
r/FastWriting

Monthy Python: The argument sketch.
written in flow. the whole argument here: https://python.mzonline.com/sketches/argument/
Man: Good morning, I’d like to have an argument, please.
Receptionist: Certainly, sir. Have you been here before?
Man: No, this is my first time.
Receptionist: I see, well we’ll see who’s free at the moment. Mr. Bakely’s free, but he’s a little bit concilliatory. No. Try Mr. Barnhart, room 12.
Man: Thank you.
He enters room 12.
Angry man: WHADDAYOU WANT?
Man: Well, Well, I was told outside that…
Angry man: DON’T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!
Man: What?
A: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS STUFFY-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!
M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!
A: OH! Oh! I’m sorry! This is abuse!
M: Oh! Oh I see!
A: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.
M: Oh…Sorry…
A: Not at all!
A: (under his breath) stupid git.
The man goes into room 12A. Another man is sitting behind a desk.
Man: Is this the right room for an argument?
Other Man: (pause) I’ve told you once.
Man: No you haven’t!
Other Man: Yes I have.
M: When?
O: Just now.
M: No you didn’t!
O: Yes I did!
M: You didn’t!
O: I did!
M: You didn’t!
O: I’m telling you, I did!
M: You didn’t!
O: (breaking into the developing argument) Oh I’m sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?
M: Ah! (taking out his wallet and paying) Just the five minutes.
O: Just the five minutes. Thank you. Anyway, I did.
M: You most certainly did not!
O: Now let’s get one thing perfectly clear: I most definitely told you!
M: Oh no you didn’t!
O: Oh yes I did!
progressively faster exchange
M: Oh no you didn’t!
O: Oh yes I did!
M: Oh no you didn’t!
O: Oh yes I did!
M: Oh no you didn’t!
O: Oh yes I did!
M: Oh no you didn’t!
O: Oh yes I did!
M: Oh no you didn’t!
O: Oh yes I did!
M: No you DIDN’T!
O: Oh yes I did!
M: No you DIDN’T!
O: Oh yes I did!
M: No you DIDN’T!
O: Oh yes I did!
M: Oh look, this isn’t an argument!
(pause)
O: Yes it is!
M: No it isn’t!
(pause)
M: It’s just contradiction!
Quote 91 in FLOW
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
— Benjamin Franklin
Written in this weeks featured, community created shorthand Flow.
Reddit NUMBERS?
I'm not sure what other people can see on these boards, because "Moderators" have things showing that I don't think are visible to everyone here.
But this board currently says it's received 861 visits in the last week. That looks very likely to me, because it works out to about 123 "visits" each day. When MANY people will often drop by to LOOK AND READ, but don't always post anything, that seems very believable. (I also see a count under each message, showing how many people have SEEN it, so these numbers seem likely.)
Similarly, it says there were 65 messages posted in the last week, which is just over nine a day, on average. I know that with MY messages and replies, and the replies and comments from our more prolific posters, many of whom post on a daily basis -- often several times -- this is also quite believable.
In CONTRAST, when I look at that other shorthand board, it's saying they have 7K weekly visits. Really? A thousand people a day? Is that likely? And they say 197 messages were posted in the last week. That works out to 28 new messages every day. REALLY?
Does that board look that BUSY to you? Aside from the usual "Which shorthand should I learn?" questions, where they haven't looked at any other posted messages, and the "What does this say?" messages from people who are never heard from again, I see very little activity there.
Help
I found this from one of my ancestors. It’s in Spanish. What can it mean?
Interpreting Note-taking demo
Not shorthand, but an interesting demonstration of rapid note-taking in consecutive interpreting, from English to Spanish (European Institutions). Rozan, Matyssek, Gillies… principles. With an article in pdf.
https://www.lourdesderioja.com/2013/05/18/my-consecutive-kit/
Things
The bricks of the walls remains the same
The sheets on the bed, the rooms, the clothes and everything
The only thing which changes is your presence in these rooms
Your habits, your favourite food, your things they all might have gone...
But your memories of being here, can't be sure will ever go
Updated shorthand system - looking for feedback
Hello, A couple months back I posted my "Two Talk" concise semantic shorthand system asking for feedback. I got some amazing feedback from this group and have iterated. Honestly, the most difficult feedback I go was "less is more." I've been iterating over the last few months and I have come up with a new version. This one uses 9 symbols to express the 65 semantic primes. Using those and a "stacking" rule I think you can express a lot with a little. I'd love some more feedback if anyone is willing or has time. The system is at www.twotalk.org.
"Multum in Parvo" - Another Example with Translation
Here's another example of phrasing pushed to its limits. Notice that the last sentence, containing 20 words, has been written in FOUR "phrases". Is that really a good idea?
Look at some of those sprawling, contorted outlines. Do you think you could write them clearly and smoothly? I don't think I could....
COMING SOON.....
Our LeadingSuspect5855 has been working hard on his system he calls "FLOW" which is based on the frequency of sounds in English. When I look at it, it immediately makes sense to me -- a very good sign.
He's already produced a 20-page manual/booklet for it, which will soon be available on Stenophile.com when a few final details are smoothed out. I think it will be worth the wait.
He has also produced a 6,000-word reverse dictionary, and has nearly finished a shorthand generator which will produce the correct shorthand outline for any word entered phonetically. (I've tried it out and was amazed.)
He's had to take a bit of break because of eye problems -- which I'm sure were not helped by spending all this time working on the fine details before it's all revealed to the public. But I'm looking forward to this....
Systems for rushed writing?
I notice when I'm in a rush and scrawl my longhand as fast as possible, certain letters or letter sequences degrade badly but others seem to be consistently recognisable. Has anyone ever tried to make use of this effect to create a script that's designed to be rushed? (In contrast to shorthands which are meant to be written in a deliberate and controlled way at every speed.)
Shorthands that are like Gregg but more geometric?
The outlines for "R", "L", "C", "G", and "X" are hard for me to write. I was wondering if there are other shorthands that lack as much curved strokes. I understand that roundness allows for agility in writing, but my TK for learning shorthand is more than anything secrecy and passing the time when bored.
Desperate Attempts to Compensate for Lack of VOWELS - RULE VIOLATION
This is the worst suggestion, IMO: In order to distinguish between YET ANOTHER long list of ambiguous outlines, you're told to violate the RULES you've struggled so hard to learn -- and you're supposed to write some of them in special "incorrect" ways, so you can tell which they were supposed to be. Really?? Are you going to remember which is which?
The PITFALLS of Disemvowelled Systems
In the Introduction to his "New Standard Shorthand" (a system with joined vowels), Charles E. McKEE wrote the following devastating summary: