r/FromTVEpix

Stating that she didn't choose to be like this (a monster). Now of course she could have been lying to build trust to gain entry to colony house, but it also makes you wonder what really happened when the children were sacrificed. Should we feel sympathy for them? Is there anyway to redeem them or free them from their curse?

I have a theory that Tillie is MIY before Sophia.

She was too nice to everyone. She says the Bible quotes and prays like Sophia does. The scene when Tillie and Fatima read the tarot, the crow bangs the window whenever she flips the card. What if that was supposed to make Fatima scared about her pregnancy. When Fatima k*lled Tillie, she said to run. What if she did it because she wants Fatima to feel guilty and hopeless like Sophia did to Sarah. I don't know I just Lost in thought.

so something i noticed that i’m not sure has been mentioned is that when boyd and tabitha managed to kill a monster the rest of the monsters just nope up out of there and retreat for the night. its like they give you the victory, as if to say “you win this round.” I wonder if the MiY actually stipulated that if you manage a win, you get a night of reprieve as if it’s truly a game for him.

So, I think I might have missed somethjng or some theories or if this is even an important aspect.

What I think I know:

The original villagers have been around for a long, long time, potentially dating back 100s of years (if we follow the dates on the trees), but at the very least, >!atleast 5 generations, as noted by Jade's former selves. !<

The clothing the villagers wear makes sense, they can pillage from the fromville residents as cycles change, or as deaths occur,

But what of the houses? Do they rebuild automatically to match a vibe? The houses currently look like 50s decor (ish?), which matches the aesthetic of the og villager monsters.

Decor I can get behind coming in with people as they get trapped, but I can't imagine anyone deciding to just build furnished homes with wallpaper, ("electricity"), fridges, lamps, and phones.

Does a full cycle require EVERYONE to die? (Victor didn't die last cycle, and I saw a theory of here that because of that, the monsters couldn't "regenerate" into a more contemporary look), and if so, does the village update the homes too? (Save for maybe colony house, which is a different era of home).

The other thing that sort of proves this is the playground structure, which was brand new when Victor was a kid, and is now rusty (40 years later), assuming the cycle repeats itself again, would the entire village be rebuilt to match a more 2020s look, apartment buildings, breweries instead of a diner, instagram ready bookstores?

Curious if I missed where this was verified or if this is just speculation?

Another thought, victor said the tree>!s move, and there's the older settlement (vegetables/dolls), was that the old "town!<", and then, as a cycle completed, the current town was built, so rather than refurbishing the village, fromville just essentially gets bigger (In the sense that the borders grow), so in theory, if our heroes don't survive, there >!will be the!< >!settlement!<, the town, and a shiny new town for new folks to stumble upon

What kind of fan are you? I'm like when we first met Jade. I watch the show mainly trying to figure out what FROM actually is. I’m always looking for clues, patterns, hidden meanings, and trying to solve the mystery behind the town. I enjoy the story too, but most of the time my focus is on understanding what’s really going on. My wife is different though she watches more for the story itself, the characters, and the emotional side of everything happening.

So which type are you ? A Jade, a Tabitha, or maybe even an Ethan?

If these monsters have been around since the 1500s, and so has Fromville, then where did the clothes come from that they are wearing? Unless the town itself was at some point incorporated into the town, the people killed there, and their clothes stolen; How does it make sense? If the colonial cabins were like the first structures, then the church, then colony house, then the town- is it like every century Fromville somehow merges homes with the real world with the people that live there, kill them and then take their clothes? I just dont get it. Maybe this is the big question.

So here is my short and to the point theory: The only way to break the curse is the 7 main characters to take the place of the sacrificed children.

My list is:

1. Tabitha

2. Jade

3. Boyd

4. Elgin

5. Fatima

6. Marielle

7. Sara Myers

It's why those seem more connected to the town than the others. I feel like most of the others are just bystanders pulled in along with those seven.

I'm less sure about Mariella. It could be that Kristie is the one and she pulled Marielle in. I honestly haven't given the theory tons of thought. It's just my gut feeling.

Less sure about Fatima too. I hope her and Boyds son get away. I know Boyd would sacrifice himself for them.

But I think in the end, seven of them will take the place of the children.

Clickbait title, but legit topic. Actually hear me out, lol

Storywalking is real (as far as we know, that is, not just happening in Julie's head) but the past seems to be fixed. Meaning that (based on Julie's experience with Jim's death) everything involving storywalking to the past has already happened, and is a part of the present version of Fromland. We'll call this a fixed timeline, as opposed to the branching timelines of a multiverse.

If that's true, then anyone who has tried to change the past in Fromland has already failed because we can see in the present day that everything is awful. And Julie is currently trying to make those changes, which means she's destined to fail. We already saw her fail.

This is the fun part, though: what if she fails worse than just helplessly watching her dad die in front of her? What if, in using her powers without real consideration or understanding, she messes up SO badly that it's contributed to the current state of Fromland? What if, in her storywalking, she accidentally disrupts Tabitha and Jade's original souls from saving the children the first time around? Or prevents someone from stopping the ritual, or any of a million other chaos-theory, butterfly-effect sort of scenarios where a tiny action has a huge ripple effect. Distracting someone at the wrong time. Maybe even killing someone helpful, like she once (pretend) killed Norman.

I know this sounds like wild speculation, but if we go back and really look at the first interaction between the Matthews' family from episode one (which the writers have said is important), Julie is the one who kills Norman, and Tabitha is the one who brings him back.

There's a clear parallel here: Julie, in the past, breaks something, and Tabitha afterwards is the one to fix it. It aligns *perfectly* with the way the show has been building toward things, with Tabitha being sort of set up as the one who'll save the children, and it would be really clever foreshadowing from ep 1.

Even from a storytelling perspective, it would be a great way to show us what happened back in the sacrificing-the-children day without making us sit through a big flashback.

For what it's worth, on a scale of 1-10 in terms of likeliness to be real, I'll give this theory a 5. I think there's some solid in-story context to back this up and I think I'd be quite pleased if they went in this direction. That said, the evidence is mostly circumstantial and there's no *real* proof yet that they'll do anything like that. But it sure would be a great emotional payoff for Julie's storywalking plot arc, and would be the sort of kick in the gut (of guilt and shame) that she really needs as a character in order to get over herself.

I had always wondered if everyone in Fromville was reincarnated, but now I'm starting to wonder who is the minnows and who is the sharks?

Was Abby a shark and Boyd a minnow? It makes sense to me that Abby took them there because she remembered it and she knew if they died they left.

But then Boyd is well - Boyd. Or are they both sharks?

They introduce these mysterious human sized dolls from the water, show them as a threat during the night for a few minutes, then we’re shown they can easily be killed by a stake from one of the statues in the village.

Why create this threat in one episode to then show less than 5 minutes later that they can easily be dealt with? Im genuinely confused why these things were introduced at all, they just seem silly and trivial.

Okay, this theory is wild, but hear me out - we know from the most recent episode that fear can definitely be manisfested - the dolls were a man's fear. It was revealed that marielle hears the screams of the dead and that they cannot leave. We also know that jade is killed by the townspeople every cycle, and that Tabitha's fate is "worse". We also know that the original townspeople made a deal with an entity to gain immortality in exchange for sacrificing the children.

Now, let's look at the boy in white. He helped Victor when he was a child. He reappears to adult Victor in the current timeline. Who else has seen him? Ethan, Tabitha... and Sara. Why Sara? Tabitha is Ethan's mom. Tabitha as Miranda was Victor's mom. What if one of Tabitha's other incarnations was the BIW's mom? That would lead us to believe he shows himself to those tied to her.

Julie can story walk, so I won't count her - she has her own story - but what if Sara is Victor's sister reincarnated? That would explain why she saw the BIW, and the closeness she had started to develop with Victor at one point. And if she can reincarnate, AND we know the dead are trapped, what if THAT is the immortality? Their souls are eternally tied to fromville, which is why they come back each cycle. That is exactly the type of trick an evil entity would play - you get immortality, but not what you imagine. Instead, you get tortured for eternity.

Tabitha and jade are the exception. They tried to stop the sacrifices, and that is why every time, they get killed by the townspeople. Their immortality is tied to the children - the screams for help and their desire to be saved was manifested through the faraway tree they were sacrificed under. But each time they start to remember, they are both killed - knowledge comes at a cost.

So the people are stuck in an eternal loop of torture. The smiling monsters are not the townspeople, but they were the fear of one of the dead townspeople. The manifestation of fear explains why there are so many entities there, and why the smiling monsters were, as Martin stated, "just the tip of the spear". The dolls, the music box monster, the cicadas, the spider, maybe even the MIY - all manifested fear. And until Jade and Tabitha can rescue the souls of the children, none of them can be released.

From the last episode, we discovered Jade/Tabitha always become victims of the town. I have a few predictions of how this is gonna go.

1. Jade will have a very confident plan to save the situation. Things will look and sound good. Things will take a sudden turn and he will realize he just made everything worse for everyone, and maybe even helped the "evil" side by making a move that benefits them unknowingly. The story will be that trying to avoid the "massacre" is actually the very thing that upsets the town and sets off the beginnings of the "massacre", at least it will seem that way, in a self-fulfilling prophecy narrative sort of way. This will be the majority of the rest of season 4, leading to season 5 for our good guys to ultimately fix the situation (which I do think will ultimately happen)

2. "What happens to Tabitha is worse" basically means she's supposed to watch her daughter (or one of her children, at least) die. I'd argue it couldn't possibly be anything else. A lot of people think we never saw Eloise death because she's alive and I too thought this at first. She probably was a story walker also, and I don't think story walking is that big of a deal, at least for now. MIY doesn't seem nervous about this at all. Of course, I do think Julie will hopefully do something previous cycles couldn't, but what that could be, I can't say. I think we haven't seen Eloise's death because of just how important it actually is to to the overall process of From existing. I say just her daughter dying because...

3. The son surviving is a part of the ritual that keeps From going. We are setup with the expectation that both children (son and daughter) are meant to die, and that Victor is maybe the first one that hasn't. I think we will find that the Son (or at the very least, one of the two children) must remain alive to act as the catalyst for the nightmares of the next cycle. We are lead to believe the ritual was incomplete, that two sides are fighting to either complete the ritual or to cancel it out, but I think we will find the ritual happened exactly as the "evil" team (for lack of better term) needed it to happen and every cycle since has gone perfectly for the evil side.

The only caveat here is i'm not exactly confident in how this plays into the "Kill the boy" plot from season 1 with Sarah. Did he know it was not possible but MIY did it anyways just to cause chaos and turmoil? Possibly.

<power gap, still working out what happens between 3 and 4>

4. When you die, your fears (or possibly hopes) become manifest. At some point, Victor will sacrifice himself. His "fear of leaving" and death will be part of the catalyst that allows the rest of the towns people to leave. The purpose of Victor's dad being there is to give Victor the inner strength to make this decision (note: I don't think his dad will convince him to do this, but just being there will give Victor the inner peace and strength to make this decision for himself. I think bringing Victor's dad into the town will be one of the unique things that makes this cycle successful).

Still working on the rest. LMK what you think, I gotta go...

EDIT: After mulling it over, I think I know how "Kill the boy" plays into this. The boy (or, a boy) does have to die, its just not Ethan, it's Victor. What we've learned recently is the death isn't nearly as important as the mind-set of the person at death. The reason the cycle continues is because people are afraid the cycle will continue, and when they die, that's what they create and support through their fears. If Victor sacrifices himself being hopeful that his death will actually release them, to intentionally weaponize his fear against the town itself, it almost certainly will. Victor has to die and it has to be his own decision while he's at peace for it to be successful.

We saw the evil counterpart where the villager was creeped out by the dolls and want them gone. This was his fear. So the dolls came back big and evil.

Fatima is making the golem because she has hope that it means something and she’s actively working against the evil.

If I were writing this show I would establish this concept in one episode and have it pay off a few episodes later.

Boyd will make the connection that they have to be hopeful to fight back. Another contingent would thing they have to use fear to fight back. And that’s where the tearing apart comes in. The fear faction will probably try to will something into existence to fight the monsters but it will backfire.