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The Marquis and Xuiru have a conversation while watching their relatives argue. The Marquis asks her, "So how do you feel watching the drama now?"

I really do want to slap him, but fortunately, Xuiru has far more restraint than I do.

I was a bit confused by the conversation that followed, but from what I can gather on Weibo and XHS, she is essentially telling him, "I used to be part of the audience, and they were watching me. But now I am the one watching them."

It's her subtle way of saying, "I am not watching the drama. I was the one who created the drama. I'm the puppet master."

That's why the Marquis looks so shocked.

What do you think he's shocked about?

A. That Xuiru was so cunning to have done this.
B. That she's not shattered having to accept a concubine.
C. That she may never have loved him at all.
D. That their marriage is just a business transaction now.
E. All of the above

Most probably to assuage his hurt male pride, he asked if she was ever upset about the concubine.

She tells him that yes, she did care that he was going to get a concubine, but what difference would that make? So why waste time fussing about it?

Xiuru's vibe be like:

https://i.redd.it/w9r5drj2ngth1.gif

Her coldness shocks him, but she matter-of-factly tells him that for their daughters' sake, she will be the best wife ever. She will throw the biggest welcoming party for the new concubine. Then she leaves.

Bye, Felicia!

A series of expressions flit across his face—shock, hurt, and then perhaps a tinge of pride towards the end. Too bad he realized that his wife is a badass too late.

We have an expression in Malaysia: Padan muka. Which roughly translates to "Serves him right" but the literal translation is "The face is wiped off". You know how "face" is so important to the Chinese? Well that dude's face is completely wiped off now. Gone.

Do you think their marriage would ever recover, or is it dead, gone, buried? Possibility of recovery:

A. 5%
B. 0.5%
C. -10%
D. A black hole

Marriage is best served cold

At least to Xuiru.

When First Madam speaks to Lan Xiang and Jinqi about how they had basically planned this from the start, she insisted that her daughters listen in.

First Madame tells them that this was Xuiru's idea. And Jinqi said, "Third sister is far too ruthless." I was wondering what he meant by that. But I agree—think about it. These girls are so young, and yet they are now being taught to basically be as ruthless as she is, to have their eyes wide open about the reality of men and how life really is for women.

For someone like Jinqi, who is a romantic at heart, he found it ruthless that Xuiru is squashing the hope of love in her daughters at such a young age. Xuiru is not giving them the opportunity to be kids, or to hope for a loving marriage—you know, the kind Jinqi and Lanxiang enjoy.

Personally, I don't think this is a good move, as I foresee her daughters growing up to be cynical and controlling; some may even do the opposite by rebelling and marrying a cad. Deny someone something long enough and they'll do exactly what you don't want them to.

But I can understand Xuiru's logic; now that they are literally heiresses, her daughters are going to be prey for everyone after their wealth.

Better be huntresses than prey.

A riot of weddings

Nanke is so handsome, the brides are so beautiful!

So now that there's news that a concubine will be taken from the Lin family, everyone is going to Lanxiang, asking to be married or not married. Nanke wants to marry Xiaolian, and Xiaolian's reaction is really on brand. Lol.

Not only was she clueless that Gan Tang was interested in her brother, she is also completely taken aback that Nanke is interested in her that way. But then again, knowing Nanke, he probably never showed any overt interest in Xiaolian, thinking he had all the time in the world (or trying to work up the courage to do so). This whole announcement must have alarmed him enough to come forward straight away. Well, good for him!

Then again, it is Xiaolian—he may have tried to hint his interest, but you know how she isn't the most clued-in person lol.

The marriage at the little village of the Lin servants was so beautiful. I think Xiaolian's mother must be beside herself to get both of her children married off into such good families! That lovely woman who used to pass messages between Lanxiang and the Xus deserves all the blessings!

Meanwhile, Jiugao's mother laments her son's singlehood. After the utter ruination of his reputation, she has lowered her standards a tad

Died laughing when she said this

And good news, Jiugao is also gonna get married. Looks like finally he makes his relationship with Yuchan official in front of his mother, who of course smacks him for not being truthful to her from the beginning. Poor him, he can never win.

(Nanny Wu's love language is, apparently, beating the shit out of people.)

Life happens, so does death...

So fourth sister is now with child, and First Madam says something cryptic—saying that she can now die happy, which of course made everybody say "Choi" to ward off the bad luck. (Alas, too late, as we later find out. Ugh.)

And at that moment, a maid rushes in, saying that Lanxiang is giving birth.

How progressive of him—Jinqi is actually right next to her, panicking and wrecking his nervous system.

This is much to the dismay of Second Aunt, who says that it's bad luck that he's even there—or rather, that it's bad luck for him to be there.

Fun fact: Chinese people consider period blood dirty, and as a kid—and this could be TMI for some of you—I was told by my mom not to hang underwear too high, lest my father walks underneath them by accident, because it's considered bad luck. Wait, it's bad luck for men, but not for us women? Well, how frail of them!

Yes, these silly superstitions about women's bodily functions being unlucky and inauspicious is indeed a thing, and Xuiru has a point. What's so inauspicious about witnessing the birth of a new life?

Anyway, I just think that superstition exists only because men are actually afraid to see the birth of their child, and they needed some "plausible" excuse not to be in that room.

Hilariously, Jinqi passes out.

https://reddit.com/link/1wxhin8/video/lrj28dyzngth1/player

But not before freaking out all the women outside who thought that Lanxiang was the one who fainted lol.

The Lin family is trending in Jinling again

Apparently, men passing out during the birth of their kids is a very common thing. I remember reading a Reddit post from a man who passed out when he saw his kid being born, saying that seeing the baby pulled out from his wife was like watching something from an alien movie. Well, bless his little heart.

I love how Jinqi is so happy that he cries over his kid, and a teardrop falls on his/her blanket. Oh Jinqi, aren't you glad you resigned and became a house husband? You get to spend quality time with your wife, saw your kid coming into the world (okay, you missed the most important part, but it's okay—a baby popping out of a vagina is indeed like something out of an alien movie, and we forgive you for lack of constitution).

Honestly, it's so lovely everyone is waiting here.

Outside, when they find out that it's a girl, we can see that Lan Xiang's mother was super worried. But third aunt quickly reassures her, and that First Madam doesn't care about the whole daughter thing. So she visibly relaxes.

Anyone noticed that she never seems comfortable in the Lin mansion? Lanxiang and Jinqi, heck most of the household, go to great lengths to include her in their household, but she has never fully relaxed there.

So, I was really touched to see First Madam taking her hand, implying that they are now fellow grandmothers and are of equal standing.

Later, we see that First Madam has a festering wound. Oh no, she's been hiding it because she didn't want to make her children upset. First, Lan Xiang is about to give birth, and she didn't want to stress Lan Xiang out. She also didn't want to upset her fourth daughter, who was just getting married. So she hid her growing illness. It appears to be cancer. :(

Nanny Wu is already mourning :(

Jinqi finally realizes Lanxiang isn't ... Lanxiang.

Lanxiang's mother says that she labored for half a day only before she gives birth. But Lan Xiang told Jinqi earlier that her mother labored day and night to deliver her.

This proved to be the breaking point for Jinqi, who takes out his little box of Lanxiang merch (you keep Lanxiang souvenirs, da ye??).

He brings the box to her, and you can see her slowly realizing that he has discovered that she has a secret identity.

"Now that we have children together, shouldn't you tell me where they come from?" He asks.

I think he's asking: Shouldn't you tell me where our kids really come from?

https://preview.redd.it/kfaddanrogth1.png?width=865&format=png&auto=webp&s=aaf09c6cd116e3b87fc9b2304a2cf685b4e37c82

I love Liu Xueyi's eye acting here. So full of shock, worry and fear at the same time.

My Thoughts

You know, most dramas end after our main couple marries. If we are very lucky, we get to see them with their kids for a few seconds, and if we're extremely lucky, we get an entire episode that is a epilogue, and we get to see them have a life together.

Some people have been commenting that they wouldn't have minded if Against the Current had ended at episode 38 or episode 39. And in a way, I agree. It would have been a neat ending because it would have been a great way to cling on to a happily ever after.

I consider the episodes after episode 39 like an extended epilogue after our characters finally come together as one.

Even after our couple's union, they will still go through ups and downs, and for the first time in a long time, a Chinese drama dared to explore that and say, "After marriage, there's no happily ever after. After marriage, life continues on, but you know you have someone at your side to weather its ups and downs."

How often do we see our male leads welcome their kid to the world, hang out with their in-laws, and spend time with their wives and such? Not every moment is happy—in between the happy moments are illnesses, betrayals, disappointments, and sadly, death.

Against the Current is really unique because we get to see that, and that's why I firmly believe that this is not really just an ordinary romance drama, and it'll be remiss to treat it as such or expect the plot to deliver the same highs and lows.

This is a women's drama (like women's fiction, but the drama version).

I know that a lot of people think that episode 39 stumbled. To me, it was just told differently, and after rewatching episode 39, I grew to appreciate it more.

I look forward to a new episode of Against the Current every day, and I am gonna miss this show desperately once it goes. I have not seen a drama—a long drama—that made me think deeply about living my best life, about being a woman, for a long, long while.

This is how long dramas should be made. And if we have more of these, I'll be the luckiest CDrama viewer in the world.

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u/Lotus_swimmer — 11 days ago
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Fed up of one sided relationships

I have become fed up of one sided relationships in cdramas. The same cold unfeeling heroine is repeated. The Ml is always the one pursuing, he is the one who makes mistakes and then have to spend the last arc groveling like he doesn't have any self respect. Even if the Fl makes mistakes it remains un acknowledged.

In some dramas the fl is a normal emotional human being but suddenly after the main conflict between the leads, fl is so unfeeling and cold only to show that they are strong. Like in "are you the one" they didn't even show her missing the ml, its perfectly natural to miss your significant other, even if you broke up.

Like they have to show that fl can live alone just fine and doesn't need a man. But no one wants to be alone. Everyone desires a companion in life. It is the basic need of humans.

Only the ml is fighting for them to be together, the world and the fl herself like in pursuit of jade

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u/RubabMadani — 10 days ago
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Watching Word of Honor and: I AM UPSET

EXCUSE ME WHAT?!?

Warning: Language

I'm on episode >!35!<

And EXCUSE ME WHAT?!?

I'm only 12 minutes in so let me give you a recap of where I am.

Cao Wei Ning just >!got fucking murdered by his shifu, who I knew was bad news but I mean.WHAT?!!<

Gu Xiang is >!on the verge of death and honestly it makes sense because if she lives on without her beloved that would be even more sad but if anyone deserves the killing blow. It is her.!<

Liu Qian Qiao (Beauty Ghost) just >!killed her shitty lover, which I can't care less about. BUT THEN GOT STABBED HERSELF AS WELL.!<

And ladies and gentlemen, that, is where I clicked off the episode.

Incoming spoiler for a different drama

The last time I felt like this was episode >!18!< of >!The Story of Pearl Girl!<. And I never actually >!watched episode 19, or the rest of the drama BECAUSE OF THAT ONE EPISODE.!<

I still haven't opened up Youku again. I can't stop with >!two episodes left.!<

But... Come on, man!

Mandatory MDL link because I can't be bothered with properly formatting this post.

Word of Honor (2021) 山河令

Update

I finished the drama, and thoughts:

>!Episode 35 was the worst of it. I was fearful of more deaths but I was so desensitized already that hearing of the other ghosts' deaths didn't impact me much. Probably would have been worse if I saw Tragicomic Ghost's death because I really liked her.!<

Furthermore,

>!I saw the special episode, or alternative ending or whatever you want to call it. There are some dramas like!< (separate spoiler tag in case someone hasn't seen the drama I'm about to mention but click at your own risk) >! Mysterious Lotus Casebook!< where the ending >!can really be interpreted as either happy or sad, like, it's widely debated - this drama has a filmed ending (only available on Viki it seems also, a lovely Redditor posted it here) where they are actually both alive.!<

So, in the end,

>!I would have been content with just the ending on Youku (and Netflix apparently) and not as heartbroken because much like the other drama I mentioned, it would make sense either way regarding their life and death.!< But >!keep in mind that Ye Bai Yi literally says (I'm quoting directly) "Shutup! No one dies. I'm still alive. No one could die before me" I realise he gave all his energy and stuff to Wen Ke Xing but I highly doubt he gave his power to Ke Xing and just peaced out and fell flat dead on the floor. He probably withered slowly and died in peace. In my opinion. Also, three people, one gives his power to the other one so that the other one can give the power to the other other one. If one has to die, it would be Ye Bai Yi!<

Anyway, if you haven't seen Word of Honor don't rage quit after episode >!35!< it's still worth the watch and your (mood spoiler) >!heart doesn't stay in the state that the episode leaves you in!<

So, this turned into a post about the whole ending, huh?

u/AquaphobicTurtle — 11 days ago
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Irreplaceable 无可替代 (2026) - Discussion of Episode 10

Discussion posts will follow the normal Youku VIP schedule. (The drama is also available on Netflix.)

Important Links: Masterpost - All Episode Discussions - Episodes 1-2 - Eps 3-4 - Eps 5-6 - Ep 7 - Ep 8 - Ep 9

Episode 10

Does that friend of his like him? Also, the mention of losing his father, is it related to his Monte Cristo plan? Funny how both leads want to have something as a result of their lacking parents. Xinzhi wants to collect all the elements of the periodic table and Xu Chi wants to get her mom's house.

Xinzhi assumes he no longer stands a chance with Xu Chi, while she looks at the doll he gave her and wonders what his true intentions are. Xu Chi is perceptive enough to tell that Xinzhi feels something more, but because of how he handled her feelings previously, she hesitates to reach out and ask for clarification.

Her internal debate leads her to the same conclusion: she needs to move on. This prompts her to reply to Yang Rui. Never one to waste an opportunity, Yang Rui calls her immediately.

https://i.redd.it/5o2hx9qqgith1.gif

It seems Xu Chi will try using a relationship with Yang Rui to get over Xinzhi. We all know it will not work, but it is an interesting development regardless. Xu Chi will realize her true feelings for Xinzhi, while Xinzhi will see her moving on and realize he cannot simply let her go.

Before Xu Chi turns in for the night, her upstairs neighbors get into a noisy argument.

Foreshadowing the breakup before the relationship even starts.

The next morning, the Celestial team gathers in a meeting room awaiting the results. Yang Rui secretly reaches for Xu Chi’s hand, and as promised, she does not pull away. Ma Ke soon receives news that Celestial has officially agreed to proceed with Maximse’s Plan B proposal! Everyone celebrates the victory, except for Tina.

Out on the street, Xu Chi is trying to hail a ride to Celestial when Zhao Heng pulls up, offering to drop her off.

Zhao Heng is as perceptive as ever!

He notices immediately that she lacks genuine romantic feelings for Yang Rui. Even though she claims they are simply testing the waters, he refutes her logic, explaining that love requires a spark rather than mere effort.

Their friendship is fantastic! Zhao Heng does not feel like a competitive threat to Xu Chi the way Tina initially did, likely because career ambition is not the central core of his personality. While he certainly possesses his own drive, his grounded nature allows Xu Chi to feel completely comfortable around him.

Speaking of Tina, we check in with her as she buries herself in work at her family home. A maid enters her room to retrieve a toy for Jie, Tina’s younger brother, and accidentally spills a drink. The situation escalates into a heated argument about Tina’s standing in the household.

https://i.redd.it/flrwkbh4gith1.gif

The constant lectures regarding her personality seem to be weighing heavily on her. Reflecting on her mother’s words, she even fetches cake from the fridge for her father when she hears him return home.

This was so frustrating to watch! Poor Tina almost fell for their manipulation, had she not accidentally overheard their conversation. Hearing her own family plot ways to systematically curb her career and ambition must sting deeply

The following day, Tina is in full work mode, but she pushes herself far past her limits.

Ironically, she passes out from low blood sugar once again, and Xu Chi steps in to assist her.

Xu Chi takes her back home and confronts her about what is really happening.

https://i.redd.it/qlq4v1erfith1.gif

Tina confesses that Mr. Zheng from Celestial accepted her initial proposal solely because her father intervened behind the scenes. When Xu Chi asks why, Tina reveals that her father actively opposes her independent success. He wants her to succeed only enough to play second fiddle to her younger brother without ever taking center stage.

The less we hear from her father, the better! He is such an infuriating character.

Tina admits that her desperation to reach partner by age 35 stems from her need to prove herself capable of inheriting the Siwei Group. She reveals that her father deliberately engineers work setbacks so she will grow exhausted and return to the family business. That way, her career will remain locked in traditional finance without the ability to pivot elsewhere.

Just like that, the two besties are firmly back on the same side!

Tina declares she is ready to go confront Xinzhi for hurting her friend, but Xu Chi holds her back and drags her back inside.

This part was hilarious! The way they argue over who has it worse was so funny.

Xu Chi confides that while she knows Xinzhi set a firm boundary, his mixed signals keep causing her feelings to waver. Tina grows incensed on her behalf and attempts to march out to confront Xinzhi once again.

https://i.redd.it/4a2we865fith1.gif

Xu Chi admits she agreed to try things with Yang Rui largely because of Xinzhi’s reaction to seeing them together. She wants to be the first to move on and make him feel the weight of his own choice.

Random fangirling moment, but how gorgeous is Zhao Jinmai! The way the light hits her in this shot is stunning! What a talented darling!

https://i.redd.it/jjphpahqeith1.gif

Tina reflects on Xu Chi's words long after she leaves. As if summoned by her thoughts, Zhao Heng calls her completely out of breath.

Poor boy sprinted from the 17th floor when he heard the news.

She is touched by his call, even while maintaining her fiery exterior. He explains that he ran all the way down from the 17th floor before realizing he lacked her address and that security would not admit him anyway.

She basically invites him directly over to her place!

In the next scene, the doorbell rings at Tina’s apartment. After a quick check in the mirror, she opens the door to find...

https://i.redd.it/q2dtardvyhth1.gif

Touched by his gesture, she snaps at him to mask her embarrassment. Zhao Buka steps inside, declaring himself her personal magical elf. She continues snapping at him, which is clearly her defense mechanism kicking in. She is so accustomed to guarded relationships that she does not know how to process genuine affection and her own budding feelings for Zhao Heng.

Zhao Heng has become an absolute expert at handling her moods! Among the snacks he brought, he remembered the ice cream, exactly as she requested.

this was nice. I liked seeing this.

The following day, Xu Chi and Tina are back in business mode, staging a playful face-off in the company lobby. They promise to give their absolute all as friendly rivals.

Later, Yang Rui and Xu Chi attend a strategy meeting regarding the proposal. Yang Rui asks her to let him take the lead, but it quickly becomes apparent that he made numerous key decisions without consulting her. The entire presentation unravels when the client walks out, largely because Yang Rui refused to listen to Xu Chi’s helpful interventions during the meeting.

https://i.redd.it/eebgztaiwhth1.gif

Overall Thoughts

The friendship dynamic between Xu Chi and Tina is officially restored, and I could not be happier! Watching them bond over their shared struggles and compare whose situation was worse was hilarious!!!

Tina learning the truth about her father's sabotage hurts but I am glad the situation allowed for my besties to go back to being besties again.

Meanwhile, Zhao Heng continues to prove why he is the best guy in this drama! From calling out Xu Chi’s rebound attempt with Yang Rui to running down 17 floors out of worry. I love him so much.

On the work front, Yang Rui's fake confidence completely ruined his presentation with the client. Using a rebound relationship to get over Xinzhi was always going to end badly, but seeing Yang Rui dismiss Xu Chi's professional input in that meeting proves he is definitely not the right fit for her!

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u/roxylal — 11 days ago
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Shadow Punisher 魅影神捕 (2026): Episode 9-10 Discussion

Welcome to the second instalment of the Shadow Punisher 魅影神捕discussion posts.

/u/roxylal will do tomorrows post.

🗓️ Discussion Schedule: We follow the VIP schedule. That’s the first line on the official airing schedule, which can be found here.

📋 Some Notes:

  • Please use spoiler tags for anything beyond the episodes discussed. Text goes between the greater-than (>) + exclamation (!) symbols (>!) and the exclamation (!) + lesser-than (<) symbols.

🔗 Helpful Links: Masterpost & Episode 1-6 discussion | Ep. 7-8

✒️ Generals Stuff:

With this having 30 episodes we are already one third through the whole show.

#New Characters: Chu Huan’er - Crown Princess. Lauded as the ‘virtuous Crown Princess’ by the public but not really respected by her husband.

Mr Tao - a physician working for the Divine Constable Bureau

Yin Kui - Lou Tianming’s underling of some kind.

#Episode 9

The last person who had contact with the detained Lou Tianming was Eunuch Zhao. His visit was monitored, though he got very close to the detained, nearly got his ear bitten of. Eunuch Zhao gets a beating by the Crown Prince for rushing to do an interrogation and making the Eastern Palace look suspicious and involved in his escape.

  • while this happens the opera singers just power through their performance. I guess they must witness a lot of crazy stuff performing for the Shi Empire elite. Very professional.
  • the Crown Princess pleads for the Eunuch, which leads to a situation where the Crown Prince tries to take his anger out on his wife.
  • Eunuch Zhao took care of their child, Ye’er, for years. The child seems to have some condition or illness that doesn’t get better. The Crown Prince blames the Crown Princess for that.

So the situation in the Eastern Palace is, as so often in cdramas, highly erratic.

Hunting for Princes

Meanwhile Li Si ponders the possibility of their being a mole in the Divine Constable Bureau. He studies the entry records for the Prison.

The Chief pleads with the emperor to release the truth about the Black Chest case to the public, but the emperor is unwilling to do so without having real proof for Wen Bu’s faked death.

  • The Chief argues that the real Wen Bu has to be in the Shi Empire as well. Finding him might end the impending war before it really breaks out.
  • So the members of the Divine Constable Bureau gets dispatched for the search for him and Lou Tianming.
  • After three days there is still not a single clue.

Li Si visits the Underworld Market. Not for clues, but to get Lou Tianming’s eagle healed. That eagle leads him, disguised as Lou Tianming, to the real Wen Bu’s hiding place.

  • Lou Tianming has some connections to the Kingdom of Liluo and the demons there.
  • The Wen Bu Li Si meet at the Star-Gathering-Pavilion was still the real one.

Interlude for Religous Stuy

We get an interlude of a mysterious woman talking about the six ancient god of Lilun that represent Immortality, Prophecy, Lies, Hatred, Disaster and Death.

The stone steles for

  1. God of Immortality, Kelu

God of Prophecy, Rangang

connected to the first two cases have already crumbled.

It feels a bit like those six gods seal something bigger or at least some secret? She seems to be ok with them falling.

So Lies, Hatred, Disaster and Death will be the themes for the other four cases.

Dark Nights and Brotherly Treason

Li Si apprehended Wen Bu in an off-screen fight and brought him to the Bureau, where he was interrogated.

  • Lou Tianming is backed by an organisation called The Dark Night (to be properly dramatic for this kind of drama).
  • Their members are all described as being neither human nor ghost ans swear allegiance to Liluo.
  • In the third year of Zhengwu’s reign Emperor Wuzong (the first Emperor of Shi) wiped out that place (as we already new, the exact year is an addition). So they most likely want a late revenge for that.
  • Years ago Xuanyuan Shan refused a marriage arranged by the Emperor in favour of her job. She even had to swear not to marry, due to the Xuanyuan family having so much influence with her sister being the Empress and her the Chief.

Li Si has his master visit at the Star-Gathering Pavilion. He gets scolded for using the Soaring Dragon Thousand-Mechanism Formation again. (I guess that happened to arrest Wen Bu) and is not allowed to drink due to internal injuries.

  • The search for Meng Rui is still on, the emperor still wants to use him as a scapegoat.
  • Li Si’s investigation in his two eldest brothers revealed that the 1st Prince falsely reported a military emergency to lure the Emperor away. Then he notified the 2nd Prince and both conspired to kill Li Si at the Mulan Hunting Ground.
  • After his alleged death the Emperor learned about the false report and that’s why the 1st Prince lost the Ministry of War, though he gave it up voluntarily. He also silenced all the people involved, thus the high death count of former Ministry of War personnel.
  • The Emperor favours stability at the court to such a degree he didn’t really investigate.

Recovery

Li Si brings the still deeply injured Meng Rui back to the Divine Constable Bureau. So know the aforementioned Mr Tao can care for him, but he is unsure about his success. Bai Zhenzhu also treats him with acupuncture.

  • He dreams of his childhood, flying a kite with his younger brother.
  • Li Si paid for a lot of tonics to help him recover.
  • Mr Tao declares his condition stable, but Meng Rui lost in a dream, his will to live diminished.
  • Li Si tries to wake him by unsheathing Meng Rui’s sword, which leads to him dreaming about his families demise and him waking up for a moment. How dare someone touch his sword!

Meng Rui’s place has some interesting interior decoration going on. Very ‘out and about in the Jianghu’.

After two days of recovery Meng Rui wants to jump back into action again. His colleagues urge him to rest more.

Like Li Si, being carried in.

The sedan chair was brought in for Meng Rui, who is forced into using it.

Father-Daughter Problems

Grand Secretary Bai meets his daughter while trying to visit the Chief Constable. He gifts his daughter a sachet. Bai Zhenzhu isn’t impressed with that gift and doesn’t want to be put in the same category as other young noble ladies.

  • She is 23 and unmarried, which her father isn’t happy about. Typical costume drama father-daughter conflict here. At least they seem to honestly care about each other (for now).
  • She treats Li Si to a meal at Star-Gathering Pavilon for saving her father.
  • He invites her to call him by his name going forward, while she inquires about his true background.
  • She doesn’t get a straight answer, instead Li Si compares himself to a piece on a Go board. He hints at his history through go terminology and plays.
  • Because the play takes place in the real world he can’t lose for the sake of the common people, also on the board.

For capturing Prince Wen Bu in the Black Chest Case Li Si is promoted to Divine Constable of the Bureau. Finally he has access to Tianshu Pavilion and promptly visits the archive.

Which has some cool set design going on.

#Episode 10

Cute little Prince before the Tragedy

Li Si works competently through the elaborate record filling system of the archive and gets several documents about the Mulan Hunting Ground incident. In one it’s noted down that he allegedly died during a hunt in a mountain fire. What follows is a flashback to that day and little Zhou Yan.

  • On the hunting ground he meets another little boy dressed in very similar clothes to his own. He shares the grasshopper toy the Emperor himself made for him with that boy to calm him down.
  • Dressed so similar the boy is killed instead of Zhou Yan and a fire is set.
  • Zhou Yan is attacked (?) by a puppet.

He continues his search, this time for the case of missing children that took place in the same year to maybe get a clue about the boys identity. He finds a case file titles “On the Disappearance of the Shen Family of Four”.

  • This case took place on the 8th day of the 2nd lunar month, so one day before the hunt.
  • The scholar Shen Baoquan and his family of four went missing from a town near the capital and the case remains unsolved.
  • The children of that family were Shen Jing’an, 11 years old and Shen Lan, 8 years old. The younger boy is a potential match.

Li Si enters another room of the archive which contains the (to the viewer) familiar stone steles of the ancient Lilun gods. The arriving Chief Constable explains to him what he sees on the murals:

  • Qipi, the God of Lies
  • Haiqu, the God of hatred
  • Qiuyu, the God of Calamity
  • Hanluo, the God of Death

They are kept here due to being so ominous. There is no word lost about the reason two of them are destroyed. Li Si is warned by the Chief about even the closest people around him being not who they seem to be.

I guess that plays into the Lies theme we will get next?

Welcome to the Neigbourhood

In Yeqiao town, from where the Shen family vanished, Meng Rui draws a picture of the tattoo the men attacking not only the Vanguard camp but also his family had on their neck. Li Si visits the same town, looking for the Shen families adress only to find Meng Rui there.

  • turns out it’s his house and Li Si tries to play it like he went for a visit. That lie doesn’t work out because none of Meng Rui’s colleagues know this address.
  • quite obviously (at this point) Shen Jing’an changed his name to Meng Rui and his younger brother died instead of Li Si.

Li Si still owns the grasshopper made by his father.

  • the Emperor seemed to have seen Zhou Yan as his successor before his death, even though he was only around 8 years old when he "died".
  • he also concludes that Meng Rui is very likely Shen Jing’an. That fits the Chiefs warning about people not being who they seem, even those around him.

Li Si returns to Meng Rui’s home to pester him some more while he trains to get back on his feet after his injury. And became his neighbour to have a good reason to sit on their shared wall. He gifts Meng Rui a kite to gauge his reaction, which is kind of cruel. Meng Rui flashbacks to the night his family was torn apart and destroys the kite.

  • Li Si updates him on news related to the Bureau.
  • On that occasion he notices that Meng Rui has the Kui Wood Wolf constellation on his back, which is kind of a magical tattoo he got when he learned the Severe-Cold Sword technique from Dao Yin. It appears when he channels his energy.
  • Li Si notices the drawing of the bug and offers to help Meng Rui to investigate.

I am.

Five Wonders

They both travel to the entrance of the Underworld Market. Meng Rui remembers him going after some merchants there to become a constable and I’m quite certain he pieces that little scheme together during the visit.

  • Turns out the insect is a Chiying and part of the Five Wonders of Liluo.
  • There are rumours they like to gather around graves and they were seen in Mingling County, Qingzhou.
  • That’s also the place were Su Wei, the one guy from the Ministry of War list who didn’t die, vanished.
  • The poison of a hundred bites can turn a person into a demon and strengthen them. So that what happened to the attackers.

The Five Wonder of Liluo are:

  1. Chiying bugs light the fire, eroding bones to spawn demons. (the bugs)

  2. Luo flowers condense into jade, turning white hair black again. (Tianmoluo, the fruit of immortality from the first case)

  3. Puppets pulled by moss threads, having neither tears nor heart. (Puppetry)

  4. The moon’s reflection turns into the flower in the mirror, replacing old bones with new faces.

  5. The Canglang tide boils, and the Eight Wastelands breathe together.

Going to Mingling

Li Si is certain that the Chief and the Emperor both already know about hese five wonders and the possible dangers for Great Shi through them. He suggests himself and Meng Rui teaming-up to visit Mingling County.

  • Li Si tries to trick the Chief into letting them go there via a report of a green-haired demon appearing on Mount Fuyao
  • Meng Rui adds his own lie of wanting to recuperate further in his alleged ancestral home to that.
  • They are both terrible liars, but Meng Rui’s is actually successful.
  • Li Si is ordered to help the Ministry of Justice instead.
  • Bai Zhenzhu and Yan Cheng on the other hand are allowed to accompany Meng Rui for various reasons.

In a cave located in a wasteland some new half-demons are made via the Chiying bugs. One of them is Lou Tianming, who gets a make-over of the edgy kind.

#Thoughts

Long day, so just: Still loving it.

The hunting trip incidents gets even more mysterious. Obviously someone installed poor Shen Lan as a double for Li Si. But who? And what exactly was the plan here? Just having him escape? That feels a bit useless? Did that someone bring him to his master? I guess we will learn about everything in due time.

u/Regenwanderer — 11 days ago
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A Prophet 我不是大师 (2026) Episode 20 Discussion

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We go down memory lane to the first soul-trapping event between the Zhang and Li families, initiated by the older sect master.

The grandmaster informs Chengming that since the Zhang family found out that Li Ling was saved, they have hired the Salt Gang to handle the Tianxiang Sect.

He says Chengming must find Li Ling and kill her, and the matter will be settled. He says that CM should choose between Li Ling and Feiyan. Of course, he chooses our his girl, Jiang Feiyan.

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The Plot Twist!

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  • Aunty Yingjuan says that Shangguan Hong sent her to Chengming, and that's why she approached him in the first place.
  • Chengming says the letter was written by the grandmaster because Hong died 8 years ago.

We go down memory lane to 30 years ago, when Shangguan Hong and the sect master were completing a soul-trapping ritual.

  • Hong seemed reluctant; it also seems she was pregnant by this time.
  • She saves Li Yingjuan from the ritual.

Back to the present day:

  • 2nd Batou and Jiang Feiyan are locked up in a cage, and the Salt Gang has really messed him up.
  • After Jiang Feiyan manages to get rid of the Salt Gang, 2nd Batou asks if she really set Li Ling free and if Chengming was involved.

You can't expect someone to love you because you have helped them alot, that's not love.

  • Chengming decides to play the 6th Batou and Grandmaster at their game.
  • He gets Li Ling made up to look like a zombie, and they go back to the Zhang residence, where she plays a very believable role, and the Zhangs ask Chengming to take her back.
  • Later, he goes back to get Feiyan, but 2nd Batou starts fighting him.
  • Chengming and Feiyan manage to convince the 2nd Batou that the enemy is 6th Batou, and he stops his attack.

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Thoughts?

  • I was screaming let's go! at the end.
  • I loved this episode because now we are getting some proper action within the sect.
  • One thing I know is that the 4th Batou and his Wife hated doing bad things and would blindly pick Chengming and Feiyan's side, and now they have the 2nd Batou as well(It's still shaky, but in a takedown, I think our odds are pretty good lol if we include ZD). I'm just not sure what team 3rd and 7th Batou would play for, but the one with the highest odds of winning, because they love their lives.
  • Look at me, I'm already planning a wrestling match, haha, but I really enjoyed this episode.

So Pretty!

The discussion for Express episodes 21- 23 will be posted tomorrow.

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u/Stormraury_ — 11 days ago