r/SeventhDayAdventism

I have so much respect for the Seventh-day Adventist you guys are the closest to the truth I’ve ever seen in my life and I’m friends with someone who really saved me. I was in a relationship that ended because I think God wanted me to do better. The one I was with never believed in God and I learned believe in God can lead you to heaven, and I knew if I was with this guy, I would never go to heaven, and I think God just saved me you guys are really good people

Beloved,

Satan is ever ready to steal a march on us in our groggy state. Due to recent posts conflating legalism and the mystery of the Gospel, I wanted to give a breakdown with Scripture for those who are of the right Spirit to receive it. Bless you all!

Legalism says, “I obey so that God will accept me.”

Galatians 2:16 KJV: “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ... for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

Romans 3:20 KJV: “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

Ephesians 2:8 to 9 KJV: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

Titus 3:5 KJV: “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us.”

The gospel says, “God accepts me in Christ, and Christ in me produces obedience.”

Ephesians 1:6 KJV: “To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.”

Galatians 2:20 KJV: “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me.”

John 15:5 KJV: “He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.”

Philippians 2:13 KJV: “For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.”

Legalism says, “My law keeping makes me righteous.”

Philippians 3:9 KJV: “And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ.”

Romans 10:3 to 4 KJV: “For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”

Galatians 3:21 KJV: “for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.”

The gospel says, “Christ is my righteousness, and His righteousness is revealed in a transformed life.”

1 Corinthians 1:30 KJV: “But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption.”

Jeremiah 23:6 KJV: “And this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.”

Romans 8:4 KJV: “That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

1 John 3:7 KJV: “Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.”

Legalism says, “I can overcome sin by effort, discipline, and rule keeping.”

John 15:5 KJV: “for without me ye can do nothing.”

Romans 7:18 KJV: “For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwelleth no good thing.”

Romans 7:24 KJV: “O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?”

Colossians 2:20 to 23 KJV warns against man made ordinances and self imposed religion, saying they have “a shew of wisdom” but are “not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.”

The gospel says, “Without Christ I can do nothing, but through abiding in Him, His Spirit fulfills righteousness in me.”

John 15:4 to 5 KJV: “Abide in me, and I in you... He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.”

Romans 8:2 to 4 KJV: “For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death... That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

Galatians 5:16 KJV: “Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.”

2 Corinthians 3:18 KJV: “But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image... even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”

Hebrews 8:10 KJV: “I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts.”

Summary

Both the Gospel and legalism concern obedience to God’s law, and this is why many conflate the two. But legalism says, “I will become righteous by my own effort and law keeping.” The Gospel says, “By full surrender, I receive Christ by faith; He saves me, abides in me, and the evidence of that salvation is the law being fulfilled in me, yet not I, but Christ."

"Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.  He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother." - 1Jn 3:6-10

Revelation 20:12 KJV: “And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.”

Revelation 22:12 KJV: “And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.”

There is no tension when you understand rightly the flow and you stop doubting the power of God to fulfill His will in us. This is EXACTLY why Paul says:

For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." - Romans 3:3-4

Israel had the oracle, but they exercised unbelief two ways, they did not truly keep the law, and they tried to establish righteousness by their own works instead of receiving it by faith. Thats modern day Adventism for a lot of us. We have the oracles, but we lack the unbelief allow us the liberty of the law. Shall our unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar."

“Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”- Matthew 13:9

Four biblical markers to test which church aligns with the life, teachings, mission, and prophetic blueprint of Jesus Christ in the last days.

Hello. So yeah I'm homeless atm. I left the province to find a job here in Manila and live on my own. Family situation was becoming so toxic. I'm the only SDA there.

I was offered a job yesterday in Makati. Only problem is I'm out of resources to make it through payday. Is it ok to ask the church for help?

Can someone quote me a verse clearly and directly commanding gentiles to observe the sabbath please. Not an indirect command like 1 John 2:3 but a direct explicit ‘I command gentiles to observe the sabbath’ verse. Considering the importance of the Sabbath there must be a verse or chapter dedicated to this.

I believe the Seventh-day Adventist Church is a true church because it is grounded in the Bible as the final authority. My faith is not built on human tradition but on scripture, and I see the church as calling people back to what God originally revealed in His word.

I keep the seventh day Sabbath because I believe it was established by God at creation and written in the Ten Commandments. I see Jesus also keeping the Sabbath, and I understand it as a lasting command for all believers, not something changed by human authority.

I also believe strongly in the soon return of Jesus Christ. The message of Christ coming again is central to my faith, and I see the church’s mission as preparing people spiritually for that event through repentance, obedience, and hope in God’s promises.

Health and lifestyle are also important to me as part of worship. I believe the body is the temple of God, so I try to live in a way that reflects that belief through healthy habits, discipline, and avoiding things that harm physical and spiritual well being.

I respect the role of Ellen G. White because I believe her writings help guide believers back to scripture and strengthen faith in God’s word. However, I do not place her writings above the Bible, since the Bible remains the highest standard.

From my understanding, a true church is not defined by popularity or size but by faithfulness to God’s word. That is why I believe the Seventh-day Adventist Church stands as a true church, because it seeks to follow scripture, uphold the commandments of God, and point people to Jesus Christ.

You will be told ‘we don’t obey the law to be saved, but because we are saved we obey the law.’ This is a falsehood because SDA doctrine also tells you that sabbath observance is the outward seal of God which protects you from the eventual wrath of God. This is also a lie because it is the Holy Spirit that seals us (See Eph 1:13). Thus sabbath observance is 100% a salvation issue for Sda’s.

To truly trust in Jesus you would rely on his finished works on the cross. You yourself have no work to do. You cannot earn your salvation. But Sda’s don’t trust in Jesus’ finished work. They rely on their own work for ultimate salvation.

You will be quoted 1 John 2:3-4 about he who claims to know Jesus but doesn’t obey his commandants is a liar but they will NEVER quote you 1 John 3:23 which defines exactly what those commandments are: FAITH IN JESUS and LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR.

Thus SDA doctrine does not have faith in Jesus because it relies on sabbath observance for salvation.

In light of the recent news and developments, where do you stand, as SDA on this??

John 13:34
King James Version
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

John 14:15
King James Version
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments

John 15:10-12
King James Version
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

John 15:17
King James Version
17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.

1 John 2:3-4
King James Version
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him

1 John 3:23
King James Version
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

Note: the new commandment is not for us to observe the old ones. It wouldn’t be new otherwise.

I keep seeing people post in our forums here that the Law was done away with, that the Commandments of God are no longer in effect. What these people almost always mean is that the Sabbath, the fourth Commandment is no longer in effect. They will readily admit that we should keep the rest.

So I want to take a minute of time to look at the Commandment. What I am going to say will shock a lot of people, but keep reading. The fourth Commandment did not create/establish the Sabbath! That is right, the fourth Commandment did not establish the Sabbath!

Let us take a look at the Commandment using the KJV bible.

"Exo 20:8  Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 

Exo 20:9  Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 

Exo 20:10  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 

Exo 20:11  For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. "

The first thing you will notice is it starts with the words remember the Sabbath. In other words when the fourth Commandment was written, the Sabbath already existed, it was not established at that point.

The next few statements are simply reminders and instructions on how to keep the Sabbath.

We then get to the end of the fourth Commandment, it tells us when it was created, it was created on the seventh day of creation. That is right, the Sabbath had existed for thousands of years when Moses was given the Ten Commandments.

The Commandment was simply a reminder to keep it.

The Sabbath was actually created on the Seventh Day of creation, here is the text

"Gen 2:1  Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 

Gen 2:2  And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 

Gen 2:3  And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. "

So the next time someone tells you the Ten Commandments were done away with(although we know that is not true) and you only have to keep the new Commandments, and the Sabbath was not included in the new ones, you can remind them, that the Ten Commandments did not establish the Sabbath, the Sabbath Day existed for thousands of years before then, and the Ten Commandments were simply reminding us to keep the Sabbath Day. It exist entirely outside the Ten Commandments.

To observe a "national Sabbath" from sundown May 15 to nightfall May 16, 2026.

Sabbath law - the only way to convince Jews and Sabbath keepers to deceive and win under the Antichrist's power. Read Jewish prophecies - the Antichrist will establish only Sabbath Law! No other day (you are wrong about Sunday).

KJV: (Antichrist) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of God, shewing himself that he is God! ( "Only Sabbath keepers will be allowed to do so in the Israel Temple." )

KJV: And for this cause God shall send them strong (Sunday Law) delusion, that they should believe a (Sunday Law) lie: And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the Love of the Truth, that they might be Saved. That they all might be damned who believed not the Truth!

* For Israel only Sabbath law acceptable, specially for a Temple in Jerusalem. Plus:

KJV: Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. ( Death penalty!)

KJV: Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. ( Death penalty!) Read about death from Antichrist Rev 13:, Rev 14:, Rev 20: (Jesus will kill Antichrist and erase Antichrist sabbath death law: 2 Thessalonians 2:)

KJV: Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day. Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. ( Death penalty!)

KJV: If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: .. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Hi there! I am here for genuine advice as I am not too familiar with Seventh-day Adventist ism.

I grew up as a Pentecostal, and now I go to your run-of-the-mill non-denominational churches. I am enrolling my daughter into kindergarten and they are labeled as a Christian school. When I enrolled they advise they are actually Seventh-day Adventist. Now I am actually not too familiar with seventh day Adventist and I would really like to get some insight on some of the differences. I do not see myself or my daughter becoming Seventh-day Adventist and being a part of their congregation however, the class in the kindergarten is actually very well-maintained compared to some of the other local schools.

I honestly have no idea what I’m trying to ask. I just wanna know from followers here, will I run into anything drastically different from what I’m used to? Will she still fit in, is this even morally right to enroll her here?

I am taking care of a man who had a stroke. all I have to do is keep him company. no lifting twisting or hard work.

the sunset in my area is 8:40 pm now. Is it a sin if I work after the sunset?

I’m new to the faith so go easy on me please