Since Naobito is more durable than Stacked Curse Naoya, he must also be faster than Stacked Curse Naoya. Stacked Naoya is stated to reach Mach 3, so Naobito > Mach 3 in speed. Because Naobito outperformed Domain-amped Dagon and scales above stacked Naoya in both speed and durability, he is placed in the same tier as the heavy hitters.

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Before I explain, lemme give credits to whom this scaling originated from and a few of these images. This was just a few ideas me and u/Glad_Caterpillar4771 bounced off at each other a few months ago, go follow his reddit he's insanely good at scaling JJK.

This post is used to connect Dagon to Hanami and Jogo allowing us to upscale both Naobito and Shibuya Toji.

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>The main trio of disaster curses are all on par with each other, they've been stated as a collective group when speaking about fighting along with the fact they all come from secondary main fears of humanity relating to nature, therefore making no logical sense for them to all be drastically different in strength. Gege when wanting “to show off Naobito’s character” wanted “[a] battle with a strong opponent that rivaled Jogo and Hanami” (Gege, Q&A). Although character statements don’t disprove author statements due to being falsifiable, people often note that Nanami called Jogo “on another level” to claim that Jogo is far stronger. But this is incorrect because sorcerers cannot tell combat abilities until they see it, Yuta has an aura similar to “Gojo” but is described as “something creepier” we know they aren’t close in strength, Hanami is “a lot more creepy than [Jogo]”, and Jogo states “Sukuna’s strength is different than Satoru Gojo’s” despite him being five fingers lower than Gojo at this time. Cursed Energy stems from negative emotions, the more reserves you have the more of a negative signal you give off which is why Yuta and Sukuna is insanely creepy to sense. It is a common belief that reserves correlates with power, such as Hanami deciding Todo's power based off his Cursed Energy reserves.

>Sorcerers without being able to see a fighter's manipulation of Cursed Energy will never be able to determine the strength of an opponent often leading to statements we can confirm as incorrect such as the Dagon statement which is speaking about Cursed Energy reserves rather than actual battle power. Gege confirms the opposite of which Nanami states.

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>Dagon is able to react to one armed Naobito extremely well, being able to dodge an off-guard punch rush and block a kick, all while prior to this moment he had believed Naobito had died and wasn't even looking his direction, focusing on an opponent engaging in a domain clash. Conversely Jogo while completely looking at a far more drained Naobito, setting the tempo by blitzing the other sorcerers, can barely react to Naobito blitzing past him. One counter argument you'll hear is that Jogo was off-guard, but that must equally apply to Dagon who wasn't even looking at Naobito before hand and believed he had died. Dagon and Jogo shows equal stats in speed here, if not Dagon proving faster.

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>Maki when twirling around playful cloud in the air to build up speed slams it into Hanami and Dagon in two separate instances causes a large portion of their arms to be ripped out, both of these instances being blocked. It causes the same exact reaction of being blown away, with equally large damages. Along with the fact that they both reacted to maki the same exact way. Showing relative durability and speed between Hanami and Dagon. This is Gege using the same exact character, with the same exact weapon, drawing the same exact results between these two characters he previously called equivalent, revealing that Gege specifically wanted them to be equals in durability.

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>While Jogo and Hanami were standing side to side, they rushed forward through civilians, reaching Gojo at the same time striking his infinity at once. After Gojo rushes away their punches landed on the ground at the same time, proving the speed behind their punches were completely equal once Gojo removed himself from the equation. Directly in the next panel they react at once, something instinctual that they cannot control.

>Gojo needed Hanami to be weakened before Jogo could actually start outputting more DA implying they had equal reinforcement prior to that moment.

>Jogo himself states that Gojo could've killed him instantly, which is why he required blending in with the crowd and throwing the civilians at Gojo to prevent him from being hunted down in the same way Hanami was implying that he would be blitzed in close quarters.

>Combined with the statement of Mahito implying that Jogo wouldn't be able to avoid the same blows that Hanami wasn't able, implying they were completely relative.

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>If Naobito "hadn't used his cursed technique" to freeze frame Dagon before striking Maki "would've been killed." While Hanami on a similar opponent struck them three times, resulting with them being near death with questions on if he was "still alive," meaning generously, Hanami is required to use multiple punches to match up to a single strike from Dagon. While when Hanami actually strikes the same opponent Dagon would've instantly killed, in the same exact situation using a quick jab, Maki is able to endure it with just a bruise. She doesn't even take near fatal damage. Revealing that Dagon's striking power is massively higher than Hanami's.

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>Both Hanami and Dagon has the same reaction's to Maki when she attacks them, with Dagon having more consistent off-guard close ranged reactions while Hanami having more on-guard reactions displaying Dagon having an advantage, but overall they are relative reaction speed and stats. Overall Dagon has higher stats due to being able to blitz around Maki.

Kenjaku and Uraume's last known location when the Culling Games started was Tokyo, Japan, specifically in Shibuya. Then Kenjaku went to Kyoto, Japan, to take over the Kamo clan. Later both Uraume and Kenjaku met up to travel to the Oval Office in Washington, D.C, United States, finishing their travels in Tokyo, Japan, specifically in the Zenin Clan Headquarters to find a perfect place for the bath for Sukuna. Only until Sukuna changed vessels and needed help did Kenjaku along with Uraume enter the barrier to Colony No. 1.

Because there was no formal rule allowing entry and exit of barriers, this long travel of Shibuya, Kyoto, Washington, and Tokyo would be impossible unless they weren't players in the Culling Games. Uraume was incarnated outside of the Culling Games unlike every other incarnated sorcerer excluding Sukuna.

There is a glaring problem why Gege didn't state Ryu had the highest output in history if the strongest Heian Era sorcerers we know about didn't surpass him, was Gege hinting at a random Chinese sorcerer?

I believe it makes sense, the physical parts of their body is around the same as the real life animal unless they are exaggerated like the toads and snake.

My belief is that the wolves look like actual wolves and are the size of wolves, their physical stats should be a wolf with Megumi's reinforcement. The elephant has the physicals of an elephant with the reinforcement of Megumi. Piercing Ox has the physicals of an actual ox with the reinforcement of Megumi. Therefore the wolf and tiger should be twice as fast as the user of the technique, the ox is like in between twice as fast as a human.

Let me know what you think.

All I can gather from this is that Kenjaku can survive attacks that would dismember first grades with relatively non-fatal damages. He is narratively implied to take damage from blood manipulation's supernova with even revealing his hand when facing many of them at once, Choso's power punches are implied to deal damage while his palm strike was able to bust Kenjaku's lip, and he is implied to die to a Piercing Blood straight to the skull. Along with taking physical damage from Takaba who had considerably weaker physicals than Maki before the time-skip.

This is easier if you just scale Speed = Durability.

Uraume lacks the ability to sense the amount of Cursed Energy Sukuna and Gojo can output over large distances, Kenjaku personally requires having curses at the edge of colonies to sense Yuta that has half of Sukuna's CE and even confirms that reserves works as a beacon. There would be no way in hell that they would be able to pin point a 10% Sukuna over cities if they had problems sensing calamity level amounts of Cursed Energy.

jiji x momo and aira x okarun will literally be the final pairing of the series, you guy's don't know themes and such

AP (Attack Potency) measures the amount of damage an attack can inflict:

• Uraume is seen casually shattering Jackpot Hakari's limbs.
• Uraume is seen casually impaling Jackpot Hakari straight through the torso.
• Ryu's large blasts cause little to no damage over Yuta's entire body, some charring.
• Ryu's condensed discharge can cause fatal internal organ damage to Yuta.
• Ryu's close range and condensed granite blast cause blackening on Yuta's hand and causing a few finger tips to be burnt off, also known as a third degree burn.
• Ryu's condensed blasts has also been seen to be able to be palmed by Yuta.
• Yuki's maximum charge and full momentum punch snaps a singular arm of Kenjaku, the other to be dangling by flesh, and causes Kenjaku to spit up blood with a massive bruise.
• Yuki's regular punches causes massive bruises on Kenjaku's head.

Uraume can shatter entire limbs with a singular quick charge attack, compare that to Yuki who can only snap the bone in a singular area and disconnect an arm in a singular area it proves a more impressive feat. Yuki's is localized, Uraume's is global. Furthermore that was Yuki's strongest type of punch, this isn't even nearing Uraume's strongest type of Frost Calm just a quick charge one. While Ryu cannot even compare to these two, his best feat is causing a third degree burn over an entire hand.

No reason why Uraume would be scaling three tiers below Ryu when his best feat is far below, or why Uraume would be scaling seven tiers below Yuki when she has far better feats with her weaker attacks. Furthermore why the hell would Kashimo's Lightning Blasts be scaled below Yuki when they have the same exact feats of just removing a small section of flesh? Yuki is not punching with Kashimo Lightning Strikes every single punch, only her absolute strongest types of punch is scratching them.

Durability is the property which guarantees the ability to withstand a certain amount of force:

• Kashimo spits up large amounts of blood from Hakari punching him in the head and following it up with a kick.
• Kashimo spits up blood from repeat quick charge punches from Hakari.
• Kashimo gets bruises from simple kick from Hakari.
• Hakari spits up blood and is bruised from chops along with kicks from Kashimo.
• Hakari's double kick shatters an entire wall of a shipping container while both Kashimo and his punches only causes small dents, it's his strongest type of attack by far.
• Uraume takes no noticeable damage from having her head slammed through a building and a double kick straight to the head while off-guard.

At the very least Uraume scales far above both Hakari and Kashimo in terms of durability just from comparing each other.

• Ryu perfectly tanks Yuta's elbows and punches while he blocks.
• Later in the fight an injured Ryu starts to be bruised by Yuta's punches and slaps.
• Ryu spits up blood from Rika's punch.

Even if you scale Rika massively above Yuta in terms of stats, a double kick is still reaching those levels of power from Hakari just from how massively above his kick is compared to his punch. Dimensionally Ryu and Uraume have very similar durability from the fact they can withstand Heavy Hitter tier blows without being damaged, if you assume that being injured is a similar debuff to being off-guard then Uraume scales above along with Uraume scaling above in general due to Rika's punch.

No reason why Uraume would be scaling a tier below Hakari and two tiers below Kashimo when she is massively above them both, no reason why she would scale nine tiers below Ryu when both of them dimensionally have similar durability along with Uraume having better feats.

Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time.

Speed wise, Hakari and Uraume shouldn't be scaled six to four tiers below Yuta.

• Uro can block right around the time the sound of a word can reach her head, leaving her with near Mach 1 level reactions.
• Uraume can position herself to block Piercing Blood before it reaches her, while far closer than Uro was to Yuta.
• Yuta states "even Sukuna leaves an opening when encountering a cursed technique for the first time."
• Uro has massive amounts of experience with Cursed Speech, Kenjaku has massive amounts of experience with Piercing Blood, Uraume just experienced it for the first time after hearing legends about it.
• Despite having massive amounts of experience Kenjaku is still unable to jump away or even have any of his feet leave the ground while attempting to dodge this Piercing Blood, Uraume was the only one who reacted on time. While in the manga he still had a foot on the ground after Uruame had been blocking for a while.
• Kenjaku can casually block a Mach 2-3 bullet while off-guard.
• Kenjaku can dodge a quick charge Piercing Blood, nearing the minimum of Mach 1.
• Piercing Bloods vary based off compression. "The more pressure from Convergence, the greater the speed and piercing power of Piercing Blood becomes in return."
  • Uraume's was glowing red, making compression sounds (literally what the onomatopoeia means revealing Gege searched up this specifically to emphasize it's compression), steaming, and leaving physical strain on Choso's hands. All of these absent from a normal Piercing Blood.
• Uraume was blocking a Piercing Blood dimensionally faster than multiple Machs when accounting for Kenjaku's reaction and the fact it appears to be massively stronger than the average Piercing Blood in compression, while off-guard experiencing it for the first time.

No reason why Uraume would be scaling four tiers below Yuta when he went equal with Uro, a time skip isn't going to change that, nor should Hakari scale a tier below Ryu. At the very least you could argue Ryu is equal to Kashimo based off Kenjaku's statements, but that still makes it no sense for Hakari to scale a tier below with him having feats that puts him blatantly above Kashimo.

Output is the ejection of Cursed Energy, often denotated with explosiveness.

• Uraume shoots out Cursed Energy Blasts imbued with the trait of being supercooled.
• Ryu shoots out Cursed Energy Blasts.
• Ryu has an extremely high output because he seems near instantaneous compared to Yuta.
• Uraume has extremely quick charge times compared to Hakari and Maki.
  • Her Max Output Frost Calm generates enough Cursed Energy to create wind channels, seen waving Maki's cape, and through onomatopoeia.
• Uraume can instantaneously charge up the Cursed Energy within her Max Output Frost Calm through her Iceball.
  • Uraume's Iceball generates enough Cursed Energy to create wind channels, seen waving Hakari's cape, and through onomatopoeia.

No possible reasons why Uraume scales 11 tiers below Ryu in output and 2 tiers below in efficiency, it dimensionally doesn't work unless Uraume has relative output and higher efficiency or mid output and far higher efficiency. These two stats has to balance each other output.

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AP: Yorozu, Kenjaku, and Maki scale above everyone due to the fact that their strongest abilities have no limit. Aside from those characters and the two strongest Uraume should scale above everyone in terms of AP, Kashimo should be bumped up a tier.

Durability: Uraume should realistically be scaled along with or above Ryu in terms of durability just from the fact the both massively eclipses the Heavy Hitters in durability, it makes no sense for her to scale below Kashimo when she takes massively stronger types of attacks with less damage.

Speed: Just bump up Uraume and Hakari to where they rightfully belong.

CE Output / Efficiency: Makes absolutely no sense for Uraume to be scaled the last when her attacks are far more near instantaneous than most characters on this list. People forget her main ability is just blasting out pure supercooled Cursed Energy.

It's a completely different state of mind and both times Gojo entered this state of mind his stats completely changes for the better massively. Cursed Energy Manipulation depends on the intent meaning it makes complete sense for this to be the stat that increases.

Naoya had only lost because he believed he had already killed off Maki, allowing himself ample time to sit around and think. Once slashed, instead of freeing himself, he instead believed he had placed Maki in checkmate, transforming his body in a direction that would normally allow himself to be bisected.

Similarly, Toji had lost against Gojo because he believed he could handle everything Gojo had inside his kit. Despite his senses telling him the uneasiness of fighting Gojo he denied them over a petty pride.

By the same token, Gojo entered a high, while charging up Hollow Purple he had only a singular eye illuminated looking at Mahoraga while his other eye was in complete darkness symbolizing how he had been focusing completely on Mahoraga while giving a blind eye to Sukuna. Having the belief that Sukuna could not lead to his death, he did not expect the next attack.

All three of these characters had lost only because of their ego revolving around this fight, an intentional choice by Gege to confirm Naoya's goal of standing along with them.

Prime Toji = Awakened Gojo = Awakened Third Form Naoya

Looking at the sizes of Megumi's and Sukuna's souls, Megumi's is only slightly less than half as large so around 10 fingers. But this is also Megumi at his lowest mentally, meaning massively nerfed. We know that Toji thought Megumi was stronger than a Jogo who had the reserves nearing 10 fingers Sukuna but also stronger than 15 fingers Sukuna when he was awakened, because Toji goes after the strongest, Megumi surpasses them both in reserves and reinforcement. Gojo said that Megumi already had the potential to be on Gojo's level, all he needed was the cursed energy manipulation meaning his reserves already matched the strongest tier.

Before you bring up 16 finger Sukuna "blitzing" Megumi, that's false, he was surprised and attempting to summon Mahoraga. He was in no shape to react and was extremely shocked, anyone at this moment would have slow reactions. But despite this nerf we see Megumi almost able to keep up with Sukuna physically by putting his hands up to prevent Sukuna meaning they were at least low relative, consistent with him being nerfed here and at least places him relative to 16 finger Sukuna.

Also to bear adaptation you must have Mahoraga along with the fact Mahoraga was stated to be Megumi's, these reveals that Megumi must've unlocked Mahoraga thanks to Sukuna unlocking it because their technique works based off a shared set of Shikigami with differences in the losses of the technique. Think of it like experiencing a movie, Sukuna buys a movie (unlocks mahoraga), when he watches the movie he cannot have that same experience again (mahoraga being obliterated), but Megumi can still watch that movie. That movie doesn't just magically disappear. Confirmed in Modulo where we know the students reached the strongest tiers of strength but Megumi never unlocked Mahoraga in a ritual himself, revealing that never needed to unlock it because Sukuna did.

So not only is Megumi scaling to at least 16 fingers Sukuna, but he has Mahoraga and the other Shikigami unlocked. This is how Gege intended you to scale Megumi.

I would ask if revealing one's hands binding vows works on transformation techniques because it would reveal if you could get more cursed energy than you put in therefore being some sort of duping technique, or if really thin strands of cursed energy would be able to slash through anyone because it should theoretically work like perfect sphere having insanely high pressure and why Gojo never attempted this with his insanely high CE manipulation.

We see it twice when Hakari jumps down from the sky to descend on Kashimo with Lightning Speed and when Hakari jumps through the air to clash fists with Kashimo. This was already known because of the same Kashimo example and Hakari forcing himself downwards with enough speed to slam Uraume through a house.

Hana and Megumi both have soul awareness for the same reason Yuji does, they both co-existed in the body of two sorcerers therefore was forced to observe the boundaries of both of the souls. Angel also was required to see the soul to pull off her type of incarnation.

Tengen is an authoritative speaker on the soul and they have to merge with vessels, she existed for basically ever.

Arguments can be made for Naobito due to his ability to determine Toji's soul was brought back in a resurrection.

Chapter 20:

>Yuji: Is it okay to reveal all that?
Nanami: There are techniques that aren't affected if revealed to certain enemies. There's also the strategy of misleading by revealing. There is merit to revealing one's hand and the rules it initiates. You can make your technique even more effective.

Chapter 47:

>Hanami: The bud I planted in you loves cursed energy. The more Jujutsu you use, the deeper into you it will grow.
Megumi: How nice of you to explain! You're planning on killing me anyway, right?
Hanami: I hear it's more effective once explained.

Chapter 115:

>Sukuna: Oh, that's right. I thought you'd know about this... ...but I suppose... ...a cursed spirit wouldn't. Don't worry. I won't cheat by revealing my cursed technique.

Chapter 73:

>Toji: I could have started with the star plasma vessel. but it's risky to reveal myself to the six eyes.
Geto: Shut up! It's heavenly restriction, right?! Like us, revealing certain infornmation can actually give you an advantage. I get that. That's not what I want to know. How did you know about the entrance into the tombs? We made sure to not leave any residuals behind.
Toji: Humans leave behind more than just cursed energy, remember? Oder and footprints, for example. My five senses are sharp thanks to my lack of cursed energy.

Chapter 176:

>Uro: My cursed technique threats the sky as a surface.
Yuta (internally): She's disclosing her cursed technique!
Uro: Like this!

Chapter 205:

>Yuki: Scared to get near an unknown technique? Then I'll fill you in. It's mass.

Just in case you want to read a few of these fights to determine the increase you believe revealing one's hand actually creates in a fight or generally just looking for the density of moments this concept is brought up to show that Gege doesn't just forget this or not includes it.

Using someone's reserves as an indicator of strength means:

• Yuta > Gojo
• Hanami > Jogo
• 15F Sukuna > Gojo