a guy told me just because Gojo is the strongest that doesn't mean his attacks are stronger than everyone else's
he then said Love Beam, Granite Blast, Jacob's Ladder and freaking Maximum meteor was stronger than this ☠️
It's already obvious that she was fucked over tengen's plan, even Kenny acknowledges it. But in this scenario. It kinda proves that their whole plan banked on Kenny's domain being nullified.
And without any freedom for a flexible plan, even though yuki did have her own plans on using her domain. Her first and foremost priority was to weaken Kenny enough so that his domain would be weakened and or wouldn't be able to maintain.
And if that first hit was just part of the plan to "WEAR HIM DOWN" doesn't that prove that she could've dished out a much heavier attack than that?? Since her technique lowk gives her infinite mass w her density being the "limit"
What are y'alls thoughts?
What the titles say's Gojo get shrine and ten shadow and sukuna gets limitless
For the sake of the fight let's say sukuna can use limitless the same way a six eyes user can.
Round 1 : Meguna vs Gojo and sukuna is not allowed to use his true form
Round 2 : Meguna vs Gojo but sukuna is allowed to use his true form
Round 3 : Heian form vs Gojo
People love to say that Geto scales to Yuta and Rika at the same time but this is just wrong
In the fight he did against Rika and Yuta. He had playful cloud, a weapon which have a bigger amb than a blackflash (https://www.reddit.com/r/JujutsuPowerScaling/s/WxlzfwqmDm)
In the fight he striked Yuta's face (who didn't get the hang of reinforcement yet btw) and it barely bruised his face
Later on the fight when Yuta got a hold on reinforcement he outsped Geto (note his reinforcement is lower than his Shinjuku self) and he broke his sword, he landed a strike on geto's face that made him bleed quite heavily and deformed his face a bit
Even if you say it's a blackflash due to the anime adding it the point still stands because Geto have playful cloud
Note: the strike he did on yuta's face wasn't strong enough to send him flying like his punch
But he kept up pace with them
Congrats he have relative reaction speed to them and potentially slightly higher
Low-key he should be flamed if he can't predict a 16 year old movement as a 27 year old
He's stated he could have won if he had his curses
That is refering to the last beam clash they did, it doesn't translates whatsoever to his stats in any way form
TD;LR: no Geto doesn't scale to Rika and his raw stats is lower than Yuta who can barley control his reinforcement (according to some bums he's apparently top 3 with that performance)
Yuta> Geto in durability, speed, combat speed, and AP and it isn't close
Has Low end Relativity to Gojo, Keeps up with Mahoraga, Sukuna thinks she would actually be useful in a fight against Gojo which in JJK if you can't keep up you wouldn't even be put on the same Battlefield
Took Multiple Blue Amped Punches from Gojo, a BLACK FLASH BLUE PUNCH from Gojo and needed a Maximum Output 🔵 to be killed
She can Heal pretty much instantly, can probably fly and has Electrical Powers and probably Poison from great serpent
side note but y'all think she could beat the Anti Sukuna Squad? I think she could
He doesn’t take a single hit from Yuta or Rika the entire fight aside from one
He’s able to parry attacks from both of them with playful cloud which isn’t particularly impressive as playful cloud is provable a greater amp to striking power than a black flash
It is very impressive that he has the speed/skill to briefly 1v2 Rika and a no Rika reinforcement Yuta but Ryu does that against a stronger Yuta while damaged and fatigued and also wins the h2h part of the engagement
He hits pre Rika reinforcement Yuta twice to the head with playful cloud which again is a greater amp than a black flash and Yuta is completely conscious afterwards
After figuring out reinforcing himself with Rika’s CE Geto gets outsped by Yuta
Yuta lands the only hit landed on Geto throughout the entire fight and does more damage to Geto than two black flash level strikes from Geto did to Yuta the punch and exchange had such an effect on Geto
that he immediately popped ult
"The Zenin Clan head, found in critical condition, reports that after a hard fought battle, and heroically defeating 10 Special Grade Curses, the infamous Geto Suguru was forced to flee with his tail between his legs. So far, we've collected no evidence to support this claim, however due to Naobito's status as an alcoholic geriatric fart Clan head, we've assumed it to be true." - Toshihiro Kazatsuri, ''Higher Up'' of the Kyoto Branch.
I like Geto I really do he’s one of my favourite characters in the series and I’m currently working on a super post scaling his stats and speculating on his arsenal but God damn have I see some bad takes abt how strong he is
Nanami and Naobito couldn't break it, only Toji from Playful Cloud managed it. I also think the water shield is very fast, because why didn't Naobito avoid it and attack Dagon? In my opinion, the water shield was faster and protected him
I Wish You All A Nice Day
We see that both Sukuna and Yuji were completely surprised by Maki arriving here. We see Sukuna is facing dowh the stairs. I initially thought she snuck him from behind. But looking at the panel where WCS is being discussed and it very well could be Maki's POV. When you look at her actually cutting off his arm or the end pose she has her back leading down the stairs. Leading me to believe she's to Yuji's left just offscreen where Sukuna is looking. While yes he's fighting Yuji however I think at this point with his focus being locked via Black Flash or still not taking Yuji seriously it's quite impressive. Not to mention Sukuna having fours eyes and being at least a full foot taller is able to see over Yuji's head. Kind of a tiny detail but it's easy to miss when reading sometimes.
Hi there! I realized that I wasn't currently happy with the methods used to calculate the energy of Sukuna's furnace released in Shibuya and Shinjuku, so I wanted to propose an alternative approach and ask what other people thought.
Currently, Furnace (or Fuga) is modelled as a single thermobaric explosion, where the most commonly used method of calculating it's energy using the energy required to vaporize the surrounding area. However, this model holds a flaw within it.
When unleashed in Shibuya, Sukuna notes that he reduces his domain's range from it's maximum of 200 meters down to 140 meter in order to allow Megumi (who lies unconcious outside the domain's barrier) to survive. The resulting Fuga unleased on Mahoraga completely annihilates him, with the assumption that all pulverized matter was turned into fuel to allow the thermobaric explosion.
This calculation would produce a resulting explosion size much larger than the set domain radius of 140m, which would convincingly kill Megumi nearby. The solution I propose is the manipulation of domain barrier, where Sukuna in Shibuya manipulated the conditions of his domain's barrier in order to prevent any energy from escaping the radius.
When extending this assumption to the explosion present in Shinjuku (seen in the attached image), there is some limitations in the validity of the idea that Malevolent Shrine contains the entire energy of Fuga. It's clear some forms of energy is escaping past the 200m radius. However, the explosion area of Fuga is somewhat unnatural (in my eyes), with a much larger vertical profile than you would expect.
These two aspects lead to to the hypothesis that the energy Fuga can be contained by a variable value dependent on the domain conditions. I will use this in my calculations.
To quickly discuss Furnace, we know that it is a thermobaric explosion. When used in a domain, Furnace works through first allowing the constant dismantles to pulverize all matter in the surrounding area. This creates an enormous mass of dust, which by the JJK wiki is imbued 'with the same explosive cursed energy as Divine Flame'. This energy is prevented from escaping the domain's radius through altering the barrier conditions, essentially turning Malevolent Shrine into a large pressure cooker.
Once the dust particles of Malevolent Shrine are at their limit of energy, Sukuna releases his Devine Fire Arrow, which triggers a 'deflagration-to-detonation transition across these particles, generating instantaneous high temperatures, shockwaves, decompression and intense pressurization'.
As seen above, furnace is proportional to the mass of explosive material and the Specific Energy of dust imbued with 'explosive CE'. My goal in this section is to create a function for Energy that could be applied to every possible combination of variables.
Mass of Particles
The mass of explosive material can be set as a function of time and location. For Shibuya and Shinjuku (which takes place in high density urban sprawl in Tokyo), we will characterize the maximum amount of mass enclosed by Malevolent Shrine as C_max, the radius of the domain as R, the average height of buildings as H, the percentage of ground covered by buildings as f_area, and the average density of physical material within each building as p_build.
C_max = (πR************^(2)) × H × f_area × p_build.
Then, to find the mass of actually pulverized matter, we will create a half-life function of how long it is required to pulverize the entirety of C_max. This function will use the variables of time the domain was open (t), and time required to destroy half of the physical matter within the domain, or the Pulverization Half-Life (k). Therfore, the final mass of pulverized particles in the domain can be described as:
C(t) = C_max × (1-2^(-(t/k)))
For this equation, k is not set in stone. In Shibuya, the time required to destroy the building is a lot larger than the time required in Shinjuku. Therefore, we will define our value for k whenever calculating a feat.
Specific energy
The Cursed Energy imbued into the dust particles is difficult to quantify, so we will set an equation to explore different values of specific energy.
We know that the dust particles are charged by Sukuna's cursed energy. We will assume that this energy is the maximum amount of energy the particle can hold before it combusts. Therfore, each particle holds the energy:
E = m × H_c
This equation holds H_c, or the specific energy of the particle. We will define this variable as a set of possible values, which will allow us to find lowball and highball calculations.
H_c =
The Barrier Function
This part of the equation will calculate the effect of Malevolent Shrine's barrier conditions. We know that the domain is capable of containing partial or all of the explosion's energy. In shibuya, the explosion has no escapeage of energy, causing the energy to be constrained to a smaller space. We will quantify this through considering the effects of Blast Wave Reflection (W), where an explosion can increase the power of the explosion up to a factor of 3.
W = (1+2(1-β))
In this equation, β represents an arbitrary value, and can be thought of as the percent of energy that can escape the domain. When β = 0, no energy can escape the domain, and the resulting blast has an increased AP of x3. When β = 1, all energy can escape the domain, and there is no increase in AP.
E = (C_max × (1-2^(-(t/k)))) × H_c × (1+2(1-β))
Note I've converted the following calcs into tones of TNT equivalent.
Calculating Shibuya
C_max =
t,k = unknown, but given the rate of slashes and time of domain, we can assume that all matter in the domain was pulverized.
H_c = {25, 31, 50}
β = 0 (megumi remained unharmed, therefore no energy escaped)
Resulting E = 4.97 - 9.93 Megatons of TNT (Small City to City Level)
Calculating Shinjuku
C_max =
t = 99 seconds (this aspect is incredibly important, as it sets a limit to how long the domain has to pulverize matter. This may be related to the binding vow Sukuna made to open the domain, as he lost a large amount firepower in exchange for opening the domain)
k = unknow, however it was shown that the rate of slashes was much lower when compared to Shijuku. It will be assumed that 60% of the matter in the domain was pulverized, k will be set to 70
H_c = {25, 31, 50}
β = 0.25 (it is shown some form of energy is escaping. However, the main component of the explosion appears to be contained within Malevolent Shrine. I will assume 25% of energy escapes the barrier)
Resulting E = 5.07 - 10.1 Megatons of TNT (Small City to City Level)
This method can be used to calculate Sukuna's Furnace attack given any possibility of combinations. This suggests that this attack is most likely a City Level attack. The additional factor of considering barrier conditions can scale up the attack to as much as a factor of 3.
I suggest it's reasonable to assume the higher values of specific energy for this calculation. Cursed energy is imbued into the matter, which our model treats as the replacement for chemical bonds. It allows the city to undergo combustion, where normally city materials would be too unreactive to do so.
It's important to note that the value of specific energy can be held higher. Depending on the energy contained within sukuna's cursed energy, the upper bound of specific energy would be 142 MJ/kg, equivalent to hydrogen gas. Higher values would be unrealistic for what we view in the series, where lower values would prevent the deflagration-to-detonation transition.
I hope you enjoyed reading this yap fest! If anyone has any notes or questions, I'd love to answer them :D
The entire concept of TE aura is predicated on the idea that in chapter 213, page 12, the only thing that could be burning Sukuna is the aura radiating around Hana/Angel. Which if you just look at that page in a vacuum is totally understandable, but with the context of page 11, the theory becomes unsubstantiated as we see Hana/Angel set up an attack and aim it directly at Sukuna the page before. We even see that Hana/Angel has the trumpet she uses for her technique in her hand on page 11. That is what is burning Sukuna on page 12, not an alleged TE aura. Her aura is just a CE aura in the same way we’ve seen multiple characters in the series produce a CE aura.
It's even more insane that Freeza manage to survive even when he got hit by Gokus blast and the planet exploding enough to get medical treat meant insane endurance feat.