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Why does Ancestry not play well with others?

Hello friends,

I understand that if you don’t like something, don’t spend money on it. However, this is getting to be an increasingly larger problem in society as a whole. Companies get so large, that it doesn’t matter if you don’t spend money with them, your vote does not matter. They get money from everybody else.

My interest in genealogy was sparked last year when I inherited my grandfather‘s research. He had an ancestry account of which he kept some of his source material. Before I closed, I went ahead and downloaded it, but working with other family members we chose to continue using the ancestry database so that we could reference grandfather’s work.

Last year, I was frustrated with newspapers.com. You would get hints, but not be able to view them because they were blocked behind a pay wall. Further, they just launched fold three, where they have migrated all of their military databases. Now you will need a subscription for that material. It is just frustrating, because they are such a large company and they receive so much in subscription dollars, you’d think that they would offer some of these things because of the fact that it is their service.

The family is looking into potentially sending off somebody’s genetic material for testing. While researching, I discovered that ancestry is the only company that won’t accept genetic data from other companies. They are making it so you have no choice, but to spend money with them, even if their service is antiquated.

I realize it’s pointless, and I am screaming into the void, but goodness gracious can we just get a break as regular people? I guess genealogy is a rich man sport like the rest of them.

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u/talesofadaughter — 24 hours ago

My SOs father was adopted, then killed before they were born. All I have from his 'before' is this posted envelope.

this is a letter that is only signed 'grandma' and as you can see, she went by her husband's name. all I could find is that he was a cow breeder in Nebraska.

there were 4 boys adopted out. from the letter I gather two of them were named Jerry and Jay. My fil (Robert) was adopted to Athens, tx but idk why or how or if he already lived there.

my mil has been through so much (she was 15 and six months pregnant when he was killed) she doesn't remember **anything** .

the judge will not unseal the records.

u/im_confused_always — 1 day ago
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My Great Grandpa is a complete mystery!

I want to start with, I’ve been at this Brick Wall for years now, and it has been driving me insane! any help would be extremely appreciated! to be honest i’ve almost lost hope and this is truly a last effort

My Great x2 Grandfather Charles Newton Haines 1874-1933 lived in Columbus Ohio. Here’s what I know!

Born in 1874, either Alexandria Louisiana (death certificate and all censuses) or North Lewisburg, Ohio (marriage certificate)

Parents; Unknown (father listed as Newton Haines and mother maiden name LaDell in marriage certificate)

my Grandpas sister did a DNA test and all the paternal matches with surnames i didn’t recognize using the Leeds method all lead back to a McGannon / Tanner / Bowman and Bedinger combination all Ohio based families. I’ve built up trees and looked at records and can’t find anything that suggests a missing or misplaced child.

I cannot find Charles anywhere until 1905. He appears in a City Directory in Columbus Ohio. There are multiple Charles Haines’ at the time so I had to double check every finding!

Father of Paul Newton Haines b. 1907 and Evelyn May Haines b. 1910 and step father of Clara Lucile Bailey b. 1900

He married an Ella May Sackner in 1907 per marriage certificate

He was a Laborer and also a Manager for the Columbus Shamrocks baseball club (I can’t find much about them except for a few Dispatch articles)

I found out he had an artificial right eye, I have one photo of him and that’s about it. I’ll attach it!

The middle name Newton has been passed down the first male of every generation all the way to me. growing up, I was told it started with the original Newton Haines. I’d love to know more!

if anyone has any help or any advice or genealogists they recommend that might be able to help please let me know!

https://imgur.com/a/b4dW5Tn

u/styxdemons — 1 day ago

My brick wall: my Welsh Great Grandfather just disappeared! Can anyone look at US records to see if he emigrated there?

Hi from New Zealand. For decades now I've been looking for Richard Jenkins who was my Great Grandfather. He seems to disappear from Wales after marrying my Great Grandmother Mary James in Goginan (near Aberystwyth) in 1893. They had my Grandmother Mary in 1894 and another daughter Elizabeth in 1898 however there is a chance he wasn't Elizabeth's father.

Mary declared that she was married, and head of the house on all her census forms, but Richard isn't ever living at the household on census night. Where could he be? My best guess is he went to America or Canada or similar.

He's my brick wall and it's driving me nuts. I can see he was a lead miner living in Goginan in the 1891 census before he married Mary James who lived nearby. So I found the link of how they met. And I found their marriage information. But I can't find him on any other census nor death records. It doesn't help that there was another Richard Jenkins in Aberystwyth at the time who was a stonemason but that isn't him.

Richard was born in 1870 at Llanfihangel Glen Yr Glynn, Cardiganshire, Wales and by the time he was two years old had moved about 70 miles to Llanbadarn Trefeglwys. His parents were Stephen Jenkins, (who worked as a Cooper), and Mary Griffiths. Richard's siblings were Margaret, John, Edward and David.

It's so weird to me that none of my Welsh family ever asked my Grandmother Mary Fazakerley (nee Jenkins) about her father when she was alive. None of my cousins or uncles or aunts know anything about him. He's like a ghost.

Can anybody help? I'm so stuck.

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u/Taffy_the_wonderdog — 22 hours ago
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Doing family tree research for friends

Friends who see my tree research occasionally ask for help getting started with their genealogy. I really enjoy doing the research for them. Over 30 years I’ve done about 20 projects for friends. I usually spend about 2 months just compiling data available on the internet and then creating a nice presentation. The easy stuff.

In every case my friends have been extremely impressed and appreciative. Many have been inspired to pick up the work themselves. I’ve found pictures of ancestors that my friends had never seen, books that ancestors had written and even artwork.
In none of these projects have I unearthed anything scandalous, traumatic or upsetting to anyone. Just the occasional birth soon after the wedding, a child who died in infancy that wasn’t talked about, or a previous marriage no one was aware of. But these have always been so far back that they were just interesting or amusing, not troubling.

But heres the weird part: hardly any of these friends have ever shared the work to their immediate or extended families. It would seem as though that would be their first impulse. When I ask “ how did your mother/sister/cousin like the project?” They typically say they didn’t show it to anyone. Why? Just didn’t get around to it. Or some other evasive answer. I’m baffled.

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u/raspberrykiss99 — 2 days ago

Trying to figure out which is my grandmother

How would you read this? I’m having a hard time figuring out the rows. I’d like to know which of these women is my grandmother!

u/violingal69 — 2 days ago
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A lot more Americans may qualify for Canadian citizenship by descent than they realize

I’ve been digging into the recent Canadian citizenship changes under Bill C-3, and I think a lot of people with Canadian ancestry may qualify without realizing it.

Most people assume citizenship by descent only applies if a parent was born in Canada, but the newer rules appear to go much further in some cases. I’ve seen examples where eligibility passed through grandparents and earlier generations because the citizenship rights were restored retroactively.

The biggest challenge seems to be documentation, especially for families that moved back and forth between Canada and the U.S. generations ago. Early Quebec and Ontario records, name spelling issues, incomplete church records, and proving each generation can get complicated fast.

What surprised me most is how many people probably have a qualifying ancestor and just never looked into it because the family left Canada a long time ago.

Has anyone here started the process yet or unexpectedly discovered they qualified through an older ancestor?

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u/FoundInTheRecords — 3 days ago

conflicting birth dates on headstone vs WWII draft card

trying to figure out which birth date is more likely correct for an ancestor.

his headstone (which i’ve seen in person & on FindAGrave) says he was born april 2, 1907. but his WWII draft registration card, which i found through Ancestry citing the National Archives, says august 22, 1908.

unfortunately i probably won’t find a birth certificate because he was born in the Russian Empire, & from what i understand births/baptisms there were usually recorded in church “metric books” instead.

which source would you personally consider more reliable here? the draft card since he likely gave the information himself, or the headstone? & how would you record it in your tree for now?

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u/emotionalaries — 3 days ago
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How do I find out if I'm really related to a kkk grand dragon?

My dad has told me multiple times that my grandmother's father was a grand dragon of the KKK in Pontiac Michigan, until he had to move down to Alabama. How would I go about proving or disproving this? I know he was a grand dragon and he gave his position to one of his priests when he left but that he brought his church with him. My father also claims to have found a check book for The Church of the Empire of the KKK in my great grandfather's old stuff.

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u/Impressive_Link_9302 — 3 days ago
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Eu pareço com os meus resultados? Qual nacionalidade puxei mais?

u/Diego-soria — 3 days ago

I may have missing aunts/uncles but I have no idea how to find out who they are

I don't really know if this is the best place to post this, but there has been stories about my maternal grandfather getting a girlfriend pregnant, and another story of my maternal grandmother getting pregnant and I am trying to see if I can find who these people are.

So the story about my grandfather is that he had a girlfriend in highschool. She ended up getting pregnant, but didn't want to raise the baby. Supposedly her sister was married and wasn't able to have children, so the girlfriend gave custody to her sister. The girlfriend would have likely went to highschool in Lansing, Iowa, and my grandfather went to highschool in Desoto, Wisconsin. The girlfriend's dad was from Genoa, Wisconsin, and I think his name had Leland somewhere in there (maybe with a different spelling, but it would be pronounced lee-land) but I could be wrong. My grandfather lived in Genoa at the time, and the girlfriend might have as well.

The story about my grandmother is that she, while married to my grandfather, got pregnant. For some backstory, they had two children (my mother being the oldest and my aunt being the youngest), and my mom was born August 8, 1988 and my aunt being born in 1994. My mom and my aunt ended up finding an ultrasound photo from August 8, 1989, exactly one year after my mom was born. My grandmother said that it was my mom and the hospital's machine had the wrong date, but the baby in the ultrasound was not developed enough to be her. My mom wasn't born premature either, so that doesn't make any sense. I've thought about the possibility of her maybe having an abortion or a miscarriage, but I'm not sure. She could have also decided to give it up for adoption if she had it, but no one knows. Currently the ultrasound photo is missing, so we really don't have a lot of leads to this.

My mom has taken a DNA test, but it hasn't shown anything that could point us to who these people are. We can't really get any answers from either of my grandparents, since they will both take these secrets to the grave. My grandma did confirm that my grandfather got the girl pregnant, but did not elaborate. If anyone has any ideas of how to find these people, please let me know. I'm not really sure what to do about all of this.

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u/omnishaml — 3 days ago

Help with reading handwriting

Would anyone be able to help me in deciphering this handwriting please? Beautiful, but very hard to read.

Thank you so much for helping me last time I posted a similar certificate.

u/Brummygirl99 — 4 days ago
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Genealogy of Families of Nepalese Nobility

This is my first post on here and this is my first Chart.

It shows how only a few families controlled Nepal for almost 3 centuries. I have not included the highly influential Basnyat Family.

This took me 3 days to make. It has 65 people from the Shah Dynasty, Thapa Dynasty, Kunwar Dynasty, Rana Dynasty, and Pandey Dynasty.

The source is Wikipedia.

u/DrinkKooky1300 — 6 days ago
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How To: Transcribing and Translating documents with Claude AI

Claude AI has excellent transcription and translation capabilities, and works with results from my Ancestry account. When combined with my GEDCOM file from Ancestry, it can hit discoveries out of the park.

Here's how I get the most out of it.

  1. I use a Claude Desktop app on MacOS. I operate it in "Co-Work" mode.
  2. I ask Claude to set up a project for Genealogy. Claude will create a dedicated directory "Genealogy" (within its "Projects" directory - the only directory it's permitted to read/write from).
  3. I'll put my GEDCOM file in the project directory - downloaded from Ancestry, and direct Claude to read it "Read the GEDCOM file and extract all information from it. This is my family. I am astroproff born 1978." This gives Claude context to interpret the document.
  4. Then, I take jpg historical document and tell Claude "Read this. My relative is Lars Hansen. Find my relative in it and extract all the information from the entry. Point out information which is new."

For example, here is a handwritten page from a Danish church record. It contained a possible relative of mine. I hand it to Claude, give it the above command. It churns for about 5 minutes:

This is Claude's response, in full - which, because I can't read Danish, and the handwriting is nearly inscrutible to me anyhow, is an enormous help:

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Got it — entry 22. Here is the complete reading of his record, plus what it adds to what you already have.

Lars Hansen — birth/baptism record, Lindelse 1846 (entry No. 22)

  • Born: 28 August 1846
  • Baptized in church (i Kirken): 11 October 1846
  • Parish: Lindelse Sogn, Langelands Sønder Herred, Svendborg Amt — entered into the main parish register on 1 July 1847 by Pastor Toft
  • Parents' residence: Hersløv Mark (the outlying fields of Hersløv, a hamlet in Lindelse parish)
  • Father: Hans Jørgen Hejne Larsen — written with the prefix "Ungkarl" (literally "bachelor / young man"; usually marital status, but here paired with "hd." it most likely just signals he was a young husband)
  • Mother: Maren Pedersdatter — listed as "hd." (hustru = his wife)
  • Godparents / witnesses (Faddere):
    • Hmd. (husmand — cottager) Hans Pedersen of Kjædeby
    • Ungkarl Jørgen Madsen of Kjædeby
    • Pigen (unmarried young woman) Caroline Madsdatter of Kjædeby
    • Godmother: wife of Hmd. Morten Christiansen of Hennetved
  • Jævnførelses-Register cross-reference: 880 / 369 (this is where his entry is indexed in the parish's running comparison register — useful if you want to pull confirmation/marriage/death entries for him out of the same Lindelse books)

What's new vs. your GEDCOM

None of these people — Lars himself, his parents Hans Jørgen Hejne Larsen and Maren Pedersdatter, or any of the four witnesses — currently appear in your family tree. The two "Lars Hansen" individuals already in your file are different men (one b. 1836 in Kerte, Odense; one b. ~1816 in Mesinge, Odense). So everything in this record is net-new information.

A connection worth checking

This is the part to look at carefully. Your tree already includes Ane Marie Hejne Hansen (b. 5 Aug 1848, Helsned, Humble parish — the parish next door to Lindelse on Langeland), who married Mads Frederiksen and is the mother of Rasmus Madsen (the Sacramento immigrant). Her father is recorded in your GEDCOM only as "Hans," born ~1818 in Fyn, married to Dorthe Madsdatter.

The middle name "Hejne" is unusual and is the same one carried by Lars Hansen's father here. That raises a real possibility that Lars's father Hans Jørgen Hejne Larsen is the same "Hans" who later (after Maren Pedersdatter died) remarried Dorthe Madsdatter in Humble — which would make Lars Hansen a half-brother of Ane Marie Hejne Hansen, and therefore an uncle to Rasmus Madsen. That fits the chronology (Maren's child in 1846, Ane Marie born to Dorthe in 1848) and the geography (Lindelse → Humble, neighboring parishes). It would also explain why your "Hans" has no surname recorded — it had never been pinned down.

This is a hypothesis, not a confirmation. The thing that would prove it is the marriage record of Hans Jørgen Hejne Larsen to Dorthe Madsdatter in Humble or Lindelse, somewhere between 1846 and 1848, and/or a death/burial record for Maren Pedersdatter in Lindelse in that same window. Both would be in the same Rigsarkivet kirkebog series you already have references to (Reference 8008907761 / 8008908021 / 8009029901 for Humble and Lindelse).

Suggested next steps

  • Pull the Lindelse 1846–1848 deaths to look for Maren Pedersdatter
  • Pull the Lindelse + Humble marriages 1846–1849 for a Hans Jørgen Hejne Larsen → Dorthe Madsdatter
  • Look for Lars Hansen in the 1850 Lindelse folketælling — that will tell you if he was still alive, who he was living with, and whether the household has reorganized after a parental death/remarriage
  • Pull the Lindelse confirmation registers c. 1860–1861 (boys confirmed around age 14) — that's where you'd find Lars Hansen confirmed if he lived

Want me to draft a research log entry for this and save the hypothesis (and the new individuals) so you can pick it up next time?

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u/astroproff — 6 days ago
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Offline Tree Conversion Service?

This may be an odd request, but my family tree is currently stored on the ancestry website. I want to pull my tree offline with all the source images and everything attached. I was able to do that with the tree import feature on RM11.

What I want to do now is "un-ancestrify" my tree by converting all sources to proper Evidence Explained citations that cite the original database source and not just Ancestry.

My issue is that my ADHD will not allow me to go through source-by-source to make these adjustments. I have tried using AI to lessen the manual work, but I keep finding issues in what it outputs which is unhelpful.

Is there a person/service that I can pay to help me get my offline tree sourced properly and ready for me to add to it in the future?

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u/MissMysti — 4 days ago
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How to break down a wall using Claude AI and Ancestry records

Since I've done this a few times now, I thought I'd write a quick "How to" for other genealogists.

This is the basic prescription.

  1. You're going to need to download and have a *paid* account on Claude. Why paid? Because the free account just doesn't offer enough computation time.

  2. Get used to using the Claue App on your desktop/laptop. Specifically, put it in Co-Work mode - which enables it to read files on your computer and set up a "Project" space for your genealogical work, like a directory called "Genealogy".

  3. Download your GEDCOM file from Ancestry, and put it in your Genealogy project directory for Claude.

  4. In Co-Work mode, instruct Claude to read your GEDCOM file, and look for the ancestor of interest by name, where the wall goes up. Let's call him "Edward Forgotten".

  5. Tell Claude to search for Edward Forgotten on your family tree on Ancestry. com. Claude will probably need to access it through your browser, so grant permission to do so.

  6. Finally, tell Claude to search for the documentation which will break down the wall. For example "Find Edward Forgotten's documentation near where he died, such as his marriage record, baptism record or birth record."

The response to this, if it is like mine, will be a description of that documentation, pulling out the key information - like exact date, location, parents, etc.

  1. Really finally - READ all the discovered documentation. You want to be at least as familiar with this, as you are other documentation on the tree, and this is to confirm that claude did an accurate job of reading the documentation.

That's gotten me two generations of parents beyond my brick wall for my maternal grandmother's maternal grandmother in Denmark. So now, I have all the way back to her paternal grandfather.

The accounts cost money - so I won't say it's worth it. But I've found it extremely helpful in getting information that many hours of dilligent searching had not uncovered.

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u/astroproff — 6 days ago

Family tree app?

I've been using an app called Family Tree for the last two years. I started it when I was doing my husband's genealogy as a surprise Christmas present. I uploaded about 300 people, showed it to him for Christmas, and then realized it wasn't shareable for him to have access to. He figured out how to export it, email the files to himself, and then import, but it was a pain. I'd love to be able to share this with his sister who lives in another state. This doesn't seem like it would be a difficult app to create and I would even pay for something like that. Any ideas?

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u/spicychickenlaundry — 5 days ago

Well my ancestry is crazy

I live in an extremely small rural area in West Virginia that used to be a coal camp. Idc to share on Reddit because of the anonymity. My last name is Sizemore and for some reason despite being in the middle of nowhere in West Virginia, ancestry somehow pulled up my whole family. My grandpa that I never met who died in 1987 died from drinking, his dad, my great grandpa was a coal miner and died by a rifle wound to the chest by his own son because he was drunk and violent and his son decided to shoot him in the chest and kill him, and my 9th great grandpa was hung by Englishmen because he was Native American and he was nicknamed “a scoundrel.” It’s been crazy learning about my family lol

My family ethnicity is British and Native American

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u/One_River444 — 6 days ago
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Help finding ancestors on the other side of the world.

So, I'm Brazilian, and in my family tree on my mother's side, I've already traced back to ancestors from the year 1840 (I'm a beginner).

But I can't go into my father's side of the family because they're from the Middle East, and their names are very common there and all over the world, like Mohammad (every Arab has that name).

And I only have old letters from them, sent to my love. I've already managed to translate them and find the address and postal code, but I have no way to leave Brazil and go there... What do I do?

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u/No-Neighborhood-1156 — 5 days ago
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Great Grandfather Brick Wall (ish) - Bill C-3

-Looking to complete Bill C-3.

-So far utilzied Ancestory, Myheritage, and Massacheusetts online resources.

-Found My grandfather ( after 20 plus years; my father never knew anything about him... I guess after a while, didnt want too :( )

-Found Name of his parents (My Great Grand Parents) and their birth places ( Alberta and Quebec) on my grandfathers birthcertificate from Massacheusetts.

- So I have their (Paternal Great Grandparents) names, Places of Birth (respectively) and their ages. (Deduced from age on my grandfathers Birthcert etc).

(Frank Piche b.1897 Alberta and Rose Deschamp b.1897 P.Q., Lived in Hampden County, Mass. in 1927. (Birth year of my grandfather. )

- But then the brick wall. I cannot find any info on his parents besides their names on his BC.

- Im happy to continue to do the research / leg work, just not sure how to proceed.

-Ive heard of baptism records, board crossing records etc. Any other advice or direction would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards.. B

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u/bjp716 — 7 days ago