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Paramount has a perfect path for revitalizing DC films with Zack Snyder, Chris McQuarrie, Henry Cavill, and Ben Affleck
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Paramount has a perfect path for revitalizing DC films with Zack Snyder, Chris McQuarrie, Henry Cavill, and Ben Affleck

Following the historic failure of Supergirl, and with the acquisition of Warner Brothers nearing completion, Paramount now has an incredible opportunity laid before them to revitalize DC films, using proposals and pitches that have been floating out there for years and have already been embraced by fans, rather than continuing with James Gunn's collapsing DC universe.

The first pitch they may be likely to look at would be Chris McQuarrie's proposal for a Man of Steel sequel with Henry Cavill. Skydance, who bought Paramount, produced all of the recent Mission: Impossible movies for Paramount, even before they took over the company. That means that the new Paramount owners already have a close relationship with M:I director Chris McQuarrie. McQuarrie last talked about this Superman proposal while promoting the latest Mission: Impossible film. He had not given up on it, and described it as sitting in a desk drawer just waiting for someone to make it. He mentioned it had a spectacular opening sequence that crystallized the essence of the Superman character. His pitch was conceived while working with Henry Cavill on M:I - Fallout, so it seems likely he would still want Cavill to play Superman in this movie.

Once Cavill returns as Superman, that triggers a domino effect that could result in the return of the rest of the Snyderverse cast, which could then revive some of the other unmade pitches for Snyderverse movies. Paramount is likely to be a friendlier studio for Snyder and his DC films than Netflix would've been. Netflix Films has been run by Dan Lin for the last two years. Lin almost took the job of running DC Studios before James Gunn did. He likely had his own ideas for DC that he would've gone ahead with, rather than looking to bring back any actors and directors from past films. Also, the new Paramount appears to be carving out a spot as a politically incorrect studio, one that is willing to bring back creators from the "cancelled" list. If they will bring back people like Max Landis, who was on the blacklist over "MeToo" issues for 5 years, then they're not going to care about some of the random, politically charged criticism that Snyder has faced from "woke" outlets like Rolling Stone.

Another political angle is that Paramount has been very friendly to Israel. They would likely be happy to bring back Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman, rather than recast the role. Even WB seems to have been dragging their feet on recasting her, because they know how well her first Wonder Woman film was received, one of the biggest DC film success stories of all time in combined critical reception and box office. Snyder also showed support for Israel by signing a petition early after the October 2023 attacks, which demanded the release of hostages by Hamas. On politically sensitive matters, Paramount, Snyder, and others in the Snyderverse orbit seem to be closely aligned.

Now, let's consider some of the potential DCEU projects that Paramount could fill their slate with, after breaking down the door to restoring the Snyderverse with a Cavill-led Man of Steel 2:

#Justice League 2 and 3 These are the white whale/holy grail of cancelled DCEU projects. There may be some tweaking necessary to make them fit into a full DC slate from Paramount, but the basic story of Darkseid's post-apocalyptic invasion of Earth, and the Justice League's quest to undo that, could certainly continue. These films have the potential to look spectacular, and be big tentpole releases. Darkseid alone as a villain is a big new hook that wasn't present in the theatrical Justice League. And you also have Batman and Joker together again, sharing scenes in a film, something that hasn't happened in a long time, and is always good for box office.

#Ben Affleck's solo Batman film Affleck could direct it or not, his choice. Paramount just better not be stupid enough to hire a director like Matt Reeves and then give him the right to fire Ben and completely blow up the consistency of the DC universe. Ben could bring in Gavin O'Connor to direct, who did both of his Accountant films. Affleck's Batman script sounded like more of a comic book-style Batman, still serious and dark, but with fantastical villains, which would help give it a fresher feel coming after Reeves' grounded, Nolan-esque approach. Deathstroke was the main antagonist, which, again, is a fresh villain to DC films, and a fan-favorite.

#Green Lantern Corps The hints/rumors around McQuarrie's Superman pitch was that Green Lantern would be involved. Basic guesswork suggests that McQuarrie's close pal Tom Cruise might play that role. The test pilot Hal Jordan is tailor-made for the star of Top Gun. And Tom Cruise in his first superhero film would generate huge buzz. Pair this with him mentoring a young John Stewart, and you have a diverse and charismatic cast with the potential for Top Gun-esque dogfight scenes. This would be a convincing big screen reboot for Green Lantern that would make the failed Ryan Reynolds film a distant memory.

#Wonder Woman 3 The return of Gal Gadot to the role. The next big Wonder Woman villain to go to would seem to be Circe. There would be good potential to cast a big-name actress in that role, like Ana de Armas or Angelina Jolie. Maybe bring back Patty Jenkins, with Snyder's team involved in producing and handling the stunts again, or find a new director. Because they will probably want a female director, and very few of them have experience directing action movies, this is really where the MCU production style would be best employed. The director handles the dialogue scenes, while a well-oiled machine creates the action and stunt sequences.

#Mad Love with Joker and Harley Quinn This would be different enough from the Joaquin Phoenix/Lady Gaga take on Joker and Harley that the existence of that one shouldn't matter. This would be a more comic and cartoon-accurate take. Joker and Harley together is by far the element that people most responded to in ALL THREE of the Harley-starring DCEU movies (Birds of Prey and the second Suicide Squad film were non-events in the culture partly because they lacked the Joker/Harley dynamic completely). Remove all the political correctness that led to the perversions and abuse in their relationship being left on the cutting room floor of the first Suicide Squad, and you have the edgy, gothic love story fans want and expect from this dastardly duo.

#David Ayer's Suicide Squad As part of the run-up to Mad Love, Ayer can finally release his uncut Suicide Squad. This will show us all the cut Joker and Harley footage, and help promote Mad Love's release.

#Shazam vs. Black Adam The movie that for some reason WB couldn't figure out how to make, but which is by far the most commercial way to do a movie from the world of Shazam. You could definitely involve Cavill's Superman in this in some capacity as well.

#Cyborg solo movie The character was well-received in Snyder's Justice League, and Hollywood is always looking to make more movies with black leads or others that expand on diversity. This is a character with name recognition based on the Teen Titans cartoon, so he has a chance to succeed in a solo venture. This could also be used to start introducing the Teen Titans, like BvS was used to introduce the Justice League.

And, while production on this slate is getting ramped up, we can get a nationwide theatrical release of Zack Snyder's Justice League. This can come out to help build buzz after the plan to restore the Snyderverse is announced.

Overall, Paramount has a big opportunity to successfully relaunch DC films with a group of big-name actors and directors that have huge followings with both DC and regular film fans. This slate focuses on the most well-known characters, which is necessary to draw audience attention to a new plan. But it offers many pathways to further expand on the DC universe and gradually go deeper into lesser known characters, once it proves successful. It also presents a fully unified universe, that isn't randomly missing Batman, Superman, or other A-list hero from it because of poor planning by the studio. This plan is a pathway to making DC films relevant, popular, and a growing force at the box office again.

u/Fickle-Rip3093 — 9 hours ago

'failed Snyder era'. Snyder was involved in 3 movies in DCEU, that earned 2.4B at the box office (3x returns). Gunn shills continue to blame Snyder for DCU failure is most insane coping I have seen.

u/Rule_Ct_5293 — 11 hours ago

‘Supergirl’ Suffers Historic Brutal 74% Drop. Supergirl Suffers the Second Worst Second Weekend Box Office Drop in DC History, Behind Only Joker 2. 💀

Only Joker 2 Had a Worse Second-Weekend Box Office Drop Than Supergirl in DC History.

The DCEU's worst ones were The Flash with 72.5%, after Gunn announced the new DCU and a lot of people simply didn't care about the old universe anymore and The Suicide Squad with 71.5% 💀🍿

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u/VirtualSort1 — 12 hours ago

How the GunnCult genuinely expected people to react when a movie featuring Corenswet's Superman in a supporting role hit theaters. 💀

u/VirtualSort1 — 16 hours ago

Would you have preferred it if Zack stuck to this Colour Grading for ZSJL?

In the early marketing for JL, when Zack Snyder was still involved, it was apparent that he was going for a more brighter colour palette. I am pretty sure it was mandated by WB but under Snyder it looked good unlike the saturated mess that the film turned into under Whedon. This colour grading seemed to be present in the first "Hallelujah" trailer for ZSJL as well. I think Batman's suit looked more "blue" when the film had this look and I loved that. But the final film abandoned it and went for an even darker aesthetic.

One thing I don't like about ZSJL is that it seems very "grey" at times. It should have been a bit brighter since the film's tone is actually pretty hopeful and it's about multiple heroes in different costumes coming together. I think BvS had the perfect look and is one of the best looking CBM films. Well all of the Snyder films look excellent but the departure of Larry Fong was felt in JL.

So do y'all prefer the look that Snyder went with or the more "blue" look that he was going for earlier.

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u/geekerMan — 15 hours ago
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The DCU is Dead! 😎

And it’s time to say goodbye…In my opinion… The Suicide Squad bombed at the box office. Peacemaker and Creature Commandos failed to attract viewers. Superman underperformed theatrically, Supergirl is projected to lose over $100 million, and DC fans have now completely turned on the DCU. How many more stink bombs are they going to release before they completely destroy the brand? DC has now become an international laughingstock. I think it’s time for a change. I think it’s time for filmmakers who actually care about and respect DC’s characters and stories, like Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan, to come back. Jimmy Olsen and Gorilla Grodd are not going to save DC. It’s time to #RestoretheSnyderVerse 😎

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u/EasternContext3396 — 1 day ago

Supergirl Civil WAR - James Gunn vs Hollywood, Why James Gunn's DCU Is DEAD #superman #supergirl

He’s right. Gunn’s Diaperman is inconsistent.
He saves squirrels but knocks a humans face so hard a tooth comes out. Lasers humans who fall from high in the air. He murders his clone but cries for a Kaiju.

This is why Diaperman is actually a cynical film at heart. It pretends to be hopeful and bright but deep down you can see gunn hates the goodie goodie hero, makes fun of him non stop, and makes him the weakest superman ever written. (Unless you truly believe he went undefeated for three years which would make him the most powerful superman ever written.)

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u/Horror_Campaign9418 — 17 hours ago
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How James Gunn Is Destroying The DCU, One C-List Superhero At A Time

DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn's priority for the DCU is focusing on B- and C-list characters, and the filmmaker's approach to building a shared world runs the risk of derailing and destroying the DCU.

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u/HomemadeBee1612 — 1 day ago
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Anthony Mackie blasting an interviewer for liking Man of Steel

Dude is worried about Rotten Tomatoes scores. Captain America: Brave New World sits at 46% on Rotten Tomatoes lower than Man of Steel and it got a B- CinemaScore.

Man of Steel got an A. 💀

u/VirtualSort1 — 3 days ago
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Wonder Woman made over $800M a year after BvS "destroyed" the brand. Meanwhile, Supergirl becomes one of the biggest superhero movie flops ever a year after Superman 2025 "saved" the brand.

u/HomemadeBee1612 — 2 days ago
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Tornado Scene

I really don't understand why people shit on this scene, I get emotional watching it, being 42 years old son of a father who has spent his life providing and protecting his family, this scene hits me, Jonathan is so protective of his son, neither Clark nor Jonathan knew the full capabilities of Clark, in every interpretation movies/comics/series young Clark had barely knew what his potential is, on top of that, Jonathan is also unaware the level of his son's invincibility, it's not like he was running tests on him what could harm him or not, shooting bullets at him back at the farm, lightning him on fire, throwing him off the roof, all he knows that his son has some special capabilities and he survived a drowning buss crash once and rescued his teammates, when Jonathan first saw the tornado his first instinct was to protect his wife and son and he immediately tells Clark, "go to the overerpass" just like a normal father would do, he didn't know if a tornado would harm Clark or not, even when Clark went to get the dog, Jonathan told him "get your mom to the overpass" in the end Jonathan chose to sacrifice himself to protect his son's secret.

It serves as a pivotal moment for Clark's development, watching his father, this average man running to help and save people even a dog from the tornado while protecting his family, and giving his life trying to save others and to protect his son, so Clark would eventually would not waste his capabilities for personal gain, rather to serve and protect humanity

u/Fickle-Rip3093 — 3 days ago

Zack Snyder is one of the best things to happen to Wonder Woman

Seeing the state of Wonder woman and the way her fans grumble and gnash their teeth at WB and DC's continued mistreatment of the most iconic female superhero, especially on her 85th anniversairy puts the title into perspective.

No new film, no animated series, no live action series, no casting, cancelled game, no discernible 85th celebration. All this admist a slew of announcements for other DC projects like the never ending train of Batman stuff (he's my fave but come on a Joker Anime?!). But no WW news.

Despite being in DC's trinity WB and DC were always weird with WW. I get not wanting to mess her up but you have to at least try.

Meanwhile Zack goes out of his way to put Diana in his first proper DCEU film (MoS was originally just for a superman solo franchise). Gal is universally beloved and her solo film with a story co-written by Zack and help from his action team becomes the single greatest female superhero film (some might say its the only good one to this day).

The WW fans crying don't want to admit it and admist Supergirl's box office performance the narrative of people rejecting female heroes continues to omit WW1 because they don't want to admit Snyder and Gal succeded first go.

The casting of Gal was very important to its success which again was a Zack casting. DCEU WW is both cautious and open at different stages in her life. Gal doesn't have the western female action lead energy where they have to emulate men.

In the Snyder era WW was on top. Since he has been gone Joss tried to humilaite her in his JL, Patty and Geoff Johns made her a campy parody sequel and Gunn lied to and quietly dropped one of the best superhero castings ever. The end of the Snyderverse was sad for many reasons and I'd just like to specifically acknowledge how it hurt WW and the fans who hated Snyder brought it on themselves.

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u/JosephBapeck — 3 days ago