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Do you think that Miles' dad dying won't be the canon event for his universe?

A canon event just has to be an impactful moment in a Spider-Man's life and can theoretically be anything. It doesn't have to be someone dying.

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u/p-Star_07 — 4 hours ago

Why does there is a Spiderman comics in the Miles Morales' movie ?

Spoiler.

I just watched the movie again and only tilt here that Miles was reading a Spiderman comics after discovering his powers. But everyone discovered the true identity of Peter only after his death. The first time I just thought someone had done a spiderman comics to surf on his buzz, but the informations on Peter (the bit we had) was too accurate to be imaginated by a Spidey fan.

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u/pangalou — 11 hours ago

Rio Morales will die (almost certain)

Was looking over some theories online about how in this franchise Miles and Gwen are linked in ways that won't be fully explained until Beyond The Spiderverse releases. Have Also seen some well formulated theories on how their universes will collide based upon imagery in both films (Into and Across).

Miles's statement "we're the same...in the important ways" always stuck out to me when comparing the characters.

Gwen Stacy's mother is Helen Stacy (née Vogel) in the main Marvel Comics continuity (Earth-616). In these comics, Helen dies from cancer early in Gwen's childhood, leaving her to be raised by her father, Captain George Stacy.

In the Spider-Gwen comics (Earth-65), her mother's maiden name is Helen Carmichael. Depending on the universe, her fate shifts; in some Ultimate Comics, she abandons the family, while In The Spider-Verse movies, she is also presumed to have passed away or been absent early on.

Depending upon whether or not this is confirmed Both Gwen and Miles having Mothers who've passed and Father's who are/were police captains seems like an obvious route for the writers to take.

Beyond The Spiderverse is confirmed to be saddest of the trilogy which makes Loss a given, Miles's mother passing would be the unexpected curveball to the audience worrying about Jeff's mortality. Miles's struggle to grieve with the loss of his mother may be partly relieved through his partner (Gwen) having gone through the same thing when she was younger, which has yet to covered in this franchise.

Maybe it's a long shot based upon too many potentials. But just a theory from me.

u/Khalifah96 — 1 day ago

I Forgot How Much I Love These Movies

I rewatched Into The Spider-Verse and FINALLY watched Across the Spider-Verse and man do I adore these movies.

One thing I really like is OG Peter's/Miles' Doc Oc Olivia "Liv" Octavious I don't know if it was the fact its the first female Doc Oc I've seen or if its the way her additional arms function with compressing air and stuff but she always seemed like 5x cooler than the average Doc Oc.

That's all, just really an appreciation post

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Why are both the advanced suit 1.0 and 2.0 here?

Just noticed that the versions of PS4 Spider-Man appearing throughout ATSV aren't the same suit (but still both PS4 Peter). Any possible explanation for this, since they're both from 1048?

u/legomovies64 — 3 days ago

Rio Morales

I was rewatching The Spiderman Within recently and noticed a potential connection to how the upcoming movie might end. While this short film was primarily made to highlight Miles' mental health and panic attacks it might also contain a subconscious foreshadowing of his mother's death. Regarding the shadow monster from his sleep paralysis, the giant spider shape seems to symbolize deep-seated guilt rather than just being a visual choice. Subconsciously, Miles likely feels that his bite is the root cause of the current danger. Because he became Spider-Man, The Spot is now hunting his family and the nightmare reflects that realization. Another notable detail is the absence of his mother. During the entire nightmare sequence and its aftermath, Rio is completely missing. When Miles snaps out of the paralysis, he does not seek comfort from her. Instead, he leaves the room for a late-night walk with Jefferson. In ATSV, Miles insists he can save both his father and the multiverse. However, this short film might be hinting that saving everyone is impossible. My theory is that in BTSV, Miles will successfully alter the canon to protect Jefferson, but due to the universe demanding balance, Rio will die instead. This outcome would align with the Ultimate Marvel comics source material. Through this lens, Miles walking with his father at the end takes on a different meaning. His subconscious might already be clinging to the parent he can save, while implicitly mourning the absence of his mother.

Of course, it is understandable that this theory might be a bit of a stretch. The entire core theme of the Spider-Verse trilogy explicitly tells us that you can change anything, even destiny itself, and write your own story. But looking at the short film from this alternative angle is still an interesting thought experiment. What do you guys think?

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u/Intelligent-Path1318 — 3 days ago

Beyond the Spiderverse theory

so I’ve been overthinking the ending of Across the Spider-Verse and hit a total brick wall regarding Miles and Gwen's future.

Even if we assume Miguel is totally full of it about "Canon Events" (which he probably is), the actual mechanical rules of the multiverse still stand: if you stay in another dimension for too long, your atoms glitch out and the local reality starts to collapse.

If that rule doesn't magically disappear, Miles and Gwen are basically doomed to the most agonizing, impossible long-distance relationship ever.

Think about how stressful that would actually be. Even with Hobie’s bootleg watch letting them travel back and forth, they’d have a literal digital countdown timer ticking on their wrists every single time they see each other. They could never move in together, share a normal life, or just casually hang out on a weekend without worrying about their bodies ripping apart and melting the neighborhood.
It fits that brutal Spider-Man curse perfectly where saving the world means sacrificing your own personal happiness.

What if they successfully defeat the Spider-Society next year, but their "reward" is just being stuck as digital ghosts in each other's lives, only able to visit for a few hours a week to keep their home worlds from blowing up?

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u/TheBottleGuy580 — 3 days ago

Why didn't Miguel O'Hara actually saw Mayday B Parker as an anamoly as well?

Granted, Peter B did have his canon event, but the existence of Mayday shouldn't even happen; she was the result of Peter B interacting with the anomaly that is Miles Morales (in Miguel's eyes), so by extension, MAYDAY shouldn't even exist

(Also, I wonder how Miguel felt about the original Spider-Verse gang keeping objects from Miles' dimension)

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u/Doodleware — 4 days ago

Peter B. Parker

I just love the name Peter B. Parker. The layers it has are crazy

First, it establishes that this Peter is not THE Peter. THE Peter died by the hands of Kingpin. THE Peter was our original Peter in the movie. The OG Peter. He punched the car which Doc Oc flung at him in the cafe (Showing he never lost focus as Tobey did in S2). He had the upside down kiss with MJ. He stopped the train. He wasn't just any Peter. He wasn't just A Peter. He was Peter A. Not by name, but by stature

But in a tragedy that moved everyone, he died. And then came along Peter B. Parker. In the alphabet, B come after A. It often is that B is called lesser than A (think quality grades). That Peter B. Parker is 2nd. A carbon copy. And that Peter A is the 1st and the best. And it's reinforced by showing us how Peter B. Parker's personal life was a mess and falling apart (cue in the sweatpants). But that's not the entire story

Peter B. Parker has his arc. He mentors Miles (He's a pretty good mentor). He turns his own life around. He has Mayday with MJ. And he's on the team to save Miles in the 3rd movie. So he's not just a discarded-bottom-of-the-pile B Peter. B stands for Ben. Uncle Ben. Who said some of the most important last words in the Spider-Man universe

He can never be A. Because A was A. B was introduced AFTER A (Logically so). But the movies lifted B up significantly. He cannot be A, but anyone calling him a Temu Spider-Man is WRONG. He's a top tier B

And even if one wants to hypothetically reject the claim that he is worse than the Spider-Man who died, one is open to do that. The movies never explicitly explained what the B. stands for. So view it however you like. I like seeing it from both angles. That he's not the same quality grade as the Peter who died (Who in his very first interaction with Miles told him he'd mentor him vs. Peter B. who didn't want to be a mentor at all). But also that looking at him purely that way is too hard on him. So we can just let him be the Peter who's carrying uncle Benjamin's name, and has his own identity, independent of other Peters

Thank God uncle Ben wasn't named uncle Jen. "Peter J. Parker" doesn't quite have the same ring to it /s

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u/burakudoctor — 4 days ago

Why was Spider-Ham not in Across

What do you all believe will end up being the in-universe reason for Spider-Ham not being prevalent in Across the Spider-Verse besides the end. I know there is speculation that John Mulaney wasn’t able to voice him at that time, but what will the movies explain? We can also see that he does have a Spider-Society watch so that makes it more confusing.

u/ThatMemeGuy2003 — 5 days ago
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I like ATSV Ben Reilly, but I do wish he was more like ACTUAL comic Ben.

So I gave him a more typical Spider-Man voice! Cristopher Daniel Barnes, to be precise.

The audio used is from Spider-Man: Edge of Time, and the 1994 animated series.

u/Financial-Touch3840 — 4 days ago

Questions with one of the BTSV footage descriptions I found

So I was reading through BTSV descriptions and found this "Other striking images include Gwen Stacy crossing an interdimensional bridge" What could this mean? 😭 Is it her walking between universes ? Im sorry im just kind of confused and want to hear on what you guys think 👍 ALSO new theory, I now think the teaser is coming out in August, I did some calculations and basically the teaser trailer for Across the spiderverse was in December 2021 with the previous release date being in October 2022, thats 10 months apart. For August 2026 to June 2027 thats 10 months apart as well. I probably could be wrong. Also adding on to this Miles' birthday is in August, so possibly August 3rd? POSSIBLY. Brand new day could have a sneak peek for BTSV but this is all just a guess in what could happen. I've never commented on here (Reddit overall) in a while 💔.

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u/No_Set1668 — 3 days ago
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[OC] My newest drawing of Miles

Miles’ suit from the first movie is still my favorite. It’s been a long time since I drew him, and I wanted to practice drawing cityscapes more so this was a great way to start. I still need some more practice, but I think it turned out pretty well

u/MekkaKaiju — 4 days ago