r/SonicScaling

Multiverse level Sonic Debunk

Multiverse level Sonic Debunk

Hear me out yall: I don't really buy any of the Sonic cast having Tier 2-1 AP anymore. The Super hedgehogs had to target Solaris' core which is specifically noted to be a [weak spot and his Achille's Heel](https://imgur.com/3NQRuyw). When Solaris came into existence, he scrambled all the existing timelines into [an space-time intersection](https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=356&v=QPM1m4CXHy0&feature=youtu.be). He floats idly while his eyes rupture space-time over a long period of time, which is stated in in-game dialogue if you hit a question box. Essentially: Solaris sits there doing nothing and summons rifts that over a long period of time corrode the multiverse into essentially a cluster of teeny tiny fragments that he then consumes. Solaris does use the Eyes as an attack but the Eyes are only Tier 2-1 through their passive corrosion of space-time, they don't necessarily have like Tier 2 kinetic energy. Solaris clearly isn't like many universes huge. The only way him eating timelines makes sense is if said timelines are fragmented into tiny chunks, which is exactly what's going on as the rifts he summons are breaking down space-time. Solaris himself isn't really doing anything. One might bring up Time Eater but the issue is: Time Eater isn't destroying the universe. What Time Eater is doing is traveling throuh time and erasing random locations in time. When he does so, it causes disruptions in time that will eventually cause space and time to collapse. Time Eater never destroyed the entire universe at all, all he did was just traveling through time and BFR'ing areas into white space. Him traveling through time disproves the idea that time was destroyed and the statements of Time Eater destroying time only refer to the areas that Time Eater sent to White Space considering that [when Sonic moves too fast, time within those areas is restored](https://imgur.com/a/sonic-generations-japanese-scans-dJoIUmF).

The evidence in the guidebooks doesn't add anything to make the feat universal at all, because destroy in this context can just mean ruin/causing chaos. The End is kind of a fraud. It's claims of "bringing all the teeming chaos of creation to order" is just flowery language. It says it will "consume all" but I find it dubious to say this means it can actually destroy a universe when it was explicitly trapped within Cyber Space, a reality, and unable to escape. Even Ian Flynn, the guy who wrote The End's monologue, considers The End to be overhyping its own capabilities. The End's cosmology threatening statements are just poetic flowery language, the best on screen feat is planet destruction. Ian Flynn has commented on how not everything it says is literal, for example the part where it says it's infinite in comparison to everything else. "Saving everyone everywhere" does not mean The End will suddenly destroy a universe, **if it could do that the universe should've already been destroyed.** Life wiping can occur overtime and we *clearly see* The End wiping planets with life in them.

u/Long_Report_7683 — 9 hours ago

"Hey The End (Sonic) Can You Give Us A Feat Past Complex Multiversal?"

Mfs will dickride that fraud to no end he is complex multiversal at best

u/GoodCaramel6197 — 17 hours ago

Is it crazy to say in comparsion to the main cast Surge is a low-tier (Yes even to Mighty and Honey)

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u/Large_Carob_7599 — 21 hours ago

New to scaling and I’m curious how strong is Knuckles really?

I’m not really a scaler but this community is neat and I have curiosity. How strong is knuckles? Physically where does he land and exactly how high does he scale?

I ask because I have an OC I continuely describe as “matching knuckles in strength with kicks to match his punches” but….. just how strong IS that for reference?

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u/averagejoe2133 — 2 days ago
▲ 9 r/SonicScaling+1 crossposts

How fast would the Egg Mobile have to be here to make the Earth and Moon move like this?

Feat found in this stage. I'd like to use it as support for my own personal scaling

If it helps any, Classic Sonic should be about 75cm, about 2'5 or so (and at most 3'3 as per the height of his Modern counterpart.) The Egg Mobile seems comparable to his size in this specific game, tho a little taller.

it also performs a faster version of this feat, but I think this one is a good middle ground

u/TheStinker45 — 3 days ago