r/Chriswatts

CW lives in a la-la land

The way he whined and moaned to NK about having to spend money on his family, and the common everyday irritations of family life and marriage. It's like he expected life to be one, long party.

Reminds me of Chris Longo, who ran down to Mexico to party after murdering his family. These are very immature men besides being completely evil. They live in a kind of la-la land. CW continues this fantasy behavior in prison, comparing himself to Jesus Christ and visualizing being some great chaplain ministering to all the prisoners. Delusions of grandeur.

Imo this is why family life eventually, inevitably stops satisfying these types and they annihilate their families. Real life and real people can never live up to the unrealistic expectations in their heads...

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u/cloudyweather70 — 1 day ago

Is it true Chris had or has a custodial job in his protective custody unit? How did he get that over other inmates who might want it?

I'm far from an expert on what it's like in prison. I have heard this job is somewhat desirable for the inmates because it allows them to get out of their cell for a while that they wouldn't otherwise (possibly otherwise they are in the cell 23 hours a day). Don't know if it's true. But if it is, would think Chris would be pretty low in order to get the job? As in less popular than other inmates in the unit.

I would think that by being out of his cell more he's also more vulnerable to being attacked by another inmate. Although maybe not, maybe he's out mopping and sweeping when the rest of the inmates are spending those 23 hours in the cells. Although seems possible someone from another unit might somehow sneak in and attack him. But don't know. Wonder if the guards/prison admin may have been setting him up to be attacked. Or maybe he took it thinking perhaps subconsciously he might be attacked and subconsciously wanting it.

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u/GregJamesDahlen — 1 day ago

As a man, this story scares the fuck out of me. Will I just “snap” one day? Do I have dead eyes??

It makes me feel queasy. Should I never have kids just to prevent something like this from happening? Is anyone susceptible? The guy looked so happy. Wtf. Kinda freaking out

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u/South_Farm_8976 — 1 day ago

Chris watts featured in a music video??

Chris in a music video???

this is really bothering me. i was watching a music video recently on my favorite song ("one margarita" by luke bryan) and suddenly this guy appears in the frame dancing. i was shocked. this is clearly chris, right?? this is just a screen grab but in the video is more clear. hes holding two margaritas and dancing next to luke. actually weirdly close to luke to be honest.

obviously this must have been before the crime but when would he have time to do this? and would shannan have ever allowed this?? mabe this was a vacation and he mistakenly got in the frame? thoughts??? concerns?

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u/Pistachio-IScream — 3 days ago

I feel like I have gotten somewhere on CW.

I’ve watched documentaries, reviewed body cam footage, watched interrogations, watched police interviews, read testimonies from family and friends of both CW and Shannan. Have read books about the case. Have read opinion articles and factual articles. Have watched deep dives and conspiracy theories. I’ve gone all in on this and tonight feel I can start to make sense of it.

*********Also, this is purely my OPINION and based on my research. This is how I perceive it. It does not mean I’m correct.**************

Shannan was a strong individual. Theres no denying that. With her early childhood isolation and health problems, she persevered. Even building her own mansion at such a young age is just unheard of. She was a golden woman who Chris never deserved. He never deserved his kids or his unborn son. A woman like her would never have given him the time of day, if it wasn’t for her heart. She was gorgeous and funny and talented and amazingly intelligent. And I believe her childhood rejection and her lupus and fibromyalgia brought down her self esteem, where she unconsciously or consciously settled for Chris. It was even said that they didn’t hit it off amazingly well in the beginning. It was when he took care of her during her lupus flareup is when she fell for him.

Chris and his mistress on the other hand were both meek and complacent. I believe when Nichol Kessinger showed any interest in Chris that it shocked him as he had never been the one who was pursued. Nichol was the same level as Chris on terms of being laid back and unambitious. They went to work, did their thing, and “all was good man.” They both were free spirits and wanted to just have a burger and go play. Nichol was the girlfriend Chris never had when he was younger. The one where you just fuck off and nothing matters.

Which, brings up another issue. Shannan was truly good for Chris. And here’s why. The people in my life who have tested me and made me work harder are those who have been there for me the most. Those who have let me do my thing but say they are always there for me, have all disappeared. Shanann’s determination and dominant personality was true love, even though Chris couldn’t see it. She was fiercely devoted to him, where as all he saw was a controller. It’s because she fought back and checked him on his bullshit. And his ego couldn’t handle that.

So, Chris decided to eliminate his wife and his kids and erase what he felt was a mistake in his life. Even though he was laid back, he was very meticulous and I felt he was a perfectionist, meaning annihilating his family was the only logical solution to him. He thought if he could take them out of the equation that he could start fresh. Just like finishing his auto projects and beginning on another car. Chris was very mechanical in his thinking.

From first hearing about this case with extreme bewilderment to diving deep into it, I can begin to understand more the complexities of Chris. He is a spineless and selfish person, who I believe is undiagnosed autistic. (I am autistic btw and when Chris talked about not wanting to be filmed or be the center of attention and just wanting to work on his cars, is how I feel. I’m very antisocial.) But, I have empathy and compassion for others so much that it takes a toll on me. I can’t imagine being heartless. I can’t fathom it. What Chris did was so abhorrent, it’s just beyond words.

Shannan would have gone on to do amazing things. Regardless, their marriage would have crumbled, but she would have gone on to be more successful. It’s who she was. She was a go getter. Even though I’m antisocial, I am in awe of her ability market herself and how charismatic she was.

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u/Lucky_Helicopter_816 — 4 days ago

Interesting video on the effects of isolation on Chris

The effects are not good. Deterioration of mind. Says the trying to blame others for the crimes is somewhat what people do, predictable. Idea that he has to be exceptionally isolated because in danger from other inmates.

Edit: Lives with constant tension of being physically attacked by other inmates.

I thought I remember him having a custodial job, though, which would get him out of his cell some. So actually he may be less isolated than some in there?

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u/GregJamesDahlen — 4 days ago

How CW lulled Shanann into a false sense of security

I’ve seen people wonder why Shanann would take a 6 week trip to NC if her marriage was in trouble.

The thing is, before she left, she didn't know it was in trouble.

CW was being very lovey dovey with her. She told him in a text that before she left, he couldn't keep his hands off her (Discovery page 2102, pdf 1907). So that wasn't just something she told friends to make things look better than they actually were.

These photos are from the last Thrive trip they took together to San Diego, CA at the end of June 2018.

CW holds Shanann on the boat, rubs her back by the pool. This was just 1-2 days before she went to NC. How could she have known? He deceived her.

I believe he deliberately sweet talked her so she would go to NC thinking everything was fine. Because right after she left he was jumping in bed with NK.

And I mean immediately. Shanann and the girls left on June 26, and the very next day CW was texting NK about a “cheat meal” of “ice cream, cookies and lollipops”.

Two days after that, he was telling her that “sleeping without your warm body next me isn't going to be fun tonight”.

He did the same thing again, four days before the murders - he suddenly became amenable and agreed to work on the marriage. I believe he did this so Shanann would go to AZ and he could put his murder plans in motion.

This seems to have been his M.O. - to lull her into a false sense of security so he could do something behind her back.

This is the real Chris Watts - sneaky, manipulative, two faced. Says one thing and does another.

It makes me wonder what other things he did behind her back while smiling to her face, during the 8 years they were together…

u/cloudyweather70 — 8 days ago

Lupus Target

Did Chris Watts target Shannan planning for her to die and him to collect insurance, and did he intend, because people don't die quickly of lupus, to hasten her death?

What do people here know about his financial history?

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u/Immediate_Duck7068 — 8 days ago

Horrifying final days of killer dad Chris Watts' pregnant wife before she was slaughtered alongside their daughters. Read all the chilling texts and receipts in full for first time: 'My eyes burn from crying'

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u/dailymail — 7 days ago

Been listening to the first interrogation a lot just to see if I’m missing anything…

First off, Coder does an amazing job at coming across as sort of bumbling and knowledgeable on the case. He does such a good job at letting Chris talk and not getting in his way. Also very good at stroking Chris’s ego with the weight loss praise and etc. IMO the whole interrogation is Coder playing mind games with Chris, even when he’s not actively asking him about infidelity or if he did it. There are a lot of moments where Coder is asking the same question different ways trying to see if Chris changed his story. And enough times where he essentially puts it into Chris’s mind that he KNOWS what he’s saying is BS… like the Preschool call topic, or calling hotels and etc.

Second… if you pay attention, besides the distancing language Chris often used (before he corrected himself), you can hear phrases and thoughts of how annoyed he was with ShanAnn. Paraphrasing here… but Coder asked “Is the closet missing some clothes to where she might’ve taken stuff to leave” Chris immediately goes “I mean… she has so many clothes in there… it would be hard to tell”. Signaling that he doesn’t think she needs all those clothes/probably was angry with her for spending money on things he didn’t think were important. “Does she have a laptop???” “Yeah… but she barely uses it….” Chris must’ve bought it for her and since she didn’t use it, he resented her bc in his narcissistic brain, he felt “Oh I’m the savior for getting this for her”.

“When we look into your phone, what is something we can look for that might help us” “you know the only thing that’s weird is… when she uploaded it to the cloud it duplicated all of our contacts… so there’s double of everyone in there” him getting angry at ShanAnn for syncing their contacts and now he’s got duplicate contacts. Coder plays it off by saying “Yeah I hate that!!!”

The whole interview with Coder came off as Chris being annoyed at things ShanAnn did…

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u/SkylerCFelix — 10 days ago

What is wrong with CW’s parents?

I see people always comment on how horrible CW’s mom is, which rightfully so. She is detestable. Absolutely horrific woman. But, what about CW’s dad? I watched the interrogation and was mortified to see how he acted. For context, I grew up with a father who gave me no slack. In fact, my father was downright abusive physically and verbally. One time, when I was a teenager, I was being questioned by police and detained and my father was a witness and he told the police officer, “do what you need to with him.” Funny thing is I didn’t do anything. I was completely innocent and when the cops let me go, I was like, how could you do me like that dad, when I didn’t even do anything. He said, “not my place to get involved. You make your own choices”.

CW annihilated his wife and his girls and unborn son….the grandchildren of his parents…..and his dad’s reaction is as if he got a DUI. Even when he lied and said it was Shannan, that doesn’t make it any better!!!! His dad showed no care or concern for his grandchildren!!! I know they hated Shanann, but the girls and Nico were part of CW!!! Wouldn’t the dad care in the slightest that he lost the heir to carrying on the Watt’s name?

It just makes no sense to me.

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u/iloveyouiknow77 — 12 days ago

Chris really folded like a deck chair in his interrogation

For context, I’m going down this rabbit hole for the first time as I’ve avoided watching anything related to the Watts case until recently. I was the same with the Lori Vallow case. It’s just so emotionally disturbing.

Watching this alien try disguise himself as a human “I miss like the kids like sitting at the dinner table and like having to tell them to eat their dinner” 👁️👄👁️

He really came in and picked up the Straight To Jail card.

It’s so satisfying this dumbass POS didn’t get to enjoy a single moment of his ‘new life’ that he so desperately wanted. Rest in distress ⛓️

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u/luminous__fairy — 13 days ago

never forget.

I’ve been thinking about Shanann, Cece, Bella & Nico a lot so I am rewatching their documentary… still as gut wrenching as the first time I heard the story. He is the lowest most pathetic kind of man and every day I open my phone and hope I see a post that he’s been attacked in prison for what he did to his beautiful family. I hope the faces of his beautiful little girls and their screams haunt him even after death.

As for Shanann, cece, Bella & Nico, I will continue to say prayers for you all the time and hope you guys are resting together safely and happy all things considering🥺

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u/Piscessunlovergirl — 12 days ago