
r/EffectiveAltruism

Why Good People Do Not Change the World
The difference between micro-morality and macro-morality is key here. Gandhi definitely bridged that.
Introducing EA Egypt
Hey everyone, we are launching a brand-new Effective Altruism community in Egypt
Please check out our post on the forum for more details!
Second Donation - Match3 For Charity
May (1) ~79 $ / 68 € to ME/CFS Research Foundation
Donation from IAP*
April IAP: 34 CHF
Doubling pot adds: 31 CHF
Total donated today: 62.85 CHF
3 CHF are kept to cover costs so the project can stay sustainable. 👨💻 (Tried to donate everything but my Brain 😵💫🧮)
Thank you for playing, sharing and supporting.💚
Everything helps. 🧩
*In-App Purchases
**Match3 For Charity is a Mobile game that donates most of its profits to charity
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Why effective altruists ought to consider donating to hasten the defeat of human aging
substack.comDemocratic presidential candidates should support cultivated-meat research
slaughterfreeamerica.substack.comBetter for Animals: The Evidence Behind Books, Documentaries, and Podcasts
animalcharityevaluators.orgShouldn’t we spend money on AGI safety, just in case?
My answer in this essay: yes, but less money than AGI safety advocates would like, and not on typical AGI safety projects.
This is probably the #1 most common response I hear when I argue against the beliefs of the AGI safety community. As I explain in this essay, I think this response conflates a general argument about existential risk with an argument for funding certain particular projects. It’s a subtle distinction, but an important one.
In January, I wrote a satirical post on the Effective Altruism Forum that was meant to draw attention to the flaw in the idea that a tiny probability of existential catastrophe justifies giving a lot of money to AGI safety organizations. This new essay is my attempt to seriously explain what the flaw in the logic is, and to describe what I think we should do instead.
The dark side of e/acc and techno-optimism, as a poem
zeptabot.substack.comBest way to donate clothes?
Title. I have bunch of shoes and shirts I dont need anymore.
Which non-government entry-level jobs make the most difference?
I have a BA in Environmental Studies with a minor in Biology, and have worked in a research lab for six months. Which non-government jobs that I could get would be of most benefit to the environment?
Summary – the Farm Bill has passed through the House of Representatives, and it will likely be brought to the Senate floor by the end of the month.
If it passes as is, it will wipe out all state-level laws enforcing animal welfare standards on interstate meat and dairy imports. (Eggs are mercifully exempt.) It will also pre-empt any future laws of this kind.
The linked post details actions to help prevent this.
Receiving funding/compute paid for a ML model
I'm an undergrad biology student who got really into AI architecture through one of my courses. I've spent the last few days developing an idea for a model (that has been a brain baby for about a month, but sadly - finals) and want to start training a prototype, but don't have the funds to cover compute costs.
Can anyone point me toward grants, programs, or people to reach out to for this kind of thing? Any help appreciated.
Rejected from EA Global
I was rejected from EA Global London. The rejection included notes about this not being 'a negative judgement of you or of your potential impact on the world', and they suggested that I apply for an EAGx conference (which would require me to fly to either Singapore, India or Australia), but it's hard to feel that this isn't just cope from an identical newsletter they send to the very, very small number of people they reject each year. Alongside the countless grad scheme rejections and the countless rejections from basically any good job that I've applied for over three years out of university, it is hard not to feel completely hopeless about my prospects and my potential to join any community that could help me do something.
I'll admit that I'm fairly new to Effective Altruism. I've read 'Doing Good Better', I've made extensive notes on the 80,000 hours career pages (they haven't helped that much with getting a good job), and I've been through the forum for a while. I've been desperately trying to break through to the next step in life for years without any progress whatsoever.
Is it worth applying for EAGx and flying elsewhere for it? What next steps would you recommend for me in EA? What can I actually do to get involved? Even volunteer positions seem tough to get. I went to a good university, and I performed well throughout, but I didn't do STEM, and, honestly, this community seems geared towards those from STEM backgrounds. I'm not saying that's why I've been rejected. What I mean to say is that it feels like I'm an extreme outlier here.
What can I do within this space to actually build towards something useful? Something that I can put on a CV? Something that would, eventually, make me worth letting in? Regardless of being an outlier.
The whims of rockefellers and carnegies should not be the sole mean why great things are done for greater society.
The most effective altruism is to eat the rich
Should I donate to hasten the defeat of human aging?
Is that an effective altruistic use of my resources?
$1/ton CO2 warming offset for a year. The math on stratospheric SO2 injection vs. everything else in the EA climate portfolio.
The longtermism debate running through this sub right now is partly about whether we're counting future lives correctly. Here's a concrete version of that question.
Current best estimates for cost-effective climate interventions:
- Clean cookstoves (Gold Standard): ~$5–15/ton CO2e reduced.
- High-quality carbon offsets (avoided deforestation, Blue Carbon): ~$10–50/ton.
- Direct air capture: ~$300–1,000/ton at current scale.
- Stratospheric SO2 injection via balloon: $1/ton CO2 warming offset for one year.
The mechanism is volcanic eruptions, Mt. Pinatubo temporarily cooled Earth by ~0.5°C by injecting ~20 million tons of SO2 into the stratosphere. You're replicating that effect at a fraction of the cost using weather balloons.
The $1/ton figure comes from the Tomas Pueyo deep-dive on the mechanism and cost structure: https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/so2-injection
The honest EA framing here isn't "SO2 injection instead of emissions reduction." It's: given a fixed budget and the goal of reducing near-term warming, what's the expected value per dollar? At 25x–100x lower cost than most alternatives, SO2 injection buys time on the temperature curve while renewables scale.
The objections I'd expect: termination shock (real, manageable with gradual phase-down), regional precipitation effects (real, modeled, geographically concentrated), ozone chemistry (sulfate aerosols alone don't cause ozone damage — that requires CFCs, which we've massively cut). Moral hazard, not real, alternative energy is getting too cheap to meter and will be more accessible than burning fossil fuels. Each of these is a legitimate engineering constraint, not a veto.
If you're allocating climate dollars and haven't stress-tested SO2 injection against your other bets, that seems like an oversight worth correcting. Would love pushback and counter-arguments.
Help me understand why EA forum hated my post on communication
I wrote the following post on EA forum recently and received -10 downvotes in the first 2 hours (including a few strong downvotes) but no one left any comment or used the "disagree" button. I took down the post for now. After re-reading it and the community guidelines several times, I'm still confused why it was downvoted so much. I'd appreciate any helpful feedback or speculations on why others hated it. Discourse on the actual content is welcomed as well.
Relationship EA: Why You Should Slide into DMs
Admittedly, the title is a bit of a clickbait, but now that I got your attention, why not stay for the discourse?
EA Global and several offshoot events are coming up in London in May. Of course, you’re excited to “connect with experts and peers to collaborate on projects and tackle global challenges” as per the official mission. If you’re reading this post, you don’t need me to convince you that community-building for EA causes is good. However, you may be dragging your feet on building other types of relationships during this conference and beyond, whether they are romantic, platonic, or even adversarial (debates can be incredibly useful for participants). I’m here to convince you that sliding into DMs is generally good for effective altruism.
I specified DMs because I think there are unique advantages to 1-1 interactions, which will be explained in each subsection corresponding to different types of connections. 1-1s don’t need to start as DMs, though I find DMs to be the most approachable because they’re lower-stakes and lower-effort than speaking in person.
Why talk to skeptics (and haters)
I’ve written before that EA has a branding problem and I fear the backlash against EA is stronger than ever, potentially due to the movement’s ties to AI labs and Silicon Valley, on top of the evergreen skepticism against longtermism and impartiality. Recently, I’ve heard several prominent media figures claiming Yudkowsky is actually “pro-AI” because he is “in bed with the Silicon Valley broligarchs.” Beyond AI, shrimp welfare is another common point-of-entry for EA haters. The shared thesis of the skeptics is that if one cares too much about non-humans, especially those in the far future, then one must be anti-human in the present day.
You may think this logical fallacy is so ridiculous that there is no point in engaging with the argument. This is one of the reasons EAs are wary of journalists, but hey, journalists can change their mind too. My anecdotal experience shows that Dylan (see previous link) is not an exception. In the past few months, I started DM’ing journalists and influencers when I saw them presenting false claims about EA and AI (safety). I was surprised that several of them replied back and even more surprised at the discussion outcome. I’m now in regular contact with one of them who not only added more nuance to their coverage on AI, but also started speaking on other issues EAs care about (e.g., resharing Lewis Bollard’s posts against the Farm Bill). Another person made a dedicated video pushing back on their own audience’s simplistic view on AI.
These people are by no means becoming EAs but what they say impacts how millions of people view the world. I believe raising public awareness and changing public opinions are important EA work that complements the technical progress most EAs focus on. EAs tend to shy away from the former which could severely bottleneck how much good we do. I think the key reason I was able to “influence the influencers” is that I reached out to them in private and in good faith (I shared more tips of talking to skeptics here). One of them actually told me I was the only person being nice amidst the sea of hate comments they received from the EA/AI safety/LessWrong communities. This may be an exaggeration but we can all aim to be better ambassadors for the movement.
Why talk to EA-adjacent people
These are folks who are not on this forum and may never take the 10% pledge, but they are sympathetic to the causes. They can provide funding, talent, and networks for selective EA projects despite not agreeing with everything EAs say or do. If EAs are like vegans, then these folks are like vegetarians (and let’s not make the mistake of some vegans in alienating vegetarians because vegetarians are not doing the most good).
1-1s with these folks help you find the specific common ground to build relationships from. I argue that befriending or dating them is one of the best ways to grow and incorporate more diversity into the movement. Drawing again from personal experience, my previously-meat-loving and probably-will-always-be-conservative-leaning partner (making them the 1% among the EA demographics) has turned vegetarian and donates to a variety of EA causes.
Why talk to other EAs
Besides movement-building, I think EAG conferences are probably one of the best ways for EAs to seek romance. If you’re a heterosexual woman, you enjoy a ~2.5x leverage in dating arbitrage because of the gender imbalance. Fear not if you’re on the other side as a heterosexual man — EA women are likely much less susceptible to the cringe culture and genuinely don’t care for looksmaxxing. This means you don’t need to mog in terms of looks/personality/status/money etc. to have a high success rate of striking up friendly conversations at EAG! In case you don't identify with the gender binary and/or have a non-hetero orientation, you're still in luck because several of these demographics are over-represented in the EA community compared to the general population (e.g., 0.5% of the responders to this UK census identified differently from their sex at birth vs. 5% of the responders to this EA survey identified outside of the gender binary — statistics on sexual orientation would prove my point on the dating pool better but we lack such data points for EA demographics).
In all seriousness, warm fuzzies matter too. Friendships and romantic relationships with other EAs cost almost nothing and can multiply both fuzzies and utilons.
Conclusion
London (and later in the year, New York) is full of interesting, smart, ambitious, hot, (and sometimes controversial) people at EAG or just on the streets, so you really shouldn’t need much convincing to talk to them. Go forth and slide into their DMs!
Billie Eilish said people can't love animals and eat meat. The internet exploded. And honestly, watching vegans pile on in the comments made me realize we're doing this wrong. I wrote a deep dive into what the psychological research actually says about cognitive dissonance — and how we can stop being cast as the bad guy every time something like this happens.