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Image 1 — [Serious] Is there a Naruto character or Ability that Bypasses Gojo's Infinity?
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[Serious] Is there a Naruto character or Ability that Bypasses Gojo's Infinity?

Curious to hear your opinion since as far as I know many of the Naruto abilities are ineffective against Gojo thanks to Infinity, Would there be a Naruto Naruto capable of bypassing through it?

Verse Equalization is allowed

u/Archenius — 5 days ago
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Blue is probably one of the most forgotten and downplayed attacks in the series

Toji was probably scared of blue at least a little, While he had a counter for infinity he still tired out Gojo due to not thinking he could take him by himself even though he knew infinity and blue was the only things Gojo had in his kit. (though he does have the i can handle red and blue statement later on so i can hear arguments out on that) At max output it one tapped Agito and at an average or low output it manged to make multiple special grades vomit when punched. It was also shown to be very good at destroying wood and concrete which is very useful in "Could Gojo destroy a city" discussions (All of the ones ive seen are "no he has nothing in his kit to do it" and "if he spams purple or uses unlimited hollow a bunch he could") anyway yeah bluescaling yipppeeee

u/Frequent_Clue_8842 — 5 days ago
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How cursed spirit manipulation and copy in Okkotsu hands might be one of the most dangerous combos

Now allow quickly explain why i think Yuta has CSM in first place, as we know Yuta made Rika ate Kenjaku brain and with that Geto Suguru skull, hence how he obtained CSM.

Now why i call Copy + CSM a dangerous combination , because in order for CSM to absorb a cursed spirit, they turn their body into a sphere which they swallow.

And now hear me out on this, what if when Yuta would swallow a special grade curse with CSM, not only would he get it under his control but also he would obtain the cursed technique for himself due to also meeting the conditions of copy ?.

2 in 1 deal ahh.

u/Ok-Opportunity8921 — 4 days ago

[Serious] (Re:Zero) Shaula gets Isekaid in the Jujutsu Kaisen world! Strongest jjk character that she can beat?

Fight takes place on a 100 mile Parking lot and both of them start at 100 meters from Each other, Both are willing to kill each other and verse equalization is enabled.

u/Archenius — 5 days ago

[Serious] (No infinity, no RCT) Gojo might just barely not be able to survive Tsar Bomba.

It's said that Gojo leaving his infinity on for the duration of three days was able to hurt his brain enough to make it turn off, before he used RCT to compensate.

You can take that given a few more days sustained injury would occur.

Surface area and bits Gojo uses per refresh:

You can calculate Gojo's surface area using any estimate for his surface area for a build with his height 6,3 (canon) from 80kg to 85kg (estimated):

Lowball: 2.01 m² (uses Fujimoto calculation at 80kg)
Highball: 2.15 m² (uses Takahira calculation at 85kg)

You can scale this by an infinity factor (just the distance between Gojo and infinity boundary), that should very miniscule like <0,1

S (Infinity) = S (Gojo) × (1 + I²)

Lowball: 2.01 m²
Highball: 2.1715 m²

Now Gojo has atomic level precision for what he can actually see, as stated multiple times in the manga. For him to detect where something is, he essentially divides it into atomic little squares. It doesn't really what atom we use, we can use anything from helium-4 to cesium-133

Helium-4: 9.61×10¯²² m²
Cesium-133: 8.8804×10¯²⁰ m²

Number of cells of information states Gojo has:

m² Infinity Spacial resolution
Lowball (to minimize cells) 2.01 8.8804×10¯²⁰
Highball (to maximize cells 2.1715 9.61×10¯²²

Cells = S (Infinity) / Spatial resolution

Lowball: 2.263411558×10¹⁹
Highball: 2.2596253902×10²¹

If Gojo had perfect compression (we'll get to this) then you can simply take the log2 of the cells, for him to know where a cell is everytime he refreshes. You can then scale this by some bit factor for Gojo to evaluate the particle under (mass, energy, etc.) this should be at least under 100, because bits are logs they aren't usually too much. (100 bits would be 2¹⁰⁰ possible states)

Bits per refresh = (bits to test if it's safe) log₂ Cells

Lowball: 2057.44424761 bits (Using 32 bits)
Highball: 8244.04853621 bits (Using 128 bits)

How many times he has to do it?

You can get the average flux (number of molecules that hit per square meter per sec), through this formula:

Collisions per second = Pressure √( Degrees of freedom / 6 m kB T)

Take Temperature 298.15 (Room temperature at Kelvin), and atmospheric pressure (101 325 Pa)

The particle in air with the highest mass is O₂ (5.3137250206×10¯²⁶ kg)

and using N₂ (4.649509393×10¯²⁶ kg) as they both make up 99% of air:

(Diatomic molecules have 5 degrees of freedom)

Temperature (°Κ) Mass (kg) Surface area (m²)
Lowball (to minimize collisions) 298.15 (25℃) 5.3137250206×10¯²⁶ 2.01
Highball (to maximize collisions) 293.15 (20℃) 4.649509393×10¯²⁶ 2.175

Collisions hitting Gojo per second = Flux × Pressure √( Degrees of freedom / 6 m kB T)

(Diatomic molecules have 5 degrees of freedom)

Lowball: 1.4376628123 ×10²⁸ collisions per second
Highball: 1.663842196 ×10²⁸ collisions per second

Gojo's bitrate

Gojo has to do 1.4-1.6 refreshes per second, multiplying this by the bits per each refresh:

Bitrate = Frequency of collision × Bit per refresh

Lowball: 2.9579110831 ×10³¹ bits/s
Highball:  1.371679582 ×10³² bits/s

Power and energy

Since information can't be destroyed, it will always generate heat for Gojo to erase a bit of information, i.e.: update information, you can use the Landauer principle to get the limit for the minimum wattage dissipated:

Power (in watts) ≥ Bitrate × kB T ln 2

Landauer limit (lowest power to be dissipated)

Lowball: 8.2981973077 ×10¹⁰ W
Highball: 3.9137783946 ×10¹¹ W

However unfortunately for Gojo, the human brain operates really close to the Landauer limit, only losing about 28% in compression (compared to computers which lose like 99.9998%), so the actual power dissipated is slightly higher, you can multiply the calculated launder limit to get the power to hurt Gojo's brain, to get the heat dissipated for each bit erased:

Power to hurt Gojo = 1.26 × Landauer limit

Lowball: 1.0455728608×10¹¹ W

Highball: 4.9313607772×10¹¹ W

Now obviously this completely dwarfs the power generated from a nuclear bomb, a nuclear bomb lasts about 10s

Even for little boy, it's only about a tenth of its power output

Little boy: 6.3 × 10¹³ / 10 = 6.3 × 10¹²

Now. This power was only able to hurt Gojo over a few days. The only problem is we don't know how much Gojo could theoretically survive really, but we do now is the difference in timeframe.

For early nuclear arsenal like little boy, he survives it easily. Even just taking that another 4th day would be enough to kill him, the total energy released from little boy is like nothing:

Energy = 4 × 86400 ×1.0455728608×10¹¹ = 3.6134998068 10¹⁶ J ≫ 6.3 × 10¹³ J

You still have to consider that your cells are more resistant to long term energy than short energy. The difference is massive when you're comparing multiple days to a few seconds.

You can reverse this formula to see how Gojo compares against the tsar bomba (2.1×10¹⁷ J):

Days = Energy /( 86400 × Power )

Lowball: 4.92877253436 days
Highball: 23.2461614752 days

This is the total days he could supposedly strain from using infinity before getting lethal injury. The range is pretty massive but doable depending on how much you think he improved from then in terms of durability.

However this ignores that the longer the days are, the better Gojo's natural human healing factor can take into place, and also the fact that Gojo can consciously reinforce his brain much better than a total dispersion throughout his body, means that something like a bomb is a lot harder to deal with than a strain over a few days.

I would say that Gojo couldn't survive a modern nuclear bomb, but could survive early nuclear just based of pure durability.

u/Helpful-Climate-3204 — 5 days ago

[Casual] Strongest character Kusakabe can beat with a dura neg sword?

So Kusakabe can use all of his abilities but on top of thjat he has a super cool dura neg sword. What's the strongest character he can realistically beat?

1.Strongest character he can beat with the SSK

Or

2.Strongest character he can beat with the executioner sword

(if you just think it's a cooler prompt)

u/EntertainmentFast522 — 14 days ago
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Teen Gojo(before he awakened) vs EOS yuji

Ive seen this debate so ima give my take. honestly im all for eos yuji his physical stats are all superior by far and he can bypass infinity with his domain expansion and yeah gojo can use an anti domain technique, but as weve seen through out the series a domain expansion always out lasts an anti domain technique so gojo eventually will get hit by the sure hit which gonna heavily impact every stats and he’ll prob lose control a bit of infinity making yuji able to finish him off or maybe the sure hit will straight one shot him

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u/Candid-Software7644 — 14 days ago

[Casual] who did more damage to maki?

Cuz some ppl be claiming that ogis bumass did more damage than Sukuna black flash because he used a sword. Idk but Sukuna black flash should still be more lethal than a sword because black flash got weird x2.5 multiplier in damage.

u/Popular_Business_367 — 14 days ago

[Serious] ITADEITY YUJI output mogs Sukuna to oblivion

Yuji doesn’t need any narrative bullshit.

The feats he’s already pulled off are enough.

They’re head and shoulders above Sukuna’s feats with Dismantle

Yuji's dismantle is ce output/efficiency feat

Ct Attack power = ce output/efficiency

Ce output, efficiency, control, pool = ce reinforcement

Ce reinforcement and body = stats

Yuji has the best base body in terms of physical stats, excluding HR users

Best output/efficiency in the verse along side with modulo Rika (prime Yuta output upscale) via kilometres wide slashes

His CE control is far superior to Sukuna’s because he can spawn Dismantles at a much greater distance than Sukuna; his Dismantles do not dissipate over kilometres and are themselves kilometres in size, which requires a colossal level of CE control, He also has the ability to detect a huge number of people within a large building, along with the precise coordinates of each one, whilst applying just enough poison to incapacitate them rather than kill them. Furthermore, have a 80–100% chance of hitting Black Flash, each of which further upgrades his CE control.

Yuji outperforms Sukuna in every category except ce pool

Let’s start with the simplest example

Yuji sliced a city block into cubes with a huge number of Dismantles without using any special moves; each Dismantle cuts through the special-grade cursed spirit Mahito like butter

Yuji is also capable of spawning Dismantles at a huge distance from himself, 50–100 metres away from himself (, Yuji can spawn a Dismantle right in front of your face at point-blank range whilst being a very long way away from you – something Sukuna cannot do, because if he could, he would have used this in Shinjuku, rather than launching Dismantles close to himself, causing them to weaken as they travelled towards his opponent

Let’s move on to Sukuna. Sukuna needs to use chant and specify the direction of Dismantle to cut through the large building and bring it crashing down onto Gojo,

Although weakened, Sukuna must use the Enma-ten seal to cut through the small stump remaining of the building, and then use the Enma-ten Seal to destroy part of the building, though not even completely. Even if you underestimate Sukuna’s output at that time to 1F level, multiply that attack by 20–40 times and it still wouldn’t come close to what Yuji demonstrated without any movement

The highest feat Sukuna has demonstrated with ‘Dismantle’ whilst standing still

Moving on to the 9 km wide and 50 m high ‘Dismantle’

The minimum height of 50 metres is based on the fact that the curses do not remain at a uniform height; the scans clearly show that they fly at different altitudes. The black dots that Maru and Yuji see in the distance are clusters of curses situated at varying heights; moreover, not all curses are capable of flying.

Many people say that this isn’t an AP feat because he xp farmed weak curses , which is utterly ridiculous.

This is because Dismantle loses power over distance and upon colliding with obstacles; as it cuts through each curse and travels each metre, Dismantle loses energy.

Let me give an analogy: if a bullet pierces 5 kilometres of polystyrene, then that bullet has colossal penetrating power, enough to pierce through several tanks, despite the fact that polystyrene has a low density.

Now let’s move on to size calculations

The shape of the explosion caused by the dust from the cursed spirits, which didn’t really spread out, can be approximated as a cylinder for convenience.

The diameter of the explosion is 9 km; the height, relative to the diameter, is approximately 15–20 km.

Let’s calculate the volume of smoke:

V = πr²h

V = 3.14 × 4.5² × 15

V ≈ 954 km³

As can be seen in the scan of the cursed spirits’ explosion, they generate around 30–50 times their own volume in dust during the first moments of the explosion

954/30 ≈ 32 km (volume of the cursed spirits)

To calculate the volume of a 4-2 grade cursed spirit, let’s use the volume of an elephant (3 m³) as a basis; this may be an overestimate, as a 4-2 grade cursed spirit is a ‘shotgun victim’, and a cursed spirit the size of an elephant is unlikely to be killed by a shotgun-level attack

32 km³/3 m³

32,000,000,000 m³/3 m³ =

= 6,400,000,000 (number of cursed spirits)

Although the number may vary from 300,000,000 if we assume that the volume of dust created by the cursed spirits is much greater and the percentage of dust in the air is lower

Let’s move on to the energy required to detonate a single curse

Generally, rank 4–2 curses are on a ‘pistol–shotgun’ level damage victims; however, attacks of this power do not detonate a curse instantly, to detonate a curse, the attack must be a massive overkill for the cursed spirit

Take Choso’s strike, for example: when he struck a grade 4-3 curse with full power attempting to hit the Kenjaku, and it didn’t explode on impact; instead, it began to disintegrate slowly

Therefore, the energy required to detonate a Grade 4–2 curse can be estimated at wall level (0.005 tonnes of TNT), even though Choso’s strikes will be even more powerful.

Calculating AP in tonnes of TNT:

300,000,000 × 0.005 = 1.5 megatons (small city-level AP)

Or

6,400,000,000 × 0.005 = 32 megatons (city-level AP)

However, it is worth bearing in mind that the AP and speed of that ‘Dismantle’ had its AoE very, very significantly weakened,

because the greater the attack range, the weaker the attack becomes in exchange.

Therefore, if Yuji decides to use a 2 m wide and 0.5 cm high Dismantle with the same output, the AP will be 45,000,000 times greater due to the colossal, titanic difference in size.

In that case, the AP will be

67.5 teratons (country-level AP)

OR

1.44 petatons (continental-level AP)

u/ggg-emperor — 14 days ago

I know this is debated already but who wins EOS Yuji VS Mahito

I mean Mahito has the domain arguments and Yuji doesnt have Sukuna to protect his soul anymore (Tho Yuji also has soul perception)

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u/Tomtheepicgod123 — 14 days ago

[Casual] If these were cursed techniques would they be within the top 5?

Ultimate Lifeform (Jojo's Bizzare Adventure)

Mera Mera Fruit (One Piece)

Respira (Bleach)

Full Counter (7 Deadly Sins)

u/Business-Foot7562 — 14 days ago