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Rawaromachem - Inconsistent IFRA and MSDS docs and poor performance

I have been using fragrance products since 2000, but perfumery via fragrance oils is a new found interest for me. I started bookmarking links to websites of vendors. While researching on YouTube, I came across videos on Rawaromachem’s channel and decided to explore their offerings.

Rawaromachem claims that their fragrance oils are IFRA compliant.  They do not provide any relevant documentation of fragrance oils on their website. You need to get in touch with their support team to obtain the documents.

In my case, they contacted me. I obtained the IFRA certificates and MSDS for LV Afternoon Swim and LV Imagination fragrance oils (both Identical grade).

From the outset, there were major red flags in their documentation.

Copy-pasted IFRA certificates

The numbers in IFRA certificates for both the fragrance oils were the same across all the categories. This is not practically feasible in real world that the IFRA limits for two different fragrances having different scent profiles and hence chemical compositions are exactly the same, down to the second decimal place across all categories.

Empty section 3 on MSDS

The MSDS for both the fragrance oils had no ingredient mentioned in section 3 citing that the fragrance oil is a mixture of fragrance ingredients and that it does not contain hazardous components above reportable limits.

Despite the documentation issues, I purchased the oils to evaluate performance. I created perfumes at a 22% concentration per their issued IFRA certificates with 80% perfumer’s alcohol and allowed it to mature for around 15 days.

Performance result

The opening notes were off and longevity was missing. I understand, that the fragrance oils that I have bought have citrus heavy notes and hence, will not last long, but having them disappear in 15 minutes is indicates severe quality or dilution issues.

Further requests

To conclusively prove to myself their questionable documentation, I asked them to furnish the documentation for LV Pacific Chill, Ralph Lauren Polo Sport and Dior Homme 2005. I was told that they would require a bulk order to furnish the documentation in entirety, although they offered the documentation of a single fragrance oil. I preferred LV Pacific Chill.

The same story repeated.

Same IFRA numbers as the previous fragrance oils across all the categories.

The MSDS of Pacific Chill fragrance oil did list the ingredients with Di Propylene Glycol (DPG) as the majority constituent with a concentration of 22%. DPG in this concentration is basically a dilutant.

I have asked pertinent questions to their support team and founder and await their response.

I am posting this here so other formulators and hobbyists can evaluate technical documentation critically before buying. Has anyone else requested SDS/IFRA sheets from them and noticed duplicate data?

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u/tuxlinus — 18 hours ago

I built a free perfumery raw materials database with 1581 materials - sharing it with the community

I've been working on a perfumery project for a while, and one part of it turned into something I thought might actually be useful on its own.

So I decided to make the raw materials catalog completely free and publicly accessible.

It currently contains 1,581 perfumery materials, with a substantial amount of structured information for each material, including:

* 1,153 CAS numbers and 4,308 synonyms / trade names

* A written odor description for every material (about 44,000 words in total)

* 21 olfactive families and 214 sub-families

* An impact rating and volatility band per material

* Estimated GC-MS constituent breakdowns (composition tables) for 588 materials, covering 3,177 constituent rows

* IFRA data: 291 entries from the 51st Amendment, including limits reconstructed and cross-checked entry by entry against the original IFRA source file

* Additional metadata and cross-references, including related materials and common pairings

The goal isn't to make another simple "ingredient list". I wanted something you could actually use when researching a material, comparing materials, looking for alternatives, or trying to understand how a material fits into perfumery.

It's completely free to browse, with no account required and one page per material:

[https://perfumate.app/catalog\](https://perfumate.app/catalog)

I'm mainly sharing it because I know how scattered this information can be when you're researching materials. You end up jumping between supplier pages, IFRA documents, CAS searches, GC-MS references and different fragrance databases.

I'd genuinely like feedback from people who actually work with materials:

* Are there fields you'd add?

* Is any information unclear or misleading?

* Which materials are currently hardest to research?

* What would make a material database more useful to you?

And one important note: the IFRA information is provided as a research/reference layer and should not replace checking the current official IFRA standards and relevant supplier documentation before making safety or compliance decisions.

Hopefully it's useful to some of you. If you find an error in a material page, please point it out - I'd much rather fix bad or inaccurate data than leave it there.

u/PerfuMate — 1 day ago
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How to boost projection and longevity of Santal 33 and Tobacco Vanille premixed oil bases?

Hey everyone, I buy pre-formulated perfume oils for Santal 33 and Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille dupes—they get about 80% scent accuracy, but the projection and longevity fall short. I want to reinforce them using single aromachemicals, but I have no experience working with individual molecules. My local supplier currently stocks materials like Iso E Super, Hedione, Cedramber, Cashmeran, Ambroxan, Galaxolide, Habanolide, Etil Vainillina, Cumarina, Eugenol, Resina Benjuí, and Ionona Beta. From this list, which specific materials and dosage percentages would you recommend adding to each concentrate to boost performance like duration and projection without ruining or changing the original scent profiles to much?

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u/totalynotavilan — 1 day ago

Base Oils to make my own fragrances

I'm looking for a supplier for this Idea, where I would mix the building blocks, like lime, mandarin and so on, to mix my own fragrances, not inspirations, can anyone point me in the right direction to where I can buy them from?

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u/XenoBoiii — 1 day ago
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Pumpkin scents

Does anyone know any good pumpkin scents (BODY MISTS) from here
Preferably
- not sickeningly sweet
- kinda airy
- decent longevity and projection
- doesn’t have a wax smell to it
- I just want to smell like someone just baked a pumpkin desert, the aroma :)

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u/Fun-maximum4055 — 3 days ago
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Anyone into perfume oils?

My fragrance collection has grown to a point where I’m satisfied with it. I’ve slowly come to the conclusion that perfume oils might lowkey be where the best value for money is.

Unfortunately, I’m not very knowledgeable when it comes to perfume oils, but I’d like to dive more into them.
For context, I’m male, 25, and prefer sweet or woody scent profiles. All the fragrances I currently own are “statement makers” and quite loud, so my perfume oil needs to perform well on its own. That’s the main use case for me.
I live in the Netherlands, so preferably EU webshops.

So I have a few questions, and hopefully you guys can help me out. Any feedback is appreciated:

  1. Which perfume oil(s) do you own and can recommend?
    2.How did you get into perfume oils, and what’s the biggest thing you’ve learned?

Looking forward to all the answers, and thanks in advance!

PS: thinking of buying Swiss Arabians Private Frankincense

u/Afr882 — 3 days ago

Perfume oils

Hi im Ammar im new to this community so just an intro im based in India we manufacture inspired perfume oils
We offer worldwide delivery
Would love to connect with you guys
Email : Ammarperfumeoils@gmail.com
Whatsapp: +91 9616102661

Thank you
Also have attached alist of fragrances we have (thats close to 1000)

u/hammad888 — 4 days ago
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Dedcool Xtra Milk/ Riddle fragrance oil dupe??

Hey everyone!

I absolutely loveeee the smells of Dedcool Xtra Milk and the Riddle oil. However, I really don’t want to spend that much money on body oil, laundry detergent, perfume, etc. I’ve been making my own body and home products for awhile and would really like to find a fragrance oil or a combination of fragrance oils that match that same ambery musk scent. Does anyone have any recommendations of good dupes or fragrance oil combinations that would get me close to those smells?

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u/MaleficentSyllabub96 — 4 days ago

Diluting concentrated fragrance oil (used by perfume shops) with propylene glycol for skin — anyone done this?

Hey all, I picked up some concentrated perfume oil (the kind that's normally sold to other shops/blenders to make finished perfumes with, not meant to be worn directly). It's alcohol-free and quite strong.

I'm planning to dilute it with propylene glycol (USP grade) to bring it down to a wearable strength for rollerballs, since I want to avoid alcohol-based perfumes.

Has anyone here actually done this — diluting a raw/concentrated fragrance oil with PG for direct skin application? A few things I'm trying to figure out:can it be used directly on skin or too harsh?

  • Does PG actually dissolve fragrance oil properly, or does it stay separated/cloudy?
  • Any issues with skin irritation or sensitivity using PG this way?
  • What ratio would you start with for something this concentrated (it's meant for further dilution by shops, so I'm guessing it's quite potent)?
  • Is there a better diluent than PG for this purpose (DPG, IPM, etc.) that's still alcohol-free?

Would appreciate any real experience before I start mixing. Thanks!

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u/Affectionate-Bad20 — 6 days ago

Looking for a warm creamy Coconut fragrance to blend with essential oils

I recently tried a hand soap with a coconut fragrance that blended nicely with the other oils within the soap. It inspired me to try and create a perfume oil based on the scents that I was experiencing.

My dilemma is finding that "right" coconut scent to work with so it balances with the other oils that I'll be working with. The scent of Coconut is (for me) a versatile scent that can create a beautiful blend with the right amount and in the oils that are being blended with the coconut.

I was given a sample of a Coconut scented fragrance oil which smelled a bit like a mild cedarwood pencil. Which leads me to believe there is some wood scented oil within this Coconut fragrance. I used the Coconut sample to test a different blend and the wood scent of this Coconut jumped forward and no coconut was apparent.

I decided to try Edens Garden "Coconut CO2 oil". I tried a few drops on the skin and it has a roasted Coconut scent that wasn't going to work. The roasting scent was too prominent and the oil itself didn't seem to hold it's scent with another blend that I was testing the CO2 with.

I'm looking for suggestions where I can find a "unadulterated" Coconut fragrance that I can modify to create its own characteristics of being sweet, creamy, warm, etc. By unadulterated, I'm thinking nothing more being added to the Coconut that could change its scent..ie Coconut lavender, Coconut Vanilla, etc. Just a nice Coconut fragrance that holds its own scent.

I'm guessing most of the Coconut fragrances out there are synthetics? I've also seen in some ingredients that a "coconut flavor" was added to the product. Does that even create a scent?

I appreciate any leads or ideas to find and/or create a Coconut scent to blend with. It's hard to make a trusted purchase based on website descriptions, let alone reviews of products.

Thank you in advance. :)

\~MM\~

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u/MadMagdasTarot — 5 days ago

Clone perfume oil manufacturers?

I have recently tried luxodor clone fragrance oils along with their fixative.
Around 75% of the samples I tried were a very good match. I’ve created some 30ml sprays with around 25-30% oil concentrations they have been macerating for 2 weeks so I will wait another week or two before I test the performance and update.

I am thinking about trying the dupe fragrance oils from universal perfumes and cosmetics (UNI) as they have so called “perfect match” oils for sale.

Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with this oil manufacturer or have any other recommendations for premium oil manufacturers?

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u/Stunning_Ad_9862 — 7 days ago
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Narciso Rodriguez For Her Musc (Oil)

Does anyone remember this perfume? (Or perfume oil?) It was an oil musc from Narciso Rodriguez's For Her line and it had the most heavenly smell.

I just found an old bottle in my room with a tiny amount left and decided to see if it was still being sold but it's been discontinued it seems (the For Her line still exists but it's all eau de parfum, etc. and they don't have the same smell).

Is there anything that has a similar smell to the original For Her musc? I'm desperate to find it now.

u/lewittman — 5 days ago
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What are the best travel size atomizers?

Does anybody have and recommendations on the best travel atomizers to pick from? I need one that doesn't leak, does not change the smell of the fragrance over time and will not cause the fragrance to evaporate over time.

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u/RemarkableDistance49 — 7 days ago

Guide to starting a small business

Totally new to all of these but really enjoyed colognes and was exposed to an oil fragrance store for the first time in San Diego and now me and my wife wants to start a small fun business like it as well.

Starting to do some research im seeing Scent Bazaar is a good place to order some Oils?

And please correct me if Im wrong, starting this with mixing the oil with perfumers alcohol?

25% or less oil and then 75% is pure perfumers alcohol? If i start with scent bazaar, do i need to add other stuffs? Fixatives?

Im pretty sure this is a very dumb post for some so i want to apologize in advance. Still learning and just really excited too. Hoping someone can guide us in the right direction. Thank you!

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u/booyyaahh — 7 days ago
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The ‘90s called, and they can pry my perfume oils from my cold, dead hands

L to R: Auric Blends Chinese Rain, Auric Blends Egyptian Goddess, Auric Blends Black Opium, Kuumba Made Black Copium, Kuumba Made Frankincense & Myrrh, Kuumba Made Egyptian Musk

Chinese Rain: This smells almost exactly like J.Lo Glow, but it’s a but deeper, a bit, well, rainier. A touch sweeter, but also more melancholic compared to Glow’s spa-like luxury. Be warned: this stuff projects very hard.

Egyptian Goddess: A skin+ musk. Subtle, warm, slightly sticky-sweet in a playful way. I’m anosmic to most Egyptian musk fragrances, so I’m just glad I can smell this one. I’d like a teensy bit more strength, but it’s been a lovely bedtime scent.

Black Opium: Truth be told, I have not worn this one, but I’m excited to. From the bottle, it has a slightly “cologne-y” smell in the stereotypical men’s fragrance sense (that is to say, vaguely reminiscent of Drakkar Noir), but it’s been given a massive dose of spices and patchouli. Kind of old school, but I’m excited to try it out soon.

Black Copium: The “Co” is for coconut. Like Auric Blends’ Black Opium, this is spicy and ambery. There’s no patchouli here, just a creamy, dense coconut that slowly fades into the background the further into the dry-down you go. This one is kind of sexy, but in a very cozy, “in for the night” way. Simultaneously, this would be great at the goth club or kava bar.

Frankincense & Myrrh: It took a little bit for this one to grow on me, but it’s turning out to be a great little summer incense. Bright, citrusy frankincense grounded my resinous myrrh. The frankincense is the star of the show here. It makes me think of Nitraj’s grey frankincense incense sticks.

Egyptian Musk: I’m totally anosmic to it on my skin, but it’s very soft and pretty out of the bottle. Smells nice on my wife’s skin! Ultimately not for me, sadly.

u/eau_de_florida — 11 days ago
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What’s the best way to deal with a large fragrance material collection?

Hi everyone,
I’m looking for some advice from people with more experience in DIY perfumery.
I’ve recently ended up with a much larger collection of fragrance materials than I realistically need for my own projects. Most of it is in good condition and properly stored, but there’s simply more material than I’m likely to use myself.
For those of you who have been in a similar situation, what did you do with your surplus?
Do you usually keep everything and slowly work through it, split it into smaller quantities, pass some on to other perfumers, or is there another practical approach I’m overlooking?
I’d be particularly interested in hearing from people who have dealt with a large surplus before. I’d like to make sure the materials end up being useful to someone rather than simply sitting unused.
Thanks in advance for any advice or experiences.

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u/Ok-Attention-3410 — 8 days ago
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Perfume oil help!

Hi everyone I’m looking for a supplier that sells at reasonable pricing. I’m trying to open a very small perfume business and would be buying in 100mls and hoping to find someone as affordable as possible. If anyone could kindly recommend your top suppliers that would be great thanks!

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u/Old_Awareness_6361 — 9 days ago
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Women’s fragrance

Any help finding some fragrances to try? I’m 18 and I want a really nice fragrance that will last a long time. I don’t want it to smell too much like a grandma scent and I think I want something more for the fall and winter months. I have Burberry goddess, but I honestly don’t think it really lasts that long. I have lots of floral sense for spring and summer, but I don’t really have anything for winter and fall. I just want a nice scent that someone will remember me by. I don’t think I necessarily have a price point just not anything super outrageous.

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u/Kingdom_Chaser224 — 11 days ago
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Looking for a fragrance oil that will complement black opium perfume

I love black opium perfume, and I really want to work on layering it better. I would love to get a body oil that would really complement it and any other body washes or routine that will make it last longer and accentuate. I would love any recommendations or if there is a better perfume out there

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u/Western_Discussion82 — 9 days ago