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Be prepared also on your vacation (advice from croatian wildfires)

TL;DR: If you're staying somewhere during wildfire season, especially in a drought, be prepared to evacuate at a moment's notice. On vacation, you often don't know your surroundings well, and your belongings are scattered everywhere. Having even a lightweight "bug-out bag" ready can make a huge difference.

Hey, I just wanted to share a recent experience from our vacation, where we were caught in the middle of a wildfire evacuation at midnight.

We're staying in a self-catering apartment in Omiš-Nemira, Croatia, with my wife and our three kids, aged 7 years, 3 years, and 8 months. Last Friday, we were woken up in the middle of the night by our neighbours. There was no warning. We just saw smoke and the dim light of nearby fires. The electricity was still on at that point.

Our luggage was half unpacked, food was lying on the countertop, and basically nothing had its proper place. Everyone tells you to stay calm in an emergency, but until you've actually been through something like this, that's much easier said than done. I grabbed our youngest child, put him in the stroller, and took his bag, which was only half packed with clothes, while my wife woke up our other two kids.

Then the electricity went out. That triggered another wave of panic. We thought we had almost no time left. The only light I had was from my phone. I grabbed our beach bag because I knew it contained some emergency food for the kids, as well as a power bank and cable that I had fortunately left charging overnight. Then we left the apartment.

Our first instinct was to get into the car and drive away. Thankfully, the mother of our apartment owner lived downstairs. She told us not to take the car and that we needed to go to the beach because the roads would most likely be blocked. That advice may have made all the difference.

A few minutes later, we were on the beach, about 50 metres from the apartment. Smoke was everywhere. We could see fires burning along the coast on both sides of us, seemingly about 150 metres away. After we returned the next day, we realised they had probably been closer to 250 metres away, but at night, surrounded by smoke and panic, they looked much closer. There were probably another 100-150 people on the beach with us.

The mobile network was practically unusable because everyone was trying to make calls at the same time. I searched through our bag, found some clothes, soaked them in seawater, and gave them to everyone to hold over their mouths and noses. But then there was our 8-month-old baby. You can't explain to a baby why he needs to keep a wet cloth over his face. He hated it, started crying, and the more he cried, the more smoke he inhaled. Fortunately, we had the stroller with us, so we managed to create something resembling a small covered tent around him to protect him from some of the smoke.

Eventually, someone managed to call the 112 emergency line. They told us that rescue boats should already be somewhere nearby, but because of the extremely thick smoke and very strong wind, they couldn't find us. Everyone started waving their phones and using their flashlights, but it did basically nothing. Then someone pulled out a really powerful flashlight and switched it into that incredibly annoying flashing mode that normally seems completely pointless. Now I understand exactly why that mode exists.

About five minutes later, the first boat appeared. But there was another problem: those buoys connected by ropes that mark off the swimming area on beaches. The rescue boats couldn't get through them. And naturally, because everyone wants a nice family-friendly beach, the water was very shallow. So there we were, watching rescue boats sitting maybe 30 metres offshore, unable to reach us, while a wildfire was burning behind us.

Those few minutes felt incredibly long. Eventually, they managed to get through. We were shouting that we had a small baby with us. At that point, we couldn't even tell whether he was simply falling asleep or becoming drowsy because of the smoke. Maybe the third boat that reached the beach stopped near us. I got my wife and kids onto it, but we had to leave the stroller behind because it took up too much space.

The relief was enormous. They transferred us to a larger boat offshore, while the smaller rescue boats kept going back and forth to evacuate the rest of the people from the beach.

About an hour later, we got off the boat in the port near Omiš. We could still see the fires burning in the distance. We were directed towards a sports centre where evacuated people could stay, but it was still around 2 km away, so we started walking. Then our apartment owner called us and asked where we were. About ten minutes later, we were sitting in her friend's car.

They took us to a house that was still under construction but was already mostly equipped, with beds, a kitchen and air conditioning. By then it was around 3:30 a.m. That's when we discovered that, despite having three children with us, we had exactly one clean diaper. So our first mission in the morning was finding diapers.

Thankfully, we were able to return to Nemira the following evening. Miraculously, both our apartment and our car were completely unaffected by the fire. So here's the point of this whole story: keep some kind of lightweight "bug-out bag" ready even when you're on vacation.

You don't need to prepare for the apocalypse. Just keep the essentials together in one place: documents, medication, some clothes, diapers if you have a baby, water, basic food for the kids, a power bank, charging cables, and maybe a proper flashlight.

At home, you usually know exactly where everything is. On vacation, you don't. Your clothes are in different suitcases, chargers are plugged into random sockets, food is in the kitchen, documents are somewhere in a backpack, and half your belongings are probably still lying around from your trip to the beach. When someone wakes you up in the middle of the night and tells you that you need to leave now, finding all of that becomes much harder than you would ever expect.

We learned that lesson the unpleasant way.

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u/luker963 — 3 days ago

Sto iniziando a prendere sul serio il prepping: su cosa dovrei concentrarmi?

Ciao a tutti, vivo in Italia e sto iniziando a costruire seriamente la mia preparazione.
Non mi interessa prepararmi esclusivamente a un singolo scenario, ma vorrei essere ragionevolmente pronto a una serie di emergenze, da quelle relativamente comuni a situazioni più gravi:
blackout prolungati
interruzioni di acqua e forniture
terremoti e maltempo estremo
problemi alle infrastrutture
crisi economiche o di approvvigionamento
disordini civili
periodi di forte instabilità
necessità di rimanere autonomo per diverse settimane
eventualmente dover lasciare casa rapidamente
Il mio obiettivo è arrivare gradualmente a circa 3 settimane di autonomia, partendo dalle basi e senza fare acquisti compulsivi.
Attualmente ho già alcune scorte di acqua e cibo, sistemi per filtrare/trattare l’acqua, illuminazione, batterie e powerbank, radio, primo soccorso, utensili e una buona disponibilità di energia domestica.
Ho comunque parecchie lacune e vorrei capire dove conviene investire i prossimi soldi.
Il budget che posso dedicare è di circa 200 € al mese.
Dal punto di vista personale mi alleno quasi ogni giorno e pratico karate, equitazione e tiro con l’arco. Lavoro inoltre come manutentore, quindi ho una certa esperienza con utensili, riparazioni e lavori pratici.
Vorrei però migliorare molto anche la parte meno “materiale” del prepping: competenze, pianificazione, gestione dello stress, primo soccorso, navigazione, comunicazioni, ecc.
Mi interessa inoltre approfondire la questione sicurezza e difesa personale, compresa la parte relativa alle armi.
Vivo in Italia, quindi mi interessano soprattutto consigli compatibili con leggi e realtà italiane, non necessariamente il classico approccio prepper statunitense.
Non voglio entrare pubblicamente nei dettagli di ciò che possiedo, dove vivo o come ho organizzato la sicurezza della mia abitazione.
Quello che vorrei chiedervi
Se aveste una situazione simile e 200 € al mese da investire, come costruireste la preparazione?
Quali sarebbero le vostre priorità per:
acqua
cibo
energia
primo soccorso
comunicazioni
illuminazione
igiene
attrezzatura e riparazioni
mobilità/evacuazione
sicurezza della casa
difesa personale
armi e relativa formazione
navigazione e orientamento
fitness e competenze
pianificazione familiare
E soprattutto:
Quali sono secondo voi le cose più sopravvalutate nel prepping e quali invece vengono sistematicamente sottovalutate?
Se doveste costruire una preparazione da zero con 200 € al mese, in quale ordine acquistereste le cose e quali competenze imparereste per prime?
Mi interessano soprattutto esperienze concrete e consigli pratici, anche critiche alla mia impostazione.

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u/Kindly-Willow8291 — 3 days ago

How to prepare for climate change

I was in Spain last month. Talking with a cousin that has a small veggie garden for auto consumption.

Nothing fancy, more like a hobby and to enjoy eating your own tomatoes.

He told me for the last 3 years his tomatoes have dried up before giving any fruit. Each time this has happened he has made an adjustment to plant the seeds 15 days before, so he is now planting 45 days before than when his parents passed down the garden to him years ago.

And he is moving to different varieties. It looks like cherry tomatoes are more resistant to extreme heat.

This preoccupied me. He lives in an agricultural rich area of Spain, that is a country with a long agricultural tradition. This is not poor soil and it was not bad weather area at all years ago. Vineyards, orchards are/were typical sights along the road.

So, if this area is fucked up, I have to wonder big scale. If crops start to fail, I guess we will import more from other regions, but this has some limits.

So how do you prepare for this scenario?

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u/Wise-Painting5841 — 4 days ago

Radios, are they really useful?

Radios - are they useful?

I got my ham license not long ago. I got a couple of VHF/UHF walkie and I have been playing with them.

I heard that walkies are an essential in all SHTF and bugout bags.

But when I have used my radios what I found is silence.

Impossible to find people on individual frequencies, it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

And repeaters are 90% of the time unmonitored.

I completely understand the power of groups, and that there is a lot of advice about finding a local community/group and then you can setup a communication network with them.

But I am an individual.

Maybe in my case it is more important for me to get a short wave radio to be able to hear international news in case of disaster?

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u/Wise-Painting5841 — 13 days ago