alr gng, say one nice thing about your least favorite character

And no, you can't do some reverse psychology shit such as Adam being your least favorite character and saying "I liked Adam when he died" or hating Charlie and being like "I liked Charlie when she lost" or something. It has to actually be nice.

Lucifraud fuck you I hate your bitch ass, buuuut your part in VOX POPULI was straight up awesome

u/FNAF_Professor — 2 days ago

wedding gift!

For my lovely friend u/XxThe_HumanxX their OC's name is Tazi but I wrote the wrong name wtv 💔 sorry it took so long!! Oh and Ella's there too lol

u/FNAF_Professor — 2 days ago
▲ 13 r/HellaverseShips+1 crossposts

💕 Welcome to the Hellaverse Shipping Community! 💕

Welcome to our little corner of the Hellaverse!

This subreddit was created for fans of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss who love talking about ships, sharing fanart, writing headcanons, discussing character dynamics, and just having fun with the characters we love!

All kinds of ships are welcome within our community guidelines, including canon ships, rarepairs, crackships, OC × canon, self insert x canon, yumeshipping, self shipping, poly ships, and plenty more!

At the same time, this community has some firm boundaries regarding content that we don’t allow. Incest, pedophilic/child × adult shipping, bestiality, explicit sexual content, and other prohibited material are not permitted here. Please check the rules before posting!

But most importantly, have fun! Whether you’re here to gush over your OTP, defend your rarepair, post your OC, share a ridiculous crackship, or simply admire some cute fanart, we’re happy to have you here ♥︎

Feel free to introduce yourself and your favorite Hellaverse ships in the comments! Up above are some of my favorite ships: HeartSong (my self insert x Adam, art by me), FallenStar (art by @Hyu_aArt on X), MadMaid (art by @T4NG3RINEGUY on X), RadioSilence (art by @J3LLYB34NZ24 on X), platonic GuitarSpear, Velissa, FallenWings, GlamSpear (art by @N17ld1kqeD95385 on X), platonic StaticDoll, platonic MothDoll, queerplatonic Vees (art by @Dessa_nya on X), platonic SeraPent, platonic RainbowSnake, GreedyGuitar, Verosika x Velvette (art by @radvelvetycakes on X), and KendraWire (art by @jasperalterr on X)!

u/FNAF_Professor — 4 days ago
▲ 17 r/OkBuddyHelluvaHotel+1 crossposts

In defense of Charlie

Yes this is my video lol i made it a while ago, don't mind the crappy editing

You better be pleased with me backgroundrich mod guy I'm posting something in favor of your agenda

Also disclaimer I made this a few months ago so if I said anything you know for a fact isn't true, I probably didn't figure that out until after I made the video

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u/FNAF_Professor — 5 days ago

Show me the ships there's nothing inherently wrong with but you still dislike (and tell me why)

TW: mentions of abuse and SA

RadioApple: I can't understand why this ship is so popular, it's just really boring and corny to me. A lot of RadioApple shippers seem to greatly mischaracterize the two in order for the ship to work (AUs are fine ofc), and it's not even a fun enemies to lovers trope imo. They don't like each other in any way, they're just two grumpy prideful jackasses that wanna get one over the other every chance they get.

RadioJoy: I simply don't like the idea of shipping a sweet character with someone who's definitely gonna treat them like shit. If you have an AU where Emily "fixes" Alastor or something then ok, fine, but canonically I don't think Alastor would treat Emily well at all. I've also seen a lot of RadioJoy shippers make Emily secretly just as sadistic as Alastor which isn't my cup of tea, just let a sweetheart be a sweetheart 💔

AdamsApple: I fucking hate this ship gng 🫩 it's mostly because SO much of the AdamsApple art I've seen is always Lucifer tying Adam up and abusing him or something absolutely disgusting. It's genuinely shocking how much art like that you can find of this ship, I just happened to find this nice one. That's the main reason I started to really hate it, but I also dislike it because of my personal interpretation of Adam and Lucifer's relationship. Lucifer was way older and more knowledgeable than the humans, and he was an angel; a figure whom would be seen as trustworthy to the humans. He took advantage of Adam and Eve and tricked them into letting evil into the Earth. There's no way Lucifer didn't know that he was taking advantage of their trust. So yeah it makes me uncomfortable to imagine Adam dating the guy who tricked him and his wife and forever doomed their children.

StaticBelle: Same as AdamsApple, I don't think I've seen a single fanart depicting an actual healthy romantic relationship between them except this one (and this art might even be platonic so who knows), it's always Vox abusing Charlie and treating her in a really... Predatory way. Now look I get shipping toxic stuff for the interesting angst, like I ship FallenWings cuz I like the idea of Lute and Vaggi being bitter exes, but there's a difference between toxic ships for exploring a dynamic and straight up fetishizing abuse, which is what most StaticBelle stuff I've seen does. All the toxic fetishization of it just completely ruined any appeal I could've had for the ship. Also can anyone tell me why Charlie is called Belle in this ship? How is Charlie a Belle?

GuitarQueen: Same reasoning as AdamsApple tbh, but it's because in my AU, I go by what The Medieval Myth (Midrash Abkir & The Zohar) says Lilith did to Adam (in case you don't know, Lilith rapes Adam in his sleep). So yeah naturally, seeing this ship makes me uncomfortable, plus the fact she helped Lucifer trick Eve and later tried to lead a rebellion against Heaven so I don't think Adam would really wanna get with her again; matter of fact I don't think Lilith and Adam ever loved each other at all. But other than that I'm pretty much ok with the ship- except for the fact Adam is MINE!

HolyBlades: This ship makes me INSANELY uncomfortable. The idea of someone having a crush on some guy and then going after the guy's kid after he dies does NOT sit right with me. And yes ik Abel is way older than Lute and they are closer in age than she and Adam are, but tbh mentally Lute acts way older than him. Their relationship could also very easily become abusive judging by how Lute treats Abel at the moment. Maybe they'll get better but rn the idea of it makes me really uncomfortable. Especially the fanart. Most of it isn't making it out to be the relationship it could be (because it DOES have the potential to be a healthy relationship), they're just fetishizing Lute seeing Abel as a replacement for Adam and trying to get with him. I literally saw a fucking comic where Lute rapes Abel in order to "toughen him up like Adam", so yeah that completely killed any sort of enjoyment I could have for the ship.

CherriSnake: Never understood the appeal of this ship tbh, it came out of nowhere and felt so forced, especially in season one (the only reason it didn't feel forced in season two is probably because they were seperated). Pure fan service imo. You have all these other people Pentious actually has a deep and interesting dynamic with (talking about Emily and Sera, but I don't ship Pentious with either of them. I'm a Baxtious enjoyer), but no, we're shipping him with Cherri 💀 and tbh I really dislike Cherri Bomb in season one. She disregarded Angel Dust when he tried to vent about his day, then proceeded to peer pressure him into doing drugs with her despite him saying he didn't want to. She also let Pentious get dragged into the Sex Room and possibly SA'd even when he was very obviously screaming for help?? She was an absolutely awful friend and Pentious deserves way better. I liked her so much more in the pilot, it felt like she actually cared about her friends. Though Cherri did step up a lot better in season two, I enjoyed watching her and Husk become friends.

GuitarSpear: now I know what you're all thinking, no I don't dislike the ship JUST because I like Adam 🙄 imo they're very not good for each other. They bring out the worst in each other in fact. Adam seems to be the one to have taught Lute the violent behavior and beliefs she knows, and Lute constantly enables and encourages Adam's shitty behavior. Realistically they both need someone to help them heal, being with each other would just make them worse. I also really wanted Lute to be lesbian, and making her in love with Adam cheapens her character imo. Lute is ultimately a victim of Heaven's system. They created her to be a killer and then basically tossed her aside when they decided there was a better way, and completely disregard her feelings. I think it would be SO much more interesting if Lute was motivated by being terrified of losing the purpose she was created for and is trying to desperately hold onto the beliefs she was taught by her closest friend (Lute being a confused lesbian would make a lot of sense and be really interesting. Adam was her absolute best friend and she doesn't seem to do much socializing outside of him. It would make sense her brain confused this deep sense of care for him with "oh I must be in love with him" because she's never really bonded with anyone else, especially since she seems to harbor internalized homophobia). But in the show, it feels more like she's portrayed as "Lute loved Adam and she's mad he's dead so therefore she wants to kill everyone". Now obviously revenge can still be a motivator for her, but I don't think the show is focusing on the tragedy of Lute's position as much as it should. It would also make more sense for her primary motivator to be holding onto her beliefs rather than just avenging Adam if she's gonna be a slow burn villain like the show intends. But that's just how I would write her, she's still interesting nonetheless.

No hate to anyone who ships these, these are just my opinions!! Please don't hate on anyone in the comments either, some of y'all gotta learn to respect some people just ain't gonna like your ship. All the art is super cute btw, no hate to the artists!

u/FNAF_Professor — 8 days ago

Show me the ships there's nothing inherently wrong with but you still dislike (and tell me why)

TW: mentions of abuse and SA

RadioApple: I can't understand why this ship is so popular, it's just really boring and corny to me. A lot of RadioApple shippers seem to greatly mischaracterize the two in order for the ship to work (AUs are fine ofc), and it's not even a fun enemies to lovers trope imo. They don't like each other in any way, they're just two grumpy prideful jackasses that wanna get one over the other every chance they get.

RadioJoy: I simply don't like the idea of shipping a sweet character with someone who's definitely gonna treat them like shit. If you have an AU where Emily "fixes" Alastor or something then ok, fine, but canonically I don't think Alastor would treat Emily well at all. I've also seen a lot of RadioJoy shippers make Emily secretly just as sadistic as Alastor which isn't my cup of tea, just let a sweetheart be a sweetheart 💔

AdamsApple: I fucking hate this ship gng 🫩 it's mostly because SO much of the AdamsApple art I've seen is always Lucifer tying Adam up and abusing him or something absolutely disgusting. It's genuinely shocking how much art like that you can find of this ship, I just happened to find this nice one. That's the main reason I started to really hate it, but I also dislike it because of my personal interpretation of Adam and Lucifer's relationship. Lucifer was way older and more knowledgeable than the humans, and he was an angel; a figure whom would be seen as trustworthy to the humans. He took advantage of Adam and Eve and tricked them into letting evil into the Earth. There's no way Lucifer didn't know that he was taking advantage of their trust. So yeah it makes me uncomfortable to imagine Adam dating the guy who tricked him and his wife and forever doomed their children.

StaticBelle: Same as AdamsApple, I don't think I've seen a single fanart depicting an actual healthy romantic relationship between them except this one (and this art might even be platonic so who knows), it's always Vox abusing Charlie and treating her in a really... Predatory way. Now look I get shipping toxic stuff for the interesting angst, like I ship FallenWings cuz I like the idea of Lute and Vaggi being bitter exes, but there's a difference between toxic ships for exploring a dynamic and straight up fetishizing abuse, which is what most StaticBelle stuff I've seen does. All the toxic fetishization of it just completely ruined any appeal I could've had for the ship.

GuitarQueen: Same reasoning as AdamsApple tbh, but it's because in my AU, I go by what The Medieval Myth (Midrash Abkir & The Zohar) says Lilith did to Adam (in case you don't know, Lilith rapes Adam in his sleep). So yeah naturally, seeing this ship makes me uncomfortable, plus the fact she helped Lucifer trick Eve and later tried to lead a rebellion against Heaven so I don't think Adam would really wanna get with her again; matter of fact I don't think Lilith and Adam ever loved each other at all. But other than that I'm pretty much ok with the ship- except for the fact Adam is MINE!

HolyBlades: This ship makes me INSANELY uncomfortable. The idea of someone having a crush on some guy and then going after the guy's kid after he dies does NOT sit right with me. And yes ik Abel is way older than Lute and they are closer in age than she and Adam are, but tbh mentally Lute acts way older than him. Their relationship could also very easily become abusive judging by how Lute treats Abel at the moment. Maybe they'll get better but rn the idea of it makes me really uncomfortable. Especially the fanart. Most of it isn't making it out to be the relationship it could be (because it DOES have the potential to be a healthy relationship), they're just fetishizing Lute seeing Abel as a replacement for Adam and trying to get with him. I literally saw a fucking comic where Lute rapes Abel in order to "toughen him up like Adam", so yeah that completely killed any sort of enjoyment I could have for the ship.

CherriSnake: Never understood the appeal of this ship tbh, it came out of nowhere and felt so forced, especially in season one (the only reason it didn't feel forced in season two is probably because they were seperated). Pure fan service imo. You have all these other people Pentious actually has a deep and interesting dynamic with (talking about Emily and Sera, but I don't ship Pentious with either of them. I'm a Baxtious enjoyer), but no, we're shipping him with Cherri 💀 and tbh I really dislike Cherri Bomb in season one. She disregarded Angel Dust when he tried to vent about his day, then proceeded to peer pressure him into doing drugs with her despite him saying he didn't want to. She also let Pentious get dragged into the Sex Room and possibly SA'd even when he was very obviously screaming for help?? She was an absolutely awful friend and Pentious deserves way better. I liked her so much more in the pilot, it felt like she actually cared about her friends. Though Cherri did step up a lot better in season two, I enjoyed watching her and Husk become friends.

GuitarSpear: now I know what you're all thinking, no I don't dislike the ship JUST because I like Adam 🙄 imo they're very not good for each other. They bring out the worst in each other in fact. Adam seems to be the one to have taught Lute the violent behavior and beliefs she knows, and Lute constantly enables and encourages Adam's shitty behavior. Realistically they both need someone to help them heal, being with each other would just make them worse. I also really wanted Lute to be lesbian, and making her in love with Adam cheapens her character imo. Lute is ultimately a victim of Heaven's system. They created her to be a killer and then basically tossed her aside when they decided there was a better way, and completely disregard her feelings. I think it would be SO much more interesting if Lute was motivated by being terrified of losing the purpose she was created for and is trying to desperately hold onto the beliefs she was taught by her closest friend (Lute being a confused lesbian would make a lot of sense and be really interesting. Adam was her absolute best friend and she doesn't seem to do much socializing outside of him. It would make sense her brain confused this deep sense of care for him with "oh I must be in love with him" because she's never really bonded with anyone else, especially since she seems to harbor internalized homophobia). But in the show, it feels more like she's portrayed as "Lute loved Adam and she's mad he's dead so therefore she wants to kill everyone". Now obviously revenge can still be a motivator for her, but I don't think the show is focusing on the tragedy of Lute's position as much as it should. It would also make more sense for her primary motivator to be holding onto her beliefs rather than just avenging Adam if she's gonna be a slow burn villain like the show intends. But that's just how I would write her, she's still interesting nonetheless.

No hate to anyone who ships these, these are just my opinions!! Please don't hate on anyone in the comments either, some of y'all gotta learn to respect some people just ain't gonna like your ship. All the art is super cute btw, not hate to the artists!

u/FNAF_Professor — 8 days ago

FAT ADAM PROPAGANDA

I don't understand how people are still seeing Adam as skinny he's so obviously not, let my husband have his beautiful curves and chubbiness goddammit

Also just to be clear, NO hate to the artists I showed whatsoever, I think all the art here looks really good! I just really dislike when people draw a character meant to be plus sized as skinny (basically white washing but for fat people 💀), especially since we have so little plus sized characters in the Hellaverse. But again, I don't wish for any sort of malice to be shown to the artists 👍🏾

u/FNAF_Professor — 11 days ago

since we're talking about Sera vs Lucifer

This doesn't even just go for the background mod guy, literally ANYONE try to debate with aidon and you gonna get fucking folded trust me I speak from experience 😭🙏🏾 istg atp I think he went to college for 8 years and majored in Hazbin Hotel logistics or something cuz ain't no way-

But yeah shoutout to the sera agenda, shoutout to Lucifraud slander, and shoutout to the goat aidonpor I've had a lot of meaningful debates with him that taught me a lot, we went from fighting about Vaggi slander when we first met to uniting over Adam glazing lmfao

u/FNAF_Professor — 12 days ago

MY FRIEND DREW THIS OF ADAM AND ELLA‼️

This beautiful gorgeous amazing flawless piece of art is by my very good friend u/mikethesecurityguard (u/Efficient_Bet2281 is the rp account for his OC) go follow him!! He is an amazing artist and I love this drawing sm <3 Ella looks so beautiful in his art style and Adam looks so hot

u/FNAF_Professor — 12 days ago

can we talk about how the writers will mischaracterize their OWN characters just to make Adam look bad?

Like seriously, Emily and Sera's reactions to Adam's death made no sense whatsoever for their characters.

Even if Emily found Adam a bit unpleasant, she was willing to risk her life to save sinners who are arguably just as bad as Adam (and were deemed evil enough to deserve eternal damnation). Yet she seemed very weirdly indifferent to his death, it felt like the writers forgot what kind of character Emily is or something 💀 "everyone's freaking out because yknow because, Adam's dead, but who gives a fuck about that" yeah I'm not buying it, that is in no way in character for Emily. She probably knew Adam for centuries at the very least and she's against the erasure of human souls no matter how evil they are. I thought for sure Emily would be the main one mourning Adam (besides Lute) and I was genuinely taken aback when she brushed his death off in S2E1.

Sera's reaction was stupidly out of character when you think about it. Sera's number one priority is protecting the human souls in Heaven because they're her responsibility. Yet when Adam (A HUMAN SOUL IN HER CARE) dies doing a job she allowed, she doesn't seem to care? She even humanizes the sinners by calling them "sons and daughters" but she... Doesn't even humanize the very first soul she was meant to look after?? The soul she allowed to go to Hell and kill sinners? The one she didn't stop from doing reckless BS which ultimately led to his death. I mean, she's showing more guilt for trying to protect her kingdom than for enabling a Winner to be such a piece of shit that it gets him killed.

And before y'all say anything, yes Adam was majorly at fault and his decision to deliberately attack the hotel was incredibly stupid. But Sera's his boss (and seemingly his mentor), she's the one responsible for shutting shit like that down when it happens. Adam announced his intentions to the ENTIRE court room and all Sera says is "that was uncalled for". The guilt of letting him get away with so much should be eating away at her; her goal was to protect the human souls in Heaven, yet in the process one of the souls in her care was killed. That should've been a major arc for her. Instead we only see her use Adam's silhouette as a display of evil in Live To Live, with seemingly no guilt whatsoever that she could've stopped that shit (except the briefest possible frame of Adam's death in When I Think About The Future) 💀 I really like Sera and I think she had some awesome character development in season two, but the way the writers had her reacting to Adam's death was dog shit.

At that point it's not even Sera or Emily being indifferent, it's just the writers straight up mischaracterizing them somehow. Realistically Sera would've been devastated by Adam's death because of her priorities, and so would Emily. Adam hallucination was speaking nothing but facts when he called nobody caring that he died some bullshit. I love my husband he deserved so much better.

u/FNAF_Professor — 14 days ago

can we talk about how the writers will mischaracterize their OWN characters just to make Adam look bad?

Like seriously, Emily and Sera's reactions to Adam's death made no sense whatsoever for their characters.

Even if Emily found Adam a bit unpleasant, she was willing to risk her life to save sinners who are arguably just as bad as Adam (and were deemed evil enough to deserve eternal damnation). Yet she seemed very weirdly indifferent to his death, it felt like the writers forgot what kind of character Emily is or something 💀 "everyone's freaking out because yknow because, Adam's dead, but who gives a fuck about that" yeah I'm not buying it, that is in no way in character for Emily. She probably knew Adam for centuries at the very least and she's against the erasure of human souls no matter how evil they are. I thought for sure Emily would be the main one mourning Adam (besides Lute) and I was genuinely taken aback when she brushed his death off in S2E1.

Sera's reaction was stupidly out of character when you think about it. Sera's number one priority is protecting the human souls in Heaven because they're her responsibility. Yet when Adam (A HUMAN SOUL IN HER CARE) dies doing a job she allowed, she doesn't seem to care? She even humanizes the sinners by calling them "sons and daughters" but she... Doesn't even humanize the very first soul she was meant to look after?? The soul she allowed to go to Hell and kill sinners? The one she didn't stop from doing reckless BS which ultimately led to his death. I mean, she's showing more guilt for trying to protect her kingdom than for enabling a Winner to be such a piece of shit that it gets him killed.

And before y'all say anything, yes Adam was majorly at fault and his decision to deliberately attack the hotel was incredibly stupid. But Sera's his boss (and seemingly his mentor), she's the one responsible for shutting shit like that down when it happens. Adam announced his intentions to the ENTIRE court room and all Sera says is "that was uncalled for". The guilt of letting him get away with so much should be eating away at her; her goal was to protect the human souls in Heaven, yet in the process one of the souls in her care was killed. That should've been a major arc for her. Instead we only see her use Adam's silhouette as a display of evil in Live To Live, with seemingly no guilt whatsoever that she could've stopped that shit (except the briefest possible frame of Adam's death in When I Think About The Future) 💀 I really like Sera and I think she had some awesome character development in season two, but the way the writers had her reacting to Adam's death was dog shit.

At that point it's not even Sera or Emily being indifferent, it's just the writers straight up mischaracterizing them somehow. Realistically Sera would've been devastated by Adam's death because of her priorities, and so would Emily. Adam hallucination was speaking nothing but facts when he called nobody caring that he died some bullshit. I love my husband he deserved so much better.

u/FNAF_Professor — 14 days ago
▲ 62 r/adamcult+1 crossposts

The Ultimate Adam Character Analysis

TW mentions of SA and body dysmorphia (also to be so deadass this is kinda more of an interpretation rather than based on PURE canon but I tried to base all my thoughts on actual evidence rather than speculation).

I think Charlie's story in the beginning of S1E1 is probably a watered down version of the actual story she was told as a child, and she probably doesn't even realize that. I'm sure her parents told her that story to make their past actions less questionable and probably didn't tell her the whole truth, but something's definitely not right with the story she tells us, I don't think it adds up.
Adam and Lilith probably didn't even understand what they were doing back then. They were literally just created and put on Earth, they probably had the mentalities of literal children who didn't know any better, yet were given and expected to complete adult responsibilities. Even if Adam was controlling, I think it's very likely their relationship had mutual abuse, Lilith was probably just as bad to him if not worse. If we go off what Judaism says she did, she is just as terrible as Adam and even arguably WAY worse.

In the show, we see Adam is very reluctant to question Heaven. Like in the court, he frequently looks to Sera for reassurance and bases his primary beliefs off the rules he was taught. I imagine it was the same way back in Eden. Adam was a rule follower. Whereas in how Lilith is described, she seemed much more free spirited. It'd make sense to me if Adam wasn't necessarily trying to be controlling, but was instead wanting her to stick to the rigid expectations the angels had for them. Lilith was more of a free thinker than he was and was able to see outside of Heaven's expectations for them. But that doesn't mean she wasn't just as inexperienced and naive. She might've taken Adam's concern about complying with the rules as him being controlling, or maybe Lucifer made her believe that. I mean come on y'all, he was WAY older than the humans and an angel, someone they were taught to trust and go to for guidance. That mf was NOT completely innocent.

The Medieval Myth (Midrash Abkir & The Zohar) details that Lilith raped him. According to the 10th century text Midrash Abkir and later Kabbalistic writings like the Zohar, Adam separated from Eve for 130 years out of grief and fasting after Cain killed Abel. During this time, Adam slept alone. Lilith (sometimes referred to in this specific passage by the name Pizna) saw Adam's beauty, desired him, and took him by force and/or seduced him against his will while he was sleeping. She used his sperm to fertilize herself and give birth to a massive plague of djinns, demons, and harmful spirits like Succubi and Incubi. I HIGHLYYYY doubt Viv will make that canon, but I personally do like it as a headcanon because SA trauma can make a person act the way Adam does, and it explains a lot of his behavior.

Honestly he and Eve were probably traumatized. I'm a bit conflicted on if he actually sinned with Eve and ate the apple or not because on one hand, we don't see Eve so it could be inferred that she's in Hell for the sin, but on the other hand she could also be in Heaven and we just haven't seen her yet, (because it's clear her and Adam aren't together anymore and probably aren't on good terms so would avoid each other if she IS in Heaven) or maybe she's not in either, who knows?

Basically they knew no wrong, no sin before the apple, things were much less complicated. But after eating it it's like their eyes were opened to everything wrong with their world, everything wrong with their views, with themselves and with their relationship. And learning all of that so suddenly must've been fucking terrifying and completely overwhelming. Essentially the worldview the angels had given them (which was never questioned) was completely shattered. I think they did truly love each other at one point, but after the knowledge of each other's flaws (and Adam probably felt betrayed that she would listen to Lucifer) their relationship deteriorated and went into shambles. The only reason they stayed together and had their children was for the sake of the purpose heaven made them for; they probably had no free will regarding that or at least felt like they had no free will. Plus basically losing both his children (Cain and Abel) in the violent and sudden way he did, I can imagine leaves a guy pretty emotionally scarred. After having both my wives betray me in some sort of way like that, I'd give up on second chances too so I don't blame him for hating the idea of redemption.

Though I also think he does Extermination out of spite. In S1E6 when Sera talks to him and Lute privately she says "I never would've agreed to YOUR yearly activities", I think from that it can be inferred that the entire concept of Exterminations was originally introduced by Adam when they were discussing Hell's population control, it was HIS idea. I think he's probably still bitter and hurt over what Lilith and Lucifer did to him, and Extermination was an outlet for him to take his anger out on their people, because to him that was a way to get back at them for hurting him, and probably pretty much the only way. I've also seen someone else point this out, but he may feel an extreme guilt that he and Eve doomed all their children. Exterminations may be a humane way he sees as putting Sinners out of their misery. I mean, his soldiers are literally called Exorcists (be definition, an Exorcist is a person who drives away evil spirits from good). Now was he right? Obviously not. But it's understandable why he thought that way.

Point is, the poor guy is TRAUMATIZED. He had one wife leave him, Lucifer (who he probably at first considered his friend and trusted him because he was an angel) stole his wife so that was salt in the wound, his second wife betrayed him and went against everything they were taught to believe, was pretty much pressured and forced to stay in a relationship with Eve and have children with her, LOST his first two children in a brutal way and yeah probably had to work his ass off to survive on Earth (I have a headcanon he loves eating because he wasn't able to value and cherish food on Earth when he was alive. You hunt and either had dinner for that night or didn't. They also had nothing to keep their food fresh so they couldn't save it before it got rotten. That's why he's chubby now because he's able to properly enjoy food so he does it a LOT). They definitely didn't give him enough credit because I know damn well he went THROUGH it, no wonder he's such a prick.

I don't think Heaven knew how to handle the problems Adam and his wives had. They're divine beings and probably didn't even have a full understanding of how fragile the human mind is compared to them. Adam seems very reliant on Heaven and Sera's approval because it's all he's ever known, he has no one else because everyone else hurt him. I mean just look at the way he speaks to Sera; he doesn't speak to anyone else like that, not even Lute. I think she's almost like a mother to him. He doesn't act that way around her because he's actually SCARED she's going to punish him, but for me it was the guilty little "sorry" he gave her after she told him it was uncalled for to cuss at Charlie and Vaggi at the end of the meeting. She's probably the main one who was his authority figure all his life, yeah he doesn't exactly hide his disrespectful behavior from her but he's NEVER disrespectful TO her; he looks up to her. You can absolutely tell when he turns to her for reassurance about what got him into Heaven, and she can't even provide definite affirmation for him. It makes me so sad all his life he never had the guidance figures he needed, and then was fully blamed for being enabled by Heaven.

Heaven definitely played a huge part in who he became because they were the ones who were supposed to influence, guide, and teach him; it's clear they didn't do much or a good job in helping Adam process his trauma judging by the way he acts. Adam wasn't a great person yes, but Heaven is largely responsible for that. They never corrected his behavior and let him believe being a bad person was ok for him.

His smile to Lute for sticking with him to the end was so sad, I have a love hate relationship with Lute but oh my gosh, her screams broke my heart... Since when Adam goes to confront Vaggi in the room she and Charlie were staying at in Heaven, he says "it's why I named you". I think this can infer that he basically raised his Exorcists and taught them what they know so they're all kinda like daughters/little sisters to him which I think is the cutest freaking concept ever (also him naming Lute short for Lieutenant is such an Adam thing to do). Unfortunately the show kinda ruined this when showing Adam abusing his Exorcists 💀 Adam fans can't have shit istg

But fear not, there is hope for us yet! Something interesting I noticed is that Adam names each and every one of his soldiers (even though there's most definitely hundreds of them at the very least). He could've just numbered them and called it a day, but he took the time to give them their own individuality. Are the names he gave them stupid? Yes, but I think it shows he cared about them to some extent. We never actually see his initial reaction to Lute mutilating Vaggi, we just see him take her halo and leave. I like to imagine Adam DID care for Vaggi and hated what Lute did to her. But he knows Lute bases all her actions off what she thinks he would do or want. Punishing Lute would have to involve him addressing his own mistakes and behavior, and he wasn't gonna do that. So instead, he just sucked it up, decided "what's done is done", and left with Lute. I also think him taking Vaggi's halo is important. Lute did the same thing when he died— perhaps he was doing something similar, a way to remember one of his proudest soldiers by.

It's been my own headcanon for awhile that Adam has body dysmorphia, he literally covers himself head to toe and never takes anything off willingly. Not even his helmet. We see him wear it all the time, even when he's off duty and Lute's not wearing hers. Hell even in the damn pride merch he's wearing a hat on top of his helmet.
I believe this is because he's insecure about his face. I mean come on guys, we've all seen it. Adam is beautiful and I love him to death, but let's not pretend he doesn't look like the most normal everyday dude you've ever seen. Expectations of him were probably high, he'd be expected to look ethereal as the very first human, and I wouldn't be surprised if he constantly had to deal with people saying crap like "you look different than how I imagined you". Eventually that would make him start feeling like shit about his face.

I think he's also really insecure about his body because of how the Bible states Adam and Eve were ashamed of their naked bodies after sinning which breaks my heart for him :( plus the fact he got so upset when Lucifer taunted him saying "you've really let yourself go" and "your first wife didn't seem to hate what I had to offer, or the second" says a lot. Fuck you for that Lucifer, you're just as shit as Adam yet act morally superior.

Only when his helmet is forcibly shattered do we see his real face and real demeanor: just raw anger and desperation to be important. He screams that everyone should be worshipping him because he's the first man, but... That's it. Because he hasn't let there be that much more to him. He's based all his worth on his importance as the first human, so when he sees no one is taking him seriously in the finale despite that, it sends him into a crisis. To me, it didn't just look like anger; he seemed freaked out and desperate to be seen as he feels he should always be seen. Because when no one is impressed simply by who he is, he has to come to terms with the fact he's only been seen and treated as special because of who he is, nothing more. And that thought is terrifying for someone like Adam.

I once heard someone describe him as an angelic demon, which is such an interesting way to describe him. He shows no humanity in both his mindset AND his physical appearance and that makes me even more sad because I also feel like that's not who he really is. I think he probably used to be really sweet and gentle when he was first created (because why wouldn't he be? It doesn't make sense he'd be genuinely controlling and malicious from the very beginning because it was literally before evil existed), years of pent up trauma and pressure of high expectations from literal Angels can definitely cause a person to act the way Adam does. That smile he gave Lute at the end shows there's a lot more to his character than what we see, and he probably is that sweet and gentle person he used to be with Lute (when they're in private, it makes sense he'd treat her like pretty much everyone else when they're in public because he doesn't want anyone to see that side of him, but it's clear he still cares a good deal about her), that sweet boy he used to be is still in there somewhere, and he's shown to be a bit more calm and collected when Lute is with him, like how she kept him from causing a scene when they saw Charlie and Vaggi in Heaven vs how he acted when fighting Alastor and Lucifer, he was out of control with anger and recklessness, and Lute wasn't there to calm him down or reassure him. I'd also like to point out that when Lucifer taunts Adam about Lilith and Eve, Adam never insults them to get one over on Lucifer. He never says "you deserved each other", or "she was ugly anyway", he just simply gets angrier. I just thought that was really interesting.

I'm really upset how Adam is villainized as a one dimensional pure evil guy because if you really take the time to think about it, he's not the absolute terrible person he's made out to be. No matter how much Viv tries to make him irredeemable, her narrative already proves Adam was also a victim of Heaven's corrupt system. He suffered so much and I'm honestly so upset that he might be permanently gone because now he'll never get the happy ending I think he warrants. He'll never get the peace he clearly so desperately needed despite all the suffering, betrayals, emotional conflict and self hatred (I promise y'all, people like Adam almost ALWAYS hate themselves the most) he faced and it breaks my heart because he deserved so much better than that.

It really makes you think about that last smile he gave Lute.... What must've been running through his head in those last few moments after years and years and years of trauma and witnessing heaven, Hell, and Earth's history. Peace? Relief? Acceptance? I think he finally felt seen. Like he was a real person to at least someone. He didn't have any close authentic relationships except Lute (which doesn't make a lot of sense but I digress), everyone else either left him, betrayed him, or ignored him, but she stuck with him to the end. He just wanted what everyone wants, to be seen and worthy of love. But if he's really gone for good that means he'll never get it.

I think he probably was also relieved. That this was the best way for him to go out: in a bloody battle in all his glory, where he'd never have to admit he was wrong or address his toxicity and insecurity. That smile was for Lute, but there was so much more to it than that. He kept up the arrogant facade right till the end, because no one gave him the chance to believe he didn't need it.

I'm probably looking WAYYYY too deep into his character but oh my gosh I wanna cry for him sometimes. Uhh anyways I think Adam is a really cool character, I like him in a very normal and casual way, and I REALLY hope Viv is trolling us and will bring him back as a sinner!!

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Adam headcanons

・He's bisexual and demiromantic, he was in denial about it for a good while (the new merch drop ruined this but wtv).

・He has ADHD — the Angels called it "a mistake in his programming"

・He's ambidextrous! I say this because we see him play guitar with his left hand in S1E1, but in S1E6 he uses his right hand to write his reasons for getting into Heaven.

・He's hypersexual because of Heaven basically "programming" him to have an abnormally high sex drive. They did this to ensure he would be able to reproduce as much as needed to fill the Earth with humans, and it's something he struggles with every day (possibly the same thing could've been done to Eve and Lilith). Also just to be clear, I'm NOT romanticizing hypersexuality. It's not a silly quirk, it's something he would genuinely struggle with.

・I think he has an extreme fear of apples and snakes/serpents after the forbidden fruit incident (Ophidiophobia and malusdomesticaphobia).

・He has an extreme fear of abandonment that stems from his last two wives (Lilith and Eve) leaving him, as well as losing his kids; he's very clingy and has attachment issues but also pushes people away, similar to Blitzø.

・He slept around a lot with so many women so he could feel like he was still worth something, but also to not get too attached to anyone and catch feelings.

・he has body dysmorphia because of how Adam and Eve were ashamed of their naked bodies after eating the fruit (also because he has gained weight since then) which is why he keeps himself covered from head to toe, LITERALLY.

・He enjoys eating because when he was on Earth he had to hunt all his food and it was very scarce, not to mention he was only permitted to eat certain foods and he had nowhere to store leftovers and keep them fresh, so what he got was what he got. That's why he enjoys eating so much and also why he's gained weight.

・His favorite food is barbecued ribs and he enjoys eating them to fill the void left when he lost his rib to create Eve.

・The only thing he really likes about his body is his wings, he takes great pride in them and his status as an angel in general.

・He has a mother/son relationship with Sera and is secretly a mama's boy.

・He actually used to be the sweetest guy ever but he acts like a jerk now to protect himself from being hurt again.

・He really did love Eve at one point, but after she sinned their relationship slowly deteriorated (if you've seen Moral Orel, I very much imagine his relationship with Eve to be similar to Clay's and Bloberta's).

・He made all of his soldiers' uniforms himself. Every. Single. One.

・He's secretly super insecure and feels unworthy of love (the amount of nights he cried himself to sleep is unbearable, hence the eye bags he has) He used to best friends with Lucifer and now Lucifer makes him insecure because he'll never be a "real Angel" like he was.

・The eye bags are also caused by insomnia and somniphobia (fear of sleeping). Because he was raped in his sleep by Lilith, he hasn't had a peaceful night's sleep since. He's too scared and paranoid.

・His official diagnoses (I major in psychology and study it a lot in my free time so I promise I'm not completely clueless but obviously take these with a massive grain of salt) are ADHD, C-PTSD, NPD, BPD, hypersexuality, body dysmorphia, and atypical bulimia.

・His full name: Adam Zachary Michael Vencenzo Alfonso Giovanni Bartholomew Dinnopoly James Brightman the First (no evidence whatsoever he has last names or anything, I literally just thought it'd be funny to give him a long ass name as the first human. Like imagine Sera calling his full name when he's in big trouble XD)

u/FNAF_Professor — 16 days ago

Lute fans criticizing Vaggi for being "just Charlie's gf" is dumb

I see so many people call Vaggi boring and uninteresting because she only serves as Charlie's partner but then praise Lute despite her being the same damn thing for Adam (minus the fact she can't actually pull for shit and got frienzoned hella badly). Like bro can we just accept they're both really cool characters who have the potential to be interesting and have awesome arcs but have so far been fucked over by the writers? Lute glazing while simultaneously Vaggi hating is so dumb and corny (and a lot of the time it comes across as mfs just trying to be edgy for rooting for a villain and shitting on a protagonist).

u/FNAF_Professor — 25 days ago

Lute fans criticizing Vaggi for being "just Charlie's gf" is dumb

I see so many people call Vaggi boring and uninteresting because she only serves as Charlie's partner but then praise Lute despite her being the same damn thing for Adam (minus the fact she can't actually pull for shit and got frienzoned hella badly). Like bro can we just accept they're both really cool characters who have the potential to be interesting and have cool arcs but have so far been fucked over by the writers? Lute glazing while simultaneously Vaggi hating is so dumb and corny (and a lot of the time it comes across as mfs just trying to be edgy for rooting for a villain and shitting on a protagonist).

Oh also even though Lute is an interesting character I'm gonna personally say fuck you Lute for your weird obsession with my man, me x Adam is peak and canon fr he's so beautiful and gorgeous just look at him omfg I love him sm also Vaggi's fine shit too

u/FNAF_Professor — 25 days ago

ENOUGH. IS. ENOUGH.

Mark my words all GuitarSpear shippers will be found and will be dealt with, THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING. THE ONLY ADAM SHIP THAT IS PEAK IS ME X ADAM, I WILL RULE THIS PLACE LIKE A TYRANNICAL DICTATOR UNTIL YOU SIMPLE MINDED FOOLS LEARN TO UNDERSTAND. LUTE IS BUT A FRAUD WHO FUCKING WISHES SHE COULD HAVE THE SAME CHEMISTRY I DO WITH DICKMASTER. DON'T LET ME CATCH ANY GUITARSPEAR PROPAGANDA BEING POSTED HERE OR YOU WILL FACE THE CONSEQUENCES. YOU. HAVE. BEEN. WARNED.

(Y'all this is a joke I dislike GuitarSpear but I obviously don't actually take it this seriously, all the art I used is super cute. I wasn't lying that me x Adam is the most peak ship tho you should totally ship it otherwise you're not cool)

u/FNAF_Professor — 26 days ago

Ella's baptism

This is smol Ella on her way to get baptized with her big brother, Samael (or as we all know him, Lucifer). Wasn't she the darn cutest? 🥰

Also I'm sorry for not posting here in so long, I've been SO busy 😭💔

u/FNAF_Professor — 28 days ago

give me your best Adam pics and I'll reply with my best pic of your favorite character

I miss Adam sm... I'm going through some tough things right now mentally so I figured a picture exchange might be fun. Any Adam pics would be greatly appreciated <3 please no ship art (unless it's GreedyGuitar) or cropped nsfw /gen cuz it might make me feel worse

u/FNAF_Professor — 28 days ago