u/Icy-Adhesiveness773

Ranta might be the strongest Grade 1 to exist.

Maki has the ability to resist curses meaning her actual strength is multiplied upon that ability, people with similar strength to Maki won't be able to break out of Ranta's CT like Maki due to lacking a resistance to curses. Meaning every Grade 1 literally just get's stun-locked, with the special grade sorcerers, Gojo, Yuki, Naobito, Naoya, Geto, and Yuta having abilities to escape.

Have Jinichi and Ranta fight every Grade 1 they low diff.

u/Icy-Adhesiveness773 — 8 days ago

[Casual] What are some things that we, the reader, accepts as fact without textual evidence confirming it?

A bunch of things we accept as the truth despite not being stated:

  • Kenjaku possessing domain amplification, taught the disaster curses.
  • Kenjaku being the most knowledgeable Jujutsu Sorcerer in history.
  • Black Flash being based upon mentality and not purely luck. Can be proven with Narrative Evidence.
  • Eyes change shape in response to change in mentality or strength. Can be proven with patterns of Visual Evidence.
  • Awakenings granting stat buffs.
  • Hakari being unnaturally lucky. Can be proven with Analytical and Cultural Evidence.
  • Kenjaku’s domain or open domains in general are able to affect objects instead of just people.
  • Technique extinguishment aura has never been stated to exist.
  • Uzumaki having unlimited output. Can be proven with Paratextual Evidence.
  • Sukuna's massive strength stems from consuming his twin.
  • Special grade sorcerers can open multiple domains a day.
  • Hana’s Technique destroys evil, negative energy is evil, Hana jokes about it, Curses are naturally evil. Can be proven with Cultural Evidence.
  • A six eyes user can be born without limitless.
  • Destroying the gut prevents a RCT user from healing themselves.
  • Attacks placed on the last panel of a page is stronger than attacks placed on other panels. Stems from structural evidence.
  • Most of what people say about Yuji’s domain is pure speculation.
  • Many of the things we know about Tengan’s barrier are not mentioned at all, never been stated to make a zone around Japan to trap CE to create more sorcerers in Japan or to trap cursed spirits.

I'm definitely missing a ton of heavy hitting examples. This is because Gege has a wide range of tools to confirm things within a manga, visual evidence what you can see drawn such as Sukuna’s tattoos appearing on Yuji’s body to show he is being possessed, paratextual / metatextual evidence content outside of the main story like a Q&A statements, structural evidence for instance putting an attack on the last panel of a page to convey its strong with a cliff hanger, intertextual evidence would be references to other works or myths like Sukuna himself, narrative evidence what the story itself tells you, and cultural evidence what informs Gege’s choices. Not everything has to be textual evidence, most of the manga, damage people take from attacks and their facial reactions which is visual evidence, is how we scale.

People focus too much in textual evidence while ignoring the hypocrisy of this belief, to deny something obvious they'll ask if it's stated to avoid a conversation on it.

u/Icy-Adhesiveness773 — 9 days ago

Ranking All Special Grade Sorcerers.

Nobody knew Naobito's full speed by the way, even the speed he used against Dagon, while holding back, was unexpected by Nanami and Maki implying Jujutsu Society thought his speed was limited to far below his stacking speed. Not even Naobito's own brother knew about his full power.

Speed increases strength exponentially, getting twice as fast means you strike four times as hard, getting thrice as fast means you strike nine times as hard. If Jujutsu Society only knew about holding back unstacked Naobito's speed when assigning him a grade, something hundreds of times weaker than his full power, then use the logical conclusion from there...

  • If Naoya went from not dealing any damage with a single punch, to being able to shatter Maki's ribs fully, Naobito is far faster and has far higher reinforcement, then his logical strength should be far stronger than shattering Maki's ribs, a fighter on par with special grade sorcerers.

Furthermore he wasn't stacking against Dagon at all, since unstacked was just ragdolling him and took Dagon out of the fight immidaitely. It took Cursed Seal bullshit and using his domain teleport him away, because he knew he wouldn't get the sure-hit off if Naobito was closer, just to hold down Naobito. Then for Dagon to deal even a small amount of damage it took him to fully charge his reinforcement in his fist, use his entire body as momentum, striking Naobito off-guard right into the weak spot of the body, the head, which solidly puts Naobito far above domain amp Dagon in reinforcement without stacking.

u/Icy-Adhesiveness773 — 9 days ago

Yes Naobito is top 3 very easily, yall are sleeping on him.

Hakari lumps in Maki with the statement of non-Gojo-level sorcerers along with Yuta and himself, furthermore Maki states that if they lose Yuta then only some of their insurance would be lost meaning that Hakari and Maki are equally as important insurance for the battle but losing Yuta means a major asset of their plan would fumble.

Maki's awakening was built off seeing what Shibuya Toji saw, how he preformed, and equaling his strength. She constantly asked what Toji saw that she couldn't, how she could act like him and have his mentality, and how to be like him and not everyone else. At the end of the arc she becomes a "demonic fighter equal to Toji Zen'in" but this was referring to Shibuya Toji.

Necromancy has to employ techniques to boost it's effectiveness, like say a name or think of the person at their strongest, this implies that it doesn't bring them back at the full power because they are attempting to regain power. If it brought them back at their peaks, then that wouldn't matter. Therefore Shibuya Toji wasn't at his prime. To say Toji was at his full power, is to say there is no difference in between a Grade 4 and a Special Grade both using Necromancy, which would be absurd. The quality of the caster and the vessel are the inputs, there's a difference between eating ashes and the full body for the technique, the technique would naturally undershoot the peak of the person they are bringing back which is why they are attempting to stack extra output.

Maki's full power after Curse Naoya's fight was limited to a necromancy nerfed Toji, despite this these two are still on par with Yuta and Hakari as stated.

Toji was far stronger during Heavenly Inventory fighting Gojo, but still it wasn't his full Prime power it was explicitly stated in a volume extra that he was not at his full power during that fight. He was denying his own senses and listening to his ego, which is the reason why he died, and senses are main piece of a heavenly restriction user's power. Meaning Toji getting rid of them was nerfing his strength just like how Maki was nerfing her swinging power, it's the same concept on why a boxer can bring out more power than a normal person with the same body type. And when it's stated he was gaining a hang of it again, that wasn't instant, the statement that he got them back does not mean he got them all back at once or that he was at full power. Prime Toji being stated to be stronger than Awakened Gojo and Geto in the fanbook further confirms this fact, the same Gojo that easily killed Toji.

Despite not being at full power, Heavenly Inventory Toji was able to block Red while Kenjaku was going to be blitzed by it if Sukuna didn't save him. Easily placing Toji above Kenjaku in stats. These red's are the same speed for the same reason the speed of sound is constant, negative space doesn't change, only the size of that negative space does.

Prime Toji is stated to have been the strongest sorcerer killer, therefore scales above Kenjaku which makes sense from Heavenly Inventory Toji, a far weaker version of Toji, already being massively above him in speed.

Unstacked Naobito's punches deal larger amounts of damage, being able to crush Dagon's skull, than Toji who when striking the same or striking the body of Dagon deals far less damage. Although this is Necromancy nerfed Toji, this easily fits Unstacked Naobito to near Prime Toji in damage. With stacking being able to multiply Naobito's speed and strength by 5 to 10 times higher. A prime Toji having ISOH which deactivates techniques like PS is stated to be Naobito's equal in strength.

Naobito = Prime Toji

Prime Toji > Heavenly Inventory Toji

Heavenly Inventory Toji > Necromancy Toji

Necromancy Toji = Awakened Maki

Awakened Maki = Yuta = Hakari

Conclusion? Naobito wipes out the Heavy Hitters and is top 3.

u/Icy-Adhesiveness773 — 13 days ago

Assume they all have awakened a domain expansion and they are at 120% of their full potential. Can any of them creatively use their techniques at 120% in tandem with their domains to beat Yuki?

I think Mei-Mei, Choso, and Naobito has high chances of winning just with their techniques being at 120% due to how busted they are.

u/Icy-Adhesiveness773 — 17 days ago

"Okarun wasn't reciprocating", can you guy's just not see that his teeth started closed and by the end of the page his mouth was open in the same exact position Aira's was? They are clearly drawn the same exact way. Furthermore his head is tilting, it's more of a straight linear jawline on the bottom while on the middle and top it's curved.

Either Okarun is reciprocating by opening his mouth in the same exact way Aira is planning to kiss him and by tilting his head, or Tatsu drew these things for literally no reason but the troll the readers.

The Momo we knew is gone, you need to accept that. I understand that's what the manga was setting up, but all good stories involve a plot twist. I can relate as a Vamola x Okarun fan, it seems logical to want to hold onto Momo x Okarun. But we need to understand that Aira has always been loyal and a better partner for him. cope.

u/Icy-Adhesiveness773 — 18 days ago
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Most people believe that Naoya stacks up to max speed and lands a singular devastating blow, but this is a misrepresentation of Naoya's fighting style. Once he is at Mach 1, due to the advantage of being able to ignore the laws of physics and conserve his momentum, he lands blow after blow. The same blows that would "punch through" Maki like a hole puncher on paper.

This is why Maki was "planning to receive the blunt of [Naoya's] attack and stop [him] from moving even if it broke [her] ribs" because freeze framing Naoya stopping from continuously slamming her was a worthwhile sacrifice even if it prevents her from defending from the attack properly.

Now this is where people stop themselves from making the final connection. If a singular punch from Naoya is stated to be able to punch through Maki to the point it'll shatter her ribs and he is able to conserve that level of speed, what would happen to an opponent that Naoya is landing 24 strikes per second on including kicks which massively increases his AP? It will be like throwing an orange into a blender, Naoya is the blender literally ripping flesh open continuously, while the sorcerer he is fighting is an orange.

u/Icy-Adhesiveness773 — 15 days ago

Black flash is CE applied extremely precisely, Dabura doesn't need to be precise because he has the speed required to do it on command. One punch man clip for reference how long a light speed fighter takes to move, far below the amount of time it takes for a black flash.

u/Icy-Adhesiveness773 — 19 days ago

When you have a special grade and a few grade 1's fighting Maki, the grade 1's are going to slow down Naoya because he has to worry about not killing them on accident, he destroyed a freaking mountain not even going full speed. At the very least they are going to be destroyed similarly to the mountain or say "Ranta, are you good getting a bit close? We're going to have to bet on him."

If Naoya at Mach 1 could shatter Maki's entire rib-cage, as stated, imagine what would happen if he ran near the grade 1's, they would be vaporized! Grade 1's and a special grade simply cannot fight together.

u/Icy-Adhesiveness773 — 21 days ago

Despite being injured to his internal organs and had his head busted open, his mf Ryu instantly knocked out Rika, forcing Yuta to puke up blood with a single strike.

If he was moving like this fully healed, nobody besides Sukuna and Gojo surviving ts.

u/Icy-Adhesiveness773 — 22 days ago