No other Spider-man?

Miles is a Spider-Man who wants to prevent his canon event. What I didn't understand was that since the foundation of the Spider Society and present day, in the movie, had there been no other Spider-Man who faced a similar dilemma to save or not save the police captain? The possible scenarios are

  1. For Spider-Men (at the Spider Society) whose 'police captain death' canon hadn't happened yet, each of them just accept their fate? Sounds like a stretch

  2. A recruitment criteria for being in the Spider Society potentially could be that your canon events need to have happened already. But while Gwen's case of being an exception was shown, Pavitra Prabhakar was a Spider-Man whose police death canon happened afterwards. So the recruitment criteria theory gets ruled out (But then then what's the criteria? Coz some folks will have police officers close to them die in the future if not already. And they would rebel. Sure, not all, but Miles can't be the only rebel ever)

  3. Miles was the first one to face a dilemma to rebel against the system. Sure. The Spider Society was a recently established organisation, and only a handful of Spider-Men had been recruited (across the infinite Spiderverse with infinite Spider-men - any number is too small in front of infinite), so he just happened to be the first guy to fight back. But if the Spiderverse is infinite, wouldn't there be more "rebels"? Anomalies or not. And since it is spread across the time dimension too, the Spiderverse would have rebels in the past who successfully rebelled (again, infinite timelines, infinite possibilities). What was Miguel's longer term plan here? To hunt people in the past, whose universes were clearly stable in present day? Or even if just the present, he should know he cannot even theoretically prevent all rebels

There had to have been others

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u/burakudoctor — 8 days ago

Paradox

I apologise in advance if this has been discussed before. But this is my theory on the ending of OPM

God corrupts people (forming the 'contract') when there's a touch. My personal theory is that towards the end of the series, when God finally "attacks" humanity - when the final battle comes, he will somehow (when the stakes are getting higher) corrupt Genos (who is obsessed with getting stronger) by appearing in the form of Saitama himself. Real Saitama will somehow fix it (or perhaps there will be a cost too heavy. Most likely, Saitama will be pissed in the form he is when his roof gets broken. Personal theory)

But anyway, when we do reach God vs Saitama, how is Saitama supposed to defeat God? Because a punch entails touch, which entails God's corruption (let's not get technical that Saitama wears gloves). And Saitama's pain (as the theme of the series) has always been his desire for the cure of his depression and his need for adrenaline. Now, if Saitama doesn't fight back, God will destroy everything. So Saitama must engage. Punching has an inherent problem (which I just mentioned). Even if we set that aside, God's fight will give Saitama adrenaline and drive (like in the subterranean dream) - thus fulfilling the "contract" by execution (than touch followed by grant of wish). There will be some 5D chess on how to defeat God once and for all

So how can Saitama defeat a villain her cannot touch?

The only explanation I can think of is that Saitama will get headstrong more than God. If God is a negative character, Saitama will transcend humanity (or something related, and purify God). Or that his Punch will convert God then the other way around (because Saitama realises his depression got cured long back. The real cure was the friends we made along the way). This theory (in my personal opinion) gives a lot of meaning to the relationships formed in the series, and can incorporate the deadpan elements of ONE.

What are your takes?

P.S. I'm keen to understand the backstory of God. Who God is, what made him (assuming he's a 'him' and a 'he') the way he is, and how did he get his powers

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u/burakudoctor — 13 days ago

Miles' moustache

Miles' moustache growing through the facemask cloth the first time is plausible, although highly improbable. Perhaps not plausible but impossible

But removing the mask and then hair by hair penetrating the fibers of the mask multiple times? (i am sure the moustache wouldn't have had been a one off appearance in public). How is that possible?

The movie never addressed this power of Miles

This, coupled with Gwen's hair incident, Peter 1610 and Peter B. Parker having different colored hair, Miles' hair braided in Earth 42, Pavitra Prabhakar showing off his hair - I think I'm onto something about a larger hair related theme

Perhaps they will defeat Spot using some sort of a "bald spot"

(There was no flair for shitposting) Edit: Typo

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u/burakudoctor — 2 months ago

Peter B. Parker

I just love the name Peter B. Parker. The layers it has are crazy

First, it establishes that this Peter is not THE Peter. THE Peter died by the hands of Kingpin. THE Peter was our original Peter in the movie. The OG Peter. He punched the car which Doc Oc flung at him in the cafe (Showing he never lost focus as Tobey did in S2). He had the upside down kiss with MJ. He stopped the train. He wasn't just any Peter. He wasn't just A Peter. He was Peter A. Not by name, but by stature

But in a tragedy that moved everyone, he died. And then came along Peter B. Parker. In the alphabet, B come after A. It often is that B is called lesser than A (think quality grades). That Peter B. Parker is 2nd. A carbon copy. And that Peter A is the 1st and the best. And it's reinforced by showing us how Peter B. Parker's personal life was a mess and falling apart (cue in the sweatpants). But that's not the entire story

Peter B. Parker has his arc. He mentors Miles (He's a pretty good mentor). He turns his own life around. He has Mayday with MJ. And he's on the team to save Miles in the 3rd movie. So he's not just a discarded-bottom-of-the-pile B Peter. B stands for Ben. Uncle Ben. Who said some of the most important last words in the Spider-Man universe

He can never be A. Because A was A. B was introduced AFTER A (Logically so). But the movies lifted B up significantly. He cannot be A, but anyone calling him a Temu Spider-Man is WRONG. He's a top tier B

And even if one wants to hypothetically reject the claim that he is worse than the Spider-Man who died, one is open to do that. The movies never explicitly explained what the B. stands for. So view it however you like. I like seeing it from both angles. That he's not the same quality grade as the Peter who died (Who in his very first interaction with Miles told him he'd mentor him vs. Peter B. who didn't want to be a mentor at all). But also that looking at him purely that way is too hard on him. So we can just let him be the Peter who's carrying uncle Benjamin's name, and has his own identity, independent of other Peters

Thank God uncle Ben wasn't named uncle Jen. "Peter J. Parker" doesn't quite have the same ring to it /s

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u/burakudoctor — 2 months ago

Channing Tatum in Doomsday

What if we've been intentionally mislead (embedded) because of Channing Tatum's Gambit cameo in D&W?

Lord & Miller directed 21-22 Jump Street. And they are directing the Spiderverse movies. But that's not the only connection between JS and Spiderverse. In 22 JS, during the library escape sequence, Johan Hill explicitly says that he isn't Spider-Man, implying Channing Tatum is Spider-Man

A few seconds later, we literally get Channing Tatum in a Spiderman pose. So what if Sony/L&M and Marvel made a deal to show Channing Tatum as Spider-Man in Doomsday as a variant?

I think this angle needs to be explored. Not because of its plausibility, but because of its absurdity

(There was no flair for Shitposting)

u/burakudoctor — 2 months ago

Is this a plot inconsistency or am I missing something?

Why can't Miguel use his watch to go to a dimension where his family is and he isn't? And if he can't because that universe will collapse, then how is the spider society possible in the first place? A place where so many beings from other dimensions are there for extended periods

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Either the watch should work, or it shouldn't. Which is it?!

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u/burakudoctor — 2 months ago

Is this a plot inconsistency or am I missing something?

Why can't Miguel use his watch to go to a dimension where his family is and he isn't? And if he can't because that universe will collapse, then how is the spider-society possible in the first place? A place where so many beings from other dimensions are there for extended periods

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Either the watch works, or it doesn't. Which is it!?

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u/burakudoctor — 2 months ago