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u/Indian_Hufflepuff — 21 hours ago
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Helena Wayne needs reconsideration
I think Helena Wayne (Batman and Catwoman’s daughter) is a better long-term fit for the Huntress mantle and the Batfamily than the current default of Helena Bertinelli. This isn’t nostalgia for Earth-2. It’s about structural gaps in the current family and how cleanly the character can fill them without breaking anything.
- The original reason she was removed from earth prime and replaced by Bertinelli no longer exists.
Helena Wayne was sidelined in the late 80s because editorial didn’t want superheroes to be parents. That policy is dead. Tim has been adopted for over two decades. Damian has existed for over a decade. Keeping the biological daughter permanently off the main board while the books have a bio-kid, adopted kid, wards, and legacy characters is just inertia at this point.
- Found family is already well-covered; adding one more bio-kid/legal kid doesn'tdisrupt it.
Dick, Jason, Tim (especially Tim), Barbara, and Duke already carry the “chosen family” theme. Tim in particular is the purest version of it: he chose the mission, lost his biological family because of it, and was formally adopted. Adding a biological daughter doesn’t erase that. Real families contain both blood and chosen members. The two ideas are not in competition.
- She fills an actual gap.
The Batfamily still does not have a permanent, biological daughter of Bruce who operates in the present day on the main Earth. Stephanie is almostnalways a mess and Cassandra is good but hard to sell. Both remain too easy to write out or de-power when convenient. A Helena who was raised in the Manor is harder to soft-reboot away.
- The origin can be clean and doesn'thave to i port earth 2 plot points.
Selina gets pregnant, never tells Bruce, and leaves the baby on the Wayne Manor doorstep. Helena is raised by Bruce (and Alfred) the same way the other kids were. She later learns the truth about her mother. This keeps Selina’s independence intact, gives Helena the classic “raised by Batman” crucible, adds another girl Robin, and still lets her be Catwoman’s daughter with all the eventual emotional reckoning that implies. No need for Selina to become a co-parent in the present.
- Age and placement work.
Park her in the Jason/Barbara age range — older than Tim and Damian, young enough that she doesn’t break Dick’s early timeline. She can be the second Robin. A serious case (or early brush with the truth about Selina) gives Bruce a reason to pull her from duty under the classic “boarding school” excuse. She returns to the Manor after Tim has arrived but before the adoption is finalized. That window lets her build real resentment toward Bruce (the hidden mother + Jason’s death) while also giving her actual time to know Tim as a person before he becomes her brother on paper.
- Her adult codename is thematically perfect.
“Huntress” sits at the intersection of cat and owl (a flying night creature like bats). It lets her claim both bloodlines without simply becoming Batgirl or Catwoman Jr. The question of how the child of Batman and Catwoman becomes her own person is more interesting than the question of how a mob princess becomes a vigilante.
- Most of what people like about Bertinelli is portable.
Mafia texture? Make Selina a Falcone bastard like they have in the past (or better yet, a Bertinelli bastard). Helena can still collide with that world when she goes looking for answers Bruce won’t give her. Black Mask feud? Still available if she’s mafia-adjacent by blood. The edge, the willingness to go further than Bruce, the uneasy place in the family — all of it transfers. The 2002 Birds of Prey show already used a Batman/Catwoman daughter (Helena Kyle). The idea that only the Bertinelli version “works” for that space is backwards.
- She creates better friction than another soft addition.
Her anger comes from different sources than Damian’s. Damian’s is competitive and status-driven (“I am the true heir”). Hers is personal and retrospective (abandonment, secrecy, being sidelined, Jason). Two complicated, permanent, angry biological Waynes who are angry for different reasons is more useful than two characters who are both just “the difficult one.” She can be protective of Tim, treat Damian as the annoying little brother he is, have an initial ideological cold war with Barbara that slowly becomes real friendship, have feelings for Jason (this isnthe biggest missed opportunity) and remain unimpressed by Dick’s legacy without being hostile about it.
- Emotion has to be earned.
The Batfamily does not need more unearned group-hug moments. It needs relationships with actual cost. Helena arrives with built-in grievances. Any warmth she develops (with Tim, with Alfred, eventually with Bruce or Barbara, and ESPECIALLY with Jason) has to be fought for. That is the difference between a character who generates feeling and a character who is used to deliver it.
Bertinelli has had decades as the main-Earth Huntress and has some strong stories. That history doesn’t disappear if Wayne is given the role going forward; the useful pieces can be absorbed. What Wayne offers that Bertinelli structurally cannot is a placement of permanence in the Batfamily. Someone who belongs in the Cave by blood and by upbringing, with a distinct flavor of conflict that the current family still lacks.
The Batfamily is one of the most popular elements in modern superhero media. At this point, keeping Huntress permanently outside that structure while the rest of the house is full is starting to look less like a creative choice and more like a habit that has outlived its reason.
I understand not everyone will agree, and I respect differing opinions. What do you all think?
[Edit: I forgot this thematic point: if Helena is brought in, then Bruce has a kid for each of his love lives: Helena from Catwoman, Tim from the mission, and Damien from Talia.]
u/EntranceKlutzy951 — 14 hours ago
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Who’s winning the Batfam Rap Battle?
No swear words and no bringing up sensitive topics
[Image from WFA]
u/illudofficial — 1 day ago
I made a Batfamily Bundles and excited to share it!
For the past few months I’ve been working on a Batfamily themed prop bundle for my Etsy shop. I have combined my love for lore files and the Batfamily and made my own! I wanted it to feel like you found a box of files from Wayne Manor. Some are confidential and some are even school reports for Dick!
If you are interested, the bundle includes things like:
- Wayne Enterprises Personal Files
- Handwritten Bruce Journal Entries
- Gotham Academy Application and report card
- Dick Grayson Drawings
- Dick hand written journal entries
- Alfred’s Wayne Etate records
- Gala invitation
- Gotham Gazette front pages
- AND MORE!
I’m trying to make it feel like little story details you can search for in files.
If you are interested! I am selling them on my Etsy shop! School is starting back up soon and would love the support or any ideas for future Batfamily members!! Thanks ♥️♥️
u/lupeflores85 — 1 day ago
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Happy Late Birthday Jaylad
technically this isn't a birthday art and was made in may and is posted in Tumblr but i decided why not post it here as a birthday art? Anyways, Happy Birthday Jaybin :33
edit: oh btw the qr code doesn't do anything, that's just a watermark I had before changing it. don't mind it + I'M SO SORRY FOR THE ASS QUALITY 💔
u/Own_Example2923 — 2 days ago
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A fellow batfamily member starts flying off the rails, but instead of necessarily killing people he uses “other” extreme punishments. How would they react to this?
u/Fearless_Phantom — 2 days ago
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No matter what...
...You will always be my son.
Drew this for Jason's birthday and my fan comics 5th anniversary. Drawing inspired by another drawing made by Snartles (I asked and received permission to use their drawing as a pose reference)
u/Specific-Cobbler2653 — 3 days ago
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Something I made for Jason's birthday!
Just added a watermark even though I dont think anyone is gonna steal my art
u/An_Art_Addict — 3 days ago
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Who else is scared of but deeply love Alfred pennyworth?
u/Old_Estate_4782 — 4 days ago
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Red Robin AO3 Site Skin!
Batfam AO3 site skin #4 is here!! Introducing Red Robin!!
Header image from RR #5, illustrated by Ramón Bachs (I edited Pru & Zee out for framing ✨o7), Footer image from RR #25, illustrated by Marcus To (I edited the explosion a little closer so Cass wouldn’t be cropped out ;))
Guests appear as Tim’s iconic Red Robin from Juni Ba’s The Boy Wonder! :) ((Highly recommend that comic, especially if you’re a Damian fan :D))
Here’s the UK/ US compatible link :) Batman-AO3-site-skin/Red Robin AO3 Site Skin at main · fireflypenumbra-ctrl/Batman-AO3-site-skin
And the Asia/ other reigons compatible link :D https://github.com/fireflypenumbra-ctrl/Batman-AO3-site-skin/blob/main/Red%20Robin%20AO3%20ASIA%20COMPATIBLE
As usual, the instructions on how to apply the skin are in the README section on GitHub! <33 fireflypenumbra-ctrl/Batman-AO3-site-skin
((Every site skin I’ve created so far has a different title; Nightwing’s was Leaping into the Site, Red Hood’s was Outlaws of Our Own… Tim’s is a little more niche ;) The Üthernet is a reference to the place he went in the absolute brilliant mayhem of Red Robin’s ‘The Rabbit Hole’ arc, 18-21 :D))
Lmk who you’d like to see one for next!! :D
u/Expidition — 4 days ago
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Nightwing AO3 Site Skin!
Batfam site skin #3 created, this time for Nightwing!! :D
The header illustration is by Bruno Redondo, and the footer is a combo I edited together from a Batman panel and Phausto’s Discowing illustration 😌👍✨
This time, Guest comments appear as a Hampter-wing (by Mads) >:D
Here’s the link to the overall Batfam site skins so far: https://github.com/fireflypenumbra-ctrl/Batman-AO3-site-skin/tree/main
Aaand here’s the Nightwing one specifically!! https://github.com/fireflypenumbra-ctrl/Batman-AO3-site-skin/blob/main/Nightwing%3A%20Leaping%20Into%20The%20Site
((Follow the README tab instructions to apply it >:D))
Hope guy guys like ‘em!! Lmk which skin I should create next :) ✨🙌
u/Expidition — 6 days ago
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Does anyone know which fanfic this was?
I remember that a witch? Or something paranormal cast a spell on Tim, making him always 17. Every year that passes he keeps turning 17 and the others don't notice I think it was because Their memories are rearranged so they don't realize the spell, and if Tim tells them, they end up forgetting it thanks to the spell.It gets to a point where the others realize things aren't right, and when they ask Tim, he doesn't answer, he just looks at them, and that's when they realize, I don't remember if the spell broke on its own or if they had called someone.
I can't remember the name of the fanfic and I've been looking for it for a long time; if anyone knows which one I'm talking about, I would be very grateful.
u/alan_nardo — 4 days ago
Red Hood AO3 Site Skin!
Batfamily AO3 Site Skin #2: Red Hood!
Header/ Footer illustrations by The GOAT, Dexter Soy 😌👍✨
Guest users appear as Fatson >:D
Please bear in mind that I’ve only been coding for less than a week (oops) so if you notice any errors, let me know and I’ll try my best to patch them!! >:D 👍💥🔥
Hope ya’ll like it!! Let me know who I should make one for next!! :D <3
Here’s the link to the skin— the README instructions gives guidance on how to add it to AO3!! :)
https://github.com/fireflypenumbra-ctrl/Batman-AO3-site-skin/tree/main (instructions + collection)
https://github.com/fireflypenumbra-ctrl/Batman-AO3-site-skin/blob/main/Red%20Hood%20AO3%20Site%20Skin%20%231%20%3A) (direct link :))
u/Expidition — 6 days ago
Batman Site Skin for AO3!
Hi! I saw someone on here requesting a Batman site skin, and spontaneously learnt coding based on pre-existing site skins to make one if anyone’s interested! :D
The header image is by Juni Ba I edited with Juni’s illustration of Batman, and the lower is a recoloured skyline from BTAS :)) <3
Hope you like it!
u/Expidition — 7 days ago
Idea for Robins
how many would love to have Tim and Damian be the same age, preteen, and both br robins?? like Tim Red Robin with the TNBA red suit with black undies and cape but with a RR symbol and Damian with his Son of Batman movie uniform?? I would love to see them as good brothers who get up to fun hijinks and play off each other well. I think the dynamic could work well and give Damian and friend and ally closer than anyone else could be save “Pennyworth”. The Wayne Boys could be a force to be reckoned with in and out of uniform. It could add some fun to Damian’s personality too. Having a same aged brother around the house to banter with to joke with and play with to just hang out with. Any thoughts??
u/Professional_Lynx300 — 5 days ago
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I bet not being in your daughters life Alfred, would make it feel like you never had a Fathers Day before [Batman Superman 2026 Annual #1]
Be a better father to Julia, Alfred. She deserves a father too, and its not fair Bruce got 2 (and Dick, Jason, Tim, Steph, and Damian).
u/EuropeanT-Shirt — 7 days ago
[Fan Art] Jason Todd Art by me !
Did some jason Todd fanart!!
Art made by me
My instagram is moonsry_art
https://www.instagram.com/moonsry\_art?igsh=MTFvZHNpMXg3MWNnaA%3D%3D&utm\_source=qr
u/WeabooTwT — 6 days ago
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What if... Bruce never became Batman discussion.
I want to write a batfam fanfic, but I'm still deciding some plot points important to the story.
My fic is going to be a good old-fashioned "What if..." AU.
The idea is simple, in my AU Bruce Wayne never became Batman, not going to give more about the plot because that's enough.
So I need help deciding the routes of the other members of the batfam if they never encounter Batman. I already have ideas for most of them, but a few are giving me trouble deciding.
- Feel free to add your own ideas to the ones below
- If you want to add something about other batfam members, feel free to do so.
- I don't care about continuities, my story is going to be a frankencanon anyways.
- Rant as much as you want, I love reading rants.
Richard Grayson
In this case, I kind of want to keep his parents alive for sake of the main plot. With that in mind I'm deciding how it would work with the Court of Owls, and if to add them to the story or not.
- The Court would have waited more for Dick to grow a little bit more?
- The Court killed his parents pretty early to take Dick.
Jason Todd
We all know that Jason was really good at surviving in Crime Alley, so in this AU I have two ideas.
- He either became a Crime Lord on his own (His morals are loose, but better than most in Gotham).
- He turned his life around, he got out of the criminal life before going too deep and created his own organization to help people in Gotham.
Cassandra Cain
Same backstory, the differences came after her first mission.
- She tried to escape as in canon but was unsuccesful, so she was forced to continue working for LoA.
- She managed escape, but... Where would she end up in this AU?
Duke Thomas
I don't know what to do with him, because a lot of the reasons on why he started the vigilante life had in mind that Batman existed already when he was introduced. I know his has his backstory with his bio-dad, but I don't know what exactly to do with him.
- His father found him eventually and took him.
- The crime life of Gotham eventually reaches his family and he becomes a low-rate criminal or a vigilante on his own.
Again. You can disagree and think something different about these scenarios. I just want to get ideas for my fic.
Thank you if you read all of that.
u/Stunning_Sport7919 — 6 days ago