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Seeming nonsense in Ch. 8?

I’ve been enjoying the novel so far, but in chapter 8 (“summon the eight missing players”) I’m seeing what appears to be absolutely nonsense reasoning from many people including Chen Ran.

The whole thing where they’re “deducing” and “concluding” that the marriage must be broken because of the torn photograph, or that there must be a second child, all the way up to saying that the second kid must have died or gotten lost etc… On its face, this kind of vague associative reasoning doesn’t work. Whoever made the chamber might have just torn off the edge of the page, they have no idea that it’s even a “half”. The girl might not be the man’s daughter. Might be a family friend, for one of many alternative explanations. Etc etc.

I can imagine how this might not be nonsense: maybe these veteran players have learned from experience that this kind of reasoning works in the context of these puzzles, and maybe Chen Ran has deduced that if they were really so stupid as to make these kinds of mistakes they wouldn’t have survived long enough to be veterans, so they must be following a learned contextual logic, and is hence following that logic himself. But really these logical leaps should be considered “common sense lies”, I would have thought.

Can someone tell me if this is the author being dumb or not? I’d read on if there’s some explanation for this, even if it’s just “the characters are dumb right now and this is intentional by the author and they will get smarter later”.

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u/WarQuirky6833 — 1 day ago

The Ten legendary systems of the true self players + Hidden cultivation method of the twelfth True self player

1.Supreme goodness is like water

2.Unity of heaven and man

3.Omniscient perspective

4.Dao extreme

5.Three corpse transformation technique

  1. Traditional mind cultivation method

7.Daoist heart demon seed

8.Ghostly path soldier

9.Distance-less

10. Nine Revolutions Ghost God Realm...

Bonus: Black hair turns to snow by dusk

Involves aging and the passing of time, abuse of space-time skills, due to space involving distance, and distance-less having an attack that ages you. Lin Ou has white hair and Lin Xuan has black. Lin Ou wrote 18LOH. The skill Rubiks cube world involves space that has different passages of time. The hidden System involves Lin Xuan and Lin Ou, The Double lin's System involve Dimensionality.

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u/No_Woodpecker_1801 — 1 day ago

Chapter 906-907 Raws Discussion - Chen Ran's Tomb Arc

In which Jiang Zhe uses some Skills, Chen Ran thinks a little, Jiang Bieli is mentioned for once, and Jiang Zhe rudely walks into a nice friendly gathering.

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u/JohnKonami — 2 days ago

Quality post - Qiu Yinong will (propably) betray stab Chen Ran in the back this arc

First, Yue Guanshan has definitely chosen the top-tier seven stars for his teammates

Chu Yinian, and Qi Yanqing have outrageous skills and Zhu Yiting is self explanatory.

But one thing is amiss... Feng Qirui seems tobe a bit underqualified.

First, his skill should break apart teams. But other than a double KO scenario, such a skill with only long-term effects should not qualify for Yues team. Also, if someone suddenly started acting out, CRs team would be aware and defend themselves. So, what we get is that Hate Sea Clear Sky is a covert mental superego skill with both short and long term effects.

We still have a problem here. This skill needs to be used ideally on team CR. And, there is a requirement of hiddeness too, better even for time-travelers like was boosted Han Fei.

So, Yue Guanshans knows this and devises a plan. The sends FQ to fight QY one on one where no one is watching. There he has an opportunity. 1. Qiu Yinong would never get hit by HSCS directly, only in a future only she can see. Still, the effect would count - it must be outrageous given that it should be seven star. And given QYs military strategy, she will wait till the perfect moment to attack...

So YG either 1. has FQ kill QY or 2. Has QY betray team CR - both options work out well.

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u/Feamarth2 — 3 days ago

Okay I am starting to see why people were saying he also scaled high in normal scaling haha

What an interesting addition to the power system, I am very interested to see how the author will make use of this.

But somehow he instantly mastered this so quickly, even faster than first realm mind cultivation??? I can only hope this Shu Renjun really pushes him and humbles him a little, otherwise this will be too boring 😭🙏

u/Jazzlike_Peanut_2792 — 6 days ago

Chapter 897-898 Discussion - Chen Ran's Tomb Arc

In which Lin Xuan and Chu Yinian finish their light skirmish (complete with 87 twists) and Qi Yanqing participates. Oh, and Lin Xuan dies again.

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u/JohnKonami — 6 days ago

Qiu Yinong outsmarted Chen Ran here lol

Qiu > Chen should not be an uncommon take. She kind of victimizes in addition to auramogging him 😹

u/Mental_Ad_1830 — 8 days ago

Chapter 897-898 [Chinese Raws] Discussion - Chen Ran's Tomb Arc

In which the plan against Chu Yinian is executed, the Bronze Coffin does some sick moves, Qi Yanqing is sent to interfere, and Lin Xuan does some comic relief again.

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u/JohnKonami — 7 days ago

Chapter 895-896 Discussion - Eighteen Levels of Hell

In which Lin Xuan's Skills are (mostly) explained, Chen Ran comes up with a plan, Chu Yinian gets a 2 sentence flashback, and Lin Xuans die again.

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u/JohnKonami — 7 days ago

Chapter 899 [Chinese Raws] Discussion - Chen Ran's Tomb Arc

In which we're explained the intricacies of what happened in the last two chapters, and in which no one is satisfied.

Couldn't even come up with sth funny this time, these are pure explanation chapters.

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u/JohnKonami — 6 days ago

Do you guys know if there are any characters in the entire fiction that can kick the ass of the entire 18loh cast? Like They get sent to the world of 18loh and immediately kick ass of 10 star players and stuff like that

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u/SomeDepartment8898 — 8 days ago

Chapter 893-894 [Chinese Raws] Discussion - Chen Ran's Tomb Arc

In which Lin Xuan reveals yet more of his Skill's many, many, many effects, and successfully gathers some information.

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u/JohnKonami — 9 days ago

Chapter 991-992 [Chinese Raws] Discussion - Chen Ran's Tomb Arc

In which Lin Xuan dies again after a quick probe against Chu Yinian, and some info about Bronze Coffin is uncovered.

Note: It's chapter 891-892, you saw nothingggg.

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u/JohnKonami — 10 days ago

Is it a crime to actually like lin Xuan??

"Do I look like a fool to you?"

The air froze slightly. Chen Ran, Autumn is in full swing, Han Fei, and Jiang Zhe all covered their foreheads, seemingly unable to bear watching Lin Xuan's maneuver.

No, man, of all the people you could pick, you chose the strongest one to bluff?

Lin Xuan: "..."

The fact that it just seems like lin Xuan just gets dumber or something i understand he's not near anyone's level but damn it just keeps getting worse now each time lin xuan tries to do something i just pray he doesn't embarass himself how did it get to this well I'm still rooting for him a miracle he's lasted this long honestly.

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u/PublicReputation7789 — 13 days ago

Chapter 887 [Chinese Raws] Discussion - Eighteen Levels of Hell

In which a girl tells the police a nice little fairy tale. Li Hailong? Who's that?

I suppose Li Hailong's backstory was to be expected with how much time we've spent on him. I just hope it doesn't take the better part of a week this time, though on the other hand a break isn't too bad.

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u/JohnKonami — 12 days ago