r/Goat_Format

Hi everyone, can anyone help me out? I have the five legendary dragons from Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s here, which came from a Yu-Gi-Oh! Advent Calendar from 2011. They all have the same misprint: the names have no color and are embossed so deeply that you can even see the imprint on the back of the cards.

I’m curious to know roughly how much these might be worth.

Thanks in advance! 😊

Used these sleeves in red 20+ years ago when I played as a kid & got a few packs of them in the mail today. So hyped!

Hi, I've recently been playing Edison format and have heard a few things about timing. For example, when Shura destroys a Dupe Frog, it doesn't activate its effect to add a monster to your hand because Shura steals the timing, as its effect is the last one to activate. Now I was wondering: in goat format, if Ghost Knight destroys a Recruiter, like Giant Rat, does the Recruiter's effect activate?

I read it had cards from Flaming Eternity and before and I thought, "Perfect! I can still build plenty of Goat decks without the cards in Lost Millennium", but I was totally wrong. It's missing so many playable cards from before Flaming Eternity.

I'm not criticizing the game at all. Just warning my Goat brothers about the reality of it before going into it.

Here's a quick list I made of the missing cards:

- The Monarchs

- Lv 4 Fusions

- The Amazoness cards

- The Archfiend cards

- The Gravekeeper cards (Except Assailant)

- The Hex-Sealed Fusions

- The Lv monsters (Expect Silent Magician)

- Aqua Spirit

- Blade Knight

- Blowback Dragon

- Chaos Sorcerer

- Dark Balter the Terrible

- Fiend Skull Dragon

- Fusilier Dragon, the Dual-Mode Beast

- Gatling Dragon

- Garuda the Wind Spirit

- Giga Gagagigo

- Gigantes

- Hand of Nephthys

- Insect Knight

- KING DRAGUN (NOOOOOOO!!!)

- Millenium Scorpion

- Mudora / Kelbek

- Ninja Grandmaster Sasuke

- Nobleman-Eater Bug

- Old Vindictive Magician

- Paladin of White Dragon

- Ryu Kokki

- Ryu Senshi

- Silpheed

This deck has been evolving for years and actually started out as Megarock Dragon. Performs pretty well usually.

While some are obvious like TP2 Morphing Jar, or TU02 Chaos Sorcerer…

How about LON 1st Kycoo vs HL04 Kycoo? I personally love the Hobby League ultras, but arguably super 1sts are harder to come by.

Another one would be Graceful Charity… SDP 1st is the og, HL04 is beautiful, but DLG1, RP01, LCYW, etc. are not promos or from a deck and actually need to be pulled.

Thoughts? Does cost affect your opinion? (Yes I know it’s entirely inconsequential to gameplay, sorry!)

thoughts on my goat zombie control deck? i copied mostly from echo ygo and i put some things. i just want some opinions if this is still viable and what things i need to change Thanks!!!

I'd long wanted a couple of Goat Detox decks just to have around and play with friends, but with some cards being prohibitively expensive, I looked to proxies. This guide is a result of my trial and error in making this a reality for anyone else who might wanna do something similar. The following method was inspired by this post on r/DuelMasters as well as this guide for creating Pokémon proxies with MPC. I'm not saying that this is the absolute best, easiest, or most efficient way to do this, but it is a viable way, and I've been happy with the results so far and have also ordered sets for Yugi-Kaiba Detox and Squirrel Format; I'm considering ordering a cube in the future. I've uploaded my proxies for these three sets (plus YDK files and card lists where applicable) if you'd like to check them out for yourself.

Before proceeding, please note that this method will result in proxies that are the standard MTG/Pokémon size, NOT the smaller Yu-Gi-Oh! size. The way I see it, I'm only playing with these cards as self-contained sets; I'm not using them alongside real cards and certainly not trying to enter tournaments with them, so the size difference really doesn't bother me. These are just for fun and NOT meant to replace authentic cards in any official capacity.

Step 1: Gather card artworks. Once you know what cards you wanna proxy, download the artwork for each of them. The best source I've found is user Gold3nB3ear on DeviantArt, who has posted high quality images for virtually every card in Goat Format and a bit beyond that. Any missing images should be relatively easy to find on DeviantArt, although if you prefer alternate artworks for any cards, you may have to look elsewhere.

Step 2: Generate the card images. Yu-Gi-Oh Carder by lauquerm is the best card generator that I've found, as it gives you near total control of the final image and offers lots of cool options. Of course, you can go nuts and change existing cards or create fully custom cards, but since these proxies will be ordered via MPC, I would strongly advise that you leave the Copyright and Sticker fields blank, as these could result in your order being denied and having to to regenerate all of your cards. (You may even want to write "PROXY" or something similar in the Set ID, Password, or Corner Text field, but I haven't found this to be necessary.) I've found that it's easiest to copy card text from Duelingbook, but because we're focusing on Goat Format, I would refer to this page that lists all of the pre-errata effects for the cards that were nerfed later on. Definitely double check the cards as you're doing this; if I'm doing a bunch at once, it's easy for me to forget to change the level, attribute, ATK/DEF, etc. between each of them. When you download each image, the standard 813 x 1185 resolution is totally fine.

Step 3: Edit the card images for MPC. Unfortunately, MPC does not offer a Yu-Gi-Oh! card size, so we have to optimize the images for a 63 x 88 mm card. To do so, I use LunaPic and follow this procedure for each card:

• Upload the card image; make sure that the dimensions match 813 x 1185.
• Go to Edit -> Resize Image; change the width to 744 and the height to 1038.
• Go to Borders -> Border Tool; apply a black, 36-pixel border to all sides.
• Go to Edit -> 4x AI Ultra Resolution; this will result in a final image that's 3264 x 4440.
• Download the image; repeat these steps for all other cards.

This is a bit tedious, but if you're handy with Python, I imagine there's a way to automate this!

Step 4: Order the cards from MakePlayingCards.com Once on the site, select Custom Game Cards and size 2.48"×3.46" (63×88mm). For the card stock, I use S33, but S30 is also a viable and slightly cheaper option. The 55 card option aligns nicely with many Goat decks if you include the side deck, but if you're using Fusions or Tokens, you may need to size up. The other options are up to you, but I've been happy with MPC card game finish, no booklet, and shrink-wrapped packaging. After this, you must enter the exact number of cards in your deck; failure to do so will result in blank cards, and if you mess this up, you have to start over. For Customize Front: Image & Text, select Different Images, drag and drop the finished PNGs (this can take a few minutes), and drag however many of each card you need into each blank slot. You'll notice that the black borders we added are not visible; these will be cut off in the production process. Skip Add Text to Front. For Customize Back: Image & Text, select Same Image, upload the image for the back of the cards, and drag it into the empty slot. You can use whatever you want, but do NOT use anything with the Konami and/or Yu-Gi-Oh! logos. I was able to get one order through with the official card back (sans logos), but for every other order I had to use something else. Feel free to use whatever you want, but I've included a few card backs that may work in the upload linked above. Skip Add Text to Back, and finally Preview & Add to Cart! If there is an issue with your order, MPC may email you, but they've been very accomodating in my experience.

That's it! Only other thing I'd suggest is getting some card sleeves and maybe a box if you don't already have. If you end up doing this, let me know if it works for you. If you have any suggestions to streamline this method or for an alternate way to get proxies, feel free to share :)

Hi! upfront, I'm not really deep in the community. I grew up playing and watching Yu-Gi-Oh and I still dip back in from time to time with Duel Links and Master Duel. I wanted to play Goat Format, but the manual, tedious bookkeeping you have to do on Dueling Book really wasn't for me. So I vibecoded a Goat Format simulator.

https://circlenline.github.io/goat-format-simulator/

Right now it's PvE only (you play against bots) and that's what I'll keep polishing. Later I'd love to build a multiplayer mode, and maybe even integrate it somewhere if the feedback is positive.

The one thing I want to be clear about: I didn't write the rules. It runs ocgcore, the same engine EDOPro uses, compiled to WebAssembly and started in MODE_GOAT. So SEGOC, ignition priority, the six damage-step timings, attack replays, one Field Spell for both players, 0 ATK vs 0 ATK destroying both — all of it resolves the way it did in 2005, because it's the actual engine and not my reading of the rules. No agreeing with your opponent about what happened.

What's in it:

• The 1,685 cards legal in the format, checked against the Project Ignis banlist
• 20 tournament decks included (Goat Control, Chaos Turbo, Warrior, Zombie, Burn, Horus…)
• A deck builder with copy limits and YDK import/export
• Four bot difficulties, and a Bot Mode where you work through every deck at every difficulty with medals for the ones you beat
• English and Spanish, and it works on a phone in landscape

On the bots: there's one brain, and the easier levels are that same brain with specific flaws — "never responds during your turn", "picks attack targets at random", "plays a worse move x% of the time". I measured what each flaw was actually worth over 250 games instead of guessing, because my first attempt had four difficulties that all played identically and I only noticed by running the numbers. They're heuristic, not search-based, so they won't out-play a strong player — but they'll punish sloppy ones.

It's AGPL-3.0 (ocgcore and the card scripts are) and the source is all in the repo, so have a look if you're curious how it's put together.

I'd love it if you'd check out the GitHub repo or just click the link and play a bit, and tell me what you think. If you find bugs, there's a "Download log" button in the top bar — it dumps the seed, both shuffled decks and every engine message. Send me that file and I can reproduce your exact duel.

i wanted to know if i should use to this guy in my deck because i have a problem with some discard card effects.

specially when they are recicled with magician of faith ........

I absolutely DESPISE Delinquent Duo. It's the most obnoxious card besides BLS (BLS because it warps the meta so much around it, Duo because its simply annoying) and that's the whole reason this deeck exists in the first place.

There are many cards that can punish Duo, but Despair from the Dark probably is the most devastating one. Getting to summon a 2800/3000 beatstick just because your opponent dared to make you discard cards just feels amazing, even better when he uses Card destruction while you hold 3 of them.

Usually the problem would be that running so many tributes often means dead draws, but Zombies has an amazing way of dealing with it - Call of the Mummy. This allows us to cheat out Kokki or Despair when we can't use them in a situation. To support that I run a copy of Double Coston as well, which also lets us run DMOC.

Spells are your standard Zombie package with 3 Tribute to the doomed, which work amazingly well in this deck due to running so many big Zombies. I ran 3 Call of the Mummy at first, but they bricked too often. 2 is enough.

Traps are as minimal as possible. 3 Decree, RotD and Call because they work well even with Decree and 1x DDV just because this deck profits so much from it.

Lmk what you think!

I love looking for undervalued cards in GOAT format. I recently put together a strong, competitive deck that utilized three copies of Venus, Kelbek, and Mudora, and while I love assembling whole decks to create value out of oft-ignored strategies, sometimes I feel like cards themselves deserve some attention for being usable in a myriad of situations.

Enter Graverobber. This Trap lets you pilfer a Spell from the opposing GY, with a cost of 2000 if you choose to activate it. The most-commonly used cards like Magician of Faith and Dark Magician of Chaos grant you a Spell from your own GY. More often than not, those Spells fit your deck's strategy than your opponent's. However, I'd argue Graverobber is a necessary side-deck staple, for several reasons.

1. Graverobber counters MoF and DMoC

MoF is a staple for many championship decks and it fits in cleanly with many strategies. The ability to return a used Spell to the hand is a powerful advantage despite the waiting for Flip effects. Countering MoF with Crossout is great, but Crossout has three problems: (1) only two are allowed, and the set monster it targets might not even be MoF, (2) your own MoF(s) could be banished in the process, and (3) if your opponent isn't setting monsters, it's a dead card.

Graverobber is a nifty little surprise that takes away the Spell your opponent targeted. It adds it to your hand temporarily, so MoF's effect has been totally neutralized. Additionally, since Flip monsters are attacked into on your turn, that card could be used by you instead now.

The same goes for DMoC, with a caveat: DMoC doesn't target. However, more often than not it's easy to guess which card is going to be added to the hand - especially in a DMoC/Cannon Soldier loop. Graverobber neutralizes this OTK by taking away the Dimension Fusion needed to continuously return DMoC to the field.

2. Most decks utilize the same Spells anyways

Very few spells in competitive decks are hyperspecific. I've never seen a winner that didn't use Pot or Charity (maybe Duo, but it's rare). The name of the game is control, and having a strong, versatile hand is pivotal for that. But let's say you wanted more, or your draw cards are buried in that deck somewhere and you've yet to draw them. Graverobber can leech off your opponent's drawing cards. Upstart Goblin deposits 1000 LP for drawing one card, which makes spending 2000 LP for Greed just as economical.

But it doesn't just have to be draw cards. Snatch, Heavy, and even Reinforcement can be viable options. The later in the duel this card is used, the more flexible it becomes. That's especially true for decks that utilize Reasoning and Monster Gate. They're begging to have their Spells be pilfered! All for a LP price that is often less than what Solemn costs*.*

3. Graverobber forms an incredible combo with Dust Tornado

One drawback of Graverobber is that it's a Trap, which means you can't use it immediately and activating it takes up a lot of time. Plus, if your opponent does utilize MoF and you've added the Spell to your hand, you won't be able to use it that turn. Or at least you won't be able to normally.

Dust Tornado has a very useful post-backrow destruction effect that allows you to set a Spell or Trap from your hand. If you've pilfered a Spell your opponent was about to add back to their hand, activating DT lets you set that Spell. In doing so, the Spell is not sent back to the GY at the end of the turn. Even better? Activating it does not cost 2000 LP anymore! The only downside to this strategy is it's rendered moot if your opponent has no backrow. While I do see this on occasion, most of those same decks are near-pure Spell decks and you'll in all likelihood use Graverobber to take a milled card.

I'd love to hear thoughts about Graverobber, even if they are arguments against it. I'd also like to hear if this card is in your deck at all, or is side-decked.