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I've understood what's the difference between dialect an language

I've been pondering what's the the "border" between a dialect and a language, and I've just woken up and immediately realized that "every single language that has at least 1 dialect is Ambrela Term"

There is no single German, Chinese, Arabic, English Russian, Uzbek etc languages. All they cover a bunch of dialects.

I heard once a phrase "language is a dialect with army".

For example Uzbek language, before USSR there was no single Uzbek language, just a bunch of different languages. When soviets came there, they chose a random one of them, and called it O'zbek tili, ane suddenly others become dialects

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u/Livid-Race9137 — 2 days ago
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Balkan history of the Italian Pindus Vlach language of Epirus Greece. #romania #greece #metsovo #albania #northmacedonia

The core historical and linguistic reality is that both languages do share a common root, but that root is Vulgar Latin—specifically the Balkan dialect of Latin spoken during the Roman Empire.

Confusion arises when "common root" is mistaken for "direct descent from one to the other."

  • They descended from the same root (Latin): Just as Italian, Spanish, and French all share Vulgar Latin as their parent root, so do Romanian and Pindus Vlachika (Aromanian).
  • Neither language created the other: Pindus Vlachika did not evolve from Romanian, and Romanian did not evolve from Vlachika. They are sister branches that split from the same Balkan Latin tree around the 6th to 10th centuries AD.
  • Independent local histories: Metsovo Vlachs developed locally in the southern Balkans under Greek, Byzantine, and Venetian trade influences. Romanians developed north of the Danube under heavy Slavic and trans-Danubian influences.

Metsovo Vlachs are correct that their language did not come from Romania, but academically, both tongues share the exact same ancient Roman Latin parent.

u/Physical-Earth9454 — 2 days ago
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Practical Zapotec language class for beginners: variations, pronunciation and verb conjugations

This video is a practical Zapotec language class designed for beginners, focusing on conversational fluency and the cultural nuances of the language in Oaxaca, Mexico. Key topics covered include:

* Daily Vocabulary: Learning how to express physical sensations, such as “I am cold” (ruwëaga), and everyday actions like “to sew”.
* Pronouns and Grammar: A breakdown of personal pronouns and their variations within community contexts.
* Numbers: A step-by-step pronunciation guide for counting from 0 to 20, including specific dialectal variations, such as those found in Talea de Castro.
* Verb Conjugation: Interactive exercises focused on common verbs like “to eat” and “to dress,” highlighting how to properly use verb endings to match personal pronouns.
* Cultural Insights: Tips on Zapotec phonetics, such as how to properly ask questions without using the typical intonation patterns found in Spanish.

The session emphasizes that Zapotec is a living language with regional variations, and the primary goal is effective communication within the community.

Video Overview:

This interactive Zapotec language class focuses on practical dialogue, regional variations, numerical counting, unique pronunciation dynamics, and detailed verb conjugations.

Key Highlights:

* Everyday Vocabulary & Phrases:

* The instructor and students begin with practical daily expressions, such as stating “I am cold” (ruwëaga) or referring to embroidery/sewing activities (rigiaa lari).
* Students take turns practicing traditional greetings and conversational phrases.

* Personal Pronouns & Regional Dialects:

* The group reviews personal pronouns (neda, lii, lee, lanu, labe, etc.).
* The teacher explains dialectal variations, such as adding -ni (e.g., neto ni), noting that ni individually means “here” (aquí).

* Numbers & Counting:
* Students practice counting sequentially from 0 through 20 and higher numbers.
* The instructor addresses community-specific variations (such as in Talea de Castro where initial vowel sounds like u- might be omitted), reassuring students that variations are natural and mutually intelligible.

* Pronunciation & Tone Rules:
* Affirmations: The native Zapotec term for “yes” is à, though ajá is widely understood due to Spanish contact.
* Question Intonation: Unlike Spanish, Zapotec does not rely on a rising vocal pitch at the end of a sentence to signal a question.

* Grammar & Verb Conjugation:
* The lesson covers verb prefixes, flexible synonym forms (be vs. bi), and optional phonetic variations.
* Students drill conjugations for verbs like “to eat” (gagu / ragu / gudagu) across past, present, and future tense forms.

Practical Zapotec language class for beginners: variations, pronunciation and verb conjugations

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u/benixidza — 4 days ago
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I need some pragmatics’ sources for my thesis

A big «hello» to my favourite linguistic community! I am about to write my thesis on pragmatics and I am in desperate need for help. The topic sounds like «Tactics of consolation in a video discourse based on the material from streams»
And there I have two requests:

  1. Could you recommend me any bibliography connected with the basis of pragmatics (it might be also some links, articles, literally everything) and with the topic of my thesis, if you know something suitable enough.
    ‘Cause my supervisor didn’t give me any details and sources to scrutinise during my summer vacation when i have time for that and WANT to explore this field of science (I have no against it, he’s a sweet jerk, love him, but i’am dying to hit the books haha)

2)Do you know any streamers, whose videos i can use as a foundation for my work?

I would be SO grateful, if you help me to find something useful and compelling. Thanks in advance!

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u/darken_ember — 3 days ago
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Racist rock

Someone placed this rock on my yard, by a holly tree. The blurred word is the “N-word” that I have no right to use or post.

I would really appreciate anyone telling me what this means. Does the statement or symbol have meaning.

This is my very first Reddit post. So, please be nice.

u/cat_cat_cat_cat — 5 days ago
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LENGUA ZAPOTECA: Evolución y Enseñanza desde la Época Prehispánica ¿Cómo se Aprende el Zapoteco? 🌟

Este video es una conferencia impartida por el maestro Rayo Cruz donde ofrece un recorrido histórico detallado sobre los procesos de Enseñanza-Aprendizaje de la Lengua Zapoteca. Aquí tienes los puntos clave del video:

* Contexto Histórico: Explica los orígenes de la civilización zapoteca, desde figuras antiguas como "1 Terremoto" (siglo VI a.C.) hasta el esplendor y declive de Monte Albán. Introduce el término Bëni Gulasa para referirse a la era previa a la colonización.

* Adquisición vs. Enseñanza (L1): Distingue que, como lengua materna, el Zapoteco se adquiere de forma natural al hablarlo en el hogar, más que a través de una enseñanza formal.

* Enseñanza como Segunda Lengua (L2): Época Colonial: Inicia formalmente en el siglo XVI con obras como el "Arte en Lengua Zapoteca" y el "Vocabulario" de Fray Juan de Córdoba (1578), diseñados para que los españoles aprendieran el idioma.

* Siglo XIX: Hubo un periodo de silencio y abandono en la enseñanza del zapoteco debido a las políticas del estado mexicano para imponer el español como lengua nacional.

* Siglo XX y Actualidad: Se retoma el interés con materiales del Instituto Lingüístico de Verano (ILV), la SEP y el INEA, aunque muchos de estos fueron diseñados como puentes hacia el español o para fines de alfabetización, sin un impacto sistemático en el aula.

* Desafíos Contemporáneos: El ponente destaca la falta de métodos modernos (como el enfoque comunicativo) y la ausencia de formación universitaria específica para maestros de zapoteco.

* Labor del Colectivo Bëni Xidza: Comparte su experiencia enseñando Zapoteco en línea desde 2020, enfrentando la escasez de materiales didácticos y trabajando para crear niveles de referencia (como el Marco Común Europeo) adaptados a la lengua.

El video concluye con una sesión de preguntas sobre la importancia de descolonizar los métodos de enseñanza y la necesidad de dotar de mayor pertinencia cultural a la educación en Lenguas Indígenas.

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u/benixidza — 13 days ago