Picked up this today as part of a packe listing. I got my Thorens 150 mk ii, two omnidirectional speakers and a tandberg tr-200 receiver, and this 78 rpm player. I used to collect 78's and thought it looked fun, so in the car it went as a bonus. Can't find much though, you guys have any info?
I want to know how sound was put on 78' Shellac between the time period of 1890-1915.
Would appreciate if I could get some info if a Victorola 16 had an influence on 78s or if they made 78s for the Victorola 16
Was gifted this beautiful Pathe model 16 grammaphone. I believe this model originates somewhere between 1910-1919. Crank still works as does the release. But its missing the tonearm and needle. And i am unsure how to figure out the right replacement piece on ebay, Etc. Cant wven find a schematic that at least illustrates what it should look like. Any help is appreciated.
The late 20’s orthophonic version re-released on the 1930’s Victor label.
After a few years of on and off searching, a couple months back I bought this early Decca Dulcephone off of a collector in belgium, from what I know they don't come to the public market often and he was also supposedly considering giving it to a WW1 museum like he had done with another period gramophone (American) before, I was lucky to get it when I did and I'm definitely not complaining, considering where it was found in south belgum where there was relatively heavy fighting earlier war (1914 or so..) it wouldn't be out of the question it had some involvement in the conflict.
I've played one of my period John McCormack records on this in the video (Where the River Shannon flows), John McCormack was one of the most popular and notable music artists of the period, his most notable being the original 1914-15(?) recording of "It's A Long way to Tipperary", I would've loved to play one of those but they're quite expensive on the market currently and when they're not I get screwed on shipping. Thank you!
Hi!
I’ve come to realize in my travail that Victor’s external, wooden part of the horn apparatus (cast iron ‘elbow’ to the rear of it) HAD TO HAVE BEEN MADE AND ASSEMBLED BY ‘THE NEW GUY’ lol. I’m pretty sure that ONLY the new guy could have been chosen to suffer this high maintenance work lol…
Having now done this personally, I can tell you that doing one of these horns HAS TO BE the equivalent of the new guy at the Victor Factory being told to go find a ‘Form ID-10-T” to fill out to request more of them then go put 20 of these together, the new IT kid being given CAT V/VI cable to sort wires and crimp (tedious, long), or the new mechanic being told to go and find the blinker fluid and put it in all the vehicles.
I think oak was the same base, so they didn’t use veneer for these parts. With mahogany or others, lower grades of wood AND veneer were always used on the hidden, inner, and back parts.
I’m getting closer, not nearly satisfied enough with the work, but trudging on! A little bubbling on some of the undersides- it’ll never be seen or viewed, so I’m going to tell my brain to accept that. Prep then French Polish is next.
I wish you a great day, and thanks for stopping :)
P.S. - I ended up veneering the bottom- I can’t leave something half-ass, even if done poorly lol
So on June 30 George gouraud Edison’s London agent George Gouraud was born. He was born in niagra falls in New York to Francois Gouraud a Frenchman who promoted the daguerreotype in America. Gouraud was orphaned as a small boy when his father died in 1847. and his mother not long after. And from my other posts you know the back story already on what he did so i will write about what he did after. So by August 1888 on August 14 he recorded with 2 unknown musicians to record Arthur Sullivans lost chord and then introduced that and the Crystal Palace ones to the London press. On October 5th of 1888 gouraud held the biggest phonograph party at his house called little Menlo in Upper Norwood. Guests there included Arthur Sullivan,Alexander broadley,Joseph Parkinson,Edmund Yates plus others. He recorded the introduction, a toast to Edmund Yates,Arthur Sullivan’s message to Edison,broadley and Parkinson rambling about the night and stuff. Parkinson got cut out mid sentence due to the cylinder not having enough room because broadly took to long. By the end of the night everyone drank a full bottle of wine so when Sullivan was recorded the 2 were able to act sober but by the final recording with broadley and Parkinson they were all wasted. On November 2 1888 gouraud introduced the phonograph to more elite people at queen ann’s and made some recordings and it wasn’t as important as little Menlo. On December 18th he recorded William Gladstone the former prime minister of Britain which Gladstone’s voice was permanently damaged due to years of shouting at parliament so his voice came out faint on the recording but still hearable. On December the 21st he made his Christmas greeting to Edison the oldest one around. He dispatched them all soon afterwards and arrived not long after new years. In 1889 he recorded Robert browning the poet and he recited when they brought the good news from Ghent to aix and Robert forgot most of the words. He died the next December and on his 1 year anniversary it was the record was
Played and it was the first time a dead person’s
Voice spoke back. During this year he expanded operations a lot and set up an office and hired phonographers including Mary Helen Ferguson and Graham hope. In 1890 Ferguson recorded Florence nightingale and Martin lanfried a trumpeter and it was for a charity event for the veterans of the Crimean war I think. Lord Tennyson was recorded but the cylinder was damaged by mould and I think possibly the grooves slightly melted and deformed so the audio is poor and all thanks to his grandson storing it next to a radiator.
Anyway during the early 90s Edison got fed up with gouraud because gouraud had done little to sell phonographs and was obsessed with recording celebrities which Edison fired Gouraud very sadly. But Gouraud still had rights to the phonograph in England so he couldn’t be stopped fully. But by 1892 he was forced out but he still held shares with Edison which shows he still loved the phonograph. So in 1898 he left little Menlo for Brighton and in 1900 he developed the gouraudophone which amplified sound and was shown off at the Paris exposition that year. In his last years he lived between France and Switzerland which he lost his wife in 1907 and his son Jackson died in 1910 which deeply hurt gouraud the 2 deaths in a not long time frame and in 1909 he was bankrupt as he lost most
Of his fortune and he married a Norwegian woman in Lausanne Switzerland to have a companion. he resigned in a boarding house in 1911 near lassaune and on February 10th 1912 his son Bayard died after he was coming home from Indian as a British soldier. Gouraud died of heart failure on feb 17 at 69.
Incredibly cool finds, the Grafonola is nearly 100 years old! The Packard Bell C-1461 seems like it's fully operational too! :D
So on june the 29th 1888 in Crystal Palace London at 2pm colonel George gouraud brought the new perfected phonograph to attempt to record the Handel festival choir in Crystal Palace. He went up on the press gallery balcony overlooking the whole building and recorded the earliest surviving cylinder of Handel Israel in Egypt a choir and orchestra performance.
The recording came out well but now thanks to mould it makes it seem faint but originally would have sounded loud and booming. The conductor was sir august manns and the choir is over 4000 singers.
The photo I put is the London news and they wrote about the event so you can see that illustration is what it would have looked like.
this auto comes from a 1920 victor vicrola vv xi 777073 im wondering does the spring drum of your alls makes that metal scuffing sound or am i just crazy lol .. u can hear it around 0:23
So on June 26th 1888 George gouraud landed in London with Edison’s perfected phonograph accompanied by an Edison employee last name Hamilton and placed it in little Menlo. It was in the weeks that people in London learned that sound recording was here
To stay as the phonograph now sounded very good compared to screechy tinfoil.
My sisters surprised me with this Columbia Model 164. Apparently the Japanese version. I haven’t opened it up to look at the motor yet, but it sounds good and am able to vary the speed fine. My question is about the handle. I can do some things that won’t look good, but will work. I’d prefer to do my best to restore it to a close to original look, but aren’t finding much help online. Any advice where to look for DIY fixes?
It’s amazing what some mineral spirits and elbow grease will getcha!
⚡️Edit to add note⚡️: know what you are doing with electricity- 30v isn’t that much, but it’s enough, and I’ve been shocked more times than I can count with 120 and it is not good for you. Be safe, please!
tl;dr - This is the 31-33-volt VE-XVII motor. I believe the XVI, XVII, and XVIII all used the same/similar electric motors (except for different build number/types) from the 1913-1920 timeframe (ish). This is a #4 from 1916-1918. I have yet to see a #1-#3.
I’ve looked online and I haven’t yet found a good search string or site to find someone working on one of these earlier models (i.e. not the 1920s to later where induction discs were the next thing).
This thing is like a grapefruit in size, probably 6-8lbs for just the motor, but the complexity of this getup! Seriously, look at all the complications!
The “on-off” switch for the brake is indeed a switch, but that weird, ratchety gizmo must slow the ‘system’ of gears, the platter, and its motion as a whole. I’ll be interested to see how it actually works when i get it back together! I will post that when I’m finished.
I wish you a wonderful day, thank you for being cool, and I appreciate you stopping by!
P.S. - is it me, or is this a LOT of motor to spin a turntable? Or was the build like this so it wouldn’t break down or electrocute due to its heavy build?
Hello, I have a vintage 1968 RCA radio/phonograph cabinet and it is called “The Ramsgate” and the model is VLT 72-W. I purchased this second hand and it plays but is a bit crackly. I opened the back and it was extremely dusty and some screws were loose so I cleaned it up and tightened the screws which helped a little but not completely. I’m desperately searching for the manual (or someone that could tell me what the interior components are) so I can better understand the components before attempting to do anything else. Unfortunately there is not a vintage record repair shop near me and I obviously would have a difficult time shipping it due to the size and weight. If anyone knows someone that may have the manual or has knowledge of these types of phonographs I would greatly appreciate it! Picture of interior components were prior to cleaning gently with duster and compressed air.