r/AcrossTheSpider_Verse

I just finished Across the Spider-Verse and I am so frustrated. The movie really didn't do it for me.
First of all, what actually happened? Miles tries to go home but ends up in some other universe called Earth-42 because of a spider's DNA? Then he gets tied up by his uncle and an alternate version of himself who is the Prowler? I was so confused.
And don't get me started on the ending. The whole movie builds up to Miles saving his dad from the Spot, and then the movie just... ends? On a massive cliffhanger? We don't even know if his dad survives or not. Paying full price just to get half a story feels like a total letdown. They really ruined the whole experience for me.

I rewatched (Across the Spider-Verse) and I still love it. However, the only character I still don’t like is Spider-Punk, and I wanted to know if anyone else feels the same way. I feel like he doesn’t fit into the movie; even though there are thousands of variants, his seems way too over-the-top to me. Plus, it seems like he doesn’t even care about the greater good, since he helped Miles knowing that the entire Spider-Verse was in danger—all just to be “rebellious.” The Spider-Punk from the comics isn’t like that, so I don’t know if this is a bad adaptation or if he simply shouldn’t be a Spider-Man at all.

What do you guys think?

when people argue not every boy and girl who share screen time should be a couple that are against Miles x Gwen, I side eye hard cuz they jumped to ship him with the first black girl he made eye contact with, despite ALL the sweet moments he had with Gwen😭 Everyone just keeps looking at Gwen betraying Miles and saying she doesn't love Miles. But what they don't see is her trauma. HER DAD LITERALLY POINTED A GUN AT HER. Also Miguel and the spider society basically gr00med her. HE'S A GROWN MAN MANIPULATING A VULNERABLE TEENAGER FOR HIS OWN AGENDA! And Miles was in a different universe and even she was visiting him, she was in borrowed time. She wanted to tell him about the canon events but she wanted to have a fun time and not ruin her friendship with Miles. MARGO WAS BARELY THERE!!! SHE WAS THERE FOR 45 SECONDS!! HOBIE WAS ONLY THERE FOR 5 MINUTES!!! y'all just hate interracial relationships,.. smh...😒

EDIT: I'm a black person in an interracial relationship fyi so... i just hate to see the hate

EDIT AGAIN: also I keep seeing people use the word snowbunny when talking about Gwen in some comment sections and videos, and while I'm autistic and very bad at social cues, I can tell they're using it derogatorily and it just makes me sick, and people say racism and prejudice is gone...

Hey! I literally just got in here just so I can ask this question. You know how on the Spider-verse if a character is not on their own universe their atoms starts glitching?

At the very end of the ATSV, Miles gets to the universe 42 because his genes are combined with the spider that came from that universe. Here is the part I dont get, if Miles has DNA of both himself and the spider; why the hell does his atoms glitch on the universe 42? Isnt they supposed to adapt?

The lack of information I have while asking this question is whether that glitch is about DNA or not.
If its somehow about some other thing like soul or something, then it makes sense. But this way, I dont see no sense.

The video this is a tribute recreation right here

Miles is a Spider-Man who wants to prevent his canon event. What I didn't understand was that since the foundation of the Spider Society and present day, in the movie, had there been no other Spider-Man who faced a similar dilemma to save or not save the police captain? The possible scenarios are

1. For Spider-Men (at the Spider Society) whose 'police captain death' canon hadn't happened yet, each of them just accept their fate? Sounds like a stretch

2. A recruitment criteria for being in the Spider Society potentially could be that your canon events need to have happened already. But while Gwen's case of being an exception was shown, Pavitra Prabhakar was a Spider-Man whose police death canon happened afterwards. So the recruitment criteria theory gets ruled out (But then then what's the criteria? Coz some folks will have police officers close to them die in the future if not already. And they would rebel. Sure, not all, but Miles can't be the only rebel ever)

3. Miles was the first one to face a dilemma to rebel against the system. Sure. The Spider Society was a recently established organisation, and only a handful of Spider-Men had been recruited (across the infinite Spiderverse with infinite Spider-men - any number is too small in front of infinite), so he just happened to be the first guy to fight back. But if the Spiderverse is infinite, wouldn't there be more "rebels"? Anomalies or not. And since it is spread across the time dimension too, the Spiderverse would have rebels in the past who successfully rebelled (again, infinite timelines, infinite possibilities). What was Miguel's longer term plan here? To hunt people in the past, whose universes were clearly stable in present day? Or even if just the present, he should know he cannot even theoretically prevent all rebels

There had to have been others

There's something about Miguel's explanation that still doesn't add up to me.

The universe in which Miguel had supposedly "destroyed" that wasn't really his universe right? I think the reason it was destroyed was because he lived there when he wasn't supposed to. does that make sense?

I think it was because he lived in that universe that's why it collapsed. I think he never really returned to his original one because in the flashback we saw him in his spider costume. so maybe, he didn't just live there but also saved a shit ton of people making that universe have 2 spider man.

When in Miles case, he's not only planning to save his father but he is saving HIS father in HIS universe which is different from Miguels experience. Because Miguel didn't just save another spiders universe, but also lived in it.

So my question is, who was the spider that was protecting Miguel's original universe?

So maybe the universe couldn't properly accommodate Miguel's presence. Perhaps the multiverse eventually recognized that there were two Spider men from different realities existing in the same universe, with Miguel refusing to return to his original reality.

Miguel wasn't trying to prevent a canon, he lived in a universe where he isn't recognized as spider man. He was a foreigner an outsider who entered another universe, and interfered with its reality. He was an anomaly.

So, maybe the multiverse tried to correct the anomaly by forcing the two realities back into their proper states or maybe the two universes somehow began merging. And because reality couldn't sustain that overlap, the universe collapsed (THIS IS JUST A SPECULATION, OR A THEORY WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. THERE WAS NO PROOF OF ANY UNIVERSE BEING MERGED OR ANYTHING. just wanna clear this, lol).

Miles only wants to prevent a canon, unlike Miguel who caused a cross universe interferance due to his presence in a reality that isn't his.

Miles has a point but Miguel does too. Because I don't think Miguel actually knows what happens if a canon event really is broken.

Because when Gwen asked Miguel "Do you even know what happens if he breaks the canon?" the response we got was "Do you wanna find out?" that tells me Miguel doesn't know, or he knows but doesn't wanna explain it or something.

So like in conclusion, Miguel's experience isn't the same as what Miles is planning to do. What Miguel experienced isn't a canon event interferance but a cross universe type of disruption. Miles is trying to prevent a canon event from happening, whilst Miguel was trying to live in a universe he wasn't supposed to be living in.

Obviously this are all just speculation so yeah, lol. I just think Miguels situation isn't equivalent to Miles's situation.

But i can see where Miguel is coming from since he's already experienced it first hand. He's probably just staying cautious, and the trauma of destroying another spiders universe due to his doing is weighing on him.

You know? Like maybe he's just looking out, for the little guy.

Ps: I know my speculation is late, lol. i was 15 when i first watched across the spider-verse, I'm 18 now and rewatched the 2 movies. hopefully that says why this speculation is kinda late. sorry for the grammar too and punctuations if it's hard to read. I tried my best believe me, English isn't my first language so please excuse my grammar. I didn't wanna use AI to help me with my grammar since i don't want people thinking i got this from a tt, reel or somekind of AI, lol.

So I rewatched Spiderman across the spider verse and the more I think about Miguel’s argument, the less convinced I am that he’s completely right. Miles was never supposed to become Spider-Man in Earth-1610. The spider that bit him came from Earth-42 and ended up in his universe because of the multiverse/collider situation. He didn’t replace another Miles, travel to another universe, or take over someone else’s life. He became Spider-Man because the wrong spider ended up in his universe. So why does Miguel expect Miles to follow the exact same canon events as every other Spider-Man? Miguel’s situation was completely different. He went into another universe where a version of himself had died and took that person’s place. That universe collapsed. But Miles isn’t doing anything like that. He isn’t replacing another version of himself or taking over a universe that belonged to someone else. He’s living in his own universe. Then there’s The Spot. The spider being moved, Miles becoming Spider-Man, the collider accident, and Ohnn becoming the Spot all connect to each other. The Spot eventually becomes a major multiversal threat, so how do we know every problem in the Spider-Verse is caused by breaking canon events? When Mumbattan starts falling apart, how do we know the destruction is entirely because a canon event was disrupted and not because of the Spot and the collider? Maybe Miguel is right that Miles being an anomaly is causing instability, but that doesn’t necessarily mean Miles is responsible for the problem. He may be the result of something that happened before he even became Spider-Man. That’s also why I question the idea that Miles automatically has to experience the same canon events as every other Spider-Man. If he became Spider-Man through circumstances that were already different from the beginning, why assume his story has to follow the exact same path? if Miles becoming Spider-Man was already caused by something changing his universe before Miles ever had the chance to change anything himself, then didn’t the multiverse already interfere with Miles’ universe first? I understand why Miguel is terrified, especially after losing a universe himself. If he genuinely believes Jeff’s death is connected to the survival of Miles’ universe, I understand why he would do everything he could to stop Miles from interfering. But his experience involved replacing another version of himself in another universe, which is not the same situation Miles is in. My biggest question is simply: How do we actually know that Jeff has to die or Miles’ universe will collapse? Miguel believes it, and there is evidence that canon events happen repeatedly, but that doesn’t necessarily prove that every canon event is required for a universe to survive. Maybe Miguel is right. Maybe he’s wrong. I just think there are enough contradictions that his theory shouldn’t be treated as an absolute fact. And honestly, that’s why I don’t blame Miles for questioning Miguel. From Miles’ perspective, he’s being told that his dad has to die based on a theory that hasn’t been completely proven, and he has every reason to want to challenge that. To me, the conflict is really about fate vs. free will. Miguel believes Spider-Man has to accept the story he’s given, while Miles believes he should be able to change his own story. And personally, I side with Miles not because I know Miguel is completely wrong, but because I don’t think Miles should be expected to accept his dad’s death as unavoidable when nobody has actually proven that it has to happen. What do you guys think? Is Miguel actually right, or is his trauma making him interpret canon events as something more absolute than they really are? I guess my questions will be answered in the next movie I just had to rant.