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One of my favorite debate points that stumps every pro-circ person.

I've used this so many times, and then they just stand there barely able to wrap their heads around what I just said like 😮

The point is:

There are 6,800 mammal species. Only whales, dolphins, marsupials, elephants, and bats are born without a foreskin. The reason for this is in these select few species, their penis does not rest flaccid externally; their penis rests flaccid in an internal cavity, unexposed to the outer world. Therefore we cannot compare their anatomy to humans.

But, every single mammal species whose penises are external 24/7 just like humans penises are, have foreskin.

What every single mammal species has in common, is their penile glands are protected from the external world at all times besides during erection.

Do you mean to tell me that evolution made the same mistake across all 6,800 mammal species by making sure their glands are protected?

And did evolution make the exact same extremely specific mistake with foreskin by giving it to (roughly) 6,700 mammal species?

Or, if viewing it from a religious standpoint:

Did God give all 6,800 mammals glan protection by accident? Do you think humans know better than your God?

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u/ElegantlyLethal_R0se — 12 days ago
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Sometimes logic and evaluating what you've witnessed is enough, and you don't need a study.

This is not a stab at science and clinical studies, but rather a reminder that we should all be able to think independently. Studies and research are crucial, but you also can't allow your thoughts and opinions to be purely dictated by a strangers write-up.

We all instinctively and subconsciously know that circumcision is wrong. But cultural influence persuades us and we're taught to not trust our own gut feeling, but rather look to others to form OUR OWN opinion.

I'm sure most of us in this community have at one point or another watched one of those videos where a baby is screaming in agonizing pain while being mutilated. That's plenty enough to come to the conclusion that circumcision is painful, and unethical.

I think so many pro-cutters just lack the ability to think independently in general. They're looking at other peoples opinions to then form their own. It obscures their ability to look at things as they are.

The best example of this is how most pro-mutilators are against FGM but are in support of MGM. Both are performed for the exact same reasons, both cause the victims pain, both are a violation of autonomy, both cause sexual dysfunction and other negative effects; but they've been conditioned by the media and culture to think one is BENEFICIAL, and one is horrific.

You don't ALWAYS need a study, logic is often enough to determine right vs wrong... but either way there's tons of research showing the negative effects of MGM so either way it's absurd.

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u/ElegantlyLethal_R0se — 10 days ago
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Just a Snip

One theme I keep seeing regarding men's issues is the diminishment. You may think this post title was made about circumcision - and it certainly pertains to it. I know you've seen the pro-cutting fetishists refer to it as "just a snip". But I actually was inspired to write this based on vasectomies. I cannot tell you how many times I see vasectomies referred to as "just a snip". Women (it's always women) belittling, mocking, and diminishing men who aren't "man" enough to get a surgical procedure for their benefit. And every single time, there is ZERO mention of post-vasectomy pain risk.

This "small snip" can leave a man with debilitating, life-altering pain for the rest of his days. How often is this discussed in these circles pressuring men? How often are they given the FULL scope of disclosure by these so-called medical professionals that claim to have their best interests at heart?

I find this seemingly unrelated medical procedure so indicative of just how belittled and diminished men's issues really are by every facet of society. Domestic violence against men? Mocked, questioned, and silenced. Statistics thrown about even as they fail to see how those very DV rates are influenced by their campaign to shut out any men seeking justice. I myself suffered DV from an abusive partner and gave up reporting it because of how utterly biased the Australian government and police are towards men. Did you know the only male-specific resource in Australia for DV is a self-report line where men are supposed to turn themselves in as abusers? It is literally inconceivable to them that men could ever be a victim.

Again and again, the hits keep on coming. We are burnt up and ground to dust by a capitalist system that does not give a solitary fuck about us, our happiness, or even our own bodily autonomy. We are reduced to "snips" and other life-altering procedures like fucking livestock. Never given the opportunity to advocate for ourselves, from our very first 24 hours of life. We are asked to fall over ourselves in service to the women in our lives and the families we are obliged to create, even as those very same people robbed us of our very own bodily integrity for their own sick fetishes and cosmetic preferences.

Men are truly are the "L" gender. "Just a snip", indeed.

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u/Exasperated-Victim90 — 11 days ago