Obviously he should be weaker than FP Final war Shiggy or Deku, but how would he fare against PAM or PAFO for example?
I’ve seen a lot of talk about the USJ Nomu not actually being comparable to All Might, only being capable of matching him because of Shock Absorption. This is belief is easily proven false by the series.
-AFO was creating the Nomu with the intention of physically forcing All Might to kneel through its raw strength.
-Aizawa confirms that even without quirks, the Nomu was easily on par with All Might.
-Tomura tells All Might that the Nomu is as strong as him, so trying to restrain him via slamming him into the ground wouldn’t work.
-All Might says that the Nomu has unbelievable strength. Despite knowing that Kurogiri was about to chop him in half, he seemingly couldn’t escape the Nomu’s grasp.
-AFO himself confirms that the Nomu was indeed as strong as All Might, despite its defeat. They simply underestimated how far All Might was willing to push himself.
-As fast as All Might.
All Might and Deku both confirm that he was going beyond 100% of his power. That’s the only way he could have beat it.
Nomu could only match All Might because of shock absorption
See above, it’s still physically on par with All Might. Shock Absorption was to ensure All Might has no way of beating it.
S tier
Rating explanations:
Z= As strong, or stronger than Prime All Might.
Z- = Not as physically strong as Prime All Might, but capable of contending with him or beating him.
S+ = Stronger than Weakened All Might.
S= Direct equal to Weakened All Might.
S- = Not as physically strong as Weakened All Might, but capable of contending with or beating him.
A+ = weaker than, but close, to All Might levels of power.
Tomura even confirms that he was pushed to his limits by the attack.
Netero(hunterxhunter)
Dabura(jujutsukaisen)
Akemura(Kagurabachi)
Like, obviously he would have been number one in the verse, but by how much would he gap Final war Shigaraki and Deku for example? Would his physical stats increase? His quirk power and control should probably increase etc.
Battle rules and place:
- Battle takes place in the USJ Building, both are 15 meters apart.
- Izuku is still willing to use 100% on one part of his body as a last resort.
- Their objective is to either Kill/Incapacitate/Knock-out/Outlast their opponent.
- They are in character, not blood-lusted, however, their morals of not attacking a innocent person is non-existent.
Timeline:
- Izuku is right before he saves Iida from Hero Killer Stain.
- Tanjirou is from the beginning of the Mugen Train Mission.
Round 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/UJNTWaQnPo
Round 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/oMCF0gEPj4
Round 3: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/w1ALxAwSiG
Round 4: Already here
Round 5: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/1ikBqHoRNc
Round 6: --
Battle rules and place:
- Battle takes place in a random grass-field, both are 10 meters apart.
- Tanjirou knows about the danger of using Hinokami Kagura.
- Izuku is willing to use 100%, just as he did against Shoto.
- Their objective is to either Kill/Incapacitate/Knock-out/Outlast their opponent.
- They are in character, not blood-lusted, however, their morals of not attacking a innocent person is non-existent.
Timeline:
- Izuku is after the Shinso fight, his fingers are fully healed.
- Tanjirou is after the fight with Rui, but before Shinobu comes in and tries to kill Nezuko, he is healed from all injuries or loss of stamina for this battle, as well as having a brand new katana.
Round 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/UJNTWaQnPo
Round 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/oMCF0gEPj4
Round 3: Already here
Round 4: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/gjog0GSxhc
Round 5: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/1ikBqHoRNc
Round 6: --
Battle rules and place:
- Battle takes place in a random UA Training City. Both start 10 meters away from each other.
- Izuku knows how to use OFA and is aware of it's repercussions.
- Their objective is to either Kill/Incapacitate/Knock-out/Outlast their opponent.
- They are in character, not blood-lusted, however, their morals of not attacking a innocent person is non-existent.
Timeline:
- Izuku is after the Entrance Exam, but before he found out he passed.
- Tanjirou is after his fight with the Hand Demon, but before he completes the 7 days on the Mountain, for the sake of this match-up, his injuries are reversed to before the Final Selection.
Round 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/UJNTWaQnPo
Round 2: Already here
Round 3: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/dm448u4ax6
Round 4: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/gjog0GSxhc
Round 5: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/1ikBqHoRNc
Round 6: --
How else do you think it would affect the main MHA series as well?
Battle rules and place:
- Battle takes place in a Random Forest, they are 20 meters away from each other.
- Tanjirou does not have his knife or hatchet with him.
- Their objective is to either Kill/Incapacitate/Knock-out/Outlast their opponent.
- They are in character, not blood-lusted, however, their morals of not attacking a innocent person is non-existent.
Timeline:
- Izuku is after he saves Katsuki, but before he starts training with All Might.
- Tanjirou is after his fight with the Temple Demon, but right before he starts training with Sakonji Urokodaki.
Round 1: Already here.
Round 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/XQrU8JNjCJ
Round 3: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/dm448u4ax6
Round 4: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/gjog0GSxhc
Round 5: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHAPowerScaling/s/1ikBqHoRNc
Round 6: --
I'm beginning a series of threads that showcase some of MHA characters' best feats that might bump them up into being a Top 10 contender/higher into Top 10 starting with the best written character, Enji Todoroki heh
I dont like how people count dekus final punch as a feat,and I'll explain my reasoning for why,firstly,he openly states that it's the power of ALL NINE USERS,not just his power,meaning he cant do it normally,secondly,he cant use this unless he sacrifices every single user,this isnt just his user infused punch,this attack is a sacrificial attack that isnt powered by izuku but rather all 9 users,it cant be used to scald his ap since it wasnt his own power,seeing as in power scaling you cant count a buff or amp for someones power unless it's something they can do consistently and hold for a while,such as rimuru absorbing skills,the saiyans transformations,jin Morris's jeabongchim(his stat multiplier, since it just targets his body to remove its restrictions)and more,even if your sacrificing that buff using your body,if it's not something you can do with your own power,which deku cannot,it does not count,meaning that affect on the weather wasnt him,it was mainly all might and the other users,but with the help of dekus embers,seeing as all might is the only one in the verse who actually can actively change the weather with his normal or full power attacks which deku has not done once besides with amps,such as in the my hero movie,being at 100% and amping his power with bakugos by sharing their quirks,amping them both and then both of them attacking at once,that isnt something he can do consistently and it's also someone elses power,this alone should prove my point on why it shouldnt be counted as a deku feat,but if you need more,sure,sacrificial attacks that require the loss of power or life make sense for power scaling,ex:max uzumaki from jjk(geto,kenjaku)which sends out the users stored curses,its something that can be used consistently with the users own acquired storage with choosing on how much are sent out with it,dekus sacrificial attack was powered by others,not just his own storage,which he states himself,not only that,he cant choose how much power he sacrifices,he will lose all of it,maybe not the embers,but even if he doesnt lose the embers they will fade after a short amount of time as stated by himself and all might for himself,if your attack uses the power of others(a buff in most cases)even if it's from inside your body,its not your own feat,and even more so if its sacrificing all the power,not just yours,unless its sosomething you can do consistently and scale too on multiple occasions,or it's something specifically stated to come from your own power without help,it cannot be counted as a feat for yourself,say,yuji using piercing blood because of choso's convergence in the shinjuku showdown,he couldnt do it himself, he needed help,meaning it wasnt a reliable feat,megumi canceling a domain for example,he cant do that in the slightest,all he can do is invade/escape domains,and since it's two domains clashing,he only can negate the sure hit effect,he can only win the clash if he has assistance,if it's not a feat he can show on screen or in the manga/manwha/webtoon and it's a theoretical,such as if megumi had more time with his domain to train it,if a character in mha gets a quirk awakening,ect,then it cant be counted as a viable feat,which is why I believe that this punch shouldnt be counted as a feat for deku
My Hero Academia Battle
Peak/ Current for both
Avatar the Last Airbender vs My Hero Academia
Some fans claim Kirishimas and TetsuTetsus quirk only makes them super durable but at the same time in the episode Tetsu before the match was casually knocking down a couple of buildings and smashing metal with his fists bending solid Iron foundations, if he can smash things with that much force then how did he lose to Shoto after punching him repeatedly? He should’ve been out cold or his head crushed like a melon, does that mean MHA characters can train to be superhuman?
Why do some people say the gauntlet allows him to use higher percentages across his entire body even though it’s stated to only work on his arm?
People hate when you scale with statements and not feats, but when it comes to MHA feats just aren’t acceptable apparently.
God Tier:
1. One For All
A stockpiling Quirk whose power grows over generations.
It combines immense physical power with multiple inherited Quirks.
Like All For One, its theoretical limit is extremely high because it continually accumulates power.
2. All For One
Potential is effectively unbounded because it can continuously acquire, combine, and optimize Quirks.
Its ceiling increases whenever stronger Quirks become available.
3. New Order
One of the closest things in MHA to reality manipulation.
It can redefine the properties of targets by imposing rules.
It is held back mainly by its activation conditions and rule limitations rather than lack of power.
4. Overhaul
Complete reconstruction and deconstruction of matter.
Healing, fusion, environmental manipulation, and lethal offense all stem from the same Quirk.
Its only major limitation is requiring physical contact.
5. Alchemy
Similar to Overhaul in concept, but restricted to non-living matter.
Can reshape entire battlefields, create weapons, machines, defenses, and alter the user’s surroundings almost instantly.
Although below Overhaul due to its inability to manipulate living beings, its versatility justifies placing it above pure destructive Quirks.
S+ Tier:
6. Decay
After awakening, it evolved from single-target destruction into large-scale chain destruction.
It became capable of devastating entire cities through propagation.
Slightly below matter/reality manipulation because it primarily destroys instead of creating.
7. Weather Manipulation
Affects the environment on an enormous scale.
Can generate storms, lightning, tornadoes, heavy rain, and alter battlefield conditions.
Few Quirks possess comparable area of effect.
8. Blueflame
Highest offensive firepower among fire Quirks.
If its heat-resistance drawback were eliminated, its destructive ceiling would be extraordinary.
9. Half-Cold Half-Hot
Outstanding versatility.
Simultaneous offense, defense, mobility, terrain control, and stamina.
The combination of fire and ice gives it broader applications than almost every elemental Quirk.
10. Explosion
Demonstrates continuous evolution.
Provides mobility, offense, precision, aerial combat, and immense attack potency.
One of the best examples of a Quirk whose ceiling kept increasing throughout the series.
S Tier:
11. Flight (Slide and Glide)
The Quirk with the greatest evolution in My Hero Academia: Vigilantes.
Progresses from gliding to genuine flight, force projection, barriers, repulsion, and extreme mobility.
Its applications expanded far beyond its original appearance.
12. Hellflame
More stable and controllable than Blueflame.
Exceptional offensive output with high mastery potential.
13. Icy Ply
Massive battlefield control.
Excellent defensive and offensive versatility.
The strongest dedicated ice Quirks.
14. Dark Shadow
Its power scales dramatically in darkness.
Could arguably rank higher, but its dependence on environmental conditions and reduced control prevent placing it above the Quirks listed above.
15. Stress
Converts accumulated stress directly into physical power.
Potentially has no clearly defined upper limit.
Lower than Dark Shadow because its scaling is more situational.
16. Chimera
Combines multiple biological adaptations into one transformation.
Grants enhanced strength, durability, mobility, and natural weapons simultaneously.
Extremely powerful physically but lacks the versatility of higher-ranked Quirks.
17. Muscle Augmentation
One of the strongest enhancement Quirks.
Massive increases to strength, durability, and muscle control.
More specialized than Chimera.
18. Fierce Wings
Among the most versatile Quirks in the series.
Excellent for speed, reconnaissance, rescue, precision attacks, and flight.
Ranked lowest here because its maximum destructive potential is below the Quirks above it.
Conditional Tier:
1. Copy
Ceiling depends entirely on the Quirks available.
In ideal circumstances it can temporarily access multiple top-tier abilities.
2. Transform
After awakening, it can reproduce another person’s Quirk while transformed.
Extremely high ceiling, but dependent on obtaining blood and meeting activation requirements.
3. Manifest
Power depends entirely on the biological traits available to the user.
Potential ranges from modest to extraordinary, making it the most variable of the three.
Overall philosophy
The central principle behind this list is:
Matter manipulation > environmental manipulation > elemental destruction > mobility/physical enhancement.
Quirks with unlimited growth or reality-altering properties occupy God Tier.
Quirks capable of city-scale destruction or exceptional versatility occupy S+.
Quirks with extremely high but more specialized ceilings occupy S.
Quirks with high scaling but whose strength depends primarily on external conditions are separated into a Conditional Tier.
