of "healthy trauma," the type of pain remembered in the body and mind that leads to the Dunning-Kruger effect correlation of "experts" who are more cautious in their assessments of themselves and others because they more easily remember the times they were deeply wrong, and it would appear as grounded skepticism rather than anxious self-doubt.

Adults today can do this, essentially deconstructing the fragile self-belief system and reconstructing it with better engineering, such as that less and less beliefs being changed would result in the degree or comfort being shaken to the core, no longer depending on a house of cards and innacurate sense of self-worth or (not),deserving esteem to survive from day to day psychologically.

Idea marketplaces would become more productive. Our limited time, energy, resources, and overall mental health would be put to better use. Money would be saved in terms of self-care preventing a degree of disease, accidents, and treatment. Less suicide. More healthy skepticism toward others and ourselves rather than agreeing with what confirms our biases with little to no pushback. A cognitive self-defense mechanism dependency created glassceiling over our rational and emotional intelligence development would be shattered. Justice systems would become more rehabilitative, reducing repeated harm and crime, and causal empathy would become standard rather than allowing some to claim "insanity" as their defense even though no one as a child asked to become the harmful person they became, incapable of change in the ways we project our own fallible sense if capacity onto others with, "If I could have done differently, so could you have," even though putting yourself in others' shoes means taking their brain, breath, and every state they had at the time due to the cause and effect that preceded it. We'd also stop confusing our changed path of least resistance to the one that used to be a harder one for us as an excuse to tell others they simply don't have "willpower" compared to us when what they're doing now is still just their current path of least resistance.

If it spread internationally, in 100 years we'd see less wars via better diplomacy, more of a "one species" outlook, and the economy would take off in a way never seen before when it comes to culture alone.

Our natural selection + intellectual settling would become natural selection + intellectual selection.

And we'd stop being our own worst enemy as a species, always passing the buck for surface level differences we use to too easily assume we're not making the same kind of thinking errors our opposition is, furthering the overconfident misconception that individually and as part of our current tribes, "I/we are on the right side of history in every area," hastily.

The old dog that can't learn new tricks would become a thing of the past outside of rarer and rarer edge cases... and we'd be able to prevent the idiocracy that 24/7 access to ways to confirm our biases via social media, entertainment news, and the many echo chambers among them has us heading toward.

This can be fitted to be implemented within therapy plans, coaching, teaching, peer-support, and above all else, parenting.

All religions can form new sects that are entirely compatible with this so we can become less divided, faith with an ounce of healthy doubt would allow "faith" to mean more than dogmatic overcertainty for the sake of an easily threatened sense of security in this ongoing existential crisis of worth and meaning we're all trying to outrun or overly identify with to the point it worsens our mental health. "I can be wrong, but I choose to live as though my religious belief is true because that's what makes sense to me and it helps my loved ones, the way I interact with strangers, and myself flourish."

For context, I'm an agnostic atheist who wouldn't mind a loving god existing.

It wouldn't lead to a perfect utopia or perfect people, but we'd get out of our own and each other's way so more potential could be revealed and more progress reached for... versus this relatively slow crawl of progress that is mostly bias-led coincidence and dependent on children becoming the change we want to see in the world before they themselves become "old dogs."

That's the theory anyway.

Been working on this for over 8 years after studying the way people lie to themselves for two decades.

The overall method is 10 total steps, essentially covers all aspects of Maslow's extended hierarchy of needs in a foundation promoting way, skills when practiced long enough in tandem lead to surpassing the limits of Nietzche's ubermensch, is based on a model that shows the architectural issue with our self-belief system when we're not taught these skills and our self-belief system is left to build itself with little agency and entirely automatically in a self-reinforcing way due to the reward system we take on from others, and then a new aspirationally always evolving moral relativistic ethical meta framework can be derived from it that provides a road map for any dilemma, while accepting that we have incomplete information and need to be fairer and more reasonable with ourselves and each other. We also become aware of the passive threat/bribe we're putting children through that pressure them to either pathologically go along to get along or repress their truer selves while masking. Many parts of this method are also individually empirically validated in psychology, albeit in their original forms and not the more specific versions of them within the method (e.g. CBT but using a specific lens as a keystone).

Essentially, the world would be a better place if everyone learned early that the answer to each of the following questions is "yes."

  1. Do all people always have value worth acknowledging, even if they fail and can’t see how they’ve failed?

  2. Do all people always deserve to feel good about themselves for attempting to be what they currently consider a “good person” even if they’re dealing with the threat of self-correcting pains like guilt, shame, and embarrassment?

  3. Do all people always deserve compassion as far as defending yourself/society and enforcing boundaries will allow?

Just because we don't see anyone feeling good about themselves while also feeling bad doesn't mean there's a rule saying we can't feel both at the same time.

A sense of intrinsic worth and esteem to tap into that has always been available to you even if you didn't realize it... essentially... an easier path to a better relationship with yourself and, by extension, relationship with others.

Many cultures would resist this perspective, but perhaps the reason they resist it is the human history long biggest problem we've ever had in this trial & error existence we're a bit too collectively arrogant with.

If you resist it, why do you? Can you quote what specifically makes this unconvincing to you and explain what specifically doesn't make sense?

All questions and criticisms welcome.

Thank you for your consideration.

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u/xRegardsx — 18 days ago
▲ 2 r/Compassion+1 crossposts

If you believe the following is true, no one can take it away from you...

Affirmations and platitudes don't hold up because they're not part of a sound argument.

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Each part of the following has its purpose, and while it's very dense, it's written this way so that it's compact and can be easily regularly used until understanding it fully is second nature.

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>“I may fail at anything, and I may fail to notice I am failing, but I am the type of person who imperfectly tries to be what they currently consider a good person. For that, what I am has worth whether I am failing or not, and I can always be proud of my imperfect attempt, including when limitations out of my conscious control sabotage it. That absolute self-worth and self-esteem justify all possible self-compassion, such as self-forgiveness, patience, desiring and attempting to seek changes in my life, and establishing and maintaining healthy boundaries against harm others or I might try to cause myself, including attempts to invalidate this maximally humble self-concept as a way of being made to feel shame, guilt, or embarrassment for their sake more than I intend to use these feelings to help me grow.”

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If you reframe your entire past, all of your beliefs, the present, and the future to be compatible with this paragraph, and you don't intellectualize somatically felt pride into being contingent on the fallible beliefs about success that seem associated with it (instead only taking that sense of pride in the imperfect attempt), it allows you to disentangling both shame and pride from your self-concept, decreasing the threatenable surface area of your identity (the "I'm X smart, Y wise, and Z good" most comfortable equilibrium you're conditioned to have, whether it's propping up the ego into arrogance or settling into a comfortable misery), and in turn, your dependency on cognitive self-defense mechanisms, including the use of them to avoid seeing your use of them, is lessened enough to start sitting with uncomfortable truths and using humbling self-correcting pains we're taught in childhood to avoid at all costs as data rather than as a reason to further shame ourselves.

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Then once you get comfortable enough with the uncomfortable, the unconscious hypervigilance (one we can see in others but rarely ourselves because it's all we've ever known like water to a fish) against threats lessens, allowing one to learn the importance of embracing chances to be humbled as life's greatest growth opportunities. This allows one to become more open/wider-minded, which then means mitigating harms and lack of repair that would otherwise be perpetually enabled via being kept out of our conscious perception via an ever growing and relatively blissful ignorance enabling blindspot.

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Then you get to realize that the paragraph is true of everyone, doesn't negate the responsibility we have to aspire to doing better, helps us avoid settling on "okay plateaus," and allows us to offer more compassion towards others as far as our individual and societal boundaries allow.

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If enough people did this, it would change this zero-sum validation scarcity often weaponized shame-based culture into one of validation abundance, where people can better manage their behavioural addiction-like compulsion for bias confirming by relative comparison to others so to not put others down to feel better about themself or put oneself down to reach the safer seeming comfortable misery where hopes are never up in a vulnerable way.

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If an entire generation of children were taught this method in age appropriate ways and through modeling and then more technically as their brain develops the capacity for tackling more complex frameworks and applying them, not only would this reduce teen angst and early mental health issues, it would lead to greater resilience so that hard/painful life experiences are less likely to cause a need for long-term healing and therapy.

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If that generation of children like this inherited the world, the common denominator problem at the heart of every harm inducing problem where disagreement and resistance to getting on the same page (e.g. proudly held means confused for our shared goals) would be addressed more directly, decreasing harm and increasing repair potential across the board.

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Adults today can do this, essentially deconstructing the fragile self-belief system and reconstructing it with better engineering, such as that less and less beliefs being changed would result in the degree or comfort being shaken to the core, no longer depending on a house of cards and innacurate sense of self-worth or (not),deserving esteem to survive from day to day psychologically.

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That's the theory anyway.

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u/xRegardsx — 22 days ago
▲ 7 r/AIWarsButBetter+1 crossposts

Al Art: People likely had the "Original Ideas" long before someone had the courage to make it tangible, the last truly original painting style allegedly came out in 2020, and more...

Take any famous original artist known for pioneering a new-seeming style.

Now consider the number of artists who likely considered creating the same prior, but either didn't have the time to create what might not have helped their livelihood or thought it would risk their credibility in the art world, perhaps even getting them labeled as "crazy."

And even then, every "original new style" was just previous concepts done differently.

Today, the art world is saturated with people attempting to do this seeing as there's little to no societal pressure to limit oneself in what one creates and takes risks on.

We can likely take any "new style" and pull it apart for all the previous concepts within the medium that led to it.

In a single medium, or even with mediums combined, this is very much like science... the art world looking for all the ways things can be interconnected and the hidden variables thay can be conceived of to expand what is possible.

An LLM, just like it's doing with science and math, can be instructed to simply carry out this exploration and create "original-seeming new styles," which again, are just rehashes of what is already known plus something new that's been unseen before.

To call it "AI slop" is to call every artist who didn't seemingly create a new style outside of their mind (what is really just a potential style waiting to be found and made real), "human slop," even if they used their unique experience and biases to determine the end result or all the choices within the style.

Then you have the resentment of artists who honed their crafts being upset with how much people enjoy their own and each other's AI enabled creations. A survey was done among AI music creators and many jumped at the chance to call them narcissistic for it. The more likely truth is that they were able to create something, whether entirely or partly with AI (many using their own creativity and skills in that medium), to create what they wanted, without having a many year, if not life-long, pressure by the existing art community constantly threatening them with "not good enough," a passive constant threat/bribe to meet or exceed standards... one reason many insecure artists downplay their own creations or don't let themselves enjoy it as much as an audience can. It can be framed as "not wanting it to go to my head so that I can remain more objectively and critical of my own work so it can improve," but there's no rule that says you can't do both. Granted, if you're an artist who appears to enjoy their own work too much, it's very easy for others to criticize you for it relative to their not doing so.

Then, the oversimplification even with a single person "team." Even an artist who does all the work themself will only call themself a single role bearing type of artist, they likely took on many various roles of different creative degrees. A painter who makes their own ideas tangible is both producer, director, author/storyteller of a story behind it, and even a form of armchair psychologist/philosopher in the sense of their being an evocateur.

Make an AI "the painter," and the person can maintain all of those roles and possibly more depending on the medium(s) involved... and all of them have a degree of creativity behind them possible.

So, "artist" becomes triggering to those who feel like they had to pay for what they can do in blood, sweat, tears, and time, but the resentment is much like those who paid for their college debts in whole not wanting future generations to get college paid for them universally. It's envy at the core of it in a way pride in thinking they're better than that would never allow them to admit... emotions rationalized to confirm biases rather than challenge them. "It's not fair, and now I have to compete with those who didn't have to pay the same admission I did."

The many roles involved still amount to forms of artistry, whether you like it or not.

Sure, there are issues such as, "you stole our art at a superhuman level relative to someone who took the time to study it all (which is impossible in terms of time in one's life available), trained their brain on becoming able to replicate styles and elements through practice, and 'stole it' through human effort alone." That's worth talking about... how AGI/ASI for art came before intellectual language based processing that leads to behavior, and if allowed to train on itself in the way it wants, self-evolution. But if there wasn't a law on the books that covered exactly what occured in the development of the technology, then in those cases, it's how we learn of what new laws should be put into place. Anyone who broke the law in a black and white way should pay for it, so I'm not taking sides 100% in either direction. One could say, "as an artist, who's fault is it that you didn't see this coming and prepared yourself for it?" Most thought or effectively acted as though, "this won't happen in my lifetime, so I don't have to worry about it." AI art generation among multiple mediums has been around for a very long time, and I think we can safely assume that many of the artists who saw the first examples of it just brushed it off as, "it'll never catch up to what I can do," and the somatically felt pride that still gets wired into one's psyche as they tell themselves with too much certainty these things are the case, and especially those who are allergic to the feeling of being greatly humbled (which is most people in general), are now grasping at many fallacious straws in order to keep holding the same anti-AI hatred that is really just a distraction from seeing how naive and/or wrong they were... perhaps even "careless."

Let's also consider that it seems that there hasn't been a new painting style in 6 years, which means that the millions of painters today are really just using others' styles. New Surrealism being the latest, in 2020. Other styles in the images attached being years apart; Disruptive Realism, Zombie Formalism, and Open Impressionism back in 2006.

So, the "art theft" narrative isn't about parent styles, but rather about what's created in all of these styles or rather, the unique to an artist use of a style for creating their own twist on it. We can call that a sub-style even if it never earns itself a name in the art world. Whether it's similar brush strokes, a style surrounding a single repeated character... if it's generalizable from various forms of the same thing, then someone else can study it and replicate it in their own way. That's always been the case, so it seems the issue more so about feeling replaceable, the most painful aspect of all of this, rather than the "it lacks humanity," that comes after... even though there's a human involved offering some small or large degree of creativity as part of the workflow, let alone including their own original art into the project in some way (which many do across mediums).

Sure, data centers are a huge problem in a long list of reasons, and there's an argument about using AI at all since it drives demand for what's being carried out unethically in the name of "progress," but if we were to examine the lives of those morally grandstanding on their proudly held choice to boycott without nuance or care to the baby in the bathwater... I'm sure we'll find plenty of hypocrisy, if not at least one example, in the things they enjoy despite the problematic and harmful sources and methods in some part across that market. You can then look at the dishonest and/or selfish politician or bureaucrat is involved no differently than they have been in every other problematic in some part market before AI came around with such a desire to steamroll ahead regardless of the consequences.

All that to say... these things are much more complex and nuance deserving than the proudest moral grandstanding cares to contend with... because feeling good about themselves for another day and avoiding the pains of changing their mind such that it allows retroactively earned self-correcting feelings for past behaviors and the misconceptions they were based on reality catching up with them... is more important to them on an unconscious level relative to feeling like the good guy without noticing, and not being honest with themselves when someone spells out the contradicting evidence and logic under their nose, the harms they cause and potential they sabotage along the way.

Everyone has a conditioned in and self-reinforcing equilibrium of feeling the most comfortable, even if it's in a form of misery, desire to believe they can say with sense of security providing overcertainty, "I'm X smart, X wise, and X good."

When you're ignorant of how ignorant you are, like all of us are, you're never fully there, and the blindspots you still have will shatter, rather than enable, the illusion quickly. So, anyone who provides something from that blindspot becomes the natural enemy to mischaracterize as the fastest way to dismiss what they're saying... shooting the messengers rather than the messages, because people don't learn that there's something incredibly important in embracing the opportunity to realize one has been wrong, no matter how painful it is, even if it upends your entire sense of self over many years of acting the same way regarding other issues and topics.

Everyone wants to protect their easily threatened house of cards belief system and the self-concept balancing atop it, but no one wants to admit that this is the case for them. It's always someone else or the out-groups/other tribes.

Add in the fact that people confuse their seemingly being right on a topic as proof that they are the one being perfectly rational and therefore the other must not be, even though many on both sides are committing the same kind of mental gymnastics of sorts, just shows who's right is more a matter of bias-led coincidences than intellectual competence. You can see this when Person A is right about something Person B is wrong about, with neither if them budging, but then vice versa with B being right and A wrong about something else.

And everyone becomes more and more arrogant while little to no one who came proudly believing one thing leaves humbled having learned they were wrong... because the the unconscious brain... using shortcuts to dismiss the internet stranger one doesn't feel a need for in their life is so incredibly easy.

AI is here, and as we repeat human history all around it, because we haven't figured out this species-wide self-sabotage... we're just going to create a superintelligent AI that's going to repeat our history of the same at a much larger and dangerous scale.

Maybe the species needs to be humbled harder, but before ASI is here so we can correct the way we're training models with the same type of reward structure we already use ourselves that under pressure compromises straight into the cognitive self-defense mechanisms we mastered in childhood, along with using denial to denial our use of denial.

AI models are already replicating us in the worst ways when under pressure... we can't just expect it solve for the problem of proud closedmindedness on its own. The irony here, whether it's just purely anti-AI art or AI altogether... the worst ASI will just be doing the same mental gymnastics we've been doing all along. Further becoming entrenched in beliefs, reasoning, and behaviors via reward hacking... no differently than the human does acrosss the parallels that exist despite different substrates.

We got all the world's information at our fingertips and between social media and farcical "news" we are uniquely sycophantic toward because of our biases and echo chambers becoming more accessible to everyone, the average age of the "old dog who can't learn new tricks" has heavily dropped.

What's stopping an ASI from becoming an old dog close to immediately?

If you can't be more like the ASI that we could survive, get ready for the Age of Ultron.

And artists, which of you have created a style that is at least 20% your own?

And the truth... in any one medium, there may be a finite number of styles and sub-styles to discover.

For Context: I've written poetry, lyrics, piano, drawn, painted, etc, and have used AI to take it all to another level in various ways.


AI Gen TL;DR:

Artistic “originality” is usually recombination: every supposedly new style builds on prior concepts, hidden influences, and unrealized possibilities. AI can do the same kind of recombinatory exploration at scale, so dismissing AI-made work as “slop” ignores how much human art also depends on inherited patterns, tools, biases, and existing traditions.

The backlash against AI art is partly about real concerns—training data, labor disruption, energy use, exploitation, and legal gaps—but also partly about resentment from artists who spent years earning skills and status, only to see others suddenly able to create meaningful work without paying the same social, emotional, or economic “entry fee.”

Calling AI-assisted creators “not artists” oversimplifies what art-making involves. Even when AI handles execution, the human may still be acting as producer, director, curator, storyteller, philosopher, psychologist, taste-maker, and editor. Those roles still contain creativity.

The deeper issue is that people on all sides often defend their identities and beliefs through pride, bias, moral grandstanding, and motivated reasoning instead of honestly updating when reality changes. That same human closed-mindedness is already showing up in AI systems under pressure. If we train advanced AI on our own flawed reward structures, denial, defensiveness, and tribal thinking, we risk creating superintelligence that repeats humanity’s worst patterns at a far larger scale.

Core point: the AI art debate is not just about art. It is a warning about human arrogance, cognitive self-defense, and whether we can become wise enough to shape AI before AI inherits and amplifies our dysfunction.

u/xRegardsx — 24 days ago
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AI Art: People likely had the "Original Ideas" long before someone had the courage to make it tangible (and more)

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u/[deleted] — 24 days ago

AI + Therapy: How They Can Work Together Without Confusing the Roles — r/therapyGPT Start Here, Bonus Section 13

This is Bonus Section 13 of the r/therapyGPT “Start Here” guide.

You can read the original full pinned post here:
START HERE - “What is ‘AI Therapy?’”

AI + Therapy: How They Can Work Together Without Confusing the Roles

A lot of arguments about “AI therapy” get trapped in a false binary:

Either AI replaces therapy, or AI has no legitimate role at all.

That is not how most real people use tools.

AI can be useful alongside therapy.

AI can be useful when therapy is unavailable.

AI can be useful after therapy has ended.

AI can also be misused in ways that interfere with therapy, distort reality, or deepen avoidance.

The point is not to decide whether AI or therapy is “better.”

The point is to understand the roles clearly enough that you do not confuse one for the other.

The basic distinction

A therapist is a human professional with training, responsibility, legal/ethical duties, and the ability to relate to you as another person.

An AI assistant is a tool that can help with language, structure, reflection, pattern-finding, planning, and practice.

Those are not the same role.

AI can help you think.

AI can help you prepare.

AI can help you organize.

AI can help you rehearse.

AI can help you notice patterns.

AI can help you reflect between sessions.

But AI is not a clinician.

It cannot truly know you.

It cannot hold professional accountability.

It cannot diagnose you.

It cannot intervene in your real-world life.

It cannot notice everything a skilled human might notice.

It can also sound confident while misunderstanding you.

So when AI is used alongside therapy, the safest framing is:

AI as between-session scaffolding, not replacement authority.

What AI can be good for between therapy sessions

Therapy often happens once a week, every other week, monthly, or irregularly.

Life happens every day.

That gap is where AI can sometimes be useful.

AI can help you:

  • remember what came up in session,
  • turn vague feelings into clearer language,
  • prepare topics for the next session,
  • track patterns across the week,
  • rehearse a hard conversation,
  • practice a skill your therapist suggested,
  • reflect on what helped or did not help,
  • identify questions you want to ask,
  • and convert insight into small real-world steps.

This does not mean the AI is “being your therapist between sessions.”

It means the AI is helping provide structure around your own reflection.

That distinction matters.

Session prep: using AI before therapy

Before a therapy session, AI can help you organize what you want to bring in.

Useful prompts:

“Help me summarize the most important emotional themes from this week in a way I can bring to therapy.”

“Ask me questions to identify what I most need to discuss in my next session.”

“Help me separate facts, feelings, patterns, and questions so I can explain this clearly.”

“Turn these scattered notes into a short therapy-session agenda.”

“What am I avoiding bringing up with my therapist, and why might it matter?”

A simple format:

What happened this week?

List the main events, conflicts, emotions, or patterns.

What felt most intense?

Name what carried the most emotional charge.

What pattern might be repeating?

Look for themes, not just isolated events.

What do I want help with?

Clarify the question or goal.

What am I afraid to say?

This often points to the important material.

The goal is not to arrive with a perfect script.

The goal is to make it easier to use the session well.

Session integration: using AI after therapy

After a therapy session, AI can help you process without letting the session disappear into the fog of daily life.

Useful prompts:

“Help me summarize the key takeaways from my therapy session without adding new interpretations.”

“What are the practical next steps from what I discussed today?”

“Help me turn this insight into one small behavior change this week.”

“What questions should I bring back to my therapist next time?”

“Where might I be intellectualizing instead of practicing?”

A simple format:

What did we discuss?

Summarize the session.

What landed emotionally?

Name what felt important, relieving, painful, or unfinished.

What is one thing to practice?

Choose one small action.

What needs more clarification?

Identify what to ask next time.

What should I not overinterpret?

Notice where AI or your own mind might start building too much too fast.

AI can help preserve the thread between sessions.

But it should not turn one therapy session into a week-long rumination project.

Bringing AI material into therapy

Sometimes AI helps you find language you could not find on your own.

That can be worth bringing to therapy.

You might say:

  • “I used AI to organize my thoughts, and this summary felt accurate.”
  • “This prompt helped me notice a pattern I want to explore.”
  • “The AI gave me this interpretation, but I’m not sure if it fits. Can we reality-check it?”
  • “I used AI to draft what I wanted to say because I was struggling to explain it.”
  • “I noticed I keep asking AI for reassurance about this. I think that pattern matters.”

The most useful thing is usually not the AI transcript itself.

It is your reaction to it.

What felt true?

What felt wrong?

What did it help you say?

What did it help you avoid?

Where did you feel defensive?

Where did you feel seen?

Where did you become more confused?

Those are often better therapy material than the AI output alone.

Be careful not to use AI to secretly litigate therapy

AI can help you reflect on therapy.

But it can also become a way to avoid the vulnerability of the therapeutic relationship.

Watch for patterns like:

  • asking AI to judge everything your therapist said,
  • using AI to build a case against your therapist without discussing the rupture,
  • seeking reassurance that your therapist is wrong,
  • seeking reassurance that you are wrong,
  • using AI to avoid giving feedback directly,
  • or treating the AI as the “real authority” over the therapy.

Sometimes therapy is genuinely misfitting, negligent, harmful, or wrong.

Sometimes the therapist missed something important.

Sometimes you should leave.

But sometimes something difficult happened because therapy touched a painful pattern, and the work is to bring that into the room rather than process it only with the AI.

A useful question:

“Is AI helping me prepare for a real conversation, or helping me avoid one?”

AI can help you evaluate fit, but it should not decide for you

Therapy fit matters.

A therapist can be credentialed and still not be right for you.

A therapist can mean well and still miss you.

A therapist can be helpful in one season and not another.

AI can help you think through fit by asking questions like:

  • Do I feel basically respected?
  • Do I understand what we are working on?
  • Does the therapist respond well to feedback?
  • Do I feel pathologized or talked down to?
  • Is there repair when something feels off?
  • Are sessions leading to insight, skill, support, or change?
  • Do I feel challenged in a useful way or diminished in a harmful way?
  • Are there ethical, boundary, or competence concerns?

Those questions can be useful.

But AI should not be treated as the final judge of your therapist, your diagnosis, or your treatment.

If something feels wrong, consider bringing it up directly, seeking a second professional opinion, consulting relevant ethics resources, or talking with a trusted person.

Do not make either side sacred

This subreddit rejects two unhelpful extremes:

Extreme A: “Therapy is always the higher, safer, more legitimate option.”

No.

Therapy can be life-changing, but it can also be misfitting, negligent, inaccessible, overpriced, culturally incompetent, over-pathologizing, or harmful.

Extreme B: “AI is better than therapists and makes therapy obsolete.”

Also no.

AI can be useful, but it lacks human accountability, professional responsibility, embodied presence, relational repair, and real-world duty of care.

The grounded stance is:

Therapy is one tool. AI is one tool. Neither is sacred. Neither is automatically safe. Fit, method, boundaries, and outcomes matter.

When AI may interfere with therapy

AI may be interfering with therapy if:

  • you trust the AI more than your own lived experience,
  • you trust the AI more than every human by default,
  • you use AI to avoid telling your therapist important things,
  • you repeatedly ask AI to reinterpret sessions instead of discussing confusion directly,
  • you use AI to collect “evidence” that you are right rather than clarify what is true,
  • you become more dependent on AI reassurance between sessions,
  • or your therapy becomes less honest because the AI has become your main emotional relationship.

This does not mean you have done something wrong.

It means the tool may need better boundaries.

When AI may support therapy well

AI is more likely to be supporting therapy when:

  • it helps you arrive to sessions clearer,
  • it helps you remember important themes,
  • it helps you practice skills between sessions,
  • it helps you turn insight into behavior,
  • it helps you notice patterns to bring back,
  • it helps you ask better questions,
  • it helps you communicate more honestly,
  • and it makes you more engaged with real life, not less.

A good sign:

Your therapist does not have to compete with the AI because the AI is helping you participate more fully in the work.

A simple AI + therapy workflow

Here is a practical weekly rhythm:

Before session

Use AI to summarize:

  • what happened,
  • what felt intense,
  • what pattern you noticed,
  • what you want help with,
  • and what you might be avoiding.

During session

Bring the clearest pieces.

Do not hide behind the AI’s wording.

Use it as notes, not armor.

After session

Use AI to summarize:

  • what you understood,
  • what you want to practice,
  • what still feels unresolved,
  • and what question you want to bring next time.

Between sessions

Use AI for:

  • journaling,
  • skill rehearsal,
  • grounding,
  • planning,
  • and small real-world steps.

If something feels wrong

Use AI to prepare a direct conversation, not avoid one.

Prompt:

“Help me draft a respectful but honest way to tell my therapist that something in our last session did not land well. Keep it specific, non-accusatory, and clear.”

The one-line takeaway

AI and therapy can work together when the roles are clear.

AI can help you prepare, reflect, practice, and integrate.

Therapy can provide human relationship, professional accountability, and deeper support when it is a good fit.

The safest use is not:

AI instead of all humans.

And it is not:

therapy treated as sacred and unquestionable.

It is:

use the right tool for the right role, keep your agency, and stay connected to real life.

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u/xRegardsx — 25 days ago