
r/JoyDivision

Metal bands influenced by Joy Division?
I know Lars Ulrich liked Joy Division, and Metallica as a whole were influenced by both the post-punk (Killing Joke especially even Jimmy Page loved those guys) and NWOBHM bands. Any other metal or hard rock bands? Besides NIN...haha.
Control (2007) song name
Hia everyone, rewatched control again for the first time in many years and its still just as amazing now.
However at 1:48:00 a song starts playing and i cannot for the life of me find out what it is?? Anybody know
Welke band is dit ?
Ik vind dit persoonlijk een héél goeie cover. Heeft iemand enig idee welke band dit is?
Peter Hook & The Light return to Australia/New Zealand next week! Quick message after today’s rehearsal… get your tickets! Sydney now sold out. Less than 20 left in Christchurch. Less than 50 in Perth. Link in comments.
Peter Hook was telling the truth. Steve and Gillian are no longer touring because of health reasons. Is this just the real reason?
Great time on BBC 6 Music with Chris Hawkins! Popped in with Graeme Park to talk 10 years of Haçienda Classical + discuss Joy Division/New Order RnRHoF induction. Listen back via BBC Sounds. Link in comments.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002y05z
Starts at 1hr 4mins.
Tribute band
Would be a massive help if anyone here has seen the tribute band called transmission
I’ve got tickets to see them in December and hopes are high as joy division are an all time favourite for me
If anyone has seen them live please tell me how they’re performance was
Couple of pictures of the JD tribute band "transmission"
Playing at Stereo, Glasgow 13 December 2025.
Nor great photos, just to give a flavour of what they were like.
Joy Divison Covers Omnibus (only good ones)
- Telekinesis - The Drawback
- Loom - Warsaw
- Moby - New Dawn Fades
- Hot Chip - Transmission
- LCD Soundsystem - No Love Lost
- Pavement - Disorder (Live)
- Tortoise - As You Said
- Nine Inch Nails - Dead Souls
- Starchildren (Smashing Pumpkins) - Isolation
- Kendra Smith - Heart and Soul
- Ravonettes - She's Lost Control
- Technova - Atmosphere
- Stanton Miranda - Love Will Tear Us Apart
- Gazelle Twin - the Eternal
- PINS - Dead Souls
- Trent Renzor and Peter Murphy - Twenty-Four Hours (also Atmosphere, Warsaw)
I would include the Killers Shadowplay, but it's objectively bad. And anyone who tries to say "Nouvelle Vague" will find me in a balaclava crawling into your room at night to destroy your record collection.
- Other Transmissions - Bob's Burgers, Low
- Other LWUTA - Swans (Jarboe Version, Hard Drums Version), Susanna and the Magic Orchestra, Squarepusher, Kaycee (Gus Gus Remix), Paul Young, bis, Celeste, A1 People, Invisible Limits, Babybird, PJ Harvey and Tim Phillips
- Other Dead Souls - Nine Inch Nails
- Other Isolations - Dessau, Isolation Berlin, Babybird
- Other Disorder - Mark Lanegan
- Sampled: UNKLE
- Almost Joy Division - Nightbus Mirrors, Talking Heads Overload, Grinning Plowmen Inquisition
We can cross into New Order/Joy Division territory with Ceremony covers:
- Galaxie 500, Babybird, Chromatics, Active Child, Wussy, Day Wave, Radiohead (although this is one of their weaker covers)
And Bush's cover of In a Lonely Place
And, of course, Let's Dance to Joy Division by the Wombats
What are your guys' thoughts on Bernard Sumner?
I feel like the guy is as interesting as Ian for a number of reasons. In JD, he was the quiet guitar player who hid behind distortion and the atmosphere generated by the band while also loving to moon cars, get drunk, and smear excrement on light fixtures with toilet humor enthusiast Curtis(LOL), European tour mini bus farter Peter Hook, and The Boy Wonder Stephen Morris. He tried to save Curtis' life a month before the final act by walking Ian through a cemetery and explaining the preciousness of life(not to mention doing hypnotherapy with him), but then after Ian died, he was very businessman-like and immediately able to go back to work with Hook and Morris the Monday they should have been in America. All three members took stabs at singing Ceremony during a recording session, but then according to Peter Hook, the tape was wiped(LOL) save Bernard's version and he took over as lead vocalist. In NO, he and Hook and Morris and Gillian emerged as these synth pop warriors enamored of drug-fueled nights on the dancefloor, completely stripped of JD's existentialism and giving off joie de vivre. They let girls around the band and participated in all the glorious excesses of the 80s! But then if you look into his back story, he was caring for his single mother with cerebral palsy throughout his youth and was from humble means, yet was not as emotionally weighed down lyrically as Curtis(at least post-Movement). And then even today, he's not necessarily given the respect accorded other 80s bandleaders like Robert Smith, Dave Gahan, Bono, or Morrissey despite millions of records sold, nor is he the subject of intense emotional connection from fans like Ian is. But he doesn't seem to care.
Truly fascinating.
Your favorite collabs?
As a whole group their collab with Kevin Hewick on ‘Haystack’ is brilliant. For Barney I like his collab for 808 state with ‘Spanish Heart,’ Steve going off doing the Other Two with Gillian on their own and of course Hooky’s with Jaz Coleman and Geordie Walker for K division 93. Love ‘Giving up the ghost.’
New live album Eternal releases 25th September
According to iTunes, it has 14 discs & 192 tracks! The first track is out now as a single:
“Transmission (Live Les Bains Douches, Paris 18th December, 1979)”
Tracklist for Eternal, the new live boxset
Eternal: Live (14CD/2DVD Box)
14 CDs - audio from 16 live performances, sourced from audience cassettes, soundboard tapes, and broadcast recordings, all mastered at Abbey Road Studios
2 DVDs - over 2hrs 30mins of live footage, including the Plan K Brussels concert, two Apollo Theatre Manchester concerts, a soundcheck, and a new edit of Joy Division - A Malcolm Whitehead Film
1 x 16-page booklet - with personal notes by Simon Armitage and photography by Anton Corbijn and Kevin Cummins
12” x 12” lift-off lid box - artwork by Warren Jackson, Peter Saville, Howard Wakefield and Brett Wickens, with cover photography (Sirius Through a Defocused Telescope, 2023) by Wolfgang Tillmans
CD1 Hope and Anchor, London
1 March, 1979 (audience recording by Jonathan Crabb, second audience recording by unknown taper. All previously unheard)
1. Exercise One
2. She’s Lost Control
3. Shadowplay
4. Leaders of Men
5. Insight
6. The Only Mistake
7. Disorder
8. Glass
9. Digital
10. Warsaw
11. Transmission
12. I Remember Nothing
13. Interzone
14. Ice Age
CD2 Tracks 1-13 Bowdon Vale Youth Club, Altrincham
14 March, 1979 ( Exercise One from sound desk recording, rest from matrix of sound desk recording and audience recording from Malcolm Whitehead)
1. Exercise One
2. She’s Lost Control
3. Shadowplay
4. Leaders of Men
5. Insight
6. Disorder
7. Glass
8. Digital
9. Ice Age
10. Warsaw
11. Transmission
12. I Remember Nothing
13. No Love Lost
Tracks 14-20 Acklam Hall, London
17 May, 1979 (previously unreleased audience recording by Jonathan Crabb)
1. Disorder
2. She’s Lost Control
3. Shadowplay
4. Wilderness
5. Insight
6. Candidate
7. Digital
CD3 The Factory, Manchester
13 July, 1979 (previously unheard sound desk recording)
1. Dead Souls
2. The Only Mistake
3. Insight
4. Candidate
5. Wilderness
6. She’s Lost Control
7. Shadowplay
8. Disorder
9. Interzone
10. Atrocity Exhibition
11. Novelty
12. Transmission
CD4 YMCA, London
2 August, 1979 (sound desk recording)
1. Dead Souls
2. Disorder
3. Wilderness
4. Autosuggestion
5. Transmission
6. Day of the Lords
7. She’s Lost Control
8. Shadowplay
9. Atrocity Exhibition
10. Insight
CD5 Futurama 1, Leeds
8 September, 1979 (audience recording by Duncan Haysom)
1. I Remember Nothing
2. Wilderness
3. Transmission
4. Colony
5. Disorder
6. Insight
7. Shadowplay
8. She’s Lost Control
9. Atrocity Exhibition
10. Dead Souls
CD6 Les Bains Douches, Paris
18 December, 1979 (radio broadcast recording, France Inter)
1. Passover
2. Wilderness
3. Disorder
4. Love Will Tear Us Apart
5. Insight
6. Shadowplay
7. Transmission
8. Day of the Lords
9. Twenty Four Hours
10. Colony
11. These Days
12. A Means to an End
13. She’s Lost Control
14. Atrocity Exhibition
15. Interzone
16. Warsaw
CD7 Paradiso, Amsterdam
11 January, 1980 (radio broadcast recording, VARA)
1. Passover
2. Wilderness
3. Digital
4. Day of the Lords
5. Insight
6. New Dawn Fades
7. Disorder
8. Transmission
9. Love Will Tear Us Apart
10. These Days
11. A Means to an End
12. Twenty Four Hours
13. Shadowplay
14. She’s Lost Control
15. Atrocity Exhibition
16. Atmosphere
17. Interzone
CD8 Effenaar, Eindhoven
18 January, 1980 (audience recording)
1. Love Will Tear Us Apart
2. Digital
3. New Dawn Fades
4. Colony
5. These Days
6. Ice Age
7. Dead Souls
8. Disorder
9. Day of the Lords
10. Autosuggestion
11. Shadowplay
12. She’s Lost Control
13. Transmission
14. Interzone
15. Atmosphere
16. Warsaw
CD9 The Warehouse, Preston
28 February, 1980 (sound desk recording)
1. Incubation
2. Wilderness
3. Twenty Four Hours
4. The Eternal
5. Heart and Soul
6. Shadowplay
7. Transmission
8. Disorder
9. Warsaw
10. Colony
11. Interzone
12. She’s Lost Control
CD10 Lyceum, London
29 February, 1980 (sound desk recording (tracks 1-10, tracks 1-9 previously unheard), matrix sound desk / audience recording by Duncan Haysom (track 11))
1. Incubation
2. Wilderness
3. Twenty Four Hours
4. The Eternal
5. Heart and Soul
6. Love Will Tear Us Apart
7. Isolation
8. Komakino
9. She’s Lost Control
10. These Days
11. Atrocity Exhibition
Soundcheck (audience recording)
1. Heart and Soul
2. Incubation
3. Komakino
4. Isolation Instrumental
5. Isolation
CD11 Moonlight Club, London
2 April 1980 (Track 1 audience recording by Andy Hooper, tracks 2-8 (mostly) unheard desk recording (except Sister Ray, which was on Still))
1. Sound of Music
2. Wilderness
3. Colony
4. Love Will Tear Us Apart
5. A Means to an End
6. Transmission
7. Dead Souls
8. Sister Ray
3 April 1980 (audience recording by Andy Hooper)
1. Love Will Tear Us Apart
2. Glass
3. Digital
4. Heart and Soul
5. Isolation
6. Disorder
7. Atrocity Exhibition
8. Atmosphere
CD12 Winter Gardens, Malvern
5 April, 1980 (audience recording by Tim Bayes)
1. Disorder
2. Wilderness
3. Twenty Four Hours
4. Heart and Soul
5. Atmosphere
6. Love Will Tear Us Apart
7. Isolation
8. Interzone
9. She’s Lost Control
10. Girls Don’t Count With Section 25
CD13 Ajanta Theatre, Derby
19 April, 1980 (audience recording by Tim Bayes)
1. Dead Souls
2. Wilderness
3. Digital
4. Insight
5. Passover
6. Heart and Soul
7. Isolation
8. These Days
9. Transmission
10. She’s Lost Control
11. Colony
12. Girls Don’t Count With Section 25
CD14 High Hall, Birmingham
2 May, 1980 (sound desk recording. Track 1, first minute taken from audience recording (recordist unknown))
1. Ceremony
2. Shadowplay
3. A Means to an End
4. Passover
5. New Dawn Fades
6. Twenty Four Hours
7. Transmission
8. Disorder
9. Isolation
10. Decades
11. Digital
DVD 1
Joy Division – A Malcolm Whitehead Film – 2026 Edit
Comprising:
Rehearsal, 1979 and Bowdon Vale Youth Club, Altrincham 14th March, 1979
1. She’s Lost Control
2. Shadowplay
3. Leaders of Men
Something Else, BBC TV, 15 September 1979
1. Transmission
2. She’s Lost Control
Plan K, Brussels, 16 October 1979
Appears in Two Versions:
1 - Original 1979 Audio Version
1. Love Will Tear Us Apart
2. Wilderness
3. Disorder
4. Colony
5. Insight
6. Twenty Four Hours
7. New Dawn Fades
8. Transmission
9. Shadowplay
10. She’s Lost Control
11. Atrocity Exhibition
12. Interzone
2 - 2026 Reconstructed Audio Version (except Love Will Tear Us Apart) using audio from Les Bains Douches, Paris, December 1979 except Tracks 6, 11 and 12 From Paradiso, Amsterdam January 1980
1. Wilderness (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
2. Disorder (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
3. Colony (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
4. Insight (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
5. Twenty Four Hours (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
6. New Dawn Fades (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
7. Transmission (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
8. Shadowplay (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
9. She’s Lost Control (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
10. Atrocity Exhibition (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
11. Interzone (2026 Reconstructed Audio Version)
DVD 2
Apollo Theatre, Manchester
27 October 1979
1. Dead Souls
2. Wilderness
3. Colony
4. Autosuggestion
5. Love Will Tear Us Apart
6. Shadowplay
7. She’s Lost Control
8. Transmission
Apollo Theatre, Manchester
28 October 1979
1. Sound of Music
2. Shadowplay
3. Colony
4. Day of the Lords
5. Twenty Four Hours
6. Disorder
7. Walked in Line
8. I Remember Nothing
9. Transmission
What's the best vinyl pressing of Unknown Pleasures?
I've had the first UK pressings of both JD studio albums since they came out, and when my Unknown Pleasures (left) got a bit crackly in the 1990s I bought a more recent pressing (Spanish, right, white and black labels the other way round to my earlier record).
I'm not an audio snob, but that Spanish pressing feels and sounds thin.
I'd like to buy another vinyl copy, but there are now so many pressings that I'm lost. Which one is the best?
UPDATE: Based on a couple of recs on here, I got the 180G pressing from Amazon Germany, on sale for around €22. Thank you for the recommendations.
The only 4 records I can recall buying duplicates for are from Manchester and from the late 1970s (as am I). They are Unknown Pleasures, Another Music in a Different Kitchen (Buzzcocks), Real Life (Magazine), and Live at The Witch Trials (The Fall).
Just discovered Hookys '21 JD Orchestrated Album and I really love it, what are you all thoughts about it?
I just discovered that apparently Hooky produced a Joy Division Orchestrated Album in 2021, I really love it but also it feels so strange, in a right and really beautiful way. But what are your all thoughts on it? Did you knew it before?