r/PokemonBlackandWhite2

(this is on volt white 2 btw)

It gets one shot by everything but i dont know why exactly, this game forced me to know what stats and movesets i need to have for some pokemon, the only thing i see is the Sp defense being low and thats kinda bad for him but why?? isnt him a tank or something

i had to put quick claw on him so he can do anything before turning into dust, but still whatever knocks him off

i just caught a Zweilous, i know i have already 2 dragon types but metagross is just selling, i dont know what to do

I’ve been playing Pokémon for >10 years and finally have a shiny and not only that it’s a full odds shiny with Adamant nature and super luck

This guys about to become my Ace

Su White ho scelto Snivy come starter e ho finito il gioco.

Se passo asse dei ricordi su Black 2, poi avvio la partita e vorrei prendere Snivy nuovamente come starter.

Se fra 1 anno decido di eliminare il salvataggio di White per prendere un'altro starter (es. Oshawott, che avrei dovuto prendere forse fin dall'inizio), poi posso rifare memory link? Cosa succede alla versione di B2 se lo rifaccio? Mantengo le cose vecchie? (come gli accessori del pokemon musical).

Is there any pokemon hard to get ?

I'm playing White 2

This time we got the forces of nature trio, Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus with their hidden ablities! Crazy! Also we have Gardevoir and Gallade. How good are our encounters?

Pokémon obtained via the Pokémon Dream Radar 3DS app can be transferred to your game immediately, meaning you can access them right from the very beginning of your playthrough. Since players can nowadays use save editors like PKHeX to inject this exact Pokémon into their playthroughs for fun, we are throwing it onto the tier list. There are a few unique rules for these encounters:

• Hidden Abilities: Every single Pokémon transferred from the Dream Radar will have its Hidden Ability.
• Dynamic Leveling: Their level is entirely dependent on the number of Gym Badges you currently have when you receive them. They start at Level 5 (0 badges) and scale all the way up to Level 40 (8 badges), meaning you never have to worry about them being massively overleveled or underleveled (maybe after 6th gym) when they join your team.
• Dream Radar Pokémon List & Item List

Last round voting results:

Metagross B: Metagross has a pretty great typing. Even as Beldum, it resists Cheren's Normal-type attacks and is immune to Roxie's Poison-type Gym. Learning Zen Headbutt at 29 is very nice.

But Beldum phase is pretty bad. Beldum only knows Take Down until it evolves at Level 20. Also with Hidden Ability Light Metal is useless in battle. Without Clear Body, it can be intimidated and its stats dropped. It also has slow speed.

Spiritomb A: Spiritomb has zero weaknesses. Combine this with three immunities (Normal, Fighting, and Psychic) and base 108 in both defensive stats, and you have a pretty good wall. It is good for Cheren. It also easily walls Roxie and Burgh. Offensively, its base 92 Attack and Special Attack hit hard in the early game, and it gets nice starting moveset featuring Shadow Sneak, Feint Attack, and the Hypnosis + Dream Eater combo. In the mid game, it even learns Nasty Plot to function as a bulky setup sweeper.

Spiritomb's Base 35 Speed means it will always move last. Furthermore, while its Defense and Special Defense are massive, its Base 50 HP stat is low, which starts sucks when you go further in the game. Having no weaknesses is fantastic, but it also means Spiritomb doesn't naturally resist many types either, forcing it to take neutral damage from almost everything that isn't Normal, Fighting, or Psychic.

Bronzong C: Like Metagross, Bronzong has same typing, thus defensively good. Bronzor can carry your team through the first three Gyms. Offensively, it also gets to take massive advantage of its abysmal Speed stat by utilizing a highly damaging STAB Gyro Ball to punish faster opponents.

Sadly its Hidden Ability Heavy Metal is so much worse than its normal abilities. Sure, it makes Heavy Slam even better, but Bronzong doesn't learn Heavy Slam until Level 50. Without Levitate or Heatproof. Without those immunities/resistances, Bronzong takes big damage from Ground and Fire-type attacks.

Driftblim C: Since it is yet another ghost type from Dream Radar, it is fine in early game. Its Dream Radar Hidden Ability is Flare Boost, which increases its Special Attack by 50% when it is burned. So later in the game with Flame Orb (White 2 only though), you can always pre-burn with it to have that active.

Drifblim has a massive HP stat, but its actual Defense and Special Defense are awful. Drifblim also has Fluctuating experience group and having mid speed as ghost type isn't great when there are so many Dark types.

Musharna C: Munna starts strong thanks to 2nd gym being Poison gym. With access to Psybeam early and a good Special Attack stat, it is pretty good. Also Musharna has a great Base 116 HP stat and great physical Defense.

Unfortunately Black 2 and White 2 is quite bad for Psychic-types, especially slow ones. Also Team Plasma spam Dark-types. When you combine that with major boss fights against Elite Four members Shauntal and Grimsley, Musharna will be taking lot of damage in the playthrough.

Ranking criteria:

Final placements are influenced by comment upvotes. Provide both a tier placement and a justification. Unjustified votes will carry less weight when counting votes. An exception is made if an unjustified vote is heavily upvoted and supported by a justified reply/comment from the community for same tier placement.

All Pokémon obtainable in Black 2 and White 2 are ranked based on their contribution to the journey in Challenge Mode until defeating Champion Iris . Leave a comment as well if you think one of the current Pokémons should be in different tier, and why. After final round, we will do one revisit round and see if any rankings should change.

Once we wrap up the final rankings, we are going to have a discussion to build the "Best Team of Six" for a full playthrough.

Investment means experience mostly, and TMs & Items that costs Battle Points. Obviously all Pokémon can be great after massive amount of investment, but we are thinking about their purpose in-game here, not competitive.

Black 2 and White 2 TM List: https://www.serebii.net/black2white2/tmhm.shtml (Check availability here)

Wanna test each mon out? Save file checkpoints are here! Match the save file name with Pokémon Black 2/White 2 (USA, Europe) rom. Each checkpoint has each Pokémon available at that point + Hidden Grotto & Dream Radar mons and Genesect are found in Box 7/8.

Trade evolution Pokémon are ranked based under the assumption that the player has access to trading whether through emulators or other supported methods. If you're playing without access to trades, you may wish to consider their pre-evolutions (like Magmar or Electabuzz) instead. These rankings reflect the most common setup among modern players.

If Pokémon is available at the route, even if it had 1% appearance rate to be found (some are affected by current Season), it doesn't matter, or if it is hard to capture. As long the Pokémon is available from the route, it's all good. 

Hidden Grottoes: The tutorial Route 5 Minccino is a guaranteed encounter, so rank it assuming it has Skill Link. For all other Grottoes, the spawn RNG is awfully low (under 1%), so while you can consider their Hidden Abilities, you should heavily penalize them for the grind required to find them.

Tier definitions:

You can also vote for + and - subtiers, and I will take these in calculations. After the final round, I will break the infographic into subtiers as well.

S (Game-breaking or extremely efficient): These Pokémon dominate the game. They have excellent stats, movepools, and sweep through most of the game without effort. They are available for majority of the game and are "plug and play", just add it to the party and you're good to go.

A (Strong): Reliable, easy to use. They lack one major advantage from S tier but still perform consistently great in any playthrough.

B (Solid): Strong, but with a drawback or two. They are not available early, a limited movepool, or require some extra investment to keep up.

C (Decent): Usable from start to finish without a complex strategy, but they are strictly inferior to higher-tier options due to combination of average stats, late availability, a shallow movepool, or rely heavily on slow setup moves (single +1 offensive boosts) to perform, as stronger and faster options exist.

D (Niche): Pokémon that struggle significantly in general battles and are often a liability in standard matchups. However, they possess a unique utility or specific strategy (ex. stalling) that allows them to bypass their drawbacks.

E (Bad): These Pokémon have combination of weak stats, bad typing, very late availability, or extremely limited movepools that make them difficult to use effectively.

F (Awful): Useless for in-game runs. Huge investment for almost no return.

Usually just use whoever I think is cool but can’t seem to fill my last slot.

Hope I’ll never have to go through this pain again

Used a cheat code to spawn and catch all the Pokémon I needed for my National Dex Completion and got a legitimate shiny 😭 But it feels worthless ‘cause the chatot itself isn’t even legit so ill prob just release it 💔

Finally achieved a childhood dream, but the fun begins now!

I would really like to see what everyone has in mind

Help! How can I make this run actually feesable and fun? I don't have the patience to do the full 1/8192 random odds. I've only shiny hunted in Platinum w/ the pokerader.

I'm hunting 4/6 pokemon, as Zoroark and Reuniclus will be reincarnations of the shinies I caught as a kid. But I want to do the rest "legit", ie, actually hunting for them. I was thinking of cheating in the shiny charm, so the odds become ~1/2731. Still steep, but feels fair and obtainable.

I just want this to be fun without burning out too quick. Cheating in all the shinies wouldn't feel special to me. Any tips or guidance would be appreciated, thanks guys!

Edit - I should mention I will be doing this in Pokemon Black 2

Played through this game probably 10+ times and never stumbled into this girl under the village bridge. Does she do anything but shoo you away?

Just finished PWT on white 2. After you win, everyone sticks around to congratulate you except Red who just up and left. What, did you forget to turn off the hail before you left Mt. Silver?

Welcome to TM-a-Day, a daily series where we analyze & discuss the various TMs in the game. Today's TM is TM67, Retaliate. As always in-game is my preferred avenue of discussion so that's what I'll be focusing on but feel free to discuss these moves and TMs in the context of competitive, PWT, Dex/Trainer Card completion, challenge runs, etc as well!

Retaliate is a normal-type physical attack with 70 base power, 100% accuracy and 5 PP. This move's power is doubled if an ally fainted in the previous turn. In B2W2, the TM is found on Plasma Frigate, at 1F, at the stern of the ship. In BW, you get this TM after defeating Lenora,

The Pokemon that can learn Retaliate by leveling up are:

Growlithe (Level 32), Oshawott (Level 37), Dewott (Level 44), Samurott (Level 50), Lillipup (Level 29), Herdier (Level 33), Stoutland (Level 36), Sawk (Level 37), Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion and Keldeo (All Level 31)

Note: In Black and White, Growlithe learned Retaliate at Level 48

In postgame: Cubone (Level 47) and Marowak (Level 59)

The Pokemon that learn Retaliate via TM are: Patrat line, Leavanny, Riolu line, Dunsparce, Audino, Rattata line, Timburr line, Skitty line, Buneary line, Clefairy & Clefable, Eevee and its evolutions, Sandile line, Minccino line, Rufflet line, Vullaby line, Scraggy line, Heracross, Zorua line, Deerling line, Castform, Zangoose, Seviper, Durant, Drapion, Absol, Mienfoo line, Pawniard line, Sneasel line, Throh, Bouffalant, Druddigon, Slakoth line, Crawdaunt, Jigglypuff & Wigglytuff, Lickitung line, Croagunk line, Larvitar line and Meloetta.

A TM you get after the 2nd Gym in BW turns into a late game TM in B2W2. Difficult to use as it needs an ally fainted in the previous turn to get the power boost, Normal-type pokemon would like this TM. Oh and also this move was possibly intended to be a Dark-type move. A remnant of this is present in the Japanese versions of Black and White, with TM67 being erroneously shown as a Dark-type TM.

The Japanese name of this move, Katakiuchi, refers to a practice common of samurai families during the Edo period, where a samurai was allowed by law to avenge the murder of a direct family member (such as a parent or older sibling), as a form of justice. This may explain its move animation from Generation 6 onwards.

Sample sets:

Braviary @ Silk Scarf • Retaliate, Fly, Rock Slide, Hone Claws

Stoutland (With Scrappy) @ Silk Scarf • Return, Retaliate, Crunch, Ice Fang/Work Up

Clefable @ Leftovers • Retaliate, Meteor Mash, Flamethrower, Moonlight

Been trying to find Lapras at Village Bridge, it's got a small chance of showing up in the bloopy things in the water. I've been at this for so long lol

EDIT: I got it! It knowing Perish Song freaked me out, but I caught it in a Net Ball