I recently purchased two highly anticipated pre-workouts: NEVERENDER, the collaboration between Nemesis Nutrition and Alex Hammerstone, and NEVER DIE, the collaboration between Not Natty and GymDadReviews. Both collaborations involve prominent figures in the pre-workout space and I watch both their channels, so I had high expectations.
This isn't meant to bash either company or claim one formula is better than the other. I haven't tried NEVER DIE yet, but the difference in purchasing experiences was night and day.
First, Nemesis Nutrition.
Wow.
The beautifully designed, custom-branded box arrived protected inside a polymailer decorated with stickers. Inside were socks, samples, gummies, stickers, wristbands, and other extras. None of it was necessary, but that's what made it special. They could've simply shipped the tub in a cardboard box, but the attention to detail made the entire experience feel premium.
NEVER DIE from the Not Natty shop, the experience was a bit different, to say the least.
A single sample. I'm not saying companies owe customers freebies, but for a GymDad collaboration, you'd think a couple of samples would be the bare minimum, considering he's known for doing that with all of his products, and very very generously.
To Not Natty's credit, the shipping box has his branding, which looks nice. However, exposed branding can attract unwanted attention from couriers and other eyes alike. I'd prefer a polymailer covering it, like Nemesis, so you still get the branded unboxing without advertising what's on your doorstep. I paid $79 for NEVER DIE, intentionally skipping GymDad's discount code to further support the collaboration.
Unfortunately, when I unscrewed the lid, the inner protective seal was already broken, with a bit of loose powder around it. I wondered if this was normal until I watched GarageHomie's review, where his tub arrived completely sealed. I've experienced broken seals with older, past-expiration products from NutriCartel, so I can somewhat understand that happening with aging inventory. But NEVER DIE literally released TODAY. Expecting an intact seal on a brand-new product doesn't seem unreasonable. Its not the end of the world, I get it.
Once again, I'm not expecting elaborate packaging or freebies with every order, but its nice to see.
NEVERENDER REVIEW:
Holy shit. Alex Hammerstone wasn't kidding.
Taste: 5/10. Drinkable, but nothing impressive.
Workout experience: 9.5/10. Phenomenal energy, intensity, and overall training experience. Easily one of my better pre-workout sessions. My only criticism is the lack of a stronger pump component, but Alex mentioned supplementing it separately. I took some Cialis alongside it, so that should be considered when interpreting my experience.
As for NEVER DIE, I haven't tried it yet. I'm looking forward to seeing how the formula performs and genuinely hope it lives up to the hype.
Ultimately, this post was not about which formula is better. It's more so about my own customer experience with the presentation, attention to detail, and value I saw. Nemesis made me feel like they appreciated my business, and the product delivered. For perspective, I only got into pre-workouts earlier this year, and in roughly nine months, I've accumulated over 30 tubs. I'd say I'm exactly the kind of repeat customer a company would want to retain. And Nemesis definitely got me hooked, They've already given me a reason to look forward to my next purchase.
As far as the purchasing experience goes, Nemesis wins. And by a mile.
Curious if anyone else has ordered from both companies and what your experiences were like.
New hlsupps order just landed.
Which one should I review first?
Hi all, will upload these 3 onto ebay to be snagged.
Bundle :
Hybrid kilo labs (about 7 servings used)
Rattle (0 servings used but open)
Carnage nutrifitt (about 5 servings left)
Will weigh them all out to see exact amounts for you, just find them too high caffiene with the other stims which makes me feel sick.
UK only
All 3 for £20 total
Ho acquistato la scorsa settimana il pre workout 'wrecked enraged', la versione europea e sinceramente pensavo fosse più forte... l'ho usato ieri per la prima volta e ne ho usato 2 scoop, dopo circa 20 minuti ha iniziato a fare effetto, la concentrazione è salita, anche la temperatura corporea e il focus in allenamento, però mi aspettavo molto di più. Era la prima volta che utilizzavo un pre workout e forse sono abituato a bere molti caffè e gli stimolanti non mi fanno così effetto. Non saprei cosa aspettarmi veramente da un pre workout. Se ho aspettative troppo alte (che ti estranei proprio dal mondo esterno e ti dia una forte botte di energia) oppure faccia il suo dovere aumentando il focus in allenamento è quello sia sufficiente. Sò che le versioni americane sono più forti. Avete esperienze con i ore workout e su cosa aspettarsi veramente?
Dovrei forse acquistare alpha yo o altre sostanze tipo reya e aggiungerle al mio pre? Accetto consigli
Some of these are repeat purchase of staple Supps. Some are re-ups of go to faves. And a few brand new.
What do people want to see reviews on??
•carnage bloodlust caps- one of my favorite pump caps because they’re so different than anything else so they tend to stack on anything without overlaps.
•FSU serum- I know glycerol is glycerol… but Nitrum and Serum are my favorites to stack.
•brainstim (this and Arsyinist were gifted from a generous user here) interesting nootropic. Many product use basically this copycat formula of caffiene, dmba, tianeptine, alpha yo and some other stuff. Had no interest for the longest time but have come around.
•arsynist a DMHA based burner that looks interesting.
•therma virus- local supp shop had this. Label is insane. Don’t know if it’s bs. But I have popped one of these already and there is SOMETHING more than caffeine in here.
•Exoshred- honestly the label on these wasn’t super appealing to me but everything Centurion has always exceeded my expectations so I expect these to be strong
•nemesis caps- love these for stacking. Not an awesome pump capsule but the pure alpha gpc and dmae add a nice mood boost to a pre
•brainstorm- 70$ for 10 caps?!! That’s crazy right…. Well I liked em enough to buy a second bottle lol.
•recomp rx- ive been running this for about 8 weeks during my bulk and going to continue through one more bottle. Will be reviewing and discussing soon
•black tulip- my favorite fat burner pre. Nothing can match this formula for effective fat burning ingredients. Half scoop before cardio almost daily.
•deep sleep- have reviewed these. Convenient capsule based sleep aid. Relies on skullcap as the main sedative ingredient which is unique
•joint- looks like a very high quality joint and inflammation support which I definitely could need. Not exciting but looking forward to using.
•lean- an ALMOST stim fat burner/appetite suppressant. Will be comparing this to their older BURN formula
•brain- second bottle of this. Super cool non stim nootropic. Makes for a good stacker in the right situation.
•formula XII- my favorite base to build my Intra stack off of
•revolt- I’ve said it before… I’m no longer interested in searching down the underground sticky labels… but this one found me. Cross the limits suprised me with it… so I may have to get to it.
•cognition- mostly stim free nitrous (has paraxanthine) thag should make for good stacking or a good productivity type nootropic
•adaptogen- third time buying this one. Just love mixing this with some coffee when I need a pick me up without going stim heavy
•fuerte- nutricartel sent me the first bottle for free. I bought the second one with my own dollar because this product actually works.
•dopamine+- second bottle. Have reviewed. A favorite to stack.
•apollon the specialist- a monthly staple. The best health support formula on the market, especially if you use PEDs
•Mk ultra- glycerol with some nootropics
•first degree- looks solid. Has juglans on label… how will it hit?
•rattle- this pre got a lot of buzz for a minute that one of died down… but looks right down my alley.
•KROBAA- the only Nutrafitt pre I haven’t tried. Honestly looks like it will need to be used at like1.5 the serving size to hit. But we’ll see.
•GODKILLER- I already know this is gonna be a ride
•hot rice- apollon make some good cream of rice lol.
•huge wrecked- one of the best daily drivers on the market. This made my top 10 Pres last year because it’s top shelf for a high quality daily. Huge just sent me the newest flavor drop. Looking forward to trying as it’s been a while
I'm newer to high stim pre-workouts so I ordered a few different samples to try. Just looking for suggestions on what to try first or try next. Here's the list of samples I ordered.
Demigod Eternal Formulation
Level 1 INFECT Psychedelic Pharma
Brain Stim Global Supremacy
KRATOS Beast Coast
VYB3D Dark Labs
Crack Gold OG 7/26 EXP
Crack Daily Dark Labs
David vs Goliath
Hello!
I’m looking to get back into pre workouts.
Is there anyone inside of EU that have anything laying around that they’re willing to sell?
Big thanks!
SHADOW REALM PRE-WORKOUT
Another High Stim Sunday in the books!
This one was a BLIND BUY after seeing a post from @gymdadfitness24 on Reddit. Found it on sale for only $27, so I figured, WHY NOT?
After a nice, long rest day, it was time to put this pre-workout to the test on LEG DAY!
FLAVOR: 8/10
Strawberry Lemonade tasted pretty good. No complaints!
ENERGY:
Took about 40 minutes to kick in for me. My friend felt it in about 25 minutes.
WORKOUT:
We both had solid workouts, great energy, and some really good pumps!
THE DOWNSIDE:
My only complaint is the longevity. The energy lasted about 3 hours before I started feeling the crash. I definitely expected more from a high-stim pre-workout.
OVERALL: 7/10
For $27, it’s a pretty solid pre-workout! Good energy, good pumps, and a solid workout. I just wish it lasted longer. That’s what kept it from getting a higher rating.
WOULD I RECOMMEND IT?
For the price, absolutely! Just don’t expect long-lasting energy.
WHO ELSE HAS TRIED SHADOW REALM? DID IT LAST LONGER FOR YOU?
#PreWorkoutReview #HighStimPreWorkout #GymSupplements #PreWorkoutJunkie #CaffeinatedSavage
No one buy from this horrible website they will scam you completely. After the bank transfer goes through they won’t respond to any emails or support. They’ll straight up scam you.
Sapete consigliarmi qualche pre workout forte da acquistare in Europa, sò che le versioni americane sono molto più Spinte, ma con il costo tra spedizione e sdoganamento non ne vale la pena secondo me. Per questo avrei bisogno si qualche consiglio sui migliori presenti in Europa, ho sentito parlare bene di wrecked enraged, edge of insanity... voi avete altri nomi? E se avete esperienze sulla vostra pelle sarei curioso di saperlo
I have 2 preworkout and one non stim but I want another preworkout. Any suggestions? Below is the ones I have so far as the ones I picked to get .I’m just trying to switch here and there with the preworkouts and daily ones I use
Pandemic Scorpion Pre Workout
Sicario® Non Stim Pre Workout
El Jefe® Leyenda Pre Workout
Anyone know an EU/UK shop that sells the US version of Huge Supplements Wrecked and ships to the EU? I'm specifically looking for the US formula, not the EU version.
Over the last 4 months I've been using high stim pre workouts quite extensively and my tolerance to them is quite high. I used from Dark Labs products, koka Labs products, etc and up to 600mg of caffeine products on some days and my tolerance got really high.
I have decided to take a break from stim pre workouts and using a Paraxanthine pre workout instead like BH2K.
Have any of you used any similar products to take a stim break from pre workouts? I am just dreading not having any coffee for the next 2 weeks and the headaches are quite bad even if I taper down the caffeine.
I will be starting from Friday to use BH2K for the next 2 weeks and see if it helps to reset my tolerance.
Got these bad boys on the way - any reviews and tips would be appreciated
Big fan of Sicario but also considering Apollon Bare Knuckle or Apollon Bloodsport. Open to something else if anyone has any recommendations. Looking for big pumps and stim free. Let me know what other reccs I’m missing!