r/AndrewGosden

Has anyone considered looking at Andrew’s birth chart

I know this might rile a few people up, but I’m asking this genuinely. A detailed birth chart reading can sometimes provide surprisingly deep insights into major life events, patterns, and timing—call it pseudoscience if you want, but plenty of well-documented celebrity charts have shown striking parallels to their actual life paths.
Has anyone here looked into the chart dynamics for this situation? I’m curious if any specific transits or placements offer a different perspective on what vaguely went down.

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u/GreatestGoat89 — 2 days ago

young gifted and talented programmes, what were the set up of these?

I read Andrew a year before was on the above programme

What was the set up, was he staying with his parents, were there periods he was away from his parents for large periods of time?

Did they travel over, or have to stay over every day?

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u/WearingMarcus — 3 days ago

The Final Hours True Crime podcast covers Andrew's case

Andrew's case has just been covered by "The Final Hours" true crime podcast (hosted by Sarah Turney). Detailed and objective in my opinion. What do others think?

Check out Andrew Gosden: The One-Way Ticket from The Final Hours with Sarah Turney and Kourtney Nichole on Amazon Music.

https://music.amazon.co.uk/podcasts/e5b994ba-7cab-4207-9ee0-e2366a7952c9/episodes/9ba1e2b2-2119-45b0-b08a-bf775b4a8242/THE-FINAL-HOURS-WITH-SARAH-TURNEY-AND-KOURTNEY-NICHOLEANDREW-GOSDEN-THE-ONEWAY-TICKET?ref=dm\_sh\_k3S3Othgr78hP7iw2urQNCErQ

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u/elizaclementine88 — 3 days ago

A cab driver ?

I’ve been following this case for awhile and came across a theory about a taxi driver awhile ago . And recently I’ve really been thinking about it, I assume there would be cabs / taxi ranks outside of a station like King’s Cross? I’m not sure how well monitored taxis were back in 2007 or whether they had gps trackers and so on. But the more I think about it the more I think it could be a solid theory.

other than outside the station there were no viable sightings of Andrew, for whatever reason he decided to travel to London that day and I do agree it seemed out of character for a studious kid who never skipped school before. but if he went to London for a specific reason, and he knew where he wanted to be and this wasn’t within walking distance, i can assume maybe he decided to take a taxi there. all it would’ve taken was seconds for him to jump into a cab and by serious misfortune that the taxi driver happened to be someone with ill intent and saw a young boy travelling on his own and took this is an opportunity. There would be no trace and a taxi driver I assume would know the area they work in well. he could’ve been taken to a private property ( which I believe is strongly possible unfortunately and I don’t believe he will be found unless like other people have suggested the perpatrator dies and his remains are found on the property ) .

did police ever question taxi drivers in the area? was log books looked at? did they look into criminal records of taxi drivers that worked in the area?

Could they even now look at taxi drivers who were known to work in the area Andrew disappeared if they have criminal records wether violent or against children, maybe they even gained a record after Andrew disappeared if they felt confident after not being detected after his disappearance.

This man would have absolutely no connection with Andrew, no one would notice a young man jumping into a cab as anything out of the ordinary. and it would’ve taken seconds, it makes sense to me. what do you guys think?

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u/Dramatic-Entry-1111 — 7 days ago

Are there any evidence the walks pre London took place?

I have briefly discussed this with another excellent poster, and he/she raises good points that this could be a red herring/dead end. And it really could be.

But I do think working backwards before the event may give more clues than focussing on London, which as we know, apart from the CCTV at Kings cross, is a dead end...(I know there are a few possible sightings).

Whilst Andrew is an undoubtedly a top lad, he did lie about the trip to London, or at least showed deception. Now it could have been a complete spur of the moment thing, or it could be planned. I am leaning towards planned, as he washed his clothes, waited for parents to leave etc.

Now whilst the 4 miles walks, could very well be a innocent clear the air, make a change of route as the bus route was boring on a nice day type thing...But the parents clearly stated it was a change of routine. So I am assuming he very rarely done this before...

But is there any evidence these walks took place. Did the parents have any evidence he came 1 hours plus later from school?

Is there any witness or CCTV that showed him either walking, and or not on the School bus/Public bus on these days?

imo this is important as , if evidence shows he was walking home, got an hour later home, then all this shows is he may have planned timing 4 mile walks, but other than that, its a dead end...

If he did come late, but no evidence he did these walks, then there are hours he could have spoke to someone either in person or on phone. Was he getting bullied on those busses etc. These are all vital clues as it may explain more whether London was spur of the moment or random?

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u/WearingMarcus — 7 days ago

A some questions about the case

  1. He wore slipnot/grunge clothing. was this normal? i.e he would slip into that at any opportunity such as straight from school and or with friends or at someone's house, or would he do this for special occasions i.e if he was meeting certain group of friends?

  2. Whilst it was 2007 therefore Closed circuit tv in houses was less common, there was a pick up on a Doncaster CCTV. ? London is a hip trendy place where you could argue it was more likely in 2007 people would have recordings at London houses (I am stereotyping here). Was this ever investigated? Would all people CCTV be wiped by now?

  3. This is a bit of a floating vague question(s). But the walks from home instead of taking the bus is a biggie. Is there any CCTV footage of these walks? Either by government/business or households?Did he say why he did these walks to his parents? Looking at the distance it meant it would take at least an hour to get home. Would this be to test his parents if they would be worried if he broke routine, or is just simply he had something on his mind and wanted to be on his own with fresh air?

4)According to Wiki he went church and boy scouts, both of which he stopped going within 2 years of the disappearance, where the volunteers/workers here interviewed/questioned?

  1. Whist this sounds harsh we have to be honest here that Andrew decided his family "see you later", only to then change, buy a ticket to London. So whilst Andrew obviously a lovely boy, he could deceive. Could there be a possibility he deceived with the lost mobile phones. Could it be he still had one seceretly? Unlikely but just a thought.

Apologies I am new to the case.

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u/WearingMarcus — 8 days ago

Did the school really call anyone?

My brother went to school in the 2000s and if u were late u would get a call around 10:30am - 12am if the school called someone surely they would know that it wasn’t Andrew parents and as for voicemail calls whenever ur parents accidentally miss a call they always ask ther boss or whoever if they can take a call it’s from the school that’s your child he could be in danger meaning if they did actually call wouldn’t the other parents child pick up and say my child ain’t Andrew?

I think they lied about this out of guilt I think they forgot to call Andrew parents that’s why whenever u ask the teachers about him they never speak about it.

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u/GhastlySpells1111 — 8 days ago

He wasn’t lured to London

Simply because it was a Friday.

Like I said on the other post very rarely do schools call after school to notify the kid has t turned up it’s usually after 9am once all the teaches in the building have submitted there register. Why would a groomer risk having Andrew parents notified almost instantly or before lunch that Andrew didn’t go school + they would have calculated that Andrew would be there just before lunch time.
And in central London u can’t just grab him and throw him in a car or van so it would take him several hours to do so not saying they would instantly know that he went to London but it would mean they would automatically think the dad ain’t the one who did cos he’s at work so they would automatically assume a kidnapping.
Also trying to convince Andrew to go on the Friday would possibly signal red flags to Andrew he would have to be persistent in trying to make him go maybe a master manipulator could do such things but I still think Andrew would be suspicious especially if it was someone he met for 2 weeks at a gifted programme or however long it was.

Everything he did that morning shows he planned a day out just because we don’t have any police confirmation dont mean we can’t theorise and come to a collective agreement.

There was so many things that specific day that would lure Andrew the new psp,live performances and so much were happening and a very calculated young child like Andrew would think he would be safe because of the big city and tourist and people.
And he didn’t take all his money because he wasn’t planning to spend all of it.
If he planned to run away he definitely would taken the 100 and I think if he saw the interviews of his dad saying we haven’t changed the locks and that they miss him I think he would definitely come back.

He got kidnapped we just don’t got confirmation.

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u/GhastlySpells1111 — 8 days ago

Did Andrew know the school would contact the wrong parents?

This isn't aimed at trying to understand what happened to Andrew its purely speculation that I'd like to hear other people thoughts on.

I had a YouTube video pop up the other day going over Andrews case. But one particular idea stood out that I hadn't heard before.

As we all know there was a occasion that Andrew had walked home from school rather than taking the bus (this is often blown out of proportion that he did it a lot, he didn't, his Dad has confirmed that).

The YouTube video suggested this could of been Andrew 'trialling' if him being home late would raise some type of alarm with his family. Could it have been that (since he didn't have a phone or way to communicate to his family that he would be home later) he wanted to see when they would notice his absence?

Essentially working out if he could 'get away' with being home late without intense questioning or worry from his family.

This then lead me to wonder, could he of known that the school would contact the wrong family?

Had there previously been a time that his parents should of been contacted but it clearly failed? I.e. he forgot his PE kit, the school said they would contact his parents, his parent(s) never dropped off the PE kit, Andrew gets home asks about it and they say they never heard from the school.

If the system had worked properly it should of been clear he was missing within hours and his plan would have potentially been foiled, so did he put even more thought into this than we sometimes consider? Although possible, what we know about Andrew would make me assume he wasn't the type of person that would want to cause his family panic.

If these 2 assumptions were correct it would mean his plan was perfect to be able to enjoy a day out without anyone actually realising he did it. (Until a while after the fact, when the absent day might be discussed at school)

Like I say this is purely speculation, just a thought I had, and I'd be interested to hear what others think about it.

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u/AudiGoFast — 8 days ago

It was a Friday

Does anyone think the fact Andrew went missing on a Friday mean anything? What I mean is…. What did he need to do that couldn’t wait until the weekend ? The very next day?
If he was meeting someone I’d have thought they would suggest meeting on the Saturday so his parents were more likely to agree and it wouldn’t alert anyone to his absence and cause panic …
If he wanted to buy something couldn’t it have waited? What was worth missing school for? What was worth ruining a perfect attendance and causing his family to panic when he could have gone over the weekend with none of these issues arising?

It makes me think it was an event that was on that day only or the person he was meeting couldn’t meet him over the weekend and only had free time on that Friday. Just a little post and something I thought of. Sorry if this has been discussed before

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u/Routine_Parfait8640 — 10 days ago

This Morning

The last 2 Mondays, This Morning on ITV have had a missing/unsolved section where they go over a case and speak to a family member involved. 2 weeks ago was Suzy Lamplugh and last week was Lee Boxell.

I noticed the opening titles on each segment did show a picture of Andrew so I wonder if his case will be covered at some point? I haven’t had a chance to catch up with today’s episode but from scanning Facebook I can’t see anything yet but could be one to watch out for?

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u/Ail_Bail94 — 10 days ago

Convicted paedophile from Doncaster

Nicholas Nik Powers

Nicholas Powers is 59 and currently he is serving 14 years for charges including picking up a 14 year old boy in his car, taking him to his home, abusing him and then threatening to kill him if he told anyone. At the time of his arrest he lived on Belmont Avenue in Doncaster which is around a 1 minute walk across the park from Andrews home. This could be a link to Andrew and his interest in music and way to lure him down to London. Another question raises itself in why London? Did he have a gig there? Did he work there? There's lots of unanswered questions and he might have nothing to do with Andrews disappearance but there were enough flags here that we both felt it was worth reporting as a link might not have been made.

There are videos of him performing online in Scarborough and other venues from 2008 onwards but there's very little info on his whereabouts around this period. He has two hidden videos on his YouTube along with 2 giving advice on how to start up and run a soap making business. He also performed online during COVID. His Facebook and all social media has been deleted although his Facebook did exist.

Public company records show a Nicholas Powers, born October 1967, as the director of Nick Powers Ltd with a registered business address in Kenley (the London Borough of Croydon).

The convicted Nicholas Powers was reported to be 56 years old in 2023, which aligns with a birth year of 1967.

The easiest way to travel to Kenley is via London Victoria or London Bridge toward Tattenham Corner or East Croydon.

If you walk from King’s Cross to Victoria along the most direct walking route, you would pass near or right by the Pizza Hut on Oxford Street.

He lived pretty much on the same street Andrew drew money from the day he disappeared. The police may not have made this connection, he wouldn't have been investigated when Andrew disappeared because he wasn't known to the police then. The red flags are here and have been reported to the police. They will now hopefully so the work to see if it's a coincidence or if something becomes of it.

If someone can dig up more information about this, please do.

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u/abstractReality1 — 12 days ago

Is there anywhere left to go with Andrew Gosden's disappearance?

I ask because I have followed this case since it started getting coverage, I've thought it through probably thousands of times, watched and listened to everything I believe there is out there, and ultimately there isn't a shred of evidence, not a tiny particle, after he arrived at Kings Cross London on that September morning in 2007 and was caught on camera, on his own, making his way through the arrivals crowd.

Because there were potential clues of his intentions - withdrawing £200, single ticket, bunking off school - we can speculate a great deal, but ultimately that's all there is. There is nothing which irrefutably shows what his motivation was for the trip, what his plans were, and whether anything might have influenced him in Doncaster. It could be relatively usual things, such as a bright teenage boy pushing his boundaries, something quite personally tragic (suicide), or something more sinister (grooming and murder). We just don't know. The sightings in London are worth consideration, but as they take us nowhere, they're pretty useless. The percentage likelihood that any of those sightings were really Andrew are low given that it was a metropolis and the sightings cannot be clearly pin pointed to any particular day as they were reported weeks later.

I'm sure even Andrew's parents agree that there is very little possibility he is alive, as with the passing of years it just wouldn't make sense that he would put himself through the inconvenience of all of that. He could have been in the wrong place at the wrong time, or met someone by arrangement with sinister intent, or have taken his own life, or simply had a terrible accident unwitnessed and his body has not been recovered. All are possible.

I guess I'm just tired of all the speculation on this, of which I have contributed more than most. I would have liked by now to have heard more from his teachers and class mates, more theories or rumours from those in Doncaster at the time about things people believed happened, or more assurance that his digital trail was thoroughly searched. But my overall sense is that there isn't more information in these areas because there simply isn't anything of significance.

Does anyone think there is anywhere left for this investigation to go which hasn't been covered?

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u/MSRG1992 — 11 days ago

Beyond the usual narratives: Are there any lesser-known theories or under-discussed details you think get overlooked?

Most discussions around Andrew’s disappearance naturally focus on the core theories—an uncharacteristic day trip to London, potential hidden online contacts/grooming, a quiet mental health struggle, or a tragic chance encounter.
Given how many years the community has analyzed every available detail, I’m curious about the angles that rarely make it into standard summary posts or mainstream coverage.

Are there specific details, timeline nuances, or location contexts you feel are frequently missed or misinterpreted?

Is there an alternative scenario or minor theory you’ve thought about—or read in older threads—that deserves a second look?

Obviously, keeping speculations grounded in the known facts is essential, but I’d appreciate hearing thoughts from anyone who has followed the case closely and noticed patterns or possibilities that don't fit the usual narratives.

What’s an angle you think doesn’t get talked about enough?

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u/Specialist-Fee-4197 — 12 days ago

Peace to the Gosden family.

I would like to wish a massive peaceful eternity for his family.
His dad has tried so hard to keep this case and tbh without him and the family we all probably wouldn’t have known about him.
So please show u appreciation to Kevin and the family he’s such a powerful powerful man.

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u/GhastlySpells1111 — 11 days ago

Did trains have cctv back then?

In 2007 did trains have cctv or was it only train stations that did?
If no, is there a chance he got missed in a crowd but ended up leaving the train at a different spot?
(Had to edit to clarify)
What I mean is could he have gone to return home and got off before or after Doncaster.
Does/ did he have any connections to other cities?

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u/Popular_End2069 — 11 days ago

CCTV and AI

I'm not a supporter of AI, however, is the use of AI possible for crossreferencing that footage on other websites? Or to find any anomalies in the initial cctv footage.

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u/WorkerEfficient5622 — 11 days ago

Geoffrey Portway

Trying to look at timelines. Any hint of protway operating out of the UK back when Andrew was missing? I heard they seized 100s of video and clips and he had a torture room when they busted the pedo ring he was apart of.

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u/AlwaysZleepy — 9 days ago

VIP Trafficking rings

Now I don’t mean to be the one to sound so much like a conspiracy theorist.
But I see a lot of the time cases who involve high end people get “dismissed” or “debunked” and I just lowkey feel there something so much shadier going on.
Look at Martin Allen for example if u actually was there back in the day when he went missing you’ll know those MPs did those things i remember following the case for a long time.
And then everything gets “dismissed” because someone says so and ik we should be able to trust the police but what if we can’t. Please don’t attack me I’m quite a sensitive old man but what if those days that they constantly interrogated Charlotte and Kevin to the point where she wouldn’t even tell her dad what they asked her what if that was all just a massive psyop.
Why don’t all the kids who going missing on Facebook ever appear on the news?
“Well they’ll probably come back in week”!
Idc you put that on itv 7pm news.
I genuinely believe there is a massive VIP Sex trafficking ring for a longggg while in the United Kingdom.
Ik it’s not too much about Andrew but I wanted to just put something different out there something that could maybe make people think bit differently about this case.
Ik it’s crazy but it’s not.
The police clearly don’t serve us look at now.
My family friend got raped 5 years ago and they all the dna and evidence and guess what she had to wait 5 years for a trial.
My friend from college got raped by her uncle 3 years ago and the case is still pending.
They don’t care about these children I’m sorry to say.
Not to be Insensituve at all I under the true pain of this case but I don’t think we’re dealing with a normal Runaway or suicidal case and even a normal Kidnapping case.
I think the mi5 and mi6 have programmes set up for smart kids and they get recruited into the mi5 and what not.
I belive Andrew Gosden’s (although not supported by police for my theoretic reasons) was not kidnapped by ur run of the day pedophile I think it was systematic.
And the Brutus government and elites are helping covering not just this but all of em just like they did with saville and elm guest house.

It’s always dismissed ain’t it? And you’ll eat it up.

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u/GhastlySpells1111 — 11 days ago