r/GreatCanadianTreasure

Hitting the wall

My head is spinning. I've been dreaming of the poem and often awaken with the fast-fading remnants of a brilliant dream idea that leads nowhere.

I need a refresh. I wish there was a closer location where I could take my obsession offline and into the real world. I need to get outside. But the poem is a map and I can't read it. I think I find a key and then, it doesn't turn.

I need to let go for a few days. But.I.Can't.

Is anyone else feeling this way? I really want to jump in on the hunt and actually explore and celebrate the amazing country we are so privileged to be living in. What is stopping you? Life obligations? Weather? Health? Distance? For me, it has been all of the above.

I don't post often, but I read and appreciate your comments. Good luck fellow prospectors. If you need a break from puzzling and reasearch, I offer a little Robert Service below for your reading enjoyment.

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u/kophykupp — 1 day ago

Just my hunch for the grand prize

I had posted a few months back with a different account about this location.

I feel like there's a lot that checks out. Plus, considering the overall placement within the entire country... anyway, I'm not here to die on this hill, and I respect the fact that others have their perspectives and opinions, but this seems like a strong candidate. I live in the Okanagan valley in BC and don't foresee myself being able to make the trek out, but if I could I would start on the NE shore........

u/Ill-Educator2958 — 2 days ago

"We've cleared the bush and we've tilled the land, We've built our homes with a helping hand, *Though scattered wide from north to south and from side to side, We hear the fiddle calling”

”A dozen paces, scattered wide, from north to south, from side to side. No single path will see you through; twelve broken strides reveal the clue.”

Do you guys see the similarity?

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u/Zealousideal-Cod3810 — 3 days ago

Latest clue cries Greater Sudbury

The latest clue was released yesterday:

I spent the entire night (no sleep) doing extensive online search, looking to decipher some of the clues within the clue, trying to take a “side trail” on the matter. This is what I got: please challenge me, as I like debate.

The Clue:

“A dozen paces, scattered wide, from north to south, from side to side. No single path will see you through; twelve broken strides reveal the clue.”

The Analysis:

DOZEN PACES SCATTERED WIDE

Draw pace scatter plot for these location coordinates (dawson city and cobalt and kleanza provincial park and Dover Newfoundland and britannia mine and tommy thompson park and bathurst new brunswick and val d'or and regina and great slave and flin flon and fort mcmurray)

AS YOU CAN SEE I MADE UP THE LAST FOUR LOCATIONS (they are so far unknown) AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WEAKNESSES OF THIS ANALYSIS

NEXT:

TWELVE BROKEN STRIDES

Draw a sequence diagram between the twelve locations, USING THE SEQUENCE THE REGIONAL PRIZES WERE RELEASED UPON

next step:

think of the NEAREST RESEMBLANCE TO THE SHAPE OF THE SEQUENCE DIAGRAM

IT IS CONSTELLATION(S)

next step:

Which canadian town or city is linked to “constellation(s)?

Shape of constellation=Greater Sudbury

based on my analysis, the grand prize is in the Greater Sudbury Area.

but where???

I heard thousands of people have already searched the GSA extensively.

For People of Sudbury:

Use today and tomorrow for deeper search!!

For everyone else:

Challenge me! Start the debate!

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u/Zealousideal-Cod3810 — 5 days ago

Dozen Paces -> Zoned Capes

Might be dealing with some tricky word play. Possibly referencing the hero theme again?

Has anyone tried doublets? ie: SWAN-SWAR-SOAR-BOAR A swan is a boar in a few easy steps.

u/FlatZookeepergame844 — 5 days ago

9-Day Advantage for Subscribers

Just wanted to mention that the Saskatchewan treasure clue was released 9 days after subscribers had received the clue, giving subscribers a huge lead into searching for the Saskatchewan treasure.

I am quite surprised that it took longer than a week for them to release the clue honestly, and the same day they release it, they release another clue for the main prize... lol.

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u/TomatoSubstantial342 — 5 days ago

Four Days in the Circle - 06/01

Boots on the ground, from Saskatoon to Muskiki Springs to Lanigan...

This is my story.

DAY 4

https://preview.redd.it/philupazx35h1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75c8dc81a069396dd52d3004484130695a3ba782

https://preview.redd.it/uz22z9xzx35h1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f42f6efa9003b52182c8149dcc36e76533950bf0

I bounded into the Heritage Centre at 9am sharp, met the volunteers, made a small donation, and bee-lined to the potash displays.

The rooms were educational 🏫

but, ultimately, ineffectual for the purpose of my visit.  I just couldn't glean any clues from the exhibits - as impressive as they are.

I even watched Nutrien's corporate video ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://reddit.com/link/1tvxr6b/video/mi592iq4y35h1/player

And toured the caboose

https://reddit.com/link/1tvxr6b/video/706y1erky35h1/player

https://preview.redd.it/knkcb9dly35h1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39518f4cfd93d943d1ae59c854b3c2a8a455e3d1

https://preview.redd.it/h9t3nftly35h1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a59806bdbc1ab4871cdc8b98e562a74cabf2c515

As nice as the visit was, I left yet another museum empty-handed.

I felt stuck . yet convinced that I was in the right area.

https://preview.redd.it/9sx90hu2z35h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=332eef9dc114ca8d13ff2eb6a6da759bdc53f488

There are no hiking trails or look-out points in this part of the world...

so I found reasonable facsimiles 

https://preview.redd.it/guzzdb3qy35h1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed52bae6a3426e845f38b28ec308b17837601947

and searched them thoroughly.

https://preview.redd.it/tor16hjry35h1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f840ea622f2e96a0a3b6ce9285a34c9408254691

This spot can be debated whether it's public or private...

https://preview.redd.it/r0zu45gty35h1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79b0d96c7ff0c095b46e84c621d4a349c847cf2c

When it's a moral dilemma, you know it's time to go home.

4 days in the circle!  Going hard.  It's a rollercoaster ride, this treasure hunting business.  Soaring highs and crushing lows.  I don't regret any of it.  I'm at peace with how the time was spent and where I spent it.  But it's time to widen my perspective.

Oh - a word about ticks.  They're no joke.  Invest in some tick spray and you'll wind up picking only 3 off yourself instead of 30.  Here's what I use:

https://preview.redd.it/byzdtil0z35h1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa8e5b5a457c3f330bde1949cec478d51f7de299

Be prepared, be well, and good hunting! 

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u/WayyyUpYonder — 7 days ago

Four Days in the Circle - 05/26

Boots on the ground, from Saskatoon to Muskiki Springs to Lanigan...

This is my story.

DAY 1

SK clue dropped at 2:19pm.  I was in the truck by 4 and rolled into Toontown at 6:30.  Bee-lined to the WDM  (naturally)  bc of the Ring.  The museum was closed, of course, but the local Car Club was meeting there right at that time.  I talked my way in and had my run of the place.  While the gearheads socialized and my competition was outside kicking rocks, I was cruising the exhibits and snapping pix like a wild man.  No - I don't play fair.

https://preview.redd.it/4epmo92wn35h1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44cd7d5a11c6087f46e81dc6c6a781f7a146cbbb

https://preview.redd.it/qhrkhjnwn35h1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b67e3a35e8589910f36fb49870cc7dd2d2cc8b2

https://preview.redd.it/ehezwokxn35h1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29435810b63275ee820021a7e8e4cf4afd300e9d

\"the phoenix flew\"...?

https://preview.redd.it/op9uof40o35h1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74912236c5995b0132bd9e38435dc11303ac8e44

Obviously the treasure chest wasn't going to be inside the building - any more than it would be on the WDM grounds or next door at Boomtown Park.  No regional prize thus far has been 'urban'.  What I was hoping for was a sign or display of the Morse code clue:  2-6-3-8.  A clever placement of the digits planted amongst the artifacts, I imagined 💭 which would point me toward the actual location.  À la the Toronto regional. 

Unfortunately, this strategy appeared to be a dead end.  No sign of the code.  Heck, there's barely a mention of potash in the place.  After 45 minutes of canvassing the joint, I left, dejectedly .. 

https://reddit.com/link/1tvvzgz/video/d21z3s07o35h1/player

walked over to the outbuildings ; poked around them as I felt obliged to do,

then slunk off to my hotel.

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u/WayyyUpYonder — 7 days ago

Four Days in the Circle - 05/28

Boots on the ground, from Saskatoon to Muskiki Springs to Lanigan...

This is my story.

DAY 3

I hit the ground running with a brilliant gameplan.

Hit 38-26w2.  Home of Dana Salt Lake and Muskiki Lake - the true birthplace of Saskatchewan's industrial alkali mining industry.

https://preview.redd.it/loxs48z5s35h1.png?width=1792&format=png&auto=webp&s=0ad549c45f6f33aecc60060f245a4fa532369e1d

The numbers are inverse of the Morse code clue ;

and this township is within Northern Miner's white circle:

https://preview.redd.it/0r45dwu7s35h1.jpg?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fe20510d073833eaeb0cf39ed90ccb3722e2ce0

https://preview.redd.it/qyehpck9s35h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93870d4a28990e9b8f9c6846eb6ba7a912606e56

I also liked the fact that the Canadian Salts & Potash Co. was established in 1915 - the same year Northern Miner was.  (NM likes to tout that year)

https://preview.redd.it/s6w7406bs35h1.jpg?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eaef7e44cff742bca34c979d9763c04766d7abbb

Spent an hour where Muskiki Springs once was...

poked around some great potential hiding spots

https://preview.redd.it/tnrt5u2ds35h1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=906af886c26e3a041059d63e4e806289b23bf5a3

https://preview.redd.it/9wrl06xds35h1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13a8901a5cc087b452da124f1810e6e03cd35c3c

unfortunately there are no preserved structures or artifacts left at the site 😞

Checked out Dana Salt Lake:

https://preview.redd.it/u6mz9i6gs35h1.jpg?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6b06006367e31521063da2b55baeb8638490a93

only to be reminded (yet again)  that Google Maps is not perfect:

I think I'm missing some road...

https://reddit.com/link/1tvx3e9/video/4kjbngfqs35h1/player

So after back-tracking to the hamlet of Dana, and studying the map again, I just had to go find the intersection of RR26 and Twp Rd 38!

Second Meridian, Range Road 260, Township Road 380

\"one marker stands\"...?

Not reaching down there .. I'm no Matthew Schwartz

https://reddit.com/link/1tvx3e9/video/u6gp8304u35h1/player

That was a full day, so I pointed the truck west and headed back to Stoon - feeling good about how I spent the time.  No regrets.

That concluded my whirlwind tour of Saskatoon to Muskiki Springs - as I needed to trek home that evening.  (damn work gets in the way of treasure hunting)

However:

little did I know that I would return a mere 4 days later, after this juicy tidbit dropped on Discord:

https://preview.redd.it/ccogzz4cu35h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=add9fba2efb2ae8c28295a52388e3aa01736ad35

This li'l revelation was an eye-opener.

I spoke on the phone with a very nice lady, that Saturday, who was on the Lanigan Heritage Board. She informed me that the Heritage Centre was opening for the season on Monday June 1st.

https://preview.redd.it/fmirmc3yu35h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e43c466f1d1f14989200599e1c175b05ad1119f

I re-packed my bag and made plans to be in Lanigan first thing Monday morning.

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u/WayyyUpYonder — 7 days ago

Circles lead where non begun

12 circles total.
We know 9 so far (some provinces had more than one regional prize).

3 regional prizes to go.

The 13th “circle” will be where the main prize is located. If the next regional prize is located in NS (as per the west-east pattern), then the main prize got to be in one of the remaining 4 provinces/territories (unlikely we see another “repeat“ province location).

We will only know which province/territory after all 12 locations are announced.

The main prize will be located in the province/territory which had no regional prize by the end of the regional hunt, which explains the concept of “none begun”.

Any thoughts?

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u/Zealousideal-Cod3810 — 11 days ago

Four Days in the Circle - 05/27

Boots on the ground, from Saskatoon to Muskiki Springs to Lanigan...

This is my story.

DAY 2

Renewed energy, all from one photo:

https://preview.redd.it/9r1c0lbaq35h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13746d48b14f77dca083f5e0146c530afe702ce3

Hopper car POTX 2638.  *chef's kiss

Pictured in Wisconsin ~10 months ago.

But how to track it down?  Where else to start 💡 but the SK Railway Museum.

Awesome

Awesomer

However - the property is home to only one static potash hopper exhibit:  PTEX 32039. 

https://preview.redd.it/mfgcavljq35h1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c18121ec4420a3e30fe18749bcf71f4bd4b3c3cb

https://preview.redd.it/x2gjzebkq35h1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bee20eebdbd97b5818d134853c1c15f9234b6544

But if the side-goal of this race is to immerse yourself in history and heritage - on the way - it's been successful, in that regard.  I spent an hour chatting with old-timers  (volunteers)  who were more than eager to talk the whole thing out 😄

One of them - "PJ" 🙏 enlightened me with valuable feedback:

* 2638 is a Potash Corp car - now Nutrien 

* may be a bad-ordered car now, sitting on a rip track somewhere

* what I'd need is a Canadian Trackside Guide, to access the whereabouts of rolling stock

* unfortunately no free, public domain resource exists... Guides these days are industry/customer-only access 

Despite a very enriching 2 hours, I left the Railway Museum no further ahead in the hunt.

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u/WayyyUpYonder — 7 days ago

Spilling the beans about my SK hunt.

I had originally commented this on the Pilot Butte post, but thought I should move it to it's own post so it is easier to find.

Having lived in Saskatoon for the last 45 years and previously researched SK mining history, I had already picked 4 probable locations. My #1 pick was clearly indicated in the video. (turns out A LOT of others thought so as well) We were on site within 2 hours of the release and saw only a Mom & her 7 year old son. Today, we spent about 6 hours searching, think a small park with mown grass 25 solitary trees and a bunch of gopher holes (3" round at best) and a 150 foot Caragana hedge on the south side. Really the only place to hide something is 1) MAYBE in a gopher hole if it's big enough until the gopher says "WTF is blocking my hole?" and digs around it or pushes it out. We searched the gopher holes, under the bridge, under the boardwalk, under heritage buildings, under garbage cans, leaves piled up along fences, we watched 1 lady search the BIG pile of grass clippings from last year. Or 2) under dead leaves. I spent +/- 5 hours shifting dead leaves in that Caragana hedge, quite a few spiders, many more scratches and one 3/4" long inch worm. So cool how they pull the back end up and shoot the front end forward.

So, That's my report. If you are considering travelling to S'toon to look at that park. That's up to you. I'm not going to be the knob that says "don't come". But I am done looking there. In my opinion it's either found or not there.

I am now looking at plans B, C, etc. But don't really know where that will lead as the indication for plan A was SO strong.

re above: Pilot Butte had a population of 2,638. The morse code in the video clue is "2638". Ok, but what mining history does Pilot Butte have? It's a pretty thin premise. There needs to be more supporting facts than just a population base that changes over time.

I thought it would be easy when things lined up, but now that they are not falling in place as they should, dammit! This could take a while!

Today:

I fully expected a bunch of negative comments that would confirm my decision to stop commenting on Reddit entirely. I was surprised to not receive a bunch of down votes (I know you're still there, down voting every upvote I get, but honestly, I really don't care. I'm already too old and too ugly to be concerned about winning a popularity or beauty contest at this point in my life. You know who you are).

I want to share my solve for the SK prize but my partner thinks I should not. Instead of giving away every connection that leads me to the conclusion that the prize is located at Boomtown Park at the Western Development Museum at 2610 Lorne Ave. in Saskatoon, I'll just say that the research I did months ago lead me to that location before the prize was announced.

I would encourage anyone considering spending time and $ on the trip to join the dots (solve for the location, it's not hard, follow the ring) to confirm if it is worth it to you. If time and $ are not a concern then by all means, do come. There are couple of good hotels within close walking distance with decent restaurants.

I have already expressed my my consternation re: the lack of hiding places. We did go again today for about 3 hours but ended up looking at the same places we already looked at 2-3 times before on Tuesday and Wednesday. If it is there, and has not been found, then the TNM or 3rd party staff that hid it deserve full points on their concealment skills. Top drawer work, really.

I sincerely hope that it is there and that someone with the "right set of eyes" does find it there, but I know it won't be me as I have run out of places to look and finally picked the infected slivers out of my hands. Don't forget your gloves! Not disappointed at all, had a great time looking with my partner.

Hidden signals. Study the terrain. Think like a prospector. Think laterally. If you think you're close, you probably are. And whatever else TNM says....

For those of you who have DM'd me but I have not responed to, I hope this answers your queries. Peace and Love to all.

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u/Moist_Pineapple_7163 — 13 days ago

Main Treasure Prize Location - Theory

After months of following this treasure hunt, and venturing out to over a dozen different locations across Ontario in search of the gold (with a few more locations on my list to still check), I am starting to consider that the main prize may not even be located directly at a site related to mining, or any significant landmark at all.

Whoever planned this treasure hunt likely intentionally chose a final location that will not be found by the general public, and you have to think, thousands of people have searched many sites across Canada related to mining, and the treasure still has not been found. Some locations have been searched extensively by thousands of people to the point where some locations look significantly different to how they looked before the treasure hunt began...

One thing that the treasure planner has full control over is where the treasure is placed. I suspect that as more clues are released, we will soon learn that you have to use one site location (Location A), and go from there to a secondary spot (Location B) where the treasure is actually hidden. Location B has already been said to be in a spot that the general public will not randomly find.

For example, the treasure location on the Toronto Islands was designed in this similar fashion.

What are your thoughts on where you think the main treasure chest is?

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u/TomatoSubstantial342 — 12 days ago