r/DigitalPrivacy

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Again another likely social media ban/age verification supporter

(no offense to anyone, do not attack anyone mentioned in the photos, including that person. I don't want this post to be considered brigading and this post is just for public awareness)

I'm pretty sure you may've heard of this person, especially on threads talking about social media bans, but they likely support the social media bans and is trying to basically spread a one-sided, fallacy view around age verification, ID verification, social media bans, etc.

Pretty much in most posts about social media bans or age verification, they will make a comment actively trying to defend the bans. They believe it either has to be "all kids should be on social media or no kids should be on social media at all" like if it's an all or nothing strategy. That's obviously false. Not all families, even those with kids use the Internet, right?

They are also very hesitant to actually listen to opponents of age verification and will keep spreading the same pro-AV/SMB stance to people, using tons of logical fallacies and not listening to real privacy concerns. It's likely they support the social media bans for minors. They don't even know that governments aren't trying to actually make the Internet safer.

Then, they will always talk about the "social norm" and apparently say that the bans/laws empower parents and change the so-called "social norm". That's obviously false, for two reasons. 1. Not all families have social media/Internet, but it is still increasingly common for the youth to use the Internet. and 2. They do not empower parents. The parents who want these bans really could've already set restrictions.

They once commented on my post and I tried to give them advice to take a break from talking about age verification because they don't understand the real truth properly and is just jumping to conclusions whatever. They framed my advice as a "personal attack" and blocked me. This user has had a long track record of wrongly persuading people to accept age verification without actually understanding the real risks of them.

Like, why won't they actually listen to constructive criticism and actually know how age verification's issues are? Seems like they have a tendency to get pretty defensive when called out rather than being like "hey, I should reconsider my stance, I should listen to people". They claim to be open-minded and even called me "close-minded", yet they're likely the one that's close-minded as their comment history (by searching their username on Reddit) shows they've had long a tendency to simply just not listen to anti-AV people.

Remember that they did hide their post/comment history on their profile, but just search their username in quotes like "USERNAME" then also some keywords related to social media bans/age verifications.

Before you guys suggest anything, I'm probably ignoring them and blocking them.

u/GabeReddit2012 — 5 hours ago

NEW ARTICLE: How Online Surveillance Capitalism Works. Your own data is used to make others rich, by influencing your spending and voting habits

How Online Surveillance Capitalism Works. Your own data is used to make others rich, by influencing your spending and voting habits. https://quokkadaily.au #privacy

u/QuokkaDaily — 7 hours ago

It will soon be illegal to simply exist as your average internet user in the UK.

Using VPNs. Using sites that aren't mainstream social media.

Watching porn. Saving images onto your computer from 4chan, reddit, boorus and porn sites. Nothing illegal, nothing extreme - just regular old porn. 2D or not.

Torrenting things - old movies, old video games, anime, or anything on streaming sites, so that what you watch or consume isn't tied to the name on your credit card.

Not having an OS tied to an account or, eventually, an ID.

Playing video games without the government or corporations knowing you're playing them.

I just despair, soon escapism will be illegal. All the gamers, introverts, young guys, anime watchers - your average internet user, we'll all be criminals one day. For clicking buttons and pressing keys on our keyboards. All within our own bedrooms, sitting on a chair or laying in bed. We never hurt anyone, we never flaunted it, until one day the government decided to care.

One day you'll do something and not know about it, because something became illegal. You'll right click and save a picture - a saucy image, or a politically charged meme. That will send a packet to your ISP, your ISP will then compare your IP address to your broadband billing information and pass it onto the police, who will then come to knock on your door.

Prisons are about to become very wholesome places to be. Let's all go together.

Enjoy the life we have enjoyed over the last 20 or so years, right up until the knock on the door and it's time to go.

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u/throwawaygram1234974 — 24 hours ago

Why are there always people who support age verifications/digital IDs/social media bans/etc.

(most names censored to prevent harassment)

I get really annoyed when I see these people (or even occasionally, see them comment on my posts). Almost always they will use the same garbage "protect the children" excuse or other stuff. I get it, of course there's issues with technology, but it's unrealistic to expect governments and/or companies to 100% parent your child and decide for them. It's like how governments wanted to ban violent video games for minors back in the day, yet gamers were highly concerned about these new laws, and even how South Korea tried to step into government-parenting children in 2011 with their failed Shutdown Law. That law would just set mandatory screentime limits for online video games for anyone under 16, yet it could be easily bypassed by just playing on mobile games or faking registration numbers by committing literal identity theft. I all see this same bullcrap excuse of statements that governments use to cover up their true intentions, moral panic statement garbage, etc.

The parents are the most annoying people in this group. They KNOW they can already set Internet limits and restrictions on their children, yet they want government-enforced parental controls on their children, sometimes as old as 15 or 17 that may be a teenager. I get it that the digital world can have some negative effects on people (which is literally debatable) but why can't parents just do it themselves? Yes, I understand there's many permissive parents, and there's also many good parents, but it's still important just like how you need to monitor what your child does on TV.

Then, there's the political extremists (the far rights supporting them are even worse than the lefts) who lurk on unhinged subreddits like right-wing echo chambers for example. They're also annoying but are so difficult to deal with. When you call them out they will call you a pedophile/predator just because you oppose these laws and say "you don't want to protect the kids, don't you?" Of course that statement's garbage, we all WANT to protect the kids but it doesn't seem like they want to protect the children, actually.

And, there's the younger adults (aged around 18-30 or so) who support these bans and seem to be even worse than the 50 year old people who support them. They tend to have some hypocritical or weird view about their usage on the Internet, and they used the Internet well before adulthood or so. They'll usually say "as a teen, it was fine for me to use the Internet 10-20 years ago, not now" yet they can already be parents and teach their children how to use the digital world and technology properly.

I know that very little kids (5 years old or so) should not have technology or any child in general should not have unrestricted Internet access, but I really get tired and sick of these supporters of this. I know that of course, all of this digital ID stuff is coming from stuff like the UK Online Safety Act, EU's Chat Control, Keir Starmer and Donald Trump, The Anxious Generation book and movement by Jonathan Haidt, Australia's social media ban, etc. and it's sadly not uncommon for people to be brainwashed into supporting absolute BS. It's like how there were people who supported the violent video games of the 2000s without realizing they would obviously fail. Like, I would not give a 2-5 year old any kind of technology at all, but maybe as a adolescent, I would just monitor them with digital boundaries and teaching them online safety, and be a good parent.

I'm looking at you, age verification supporters.

u/GabeReddit2012 — 1 day ago
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Regular people get searched like terrorists at airports. Why does crossing a national border erase all of your rights and pricacy?

The heavy handed treatment of ordinary people at airports is an indicator of what our governments would make daily life like if they thought they could.

u/amogusdevilman — 1 day ago
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Your car has been grading your driving and selling the report card

For a long time, careful drivers had a deal they could count on. Keep a clean record, skip the claims, and your insurance stayed reasonable. Your driving was judged on results. Did you crash? Did you get tickets? Did you cost the company money? If the answer was no, you were rewarded.

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That deal got rewritten, and most people never got the memo. A lot of newer cars now keep a running log of how you drive (every hard brake, every fast start, every late-night trip). In case after case that log has been handed to insurance companies before the driver ever filed a claim. The scorecard grew a second page, and this one grades how you behave behind the wheel, moment to moment, then sells the result.

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About 90% of new cars on the road collect information on how the person behind the wheel drives, according to Telemetry, an automotive advisory firm. Not all of it reaches insurers, and some drivers signed up on purpose for programs that promise a discount. But a good share of this happened to people who had no idea it was happening at all.

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Full article https://www.freshfromcache.com/your-car-grades-your-driving/

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u/FreshFromCache — 2 days ago
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If I have my own Apple ID but using my dad’s WiFi along with my brother, what, if any, kind of information can they see about my browser history?

I need to know if my brother if using the WiFi network as well, can he see anything I’m doing or will he know what I’m doing?

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u/U-NSPIRE-ME — 1 day ago
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AI age verification with KYC data

I have thought for a while that.. Why can’t these AI age verifications be done either locally, or by sending an E2E signal to the vendor, maybe sounding like ”Is this user over the age of X?” And the vendor doesn’t get your facial data etc because it is E2E and they would just retain a simple signal (is this user over age X?” and delete that after some time.

Ofcourse the best scenario is that we shouldn’t have to worry about things like this, but this is what we can closest to get in the world of AI age verification done by KYC data, that is vulnerable.

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u/Loose_Cow_9808 — 1 day ago
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Is this actually real? Gemini's privacy policy seems insane?

https://preview.redd.it/2v2ds0qy17bh1.png?width=1304&format=png&auto=webp&s=bd23fdbd219b46d385f7841e3c6678ea77e76f95

https://preview.redd.it/gzpv2kqy17bh1.png?width=1248&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c38277f92e9071d34579009655cb94b2e04c510

Gemini Pro paid version.

I was looking at the Gemini Apps Activity settings, and I need someone to tell me if I'm understanding this right, because it looks like a complete trap.

From what I can see:

  1. If you leave the activity setting ON so you can keep your chat history, Google allows human reviewers to read your personal chats to train their models.

  2. If you turn the setting OFF because you don't want reviewers reading your data, it completely disables your history and wipes everything after 72 hours.

  3. The worst part: If you had it on, and a human reviewer already looked at one of your chats, Google stores that text for up to 3 years, even if you go back and manually delete the chat yourself.

Am I misreading this, or are they seriously holding your chat history hostage in exchange for human review? Does this apply to the paid tiers too?

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u/Edmond-Cristo — 2 days ago
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I made CoverTrace — an iOS app that covers the sensitive parts of your ID before you send it, 100% on-device

Every time a landlord, Airbnb host, rental counter, or gig app asks for "a photo of your license," you hand over your address, DOB, ID number, and full face — all sitting in someone's inbox or camera roll forever, when they usually only needed one or two of those.

So I built CoverTrace (iOS). You photograph or import an ID/document, cover the fields the recipient doesn't actually need (box, blur, or pixelate), and export a clean, flattened JPEG or PDF with the original photo metadata stripped out. The tagline I kept coming back to: send only what they need.

The part I'm proudest of: it's 100% on-device. No account, no servers, no analytics, no third-party SDKs — your documents and photos literally never leave your phone. The only network call in the whole app is Apple's billing. (App Store privacy label is Purchases + Identifiers, nothing else.)

What it does:

  • Auto-detects sensitive fields (name, DOB, ID/SSN/card numbers, address, the photo) with Apple's on-device Vision, so covering is a couple of taps
  • Recipient "templates" — roughly what a rental host vs. a payment app tends to ask for — so you don't over- or under-cover
  • Scans your camera roll (on-device) for old ID/card photos you forgot were sitting there
  • Optional encrypted, Face ID–locked vault for documents you keep
  • Optional: an invisible mark you can add so your own private, on-device log can tell you which copy surfaced if one ever leaks — nothing phones home

Solo dev, and it was a road getting it through review (Apple had… opinions).

Would genuinely love feedback, especially on the field-detection accuracy and whether the templates match what places actually ask you for.

u/TRDVentures — 1 day ago

Ticketmaster Biometric Collection

I've had my account for over 20 years with the same phone number linked to it over 20 years. I have purchased hundreds of tickets for concerts, sports and comedy shows. After having them frequently mess with me and my account, I got "account restricted". Over half my life with this account and the customer service rep on the phone says I "have the choice" to either give my biometric data to Persona or create a different account.

I have left many platforms due to data privacy. I have avoided doing biometrics for everything but professional certification until now. All of this and I feel like I've lost the war. I know it's just a battle, but it's the first time I'm going to be forced to go against my beliefs and knowledge of just how unsafe these verification systems are. I feel defeated.

Edit: I was going to give in and do it last night, but when I logged in, the prompt wasn't given. I called and customer service could only offer "try again later time to time". So they give you a deadline, but if you don't complete it ASAP, it's possible it won't appear again. Customer service can't retrigger it. They asked if I had any email with instructions. Nope.

To confirm, I logged out, cleared my cache, then logged in again and I didn't get prompted. I have 4 concerts in the coming week and now have to worry about randomly receiving this prompt as I attempt to enter an event. You just can't make this nonsense up!

u/leppardfaniowa — 2 days ago