r/AgendaHotel

This argument is genuinely the laziest fucking strawman I have ever seen. Valentino is still alive because he's an actual character with plot armor who Viv is obviously not gonna kill off that easily.

Do the math people. Valentino is obviously not the only rapist in Hell. About 1 in 5 people AND CHILDREN are sexually assaulted, there are most likely millions of perpetrators in Hell at this point. Vox says thousands of sinners were killed in each Extermination (I feel like it should be even more than that), therefore TONS of rapists, sex offenders, child predators, etc had to have died in the Extermination by default. It's just that simple. Mfs will do mental gymnastics to try and go against the obvious math that Adam was in fact killing rapists. It's embarrassing. Do better Adam haters.

"The point is Adam isn't going on some heroic crusade" nobody fucking said he was?? 😭 just because Adam kills genuinely awful people doesn't mean we're saying he's a completely good guy and justified. We're just pointing out the fact he's definitely killed many genuinely horrible people. There's a difference. Get that through your head.

"Why are so many overlords still alive" The overlords hide out in their high security ass buildings. Adam clearly isn't made aware of Hell's hierarchy, and wouldn't going after specific people defeat the whole purpose of calling it population control? Y'all are dumb. There are plenty of sinners running around the streets every Extermination, we're shown this. Why TF would the Exorcists waste their time breaking into people's homes to go after specific people?? At that point it's not population control it's fucking bounty hunting, y'all are losing the plot. Not to mention they could be breaking into the homes of Hellborn by accident so that would be a waste of time and might get them in trouble.

Adam is going off what he is told, same as Sera. He believes if a soul is in Hell, then they deserve eternal punishment by God's own decision. Who is he to question that? Especially if he is constantly validated in his beliefs by the people above him. Adam haters treat him like he's the sole evil in Heaven and it's genuinely so stupid. He's a victim of Heaven's system, just like Sera, Lute, and the other Exorcists. I stand by that.

"Adam is scared to go after actually powerful overlords and chooses easy prey" you mean like how he didn't hesitate to attack full power Alastor and how his Exorcists attacked Carmilla when she made the mistake of being outside during the Extermination? 💀 stfu. This literally proves that Adam doesn't deliberately spare overlords or go after only weak sinners. He goes after what's in front of him, even taking out the big threat (Alastor) before going after the normal cannibals. Divine rule says all these souls deserve eternal damnation, so Adam goes after every target with equal determination. This specific anti Adam argument is SO fucking stupid and has to ignore all context and logic to work. I will not allow this false slander against my husband and that's that.

Adam I love you and you mean the world to me I will forever defend you against the dumbass haters 💛💛💛💛

Mods istg if you take this down for defending genocide- I'M NOT DEFENDING THE EXTERMINATIONS I'M JUST EXPLAINING SOMETHING ABOUT THEM!!!

I love you Adam :3

3/4 of these characters aren't even the crulest in their verse. Val's outdone by Alastor, Jax by episode 8 Caine and Striker by Crimson.

But 3/4 are mass murderers and Jax is a annoying jerkass who's slightly mellowed out. The fact he has more than Striker is CRAZY.

Ive heard plenty of theories on why Alastor is so pale as a sinner. Rosie kept him in the basement and he wasn’t allowed to see the Sun. Hell is just weird like that. But truly, honestly, think about that. Pentious, formerly Pendleton, became black in hell. While Alastor was very very pale. Now, in season 2, Alastor is darker, I hear you say. Well here’s the thing, PENTIOUS is GONE. He’s redeemed! And he’s NOT BLACK, HES PURPLE. THEY DESATURATED HIM. And ALASTOR is able to regain some of his melanin. PENTIOUS LOST HIS SOURCE OF MELANIN and now is REVERTING to pale! You see, in season two, we see a flashback of Alastor BEFORE he met PENTIOUS. And he’s DARKER. You might say, well, uh dude, they were using the season 2 design it was a retcon. But he was wearing his SEASON ONE OUTFIT WITHOUT HIS SEASON 1 MELANIN DEPRIVATION?? We also never SEEEEEE PENTIOUS when he first got to hell! MAYBE he was just as PALE as Alastor was in season 1 and STOLE IT FROM ALASTOR OVER TIME???

what if Adam was actually allowed to use 100% of his power by the writers?

Is this inconsistent character writing? Or is Sera the only lesbian worth her time?

Doesn’t everyone think she is stupid? But suddenly when she says Vox is the strongest sinner everyone is like “oh shit it’s true!” It’s really funny because the people of Hell spend their time mocking the Morningstars but suddenly Charlie’s words hold some weight in this particular instance.

I understand she probably has more respect form her people post season 1, but seriously this is like a celebrity giving an endorsement to a politician, who actually cares?

Vaggi spent all of season 1 skpetical and untrustworthy of him, but after his role in the season 1 finale, she clearly has warmed up to him, hugging him and calling him "Al" like an affectionate nickname in season 2. While we know Husk is aware that Alastor's on Rosie's leash, it doesn't seem like he's aware that Rosie is the reason he's helping the hotel. From their POV, he fought Adam solely to protect them, then let himself be captured by Vox while saving Niffty and Husk and finally got Rosie to help them stop the explosion. It'll be tough to see how they react if/when he turns on them (Lucifer will probably go Jax mode thinking he was right to hate him)

Why are we supposed to think he’s a good guy when he trespassed into Adam’s home, targeted Eve, the youngest and most vulnerable person in Eden, “convinced” her to eat the apple when she couldn’t possibly know better, and the caused her life to get objectively worse?

If they thought they were doing something good, why not offer it to both Adam and Eve or tell the Angels what they were doing? I am certain Lilith knew bad shit would happen with the apple and she intentionally tried to fuck up Adam and Eve’s lives because she was mad she got replaced.

People suggest actually GOOD ideas for the show but half the fandom doesn't want good ideas they want hot yaoi fanfics and "cute" Stolas family fluff and that's it.

Yeah Via COULD become part of the Stolitz BS but have you ever thought of doing something interesting with her character and do anything else?

Velvette and Lute literally going to have to share a season in season 4. No shade to them, but I feel like they are objectively steps down from Adam and Vox in terms of threat level. Charlie still having to fear Lvl 1 female crooks that late in the game seems kind of lame.

Vivziepop will really need to jump through some hoops to give them some aura to be legitimate threats. I hope it is well written and not contrived.

It was just there to trick the audience into thinking she was having an arc. What is ironic is she made her name more similar to what Adam named her after. Why not go for Vagatha or Vagalicious?

“She is reclaiming her identity” stfu she is still just tethered to Charlie and the Hotel. She is just slightly more up the totem pole in running the Hotel.

If Vaggie wanted to hide her identity and connection to Adam for the get go, why the fuck didn’t she just give herself a new name the second she got dumped in Hell and met Charlie? Is she stupid?

Is this another case of telling and not showing in Hazbin Hotel? Did Charlie just want a special title without doing anything to earn it?

Yes I like GreedyGuitar, it's the ONLY Adam ship I fuck with besides me x Adam cuz we all know that one is the best Adam ship