r/NoonShowBitching

the open mouth gum chewing would be a deal breaker

I prefer Sheep Detectives. Pleasant, Calm, yet Deep

Same trigger: supernatural wish to make someone love you

Same consequence: love turns into dangerous, suffocating obsession

Same theme: manufactured love is not love, it is possession

Same moral: the person who made the wish is the actual villain, even if they didn't intend to be

Bear x Nikki (Obsession) are parallel to Wes (lonely, unrequited love, supernatural means) x Hope (Normal woman obsessed by a wish)

Supernatural (Wishful Thinking)

Toxic New teaser address Ladies& Ladies, yet most of them are introduced through objectification rather than character. Never expected this from a director like Geetu Mohandas..who did that SAY IT moment

It's too early to judge but their Marketing is around these ladies rather than Rocking⭐

After the Trivikram - NTR movie announcements, Kollywood and Tollywood groups are fighting over Lord Muruga.., before it was DMK - BJP politicians were fighting over Muruga.

BJP says Murugan belongs to all Hindus. DMK says he is Tamil and Tamil only.

And somewhere in the middle of all this noise, the actual history of Murugan is just sitting there.

So let me tell you what we actually know.

First, who was Murugan before anyone started arguing about him?

In the ancient times,

The land was divided into five ecological zones.

Hills, Forests, Farmland, Coast & Desert

Each zone had its own deity, its own justice system, its own stories and culture. The hills belonged to a god called Ceyon, which just means "the red one" in Tamil.

This Ceyon was not Shiva's son. He had no Sanskrit name. He had no peacock throne or divine army. He was a hill deity. A Tribal, Raw diety associated with spears, ecstatic priests, desire, honey, and the mountain forests of South India.

The priests who served him were called Velan. They would go into trances, Channel the god, Speak in his voice. This is not Brahmanical religion. This is shamanism, a folk religion. This is the kind of thing that was happening in Tamil Nadu centuries before Sanskrit became dominant in the south.

We know this because of two pieces of evidence that are very hard to argue with.

One is a text called the Tolkappiyam. It is the oldest surviving Tamil grammar. Most scholars date it somewhere between the 2nd and 1st century BCE. It mentions Ceyon as the standard deity of the Kurinji, the hill landscape.

The other is a temple.

In 2004 the tsunami hit the Tamil Nadu coast near Mahabalipuram. When the water pulled back it revealed something that had been buried under sand and sea for about two thousand years. A Murugan temple. The Archaeological Survey of India excavated it properly between 2005 and 2007. Radiocarbon dating placed the earliest layer at around 2200 years ago. Second century BCE.

That is the oldest Murugan shrine. In Tamil Nadu. Pre-Brahmanical. Pre-Puranic. Pre the whole Sanskrit theological framework we know today.

So yes. The Tamil claim has serious weight behind it.

But here is where it gets complicated

At the same time that Ceyon was being worshipped in Tamil hills, something else was happening up north.

In Sanskrit texts going back to at least the 3rd century BCE, there is a deity called Skanda. Also called Kumara.

He shows up in Panini's grammar. In Kautilya's Arthashastra. In the Mahabharata. In early Upanishads.

Coins from the Yaudheya warrior clan dated between the 2nd century BCE and 2nd century CE have a six-headed deity (Shan Mukha) on them with inscriptions saying he is their patron god.

This northern Skanda is a war god. Son of Shiva. Commander of divine armies. A Brahmanical deity with an elaborate mythology.

Here is the thing though.

The northern Skanda and the Tamil Ceyon-Murugan are not the same god. Not yet. They share some features. The spear. The commander identity. The warrior aura. But they come from different traditions. They have different personalities. Different rituals. Different relationships to caste and Brahmanical religion.

So what happened?

They merged.

Somewhere between the 2nd century BCE and the 5th century CE, these two traditions started bleeding into each other. It was not deliberate. It was the kind of thing that happens when two religious cultures start occupying the same geographic and social space.

Brahmanical religion moved south. Tamil culture was absorbing Sanskrit influence.  And in this contact zone, Ceyon and Skanda started becoming the same person.

The Paripatal, a Sangam anthology, already describes Murugan as Shiva's son. That is the synthesis beginning.

But here is what is interesting. The Tamil folk dimensions never really disappeared. The tribal consort Valli, who has no Sanskrit parallel, stayed in Tamil Murugan mythology.

So NTR-TRIVIKRAM is about Skanda, not Muruga.

Even the songs choice is so eerie, and like I don't know it feels like the kind of scene that I imagine when I imagine a horror movie, like some women ghost singing in the distance, the suspense really got me.

Maybe it doesn't help that im right now the only one in a big rajasthani mansion like this 🤣😰

I heard that the CBFC cut 38 seconds from the film before it could release in Indian theatres. They removed 14 seconds of graphic sxu@l activity and 24 seconds of extreme violence. The film was already given an ‘A’ rating, which means it’s only for adults, and CBFC doing this is actually non-sense.

I watched the censored version in theatres. But I heard from others who saw the full uncut version what was taken out.

CBFC didn’t cut just a “hot” scene. They cut a scene that was saying something important. The director used those few seconds to show us who these two people really are and what is actually happening between them.

Inidan censor board is ridiculous