I still love a lot of this characters, but to think we could've had a lot more plot lines in a lot of characters is truly sad.

And that half of this characters are written so badly because of a tantrum? Like what?!

I hate what they’re doing with Gabby this season especially due to the fact that it’s literally exactly what she did in DCAS. It’s clear that the writers like her, they want her to stick around, however they have no idea what to do with her. She has no interesting connections or character arcs she’s just there. And they give her moments in an attempt to get us to sympathize with her but it’s not even clear what her struggle IS. Therefore, when she puts on the trademark Disventure camp sad expression it’s hard to emphasize with her due to the fact that we know nothing about her own personal struggles beyond the fact that she’s been calling “annoying” her entire life. But it’s never explored like how every other character gets explored. Everything detail we get about Gabby is just thrown at us with little to no explanation or overall relevance to anything happening around her.

I just feel like this stems from the fact that DC writers have no clue what they want Gabby to BE. Is she “comedic” relief? Is she a character that we’re supposed to take seriously? Is she a support character for other more important characters? Or is she herself supposed to be considered a main character? What I feel COULD have worked for her this season is if they delved into her being a character that masks her pain with humor. But for some reason they gave that plot line to TOM? He’s never displayed that trait like…ever but is placed as a mirror to Natalia when really it should’ve been GABBY who should’ve been Natalia’s foil. Gabby should’ve been the one to form a friendly rivalry with Natalia. It would’ve made her far more interesting now than what we ended up getting with her because it’s in line with her actual pre-existing character and would’ve opened up for FAR more depth and nuance. Especially since the Tom vs Natalia rivalry that took up so much screen time ended on such a whimper that not even the surrounding contestant gave a fuck about what was happening.

You might be thinking, “well then what’s tom going to do?!” I’d force HIM into Gabby’s role. He’s much more suited to playing peace keeper than she is and we don’t NEED more of Tom. He’s already a three-dimensional fleshed out character whether you like him or not. Putting him in a more passive role only serves to not have people get more sour on him than they already are. Having Tom hog so much screen time having doing the same in DCAS and having his own two season show was NOT a good move. Having Gabby actually stand on her own two feet against Natalia is vastly more interesting to me.

But instead of getting a compelling storyline about facing her past trauma and helping someone with the same coping mechanisms as her she’s being forced into a passive role that she’s NEVER been in before. Even at her worst Gabby has always at least been an active player making her own choices. But in fvf she’s just stuck in the middle of some lackluster friendship between Tom and Natalia. She’s not allowed to have any interesting and complex thoughts on anything happening around her. All she says is “let’s be friends guys!” And that’s the extent of her role in that plot. She just sits around and meanders while Tom and Natalia figure out their shit.

And even now she’s claiming that she’s “playing her own game” but she’s just doing whatever anyone TELLS her to do. Yet another example of this season forcing Gabby to be a passive character when she’s not BUILT for that role. Gabby is and has always been the chaotic neutral Character. She’s always been an active player in the game. In DC1 it was HER who decided to use her idol to save Ellie, SHE had a rivalry with Dan (whether you liked it or not). In DCAS SHE was the one who flipped to the villains alliance, it was GABBY who made the move to eliminate Tess, it was HER who decided she was going to help Grett no matter what. And yet her depiction in FvF shows her as a passive crybaby who does nothing but what people TELL her to do. That’s why I hate this new “Gabby Independence” arc because that’s not what it is. She’s had this same arc in DCAS and it was surprisingly executed far better than whatever is going on in this season.

It’s shocking how far she’s made it because she’s done nothing to deserve making it as far as she has. She’s made no game moves, have no interesting connections, no character arc besides stop being judgy ig???, and yet she’s still here. Just AROUND. And this isn’t meant to hate on Gabby or anyone who likes her this is just how I personally feel towards her this season.

TLDR; Gabby is being forced into a passive role when she’s never been in that role before and being passive contradicts her entire pre-existing character.

If you're unaware about the current situation, check Specalopescanon's thread about Jorge Chisi on X.

Many Aiden fans were excited about the fact Aiden was in the FvF season, the implications he'd be getting a villain arc and the possible concepts they've made. All of that anticipation for what? He got eliminated early (saved by a sudden game twist), had an overall horrible arc during his time with the fans and couldn't get his act up, continuously believing Alec's lie, had a mediocre elimination after NINA who came out of nowhere gave a bad score just because.

Even the people who dislike Aiden can recognize that the elimination was dogshit, and it was all on purpose. Just because Jorge thought the VA is egotistical, he completely threw his character out of the window all over his own feelings of Aiden. It is honestly disheartening that this is the people in the writing team, deciding how a character goes and letting their emotions about someone's VA or the character themselves get to them and completely affect their reputation.

I've talked about a handful of times that Aiden didn't seem like himself, he isn't all sunshine and kindness, sure. But he began acting like Riya 2.0 with how snobbish he came off, his moves were questionable and honestly i didn't see him pairing with Ara and Finn of all people. He doesn't feel like the same character, but people have said he's basically just the same.

This controversy had solidified my belief that he was mischaracterizing him to not only fuel the unserious villain plot he had, but also make the Aiden hate train grow. And it had grown a lot since, though it'd come to a halt eventually. It feels like a non-stop hate train that just feels nauseating after each ride, i tried playing it off with the Aiden slander and all but i genuinely felt that he wasn't acting like himself. That he didn't feel the same, and this had made me believe he just changed him to be more "whiny and egotistical" because he knows how easy it is to get people to dislike Aiden.

I'm probably looking too deep into this, but i just feel so much intense emotion about how things could've been with my favorite character. Even if he was am early boot, even if he ended up hated anyway. They still could've done something meaningful. He used his own personal likes and dislikes to affect how this season would go, we lost the possibility of a phenomenal beginning for FvF. And it hurts me to see after i really look back into it, but overall. Don't forget to show support to those who were affected by this controversy, as they're the ones most affected by this shitshow.

This shouldn't be put under the rug, real people were affected. This isn't just some nothing burger (targeted) nor is this about just the characters, using your position to write a show according your liking is disgusting, making people do things they're clearly not comfortable with is revolting. He spent tons of money for a chance to get Tristan in just for all of it to go to waste just because Jorge happened to dislike the VA wants to improve Tristan's character, it's an absolute let down and most importantly misleading.

Please show support for Specalopescanon on X.

I’m upset to find out about this.

>!Just think here. We know the gender of the winners alternates by season, we had a female winner seasons one and three, and a male winner seasons two and four. We can assume a female winner will occur again this season, so that leaves options as Fiore, Gabby, Natalia, Lake, and Oliwia. It would be pretty useless to bring back a new cast (or at least twelve new contestants) to not have one get as far as winning the season. After Nura got eliminated last episode, Oliwia is the only female fan left. Just think about it and argue with it in the comments…!<

https://archiveofourown.org/works/74175081/chapters/250542181

1. This is a mixture of canon and my own personal headcanons for the characters outside of the show.

2. I did not include showmances or else we'd be here all day. In order to be counted the relationship had to last outside of the competition, even if it ended in a breakup hence Connoriya and Huntally being counted while Mathlete, Nurara, Aleriya, and Dispencer were not.

3. I did not include Dunara yet because they aren't official as of now.

I wish she returned in FvF but now after this season she will probably never compete again.
Maybe we will see her in a comic with Anastasia one day.

bye queens 😘 (OH MY GODNESS MANU LOOKS SO CHOPPED AND UNCOOL IT MAKES ME WANNA CRY *cry like an artist*)

You read the title :

-Oliwia has interacted with 2 favorites : benji because he wanted to and gabby cause she's insulted her for her profession

In her Introduction she says she has the show on all the time while she works, guess she's unemployed? Or has no desire to meet the favorited whi have merged? I guess we could sau atp in the story she's learnt to reject herself

-Sam : he's only watched season 1 yet is the most intrigued by Spencer (relatable). Guess he has no opinion of fiore tom and gabby? (Kinda relatable i guess?)

-Nura : once again, been approached by benji. She has rejected lake's advances and then accepted her help to become a writer, which cool, but how the f is she a fan of anyone in here

-Ren: ill give it to him, he showed he was a natalia stan in ep1 and he knows fiore is a demon child so i guess that's that

-Ara, she's bullied gabby and insulted nat

The others either have not merged (and have not cared about aiden btw) or are bruno who is an actual fan as a definition

thoughts on the fans not fanning? would GLAADLY have a talk in comments

Ps: honorable mention to finn for being an actual fan with a crush, aubrey for being an alec hater and evie for not knowing the show

Watch them argue and fight like children (mostly Aiden)

Firstly, I'd like to wish everyone a happy October 1st!!!

Fall is in the air, pumpkin pie season has officially started, and TESS MORGAN has once again blessed us with another greeting!!! 🥰😘

Tess warms my heart and takes away my pain whenever I see her! 🥺♥️ Speaking of warm, I'm happy that Tess can stay warm by that fire; there's no reason for a beautiful angel like her to ever feel like she has to be uncomfortable in cold weather.

My heart craves Tess; I think about her and miss her every single day!!! 🥺😘😘😘

"Even if the whole world turns itself against me, I'm gonna love her." ♥️

Keep smiling, Tess! I'll never quit loving you, and I want to make sure that you never forget to take a moment to remember that YOU are loved! 😘😘😘

At the moment, I do have a strong feeling that the F3 will be Sam, Oliwia and Lake based on the current narrative trajectory of this F8 so I thought it would be fun to see who would support who in this hypothetical scenario.

Lake

As expected, Lake would take the bulk of support amongst the eliminated contestants here.

• Manu (22nd) : Manu never interacted with Lake personally but even her positive vibes and Bruno's strong affiliation with her, I see no reason why he'd refuse to support someone as good hearted as her.
• Anastasia (19th) : She helped Lake process her complicated feelings about home and left her blessings to Lake by the end of her run. She without a shadow of a doubt would support Lake in the finale.
• Aiden (17th) : Aiden has been Lake's best friend since S2 and even went on trip with her post DCAS when everything was said and done. This isn't even difficult to decide, Aiden will 100% support Lake.
• Bruno (16th) : He idolized Lake from the start and slowly over the course of the run began to view her as a genuine friend who always had his best interests in mind and considered him her favorite player by the time he was gone. Bruno definitely is voting for her
• Dunia (15th): I feel with how Sam & Oliwia screwed her over paired with Lake's noble heart and ties to Anastasia, Dunia will support Lake out of the options left
• Ally (14th) : Ally was the hardest to pin down cuz I initially thought she'd go for someone who played a strong game like Sam or support Oliwia due to Benji's friendship with her. But I decided to go for Lake as Ally seemingly has a lot of respect for her grind.
• Tom (11th) : Tom should be self explanatory given the cyan alliance, their swim sessions together and them working side by side in the balloon merge challenge almost flawlessly. As someone who loves to judge others by their character, Tom would see Lake as the most appropriate winner.

Sam

Sam given his reserved nature would generally have the least amount of support and given his schemes, his reputation wouldn't be the most popular. However he would still have a decent following.

• Spencer (??): Spencer is Sam's closest confidant in the game who respects his cunning all the while harboring romantic interest in him as the merge continues. While Spencer would initially support Lake, his evolving connection with Sam would lead him to support him insteadm
• Alec (21st): In his triple greeting with Ernesto and Manu, Alec mentions that Sam is probably his favorite contestant left - pointing out his investment in game makes him the most tolerable. Alec isn't really big on Lake and he finds Oliwia strange.
• Finn (20th) : Finn doesn't really have a strong genuine bond with any of the three. He hates Oliwia for being bothersome and Lake's friendship energy would sicken him. He doesn't have a tight bond with Sam however because of them being in an alliance for a solid amount of time and Sam never getting on Finn's bad side, Finn would chose Sam as the most tolerable one out of the "poor options" in his eyes.
• Ara (13th): you'd be wondering why is Ara supporting Sam here despite him eliminating her in the merge. Ara herself seemed to respect Sam's level headed nature for the game across the premerge and quite frankly I just don't see her supporting the other two. She often berated Oliwia for sabotaging the team's success and laughed when Finn called her a "B**ch" in front of everyone.
• Fiore (??) : another controversial choice considering that Fiore doesn't seem to like Sam's attitude however much like Ara, it's primarily the options left that pushes her to his direction. I suspect Oliwia will gun down Fiore, leading her to despise the animal lover by the end and Lake has consistently targeted her across the premerge. Sam at least cooperated with her choices and currently she sees him in a neutral position.

Oliwia

She ended up having a solid enough support despite originally starting off as an Outcast, so let's go through each of them.

• Aubrey (24th): Aubrey quickly connected with Oliwia at the start of the game and seemed to be affected by the notion of Oliwia moving on without her when Finn tried to manipulate her in the comeback challenge. Plus she'd want someone to get back at Sam given her hatred of Scorpios.
• Ernesto (23th): Under normal circumstances, he wouldn't support Oliwia given his frustrations with her in game. However thanks to his revelation due to Ren, I'd imagine he'd sympathize more with Oliwia's predicament and support her for Ren's sake.
• Evie (17th) : Evie in the game qas relatively chill with Oliwia's profession and didn't bat on eye against it. So I could see her supporting Oliwia on that basis alone.
• Ren (10th): Despite their rocky beginnings by the end of his run, Ren genuinely wants good things for Oliwia and builds something new after they come to terms with what happened. Ren doesn't like Sam for obvious reasons and Lake while tempting doesn't really match his empathy for Oliwia's plight.
• Nura (9th) : Initially I had Nura with Lake especially with how Lake was the key to Nura pursuing her career as a playwright but Nura's friendship with Oliwia is too narratively impactful for me to side step. After all Nura was the one who helped Oliwia out when she was spiralling, accepted her weird quirks and at the end, tells Oliwia that herself is more than enough rather than what she gives others. Nura just blatantly dislikes Sam so obviously she ain't supporting him.
• Benji (?): Despite being recent to the friend group, Benji understood Oliwia's trouble mindset and tried to guide her through tough times. Benji in Episode 19 even thanks both Oliwia and Nura for allowing him to take the lead despite barely knowing him which made the otaku really happy.
• Gabby (?): the narrative is already setting up their potential friendship at the moment. Gabby not necessarily understanding Oliwia's mindset but recognizing the love she has for the things she enjoys with no one to really share it with much like her in the past. Gabby would initially side with Lake at first but by the end of her run, she's definitely supporting Oliwia.
• Natalia (?) : She has no real connection with Oliwia but I put her here primarily because of Ren and Gabby who understand Oliwia on an emotional level. Natalia clearly finds Sam frustrating and her beef with Lake will likely remain over the course of the game.

This is just my speculation at the end of the day, share your thoughts