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This is something I actually don’t know about Miguel.

We know where the others grew up.

Miles, Brooklyn. Peter, Queens. Gwen, Chelsea, but what about Miguel?

I found this article about the development of Miguel while scrolling on twitter, and the fact that the version of Miguel that chases a 15 year old child down and calls him a mistake was the TAME version of him they came up with scares me for how much worst it could've been.

Thank You Oscar Issac 🥹

I just replayed Edge of Time after a long time this week and while I enjoyed it for what it is, I had a big problem with one thing, namely Peter Parker as a character.

The game was written by Peter David, the man himself, who created and wrote all 3 volumes of Spider-Man 2099, so obviously Miguel is perfect in this, CDB is still the best actor to portray him and overral this is by far the best adaptation of Spider-Man 2099 and his world.

David also wrote Peter Parker a couple of times back in Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man, wrote the famous Death of Jean Dewolff storyline, and also in the Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man series around the Civil War era. He had some great stories and really liked his Peter who had an edge to him, argued with people or lost his temper sometimes, basically captured the essence of the real Peter Parker pre-OMD.

The funny part is that he writes Peter this way in the game too for 90% of the times, which also thanks to Josh Keaton voicing Peter makes the arguing and conversations of Miguel and Peter the best thing about the game by far.

The problem is that other 10%, where David writes Peter Parker so out of character, that he basically character assissinates him.

The most famous part about Edge of Time's story is a scene that got brought up again a couple of years ago thanks to Across the Spider-Verse, where Peter is stranded in the future, Miguel is stranded in the past, and Peter learns that MJ is going to die that day, so he basically guilt trips Miguel into saving her. People not knowing the real context behind the scene like to just cut that 20 seconds from the scene, where Peter tells Miguel that Spider-Man saves everyone. So what is the problem? The problem is that the context behind the scene, that Miguel told Peter in the beginning of the game, that if they don't change back the timeline to it's original self soon (which was changed by the secondary villain, Walker Slone, who traveled back in time to the past from 2099 to change it, create Alchemax decades before it was founded originally, and make it the only powerhouse company, creating a dark future for 2099), than the new timeline permanently overwrites the old one. That's why the game is called Edge of Time, they supposedly are on the run to fix things before it's too late.

But Peter here after learning that MJ dies, doesn't care about ANYTHING Miguel told him about the situation and guilt trips Miguel into saving MJ even though if they reset the timeline into its original self, than nothing out of the new timeline has actually ever happened. But if they fail to do that, not just the new timeline sticks around, but since the Gateway that functions as a wormhole between Peter's time and Miguel's time (also enabled Walker Slone to time travel and change the past) is very unstable and if it accidently collapses before they shut it off, everything that ever existed ceases to exist by deleting the new and the old timeline. And at this point they don't even know about the main antagonist, evil future Peter Parker, who wants to play "dice with the universe", harness the quantum energy of the Gateway to create a new new timeline and play God, remaking the universe whatever way he wants. This plan is cool on paper, since he wants to change all his past's mistakes, but the quantum energy is so unstable, that Miguel comments he would just end up destroying the universe while trying to play God.

So Peter knowing the stakes and that everyone's life is on the line, sends Miguel on a goosechase to save MJ, risking the mission and not being able to save the universe in time, while making a pep talk about responsiblity. And thanks to that one clip everyone thinks Peter is in the right, making Miguel look bad and that "this Peter would definitely fight against Spider-Verse Miguel, because he is a real Spider-Man". When in reality Miguel was the truly responsible Spider-Man there and Peter wanting to save MJ in that situation wasn't about responsibility at all, but about selfishness. Miguel himself says it during the MJ mission too, "I hope the universe doesn't end, while I'm trying to save one person".

This isn't the only time Peter acts out of character in the story, after coming back from the death, he keeps whining and saying "he just wants to go home" even though the world ending situation is still a threat. He also says at one time he wants to stay in the future, so that his loved ones don't pay the price for him being Spider-Man. Miguel counterpoints that if he doesn't return to the past, then what happens to all the good Spider-Man is suppodes to do in the past's future. Peter responds that "so a billion strangers life is more important than my loved ones?". YES PETER, THAT IS WHAT THE WHOLE GREAT POWER COMES WITH GREAT RESPONSIBILITY THING IS ALL ABOUT. That you have to make sacrifices sometimes for the greater good.

I remember that when people started to bring this scene up after ATSV, I was already like "but wasn't the context of the scene something else". Now that I replayed the game and freshened my memory, yes it's completely wrong and it makes me sick in a way when they make paralels between this and ATSV. In ATSV canon event is a theory, that Miguel and the Spider Society live by based on what Miguel supposedly experienced. In EOT Miguel was the good guy in the situation, yet based on a 20 second out of context scene, character assissinated Mr. pep talk Peter Parker is the responsible one, when in reality he is writen poorly and makes Miguel save MJ for selfish reasons, just so he doesn't experience another loved ones death, ready to gamble and possible sacrefice the universe for exchange.

Edge of Time is written well for most of the time, but these couple of terrible Peter Parker moments might make it the worst thing the legendary Peter David has ever written.

Are there any really cool Spider-Man 2099 posters or prints worth collecting? I’m looking for some cool wall art and would love to hear some suggestions. I’ve looked around online a little bit and found a few things, but I wanted to make sure I’m not overlooking some hidden gem!
Especially interested in anything that has that classic ’90s Spider-Man 2099 aesthetic. 👀