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Image 1 — 2022 Ather 450X on Invoice & RC, but App shows 450 Plus — Bought used for ₹70k
Image 2 — 2022 Ather 450X on Invoice & RC, but App shows 450 Plus — Bought used for ₹70k
Image 3 — 2022 Ather 450X on Invoice & RC, but App shows 450 Plus — Bought used for ₹70k
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2022 Ather 450X on Invoice & RC, but App shows 450 Plus — Bought used for ₹70k

Hi everyone,

I recently purchased a 2022 Ather second-hand for ₹70,000. The previous owner told me it was an Ather 450X.

I checked the documents and found:

Invoice: Ather 450X

RC: Ather 450X

But in the Ather app/display configuration, it is showing Ather 450 Plus

Model year: 2022

Purchased from Bhiwandi

Currently being used in Nashik

Usage is very simple — mostly village/local commuting, nothing aggressive.

This has confused me because both the original invoice and RC clearly mention 450X, but the Ather app is showing 450 Plus.

Could this be a software/account/configuration issue? Or is it possible that the scooter was originally a 450 Plus and something was changed later?

What is the best way to confirm the actual factory variant? Should I contact Ather with the VIN/chassis number and ask them to verify the original model?

If anyone owns a 2022 Ather 450X or has faced the same issue where the app shows 450 Plus, please share your experience.

Also, I bought it for ₹70,000, so I would really appreciate advice on whether I should be concerned or if this is just a documentation/software issue.

Thanks in advance!

u/Carlosyed — 1 day ago
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Hi guys, I am conducting a survey on EV Charging Habits.

If anyone owns an EV please do participate in the survey. It only takes less than 3 minutes. Do Participate & Share

https://forms.gle/TaujctGRckUb5Km1A

Context: University Project/Case Study

u/Aamai123 — 1 day ago
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Syros EV test drive

Test drove syros ev htx+ today. The riding comfort and suspension was good. The rear seats were really comfortable. This car is far better than windsor EV i should say.

However, I was planning to take the htk variant and fit the rear view mirror dashcam to use as a reverse camera. But the rear bench seat in the base variant is such a let down. Lack of headrest in the rear seats is kinda a deal breaker for me. I asked them whether I can modify it into an adjustable headrest. They said that they don't do that. Does anyone here have any idea about this ? Thanks in advance..

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u/Beautiful-Ant3486 — 2 days ago
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Can I buy Sierra EV on company lease plan?

The company will be registered as first owner and after completing the lease I will be the 2nd owner. So the battery warranty will be reduced to 10 years/2L km. For 3 year lease policy I will be saving around 5-6 lakhs. Still worth taking EV on company lease policy?

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u/Possible-Sail-6488 — 2 days ago

3XO EV A7XL vs Syros EV HTX 42kw

I booked both cars, trying to decide. Price difference is 75000, syros ev being more expensive. Mostly city driving taking kids to school and occasional highway around 350km every other month. Looking for easy to drive, safe and quality car. Please suggest. Thanks in advance.

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u/Spiritual-Leave-5321 — 2 days ago
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Back & Forth with Acko on Insurance Terms for Mahindra XEV 9S

I sent an email to Acko asking clarifying questions about my upcoming new car insurance purchase. I am buying Mahindra XEV 9S P2A and was considering either Acko, United India and HDFC Ergo as an insurer. I won't be taking insurance from the dealer unless they can match it exactly on cost and inclusions.

I find Acko's response to be quite conservative and not confidence inspiring. Anyone who has bought Acko insurance before, can you pls comment on their experience?

Questions to Acko

Dear Acko Team, my car is about to be delivered and I'd like to clarify the below purchasing policy and choosing Acko.

Before I finalize the motor insurance policy for my new Mahindra XEV 9S 79KW EV, please provide a clear, written Yes/No response along with official policy clause confirmations for each of the following conditions:

1. Cashless Authorization & Workshop Primacy

  • Direct Cashless Tie-Up: Do you have an active Cashless MoU with all Mahindra authorized service stations and body workshops across India? Will 100% of claims be processed cashlessly at this OEM-authorized workshop without requiring me to pay upfront or use non-OEM third-party body shops?
  • OEM Technical Primacy on Total Loss: If the OEM-authorized workshop issues a technical safety report certifying that the high-voltage battery pack structure or chassis frame is unsafe to repair and requires replacement exceeding 75% of IDV, will your surveyor honor the OEM's technical verdict for Total Loss, without forcing partial repairs? Lately, ICICI Lombard and Tata. AIG insurers have been in the limelight for denying total loss acceptance despite Mahindra workshop stating that it is indeed total loss and the insurance company instead forcing repairs.
  • Zero Battery Salvage Deduction: In a Total Loss, Constructive Total Loss, or full battery pack replacement, will you settle 100% of the claim without deducting any arbitrary "battery salvage value" from my payout?
  • Surveyor SLA: Will the surveyor honor the repair estimate provided by the Mahindra authorized workshop and what is your SLA on the surveyor visit and approving claims?
  • Parking Charges while Awaiting Repair: Does the insurance cover the daily parking charges at the Mahindra authorized workshop while the workshop is waiting for your surveyor to approve the claim?

2. High-Voltage Battery & Powertrain Protection

  • Underbody Scrapes: Is underbody battery pack damage (from road debris, loose rocks, or high speedbreakers) covered 100% under Zero Depreciation without requiring an external body panel collision?
  • Negligence Clause Exclusions: Does the policy explicitly exclude any subjective "driver negligence" or "consequential damage" clauses regarding underbody scrapes or thermal events?
  • Fast-Charging Power Surges: Is electrical damage to the battery, inverter, or onboard charger caused by power surges at 3rd-party public fast-charging stations fully covered?
  • Zero Depreciation on HV Components: Does Zero Depreciation cover 100% of replacement costs for the high-voltage battery pack, motor, drive units, inverter, and thermal management systems without applying annual battery depreciation grids?

3. Environmental, Water & Rodent Protection

  • Full-Vehicle Rodent Damage: Is rodent/rat bite damage covered for the entire vehicle (including all wiring harnesses, ADAS sensor lines, cabin electronics, and battery cables), including all high-voltage components?
  • Water Ingress & Hydrostatic Lock: Are the battery pack, electric motor, and electronic control units and any and every other part of the car fully covered against water ingress and short circuits when driven through or parked in standing/flooded water?

4. Return to Invoice (RTI) & Financial Terms

  • Uncapped RTI Payout: In the event of a Total Loss, Constructive Total Loss, or Theft, will the Return to Invoice (RTI) add-on pay 100% of the original purchase invoice value (Ex-Showroom Price + Road Tax + Registration Fees), without capping at "current market value"?

5. EV-Specific Add-ons, Tyres & RSA

  • 100% Flatbed Towing Guarantee: Does your Roadside Assistance (RSA) guarantee 100% flatbed towing for all EV breakdowns and accidents (strictly prohibiting two-wheel dragging that damages electric motors)?
  • Off-Premise Wallbox & Portable Charger: Is the wallbox and portable charger fully covered against theft, external fire, or electrical surges or physical damage of any other sort?
  • Diagnostic & Recalibration Fees: Does the policy cover mandatory post-accident diagnostic scanning fees, BMS software reflashing, and ADAS sensor recalibration costs?
  • EV Consumables: Does Consumables Cover explicitly include EV battery coolants, dielectric fluids, and HVAC refrigerants?
  • Standalone Tyre & Rim Protection: Does tyre coverage pay for standalone sidewall tears or pothole damage without requiring an accompanying car body collision? Are alloy rims covered at 100% for accidental damage?
  • Smart Key Cover: Does key replacement cover the full cost of replacing smart key fobs and electronic re-coding fees?

Please respond with line-by-line confirmations so I can proceed with issuing the policy.

Acko's Answers

Greetings from ACKO General Insurance.

Thank you for sharing your detailed queries regarding the insurance coverage for your Mahindra XEV 9S 79 kWh EV. We understand the importance of having clarity on the coverage before proceeding with the policy purchase.

With reference to your email, please find the clarification below:

  1. Cashless Authorization & Workshop Primacy

Cashless Tie-Up: ACKO provides cashless claim facilities through its eligible network garages across India. However, we cannot confirm that every Mahindra-authorised service centre/body workshop across India has an active cashless arrangement with ACKO. Cashless facility is subject to the particular workshop being part of the ACKO network at the time of the claim.

OEM Technical Assessment / Total Loss: The technical assessment provided by a Mahindra-authorised workshop will be considered during claim assessment. However, the final decision regarding claim admissibility, repairability and Total Loss/Constructive Total Loss will be taken by ACKO based on the surveyor's assessment, policy terms and applicable regulations.

Battery Salvage: In case of Total Loss, Constructive Total Loss or replacement of the battery, the claim will be settled as per the applicable policy terms, IDV, deductibles and salvage provisions. No arbitrary battery deduction is applied outside the applicable claim process.

Surveyor Visit / Approval: Surveyor inspection and claim approval timelines depend on the nature and complexity of the claim, availability of the vehicle, workshop estimate and required documents. A fixed approval timeline cannot be guaranteed for every claim.

Parking Charges: Parking charges levied by a workshop while the vehicle is awaiting survey or repair approval are not automatically covered unless specifically provided under the applicable policy/add-on terms.

  1. High-Voltage Battery & Powertrain Protection

Underbody Damage: Accidental damage to the EV battery or other insured components caused by an external impact, such as road debris, rocks or a speed breaker, can be considered under Own Damage coverage even where there is no significant damage to an external body panel, subject to establishing an admissible accidental event.

Negligence / Consequential Damage: Claim admissibility depends on the circumstances and cause of the damage. For EV short-circuit or electrical damage, ACKO conducts a detailed survey/audit to determine the root cause before determining claim admissibility.

Charging Power Surge: Damage caused solely by an external power surge, voltage fluctuation or charging-related electrical fault is subject to assessment of the actual cause and applicable policy terms. It is not automatically covered merely because the damage occurred while charging.

Zero Depreciation on EV Components: The EV traction battery and motor are covered under the base Own Damage policy itself for eligible insured events; a separate Battery Protection or Motor Protection add-on is not required. Where Zero Depreciation is selected, applicable depreciation on eligible covered parts is waived as per the selected cover and its terms.

  1. Environmental, Water & Rodent Protection

Rat Bite: Rat-bite/rodent damage is covered where the applicable Rat Bite Cover is selected/included in the policy, subject to its terms and conditions. Eligible wiring and components damaged due to rat bites can be considered under the cover.

Water Ingress / Flooding: Damage caused by an insured flood, inundation or water-ingress event can be considered under Own Damage coverage. Where water exposure subsequently causes electrical or short-circuit damage, the claim will be assessed based on the circumstances and root cause.

  1. Return to Invoice (RTI)

Where Return to Invoice/Invoice Cover is selected, the benefit is applicable in eligible Total Loss, Constructive Total Loss or theft situations as per the applicable RTI terms. The settlement will be subject to the conditions and definition of invoice value specified under the applicable cover and is not an unrestricted payment beyond those terms.

  1. EV-Specific Add-ons, Tyres & RSA

RSA / EV Towing: Roadside Assistance provides towing assistance subject to the applicable RSA terms. For an EV, an appropriate towing method will be arranged based on the vehicle's condition and requirement. However, we cannot provide a blanket guarantee of flatbed towing for every breakdown or accident.

Wallbox / Portable Charger: A company-provided/factory-supplied charger does not require a separate Electrical Accessories add-on merely because it is manufacturer-provided. Coverage remains subject to the applicable policy terms and whether the particular equipment falls within the insured scope.

Diagnostic / Recalibration: Necessary repair-related costs will be considered where they form part of an admissible insured repair, subject to the applicable policy terms. Specific diagnostic, software or ADAS recalibration charges are not automatically covered independently in every circumstance.

EV Consumables: Consumables Cover applies to eligible consumable items required during an admissible repair, subject to the applicable Consumables Cover terms. Specific EV fluids or refrigerants will be considered where they fall within the eligible consumables covered under the applicable terms.

Tyre & Rim Protection: ACKO does not provide a separate Tyre Protect add-on. Tyres are subject to the applicable policy coverage and terms, with tyre damage generally subject to the applicable percentage/conditions. Standalone tyre damage is not automatically payable as an unrestricted 100% replacement claim.

Smart Key: Key Protection, where selected, covers eligible repair/replacement of damaged or stolen keys subject to the applicable Key Protection limit and terms. The applicable limit will depend on the Extra Car Protect variant selected.

We would also like to reiterate that EV-related components such as the traction battery and motor are covered under the base Own Damage policy itself for eligible insured events. A separate Battery Protect or Motor Protect add-on is not required for this coverage.

For EV short-circuit/electrical damage, ACKO conducts a detailed survey/audit to determine the root cause. The surveyor will use their inspection, photographs and documents provided to assess the extent and cause of the damage. Please ensure that someone with the vehicle keys is available during the survey appointment and wait for ACKO's confirmation before starting any repairs.

We recommend reviewing the final quotation carefully to ensure that all required add-ons, including Zero Depreciation, RTI, Consumables, RSA, Key Protection and Extra Car Protect, are selected as required before making the payment.

Should you require any further assistance, please feel free to reply to this email or contact us at 1800-266-2256. We will be happy to assist you further.

Regards,
Team ACKO

My Follow Up Questions to Acko

Thanks for a detailed response. 

You lost me at the first point, where you saying you don't have India wide tie up with Mahindra Authorized Service Stations and Body Workshop - why would any one in their sane mind take their EV car to a non-Mahindra workshop when no one is trained or competent enough to deal with EVs?

On the surveyor's word being last, the recent infamous incidents where ICICI Lombard forced the Mahindra workshop to repair the car which was declared a total loss by Mahindra (who just so you know are the most knowledgeable and competent people when its comes to their cars, and NOT your surveyor who is trying to save Acko money) was such a sham and ensured that nobody in their right mind would ever insure their EV from ICICI Lombard again! I hope you are not on the same route with an incompetent surveyor's word being last on a complex relatively new product in the market and you surveyor certainly doesn't possess an electrical or a chemical engineering degree to assess the damage.

How much does your parking add-on cover costs when the car is at the dealership awaiting survey or repairs? Otherwise, you don't seem to have your skin in the game and the customer could incur hefty charges when the surveyor takes his own sweet time to pay a visit.

Rat Bite: what is an eligible wiring for rat bite cover? I see you are trying a play on words. Any wire in the car which belongs to the car as it was shipped from the manufacturer should qualify for rat bite cover? What's your definition of eligible and ineligible wires? Give me an example of ineligible wire in an EV car.

RSA: My EV is going to be a rear wheel drive car and without a flatbed, it cannot be towed. How do you plan to tow a RWD EV car without a flatbed without damaging the car?

In addition to answering the above questions in detail, please also share a final quotation with me for the car. It is due to reach the stockyard by the end of this week.

Ex Showroom price is INR 25,94,999.

Acko's Response to Follow Up Questions

Dear Customer,

Greetings from ACKO General Insurance.

Thank you for sharing your concerns.

With reference to your email, we would like to clarify that cashless repair facilities are available PAN India at GST-registered garages within ACKO's network, including Mahindra-authorised workshops wherever they are part of the eligible network. Therefore, you may avail cashless claim services at an eligible Mahindra-authorised garage, subject to network availability and applicable claim terms.

Additionally, flatbed towing is available under the applicable Roadside Assistance (RSA) service. This is particularly relevant for EVs, including rear-wheel-drive EVs where flatbed towing is required to safely transport the vehicle without causing damage to the drivetrain.

Accordingly, in case your RWD EV requires towing, the applicable RSA service can arrange flatbed towing, subject to the terms, availability and service conditions of the selected RSA/Extra Car Protect plan.

We hope this addresses your concerns regarding Mahindra-authorised workshops, cashless repairs and safe towing of your EV.

Regarding the quotation, the final premium and applicable coverage will be generated based on the exact vehicle make, model, variant and registration/vehicle details once the vehicle information is available in our system. The ex-showroom price of ₹25,94,999 may be considered while generating the quotation, subject to the applicable IDV and pricing criteria.

Should you require any further assistance, please feel free to reply to this email or contact us at 1800-266-2256. We will be happy to assist you further.

Regards,
Team ACKO

Sorry, I am a bit new to this and want to save money while avoid getting scammed by an insurance provider when I actually need to claim something. Thanks!

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u/zzzehar — 2 days ago
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Comment down the EV 2 wheelers you guys own.

I am thinking of buying my 2nd EV after owning ampere magnus.
Need some guidance about service and ownership from you guys.

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u/Peter_Park_Kar — 2 days ago

Creta EV vs eVitara

Hello Everyone,

I am planning to move to ev from Skoda Slavia.

Your guidance and insights are greatly appreciated.

I have shortlited eVitara 61kwh and creta ev executive LR. Confused between choosing the right one.

My Preferences

  1. Budget is 20L

  2. My drives are1700-1800 a month.

  3. I travel with my wife and a 2yr toddler

  4. Safety is priority

  5. I drive 70% on highways and rest is city

  6. Silent cabin with low NVH is preffered.

  7. Hassle free ownership and reliable service.

Concerns

  1. How far the battery is protected considering 186mm GC comapred to 200mm GC on Creta EV.

  2. 8yrs of battery warrenty for both, while competition is offering 15yrs. Whil this be a factor to consider, what is the situation post 8yrs.

  3. Battery hanging down for Creta EV, heard syros & clavis have done a good protection for the batyery underhood. How far is it safe for rural areas?.

  4. How is the safety on Creta EV, the ICE one is 3*Rated.

  5. Intend to keep the car for 7yrs atleast. Will the ev vehichles last for that long. Also can ev be a primary car or should be considered as a secondary in this case.

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u/Noeldonald — 2 days ago

I think EV fleet economics is becoming more important than EV specs

Most EV discussions still focus on:

range
battery size
top speed
charging time
vehicle price

But for a commercial fleet, I think the more important metric is:

How many productive days does the vehicle give you per month?

A ₹60k vehicle that works 29 days a month could be more valuable than a ₹50k vehicle that spends 5 days in maintenance.

Then you have:

utilisation
rider productivity
battery availability
maintenance turnaround
financing cost
replacement vehicles
residual value

Curious whether fleet operators agree or whether I'm overestimating the importance of uptime.

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u/Ok-Percentage7139 — 2 days ago
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Booked punch ev to end but nw scared of it as people are saying tata hv lot of problems with new variants ? What should do as I am using it for regular days

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u/Short_Ad4842 — 3 days ago

Make me understand BaaS

Recently the new be6 got launched with the BaaS and normal equivalent variant having a difference of approximately 8 lakh rupees which would in turn be more difference if we calculate on road prices.

Now diving into economics,please bare with me.

3.75/ km for lump sum 8 lakh rupees difference coverts into 2,13,000 km approx

According to them ,60 km per day average converts into 1800 km per month or say 6,750 rupees fixed charge per month.

Drawing and assumption that the loan period is for 8 years ,minimum Outflow comes around to be 6.5 lakh rupees

Contrary to what being discussed here and from other brands baas t&c there are no down payments or residuary loan settlement value at the end of term period .

As in case of my, different loan provider have different t&c,like bajaj taking fixed amount per month irrespective of km,others averaging out over quarters and what not.

Even for being in loss(not factoring in interest),only after 2222 km per month , normal pack seems economically viable,although realistically factoring in no dp and interest the km range would dramitically increase for normal ev users which in my idea would have ideal use case of 1500-2500 km per month.

I remember running these numbers at the time of mg and Tata launches but nothing was so lucrative,and definitely upfront payment was beneficial rather than Baas.

Heck at this prices +-1/2 lakh max you can afford is altroz/venue at/sonet diesel.

Running cost with home charging and baas would be almost equivalent between these cars and be6,factoring in maintaince cost ev would be slightly cheaper in long term even with baas,and definitely there is huge gap between category and class of vehicle like altroz/venue/sonet and be6.

Definitely one should wait for final t&c's and who would offer what type of loan schemes,but still drawing inferences from Baas as available in the market,the following queries raised in my mind

Outputs invited and encouraged.

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u/Suspicious-Walk-243 — 2 days ago

What’s the best workaround for people without dedicated parking?

Living in a city where dedicated parking isn't guaranteed, this is probably one of the biggest things that makes me hesitate about getting a 4W EV. I already own a 2W EV and heavily rely on public chargers.

If you don't have a private parking spot, how are you actually managing charging?

Do people rely entirely on public chargers, charge at work, or have some other workaround?

Also curious about apartment dwellers - are RWAs/societies generally becoming more EV-friendly, or is getting permission and access to a charging point still a headache? The recent Haryana news that EV charging for parking has become a major problem made me ask this question!

Would love to hear what actually works in the real world, especially in Indian cities.

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u/Savings_Composer3158 — 3 days ago
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Booked Kia Syros EV HTK+ER - confused

As mentioned in the subject line, I booked the Kia Syros EV HTK plus ER. However, I’m confused about whether I need to upgrade to the HTX ER, which offers the rare seat, comfort of sliding and reclining. The HTX ER also comes with a panoramic sunroof, which I’m not particularly interested in. However, features like the day/night view mirror, rear wiper and rear armrest are appealing.

Can anyone help me out here?

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u/Emotional-Room-3930 — 3 days ago
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Creta Electric Executive(O)-51kWh

I am getting CRETA EV EXECUTIVE(O)-51 kWh variant in 21.25L on-road in my state. Is it a good price or any do i negotiate more.

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u/Good-Ad8575 — 3 days ago
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10,000+ EV chargers are now joining one network; could this finally fix India’s charging app mess?

I found this news interesting. Pulse Energy is adding over 10,000 electric vehicle chargers to Unified Bharat eCharge. The goal is to make it easier for people to find and pay for electric vehicle chargers.

Using different apps and wallets for electric vehicle charging has been a problem for a while. I think this new system could make it less stressful to take road trips in a vehicle.

I am curious to know if electric vehicle owners still have trouble with charging apps and networks or if things have already improved.

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u/Turbulent_Manner6738 — 4 days ago

Tiago ev or punch ev

I am confused between punch ev or tiago ev can you guys help me out. This car is for my wife. She will be driving nearly 35 km daily. Mostly city drive only. I was about to book tiago ev creative top end. But saw several posts regarding punch ev. I want the car to have hill hold assist and atleast reverse camera. Budget is around 11 lakhs.

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u/Queasy_Role7350 — 4 days ago
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Question regarding future of evs

Can evs last for 15+ years currently (any known case?) , or in future if parts are developed till then. I have a 17 year old activa which still starts and also clears pollution tests

.

Do you think if ev becomes the default choice, do you think India's grid can handle it? Whether they will penalise owners for using evs or taxing fast charging evs? Like how they are discouraging solar energy users because they won't upgrade the grid.

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u/Thala_Ramos — 5 days ago

Creta vs Be6

Hello Everyone,

I am planning to move to ev from Skoda Slavia.

Your guidance and insights are greatly appreciated.

I have shortlited be6 59kwh and creta ev executive LR. Confused between choosing the right one.

My Preferences

  1. Budget is 20L

  2. My drives are1700-1800 a month.

  3. I travel with my wife and a 2yr toddler

  4. Safety is priority

  5. I drive 70% on highways and rest is city

  6. Silent cabin with low NVH is preffered.

  7. Hassle free ownership and reliable service.

Concerns

  1. How far NMC battery can considered over LFP which is good for indian conditions is what I have heard till now.

  2. 8yrs of battery warrenty, while competition is offering 15yrs.

  3. Battery hanging down, heard syros & clavis have done a good protection for the batyery underhood. How far is it safe for rural areas?.

  4. How is the safety on Creta EV, the ICE one is 3*Rated.

  5. Intend to keep the car for 7yrs atleast. Will the ev vehichles last for that long. Also can ev be a primary car or should be considered as a secondary in this case.

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u/Noeldonald — 5 days ago
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EV below 15L on road price

Hi guys, we wish to buy an EV below 15L, we do not care so much about long drives but it should have sole range capacity to visit parts near Hyderabad sometimes, also kindly consider that my daily office commute is in the horrible Raidurg office stretch, so about 5-7 km of torture, hence about 15 km both ways, currently we use an Alto 800, looking to upgrade, so what would be the best EV to live with for a longer time span in your opinion with this hard limit, maybe 10K more max?

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u/Elite_Hephaestus — 5 days ago