r/MindHunter

Just finished S2 , i think Holden gets too much unnecessary hate

Holden isn't driven by ego and arrogance alone , he's also driven by lot of curiosity , he tries to genuinely try to understand killers rather than simply condemn them which is a really valuable trait in the kind of work he does

The entire Behavioral Science Unit exists because he keeps asking questions that everyone else is uncomfortable asking , what makes him the most interesting to me is how he rejects convention and tries to think out of the box all the time for which he is even ready to take steps that put his job into risk , i also found this interesting because at the start of the show we start with the theme of "crime is changing" and Holden's unconventional methods and thinking process is him adapting to this change.

A lot of his awkwardness comes from the fact that he's usually thinking about ideas rather than social conventions and like when u see patterns others miss some amount of unwavering belief in yourself is necessary.

I would not agree he is not empathetic at all , i think he does try to empathize with the killers he interviews but because he sees understanding them as a means to stop them which makes him seem cold and detached so he's not empathetic in the traditional because he is trying to study people all the time but the entire basis of his work is trying to understand people that everyone else has written off as monsters so he stop similar people in the future.

when things like intelligence, ambition, obsession, and social blindness exist in someone their personal relationships are bound to suffer , we see this in scientists , writers and other successful people(mostly geniuses) irl all the time but we admire them for the results they got us.

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u/Gloomy_Rip_3506 — 2 days ago

What are some shows you would recommend to someone who enjoyed mindhunter?

Just finished my 4th rewatch of both seasons, and nothing has changed. I personally think it is the best show to come out post prestige TV era.

I’m a huge Fincher-head so there may be some bias, but not many shows have the writing quality Mindhunter does. You can tell everyone involved was patient with the story, they weren’t chasing for big moments, nor were they trying to manufacture a spectacle. It’s meticulously crafted TV. Not to mention the spectacular acting chops. Holy shit

So to all the Mindhunter fans out there, i’m aware it got canceled, and I don’t know if it was just me, but I had a phase of chasing that high. True Detective Season 1 was great, but didn’t particularly hit the spots Mindhunter did.

What other shows would you recommend? Doesn’t necessarily have to be similar in subject-matter or in tone. But a show you could tell had passionate creators, that was executed perfectly much like Mindhunter.

(TL;DR - Recommend me a show as someone who loved Mindhunter) :)

u/Yoshikage34 — 9 days ago

Season 2 Episode 4

How did this masterpiece of a show get past me? I started binging a couple days ago, and WOW! 3:01 left in this episode and my mind is blown. I now understand how so my viewers have expressed their disappointment with the series not moving forward.

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u/Tyfull8740 — 6 days ago
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Who has watched this wonderful masterpiece series Mindhunter?

Don’t make the mistake of confusing a psychopath with a psychotic.

u/hunnybakshi — 13 days ago

How could someone not like this show?!

I asked my bf to watch MindHunter with me and I kept gushing about how cool it is and how its based on true stories etc etc and hes like ok sure. And we watched Ep 1 and hes like ya its ok I guess. And I was irritated LOL I was like wdym it's "ok" 🫩. Hes like "why do I have to like it the same amount as you" and I'm like ok fair but how are you gonna watch Avatar over this 💀

Im being dramatic yes haha, but has anyone ever tried showing someone this show?! How did it go? And are you also weirdly protective over this show? Hahah

(I am a Sociology major and studied Psych so its all just extra fascinating to me on that level, too)

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u/Inevitable_Bee_99 — 11 days ago

Anyone realize how obnoxious holden is on rewatches?

Possibly bc S2 makes Tench a character you really empathize with, but when you first watch mindhunter you are discovering this new method of thinking with holden, so you celebrate and root for his discoveries and facination.

But he seriously is a weird guy and obviously an interjection of the showrunners kinda holding a mirror to people who glorify true crime too much, with tench being a loadstone of sanity by his side, recognizing the horrors that were commited.

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u/Hefty-Love6158 — 12 days ago

Wendy is such a sneaky bitch can’t stand her

Her archetype is so insufferable. Like, I can’t stand how counter she is to the real work. I love when she goes to Georgia to play big girl and gets stomped by the Georgia DA lol.

Fucking you go Georgia hell ya! Makes me sick to live in MA where you have to literally be essentially killed before you can defend yourself without repercussion.

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u/Raikou239 — 10 days ago

Just A Thought: Ask Netflix for a Final Season?

I mean, their site, https://help.netflix.com/en/titlerequest , allows for requests, it couldnt hurt if a bunch of us try. I just want better closure, they don't have to extend it indefinitely, but I think if they brought it back they would catch a lot more viewers who watched years after the initial release, it might show numbers worth the investment? I dunno, I just finished season 2 for the second time and I really want some conflict/resolution with BTK and more of the concrete beginnings of the BAU rather than where they left it. Like I said, just a thought.

u/Careless-Cap3077 — 13 days ago

In a hypothetical third season, do you think the Ada Jeffries case from Season 1 was going to be linked to BTK?

Hey all. Just finished another rewatch of the show and I noticed that partway Season 2, Tench tries to call McGraw (the older small town detective from S1E1 who scolds Holden) to follow up on the Ada Jeffries case, in which a young mother and her son were restrained with knots and then stabbed in Fairfield, Iowa. On the call, an officer informs Tench that McGraw has died and from there, the BTK story thread fades into the backchannels again and Atlanta takes center stage.

I love how they follow up on a seemingly forgotten case from the pilot episode so briefly then still leave it unresolved. Had the show gotten it’s third season, do we think this murder would’ve been confirmed as being the work of BTK or at least more directly tied to him? As far as I know, Ada is a fictional person but her murder has similarities to real cold cases from the time and it’s speculated that Dennis Rader may have committed more than the 10 murders he was convicted of. Soooo do we think the show was going to pursue this further or do you think this was always going to be left as purely speculative with no true answers or conclusion?

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u/wickedevilman — 13 days ago

S2E7 what was up with the March sequence?

In Season 2, Ep 7, Holden comes up with a Hail Mary strategy to flush the killer out: set up permanent memorials at the abduction sites of some of the vics, and see if it draws out the unsub to gloat and relive his crimes.

There’s an issue with acquiring the requisite crosses because of FBU bureaucracy, paperwork, and office politics which means the crosses have to be assembled and delivered last minute.

There follows a tonally bizarre sequence where Holden frantic and in an almost hallucinatory state trying to find the church to raise the cross. Footage of the March is made to look like old newsreel andthe camera is all over the place. Plus the vibes are weird and oppressive.

What wasFincher/the show trying to do here? The whole tone, style and clinical style of much of the photography of the series is completely out of sync with this brief scene but it’s so distinctive and weird, I had to know what others thought.

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u/Salty_CronkiteMGS86 — 14 days ago

Wayne Bertram Williams: possible recruiter?

Is it possible Wayne Bertram Williams was a recruiter for the pedophile/child molester sex trafficking ring that operated near the stadium?

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u/Separate-Resort-5658 — 13 days ago