r/BethelSnark

"I spoke to an inside source at Bethel and learned the following info which I believe confirms Bethel is not following through with their promise to reform.

1. Bethel is laying off about 50 people. This is relevant because of the nature of the layoffs not merely because they are happening. I’ve known for some time that Bethel is struggling financially but didn’t mention it publicly as I don’t see how that’s worth sharing. But, it is relevant given what else I am sharing.

2. They are planning more layoffs in August.

3. This inside source told me that the people being let go are believed by them to be the very ones who ask too many questions and are trying to advocate for change. That’s a deeply concerning culling which suggests what I’ve believed for some time now. That Bethel’s initial apology ended up being more strategy than reform. This explains a lot of their behavior in recent months.

4. That strict non-disparagement agreements are being signed by those who are being laid off, in order to get severance. In other words, “we will give you this money but you have to promise not to say anything that can hurt our reputation.” Bethel previously stated adamantly that they don’t do NDAs (implying they don’t limit what people can say) but I can attest that they do bind people to silence in contracts because, completely separate from the new source I have, I have seen one of these severance agreements with my own eyes. It was extremely strict and far more limiting of speech than a typical NDA. It said the person wasn’t allowed to say anything that could harm Bethel’s reputation, not just that they couldn’t tell lies or reveal private info.

5. According to the source they seem to be planning to ignore the issues with TPT. This is consistent with multiple reports I’ve seen that Bethel is censoring discussions about The Passion Translation on their alumni Facebook group, a group which used to allow open discussion of many issues, until recently. The fact that they are going to ignore the TPT issues is a true affront to the Holy Scripture.

Also, according to a recent post from Candace Simmons to supporters of Brian Simmons and The Passion Translation, an elder from Bethel apologized profusely for a supposed “glitch” that happened to remove the book from the Bethel store before they put it back up. It looks like Bethel is tripling down in their support of a liar and his thoroughly debunked “translation” of the Bible.

None of this is good. None of it makes me happy. But I think it helps confirm that Bethel is past the point of no return.

Some may doubt me quoting a source they don’t know but keep in mind I have been right over and over for months and not a single significant claim I’ve brought from sources (many anonymous to you) has been proven false. On the contrary, evidence has regularly surfaced to confirm my reports to you."

He is Todd White’s mentor and they have similar verbiage, beliefs and mannerisms.

I was deeply impacted by both but especially Dan.
I now believe both preach a FALSE gospel.

How it started

Dan was told his new gospel through a spirit that appeared to him- claiming to be god.This is also how other cults and false gospels have been coming into the world for thousands of years.

It took me a long time to see and untangle from Dan’s sonship message. He seems so happy and genuine, but if you are willing to test his new gospel with the traditional biblical gospel- the error is more obvious. He also bashes more traditional Christianity often.

He is strongly Word Faith and very self-referential.

You may notice that the Gospel of Dan is very sensual and his personality sells the message. He appears to be fun, goofy and free.
BUT you will hear a condemning tone and hatred of the more traditional church in his messages.

He calls that a spirit told him that Jesus did not die for sin, but to rescue “lost sons.” It sounds good - right? Identity…sonship…love

It all sounds good and biblical. Except that it’s NOT.

And I AM charismatic so that’s not my issue.

I used to visit Dan every July 4th when he’d visit a local church. I was baptized by him. I loved the whole movement…the laughing…the signs and wonders.

But I learned a sign and wonder can be a LYING sign and wonder that supports/gives evidence to - a lie. Or another Gospel.

We were warned about this in Scripture!!! But it took years for me to see it…

And it’s painful to untangle from this movement that I once loved.

If you remove from Dan his smile and apparent freedom…and just evaluate his teaching with the black and white of Scripture- it falls short.

But is extremely deceptive and extremely beguiling. I mean who doesn’t want to “become love?” That teaching helped me in a very hard time in my life.

But it is NOT Scripture.

My friends and mentors are friends with Dan. I was in deep.

Mike Winger’s expose on Bethel Jan 2026 started my freedom journey. It’s not easy. There’s a lot of pain and grief but I’m also incredibly grateful that REAL Jesus rescued me.

My husband and I had “Yayy God” t-shirts and Yay God license plates.
These are Dan phrases for those of you who don’t know him well.

If you understand the issues with Todd White- you need to know that the message he teaches - originated from Dan Mohler which originated from a spiritual encounter that gave Dan (alone by personal revelation) this “new” gospel.

Anyone else used to follow Dan and doesn’t anymore?

Has anyone dealt with significant, criminal, unlawful stalking by Bethel as part of retaliation for trying to expose their abuse and illegal activities??? Or just trying to escape their abuse yourself?

How did you get out and make it stop and secure your safety??

Has anyone had success working with law enforcement in Redding/Shasta to assist you in stopping unwanted abuse from Bethel??

Hi everyone,

I’m a postgraduate researcher at Bath Spa University (UK) doing a small qualitative study exploring how young people make sense of growing up in Christian environments.

I’m especially interested in how people understand things like belonging, identity, authority, morality, guilt/shame, and personal change in those contexts - whether that experience was positive, difficult, complicated, or somewhere in between. I’m interested in how people themselves interpret their experiences over time.

You can take part if you:

Are aged 16-18
Were raised in a Christian context (any denomination or background)
Are currently in the UK (or recently lived here)

It doesn’t matter if you’re still practising, no longer practising, questioning, or somewhere in-between.

What taking part involves
One online interview (45-60 minutes, Microsoft Teams)
A relaxed conversation about your experiences growing up in a Christian setting
You choose what you want to talk about
You can skip questions or stop at any time

Ethics & safety
This study has full ethical approval from Bath Spa University’s Research Ethics Committee, following BERA (British Educational Research Association) guidelines.

A quick note because this sometimes comes up:

UK universities don’t use “IRB numbers” like US institutions
This study has been formally approved through university ethics procedures
Everything is confidential and anonymised
Data is stored securely under UK GDPR rules
Safeguarding procedures are in place if needed

If you’d like more info or want to take part, you can contact me here:

Ruth Lloyd
ruth.lloyd24@bathspa.ac.uk

I’ll send an information sheet first, and you can decide after reading it whether you want to take part.
University: Bath Spa University
Ethics approval: Granted via institutional research ethics process ( in adherence to BERA (2018/2024)
Participants: Ages 16–18 (Gillick competent)
Safeguarding: Protocol in place
Data: Anonymous, GDPR compliant
Supervisor oversight: Yes

Hi! I'm a journalist who writes about religion, and I'm working on a story about the state of Bethel in the wake of the recent scandals. If any recent BSSM alumni or people still connected to or recently connected to the church are interested in speaking with me, I would love to hear your stories, thoughts, or opinions.

I’m releasing a book. The appendix will address the topic of False Prophecy and how the early church father’s writings undermine the entire Prophetic framework Bethel operates under. Just felt like sharing. The book is done. The publisher is going to tell me when it will be available. It will be sold at Barnes and Noble and Amazon. I hope it will vindicate the hurt and nonsense that people have been subjected to in this community.

Title TBA. Keeping it close to the vest.

Really informative video if you’re trying to piece together the origins of why deliverance has bounced back Recently. Hour 6 minutes run time

Found this video on YT.