r/AndrewGosden

What if we created a collaborative knowledge map for the Andrew Gosden case?

I've been following the Andrew Gosden case for a long time, and one thing I've noticed is how much information, discussion, and theorizing ends up scattered across old threads, comments, videos, and posts.

A lot of potentially useful connections get buried over time, while new people entering the case often have to start from scratch.

So I wanted to ask what people would think about creating some kind of collaborative, visual “case map” or knowledge network for the case.

Not just a giant wall of text, but something more navigable and interconnected.

For example:

  • Events happening on the day Andrew disappeared
  • Known sightings
  • Friends/school connections
  • Timeline elements
  • Confirmed facts vs unconfirmed claims
  • Theories and their supporting/contradicting points
  • Locations
  • Possibilities regarding belongings/items
  • Media appearances/interviews
  • Related discussions or leads

The idea would be that each topic/node could expand into more detailed information, sources, timelines, or related connections, so information stays organized and easier to explore.

I think this could help preserve useful information, reduce repeated misinformation, and keep years of discussion from getting lost.

Obviously this shouldn't turn into wild accusations or “true crime entertainment,” but rather a structured, community-driven archive of the case and its discussions.

Would anyone here be interested in something like this?

And more importantly: what platform or format do you think would work best for building it collaboratively?

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u/Moist_Bake_7671 — 5 hours ago

Did Andrew actually lose his phone at 12?

There are so many reports he lost the phone he was given at 12 and asked for an Xbox instead. What if he didn’t lose that phone. He would’ve had access to talk to people without anyone knowing. He could’ve got numbers at the camp, accessed internet through using credit, as I did at that time. Maybe he had a phone and was using it in secret to speak to someone. Tracking phones wasn’t a thing back then so I doubt they would question it going missing Yeats on.

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u/Ayyme1 — 18 hours ago

Did Andrew actually return on that day?

Is there anything to prove he didn't return back to Doncaster that day? He didn't make it home but were police able to check CCTV for the later part of that day either at the train station or around Doncaster once they finally realised he'd caught the train that morning?

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u/No_End_732 — 3 days ago

It’s honestly terrifying to realize how many twisted people are out there

I’ve been going down a rabbit hole reading about John Wayne Gacy lately. Honestly, it’s haunting how he killed at least 33 guys back in the 70s. It’s been making me think a lot about Andrew.

Even though it’s a different time and place, the victim profile is just so similar to him. Gacy was a smart, manipulative guy who knew exactly how to hook vulnerable teenagers. He went after young white guys with long hair who were away from home. He had that way of gaining their trust, promising them jobs or some quick cash. The fact that he buried most of them right under his own floorboards is just plain sick.

It makes me wonder if Andrew could’ve run into someone like that. The fact that absolutely nothing was ever found, no trace, no belongings, is what really gets to me. I keep wondering if the person responsible just had a perfect way to hide the body or if they were buried on some private property somewhere, just like Gacy.

Does anyone know if there were any active serial killers in the 2000s with a similar MO? It feels like something that might’ve been overlooked, and it’s been bugging me for a while.

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u/deathway12358 — 2 days ago

HIM's Venus Doom album launched on the 14th September 2007

I've seen it mentioned that there was a signing event on the 17th September 2007, but has it been discussed much that HIM's Venus Doom album released on the 14th September? It may not have been a signing event, but is it possible he planned to meet somebody to get the CD on launch day?

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u/victionicious — 4 days ago

I swear i’ve just seen Andrew Gosden busking on Market Street, Manchester

Unlikely I know, but my lord he looks so much like a grown version of Andrew as a child! I know it’s probs just a look alike as I don’t think he seems the right age or looks like the cgi ‘aged photo’ that was shared. He had no signage like most buskers which points you to follow their social media so I don’t know his name. It was pop songs and crowd favs with an acoustic guitar and I know Andrew was more a fan of slipnot and the likes but I just couldn’t stop looking at him!

u/Round_Amount1036 — 6 days ago

Psp 2007

I also owned a psp around the same couple of years andrew owned one, I'm not sure if you could've messaged people on chat logs back then. However, I vaguely remember using the browser before psn was implemented onto the psp. This means that if you didn't need psn to log on, then Sony wouldn't be able to uncover any records of him talking to anyone due to it not being needed to use the browser. I'm not going to speculate whether andrew may have communicated with someone on the browser. I'm just trying to let people know of the features of the psp back then, from my perspective.

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u/Slow-Wrangler-8739 — 7 days ago

Passengers in Andrews Carriage

Is it possible a criminal spotted him on his PSP thought he seemed vulnerable and phoned ahead to london for someone to kidnap him? Just a thought really.

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u/Worried-Hawk-2751 — 7 days ago

Brain tumor (just putting it out there)

I want to put out the theory that he could have had some sort of brain tumor or cancer that drastically changed his brain and decision making. Tumors are known to cause impaired judgment, confusion, cognitive decline, and extreme mood changes. Although highly unlikely, It would explain the randomness/impulsivity of it all, his social withdrawal, and his leaving clothing items and money behind. Surely this has been previously discussed, I just haven’t seen anyone bring it up on this sub.

Personally, I find suicide or crime of opportunity to be the most logical explanations, just want to explore it from all angles.

May Andrew Gosden find peace in life or death.

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u/Such_Improvement3072 — 9 days ago

This is a reach but if something awful did happen to Andrew could his psp have possibly been sold online?

Now it's just a theory and I'm probably way off but what are the chances if someone did something to Andrew they sold his PSP on eBay or popular selling sites at the time?. Would it even be possible to be able to check so long after it happened?. It could have been sold without a charger. But if I shoot my own theory down here, it may well have been kept or sold in a shop. Would the police ever be able to track something like that?

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u/TyrantBlade88 — 8 days ago

Is this possible?

Hello, I haven’t been interested in the case for a long time, so if this has already been discussed here, I apologize.

Is there any possibility that Andrew could still be alive but doesn’t know that he is Andrew Gosden or that he is being searched for? For example, if he had been kidnapped and was living under another identity in another country, maybe somewhere in Europe, and is now living a normal life but doesn’t know who he really is or that he is missing. Is that possible?

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u/spicymajla — 10 days ago

The significance of the PSP.

Could Andrew’s PSP Have Been Used For More Than Just Games?

A lot of people say there was “no evidence” Andrew was communicating with anyone online before he disappeared, but I think that’s more complicated when you consider both the technology and the time period.

In 2007, the PSP wasn’t just a gaming device — it had internet browser capability and could connect to Wi-Fi. People could use it to browse websites, forums, browser-based chatrooms and online communities. Back then, internet spaces were also far less tied to real identities than they are today. Many forums and social/chat sites relied on anonymous usernames rather than phone numbers or heavily verified accounts.

The important part is that Andrew’s PSP was never recovered.

So if the PSP did contain browser history, usernames, forum activity or communication, investigators may never have had access to it. I’m not saying this proves he was talking to someone online — there’s no evidence confirming that — but I do think it creates a genuine blind spot in the investigation that people sometimes dismiss too quickly.

One reason I find this angle interesting is because I struggle with the idea of purely random foul play. King’s Cross and central London in daytime are busy, crowded places. Andrew was 14, but he was also old enough to recognise obvious danger, walk away or attract attention if he felt threatened.

That’s why I personally feel that if another person was involved, Andrew likely trusted them to some degree, or at least didn’t immediately perceive danger. That trust could have come from prior communication, a shared interest, or simply someone presenting themselves as safe and friendly.

This is partly why the Breck Bednar case comes to mind for me. The cases are obviously very different, but Breck’s case showed that intelligent, quiet teenagers could still form hidden online relationships without parents fully realising. In that case, the contact started online through gaming/internet communities and eventually led to an in-person meeting. I’m not saying the same thing happened to Andrew — only that it shows this type of hidden communication was absolutely possible in the mid-2000s internet era.

Interested to hear other thoughts and opinions on this!

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u/HistorianMuch2831 — 12 days ago

Andrew's Mind.

Andrew was absentminded. Not very street smart but that's usually not apparent just by looking at someone. I think people put a lot of weight on the one way ticket. I have travelled to London many times and always got a one way ticket, even in recent years not just decades ago. Andrew refused it because it's what his family also did.

I think it's scary that someone out there knows something.

Or do they?

It could be a possible suicide.

Boys especially back then didn't talk about feelings. It wasn't "manly" enough.

Maybe he wasn't gay.

Maybe there wasn't even a specific reason for his suicide. Remember how we all felt as a young teen and how everything mattered so much especially how we were viewed by others?

Maybe he had something building up for a long time. Since he spent a lot of time alone when he wasn't at school. He could've even spent a lot of time trying to find his purpose in life but just couldn't.

The sad truth is:

Not every body washes up.

Not everyone is noticed.

No matter how much any friends or family think they know someone, you don't always know what happens in their head.

Not everyone has a specific event happen to them or reason for depression or struggles. A chemical imbalance in the brain is enough.

He could've even put his belongings in a public bin in London.

There isn't always a psychopathic murderer.

There isn't always a dark mystery to everything.

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u/Radiant-Emu3052 — 12 days ago

Andrew didn't get the return ticket, which many do say he wouldn't have understood the financial implications but i disagree, he was quite a intelligent gifted child and also that he hadn't taken his extra money from his birthday which was £100, his mobile or his PSP charger, which leads me to personally believe he was planning to be in london temporarily but not return that same day which is why he denied the return ticket, he must've been going there to buy something from a shop or go to concert which i don't think that would be it seeing his taste in bands, he didn't bring the things that would signal a person intending to runaway forever, i think his intentions were go to london and do what he was there for, try and somehow find somewhere to stay for the night which i don't know if that's even possible and wasn't old enough, but my conclusion is, i personally think he's dead, london is a big place, even in 2007 it was a dangerous place and to be honest with you anyone could've snatched him up or something could've gone wrong while he was there, but i personally do not think he is living anymore because there is no way he would've survived out there.

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u/Bonkwraps — 14 days ago